Do you like them? Discuss the event in general.

I am because Maroon 5 is nominated for 2 awards or something and their performing..but when are they?

I can't wait.....Usher & Alicia both have 8 nominations and both are performing. Kanye has 10 and I wanna see Maroon 5 perform and I think U2 is performing so it's gonna be off the hook.

I predict:

Kanye will get 3
Usher will get 5
Alicia will get 3 or 4
Green Day will get 4
Maroon 5 will get 1

but when are they?

8 pm eastern time on CBS....but double check cuz I might be wrong

8 pm eastern time on CBS....but double check cuz I might be wrong
OK whats the date? Tonight?

OK whats the date? Tonight?
I think so :nod:

I think so :nod:
Yeah it is :lol: I asked my parents

Yeah it is :lol: I asked my parents

I can't wait :D

I hope Loretta Lynn manages to take home a couple.

I am going to be watching because I want to see the Black Eyed Peas perform. I want to see who will be robbed by not getting a Grammy.

metallica will be robbed without a doubt yo.

who is preforming?

who is preforming?

Usher (I'm pretty sure)
Black Eyed Peas
Alicia Keys (performing once with with Jamie Foxx and once solo)
Maroon 5
U2 (I think)
I don't know who else

I want to see J-Lo and Marc Anthony singing together, Usher and everyone else........... :)

Ok I HATE Usher but I happened to actually think his song with James Brown was awesome :D

Ok I HATE Usher but I happened to actually think his song with James Brown was awesome :D
Isn't Usher the guy who shows the drummer for Air Supply and all those guys where to sit?


That's an old Weird Al joke. :lol:

Isn't Usher the guy who shows the drummer for Air Supply and all those guys where to sit?


That's an old Weird Al joke. :lol:
Yeah :rotflmao:

Overall I'm pretty satisfied with the winners- Ray Charles etc. I guess people who like edgy music would be pissed off, but there are more important things in life to think about. I like that You Don't Know My Name won as best r&b song and though the John Mayer song may not be a universal critical favorite, the message of the song is certainly something I can get behind. Same with Los Lonely Boys' song Heaven whose lyrics are the thoughts of quite a few people. Norah Jones' song Sunrise is decent too and I guess vashti1999 is pleased that his idol Prince beat Usher and won traditional r&b performance. Overall not a bad little bunch of trophies. I went to bed at 9:30 so I only saw the first 1/2 of the show. I'm more interested in who won what rather than the performances. Marc Anthony and J-Lo seem like they're not really in love with each other though, pity.

metallica will be robbed without a doubt yo.

Jethro Tull had a new album out last year?

I am kinda surprised Ray Charles won because his album probably was (next to Usher) the least critical acclaimed album of the nominees. I figured the Grammys were finished with the predictable "let's hand the Grammy to the artist who just died" cliche. However, rather him over Kanye and Usher.

I only caught the opening 10 minutes with Maroon 5, Gwen and Franz Ferdinand because frankly they were the only performances I was really looking forward to anyways, so having them in the first 10 minute melody worked out convieniently so I was able to turn the channel and watch Charmed instead, lol.

However, I am glad Usher DIDN'T have a Santana/Michael Jackson year.... when I saw that closeup of him in the big Jacko sunglasses, I was thinking "oh god, I bet this is gonna be The Usher Show". I know Usher was the biggest star of 2004, but I thought he was incredibly overrated. Winning Album Of The Year would've made his already-swollen ego worse.

Im extremley glad Maroon 5 won best new artist! :D

And Green Day actually sounded good

I thought the Grammys were okay. I liked the performance of Gwen and Eve. I luv the Black Eyed Peas, but they need to sing another song besides "Let's Get It Started". I loved Maroon 5 performance. I've been thinking about buying their cd. Is it any good? I like a couple of their songs. What did every one think of Melissa Elthridge (sp?) and Joss Stone's performance? I liked how alot of true musicians were finally being recognized into the hall of fame. I think that's what they were being inducted into. I wasn't feeling the J-Lo and Marc Anthony duet. I thought Usher and James Brown did a good job. Kayne West finally has his Grammy. Anyways, any other thoughts?

. I loved Maroon 5 performance. I've been thinking about buying their cd. Is it any good?
I have it :D

Yeah it is good, i would defintiley recommned it :)

has anyone heard the Kara's Flowers album? they were Maroon 5 in the late 90's, they cut one album and appeared on Beverly Hills 90210 once, but the album flopped and faded into oblivion until Adam found success in Maroon 5.

Kurt Loder On The Grammys: Can We Get Some Answers?

02.14.2005 11:07 AM EST

How do Maroon 5 qualify for the Best New Artist award? Is mortality a new Grammy motif? Couldn't RZA have advised Quentin Tarantino on his outfit?

The 47th annual Grammy Awards show was a collection of indelible moments, moments we'll not soon forget. Not for the next day or two, anyway. I do have a few questions, though.

How do Maroon 5 qualify for the Best New Artist award? The band was formed in 1995 (under the name Kara's Flowers), and released its first album in 1997. Songs About Jane, the group's first and, so far, only album as Maroon 5, was released in 2002. Just wondering.

Wasn't it a little embarrassing, in a show dedicated to "the 50th birthday of rock and roll" (if indeed it is the 50th birthday of rock and roll — a questionable assertion), to have to hand out pat-on-the-back "lifetime achievement" awards to rock pioneer Jerry Lee Lewis and to Led Zeppelin because their actual music never won a Grammy? Or, even more vaguely, to have to name Brian Wilson a "person of the year" because his classic band, the Beach Boys, was never deemed worthy of a Grammy Award, either? On the other hand, it was nice to see Iggy Pop making his first appearance on the Grammy stage — on the "Lust for Life" T-shirt worn by Ellen DeGeneres.

Since the RZA clearly has the ear of Quentin Tarantino (having scored his "Kill Bill" movies), shouldn't he maybe advise Quent to pull back on the gangsta look a little? He may be thinking Eminem, but I was thinking Ali G.

Is mortality a new Grammy motif? "Nothin' in this life is promised," said Kanye West, "except death." The Blind Boys of Alabama came equipped with an actual coffin. And then there was the Jennifer Lopez/ Marc Anthony duet, which is the kind of thing you might see after you die. Unless you go to heaven.

— Kurt Loder

Kurt Loder On The Grammys: Can We Get Some Answers?


How do Maroon 5 qualify for the Best New Artist award? The band was formed in 1995 (under the name Kara's Flowers), and released its first album in 1997. Songs About Jane, the group's first and, so far, only album as Maroon 5, was released in 2002. Just wondering.


Well 1st of all, Kara's Flowers is not REALLY Maroon 5.

And Maroon 5 has just become popular, plus their CD came out in 2003! (well thats what it says on the back of my cd :grr: )

Plus they have a new one its unplugged and theirs new songs on it, Kurt Loder obviousy doesnt know that hes talking about :snob:

IT WAS RELEASED IN 2003 FOOLS!

And besides thats not their only album. They have a new unplugged one (yeah its a lot of the same songs but theirs new ones too)

Kurt whatever his last name is a 9308298032904

Actually, it was released on June 25, 2002 according to Amazon, but it didn't take off until late 2003.

Personally, I hate Maroon 5 and find their music overly cheesey and pretentious. It's also heavily overproduced and added to this, Adam Levine has to have the most whinny voice in the history of popular music.

Actually, it was released on June 25, 2002 according to Amazon, but it didn't take off until late 2003.

Personally, I hate Maroon 5 and find their music overly cheesey and pretentious. It's also heavily overproduced and added to this Adam Levine ahs to have the most whinny voice in the history of popular music.
:lol: We don't have the same taste in anything do we?

Their music isnt "cheesy" its just not about violence, sex, murder, and hate like most songs are today.

Well 1st of all, Kara's Flowers is not REALLY Maroon 5.

And Maroon 5 has just become popular, plus their CD came out in 2003! (well thats what it says on the back of my cd :grr: )

Plus they have a new one its unplugged and theirs new songs on it, Kurt Loder obviousy doesnt know that hes talking about :snob:

with Amazon.com as my witness (as they list release dates)... "Songs About Jane" was issued on June 25, 2002 on Octone... I believe J Records rereleased it onto a major label in 2003 (while Octone was an independent), but my copy of SAJ was dated 2002, I bought it when Harder To Breathe was out. It's a classic example of an album that really slowly took off.

:lol: We don't have the same taste in anything do we?

:lol: Maybe we do but it probably doesn't get discussed here lol. I will commend Maroon 5 though for having success in rap dominated popular culture.

Actually, it was released on June 25, 2002 according to Amazon, but it didn't take off until late 2003.


get out of my brain!!! lol

:lol: Maybe we do but it probably doesn't get discussed here lol. I will commend Maroon 5 though for having success in rap dominated popular culkture.Everyone I know hates rap now. Yay :D

Well 1st of all, Kara's Flowers is not REALLY Maroon 5.

And Maroon 5 has just become popular, plus their CD came out in 2003! (well thats what it says on the back of my cd :grr: )

Plus they have a new one its unplugged and theirs new songs on it, Kurt Loder obviousy doesnt know that hes talking about :snob:
It kinda makes sense to me why they won this year..but it also doesn't make sense to me :lol:

It kinda makes sense to me why they won this year..but it also doesn't make sense to me :lol:
Well in 2002 and 2003 no one had ever heard of them. This year their really popular, so they can be considered new i guess

Plus, their new compared to a lot of other bands that were there. Such as Green Day

And Green Day actually sounded good

excuse me? :grr: they always sound good :lol: at least i think so.

i don't like Maroon 5 and I think they're very overrated and the music is just too happy sunshine feeling. ew. but a lot of people like them so it doesn't surprise me they won.

Well in 2002 and 2003 no one had ever heard of them. This year their really popular, so they can be considered new i guess

Plus, their new compared to a lot of other bands that were there. Such as Green Day
Thats what I thought :lol:

i don't like Maroon 5 and I think they're very overrated and the music is just too happy sunshine feeling. ew. but a lot of people like them so it doesn't surprise me they won.
Micheal no offense but how many times are you gonna say that? :lol:

Yeah it doesnt surprise me either

Anyway Green Day does sound good a lot :D

excuse me? :grr: they always sound good :lol: at least i think so.

i don't like Maroon 5 and I think they're very overrated and the music is just too happy sunshine feeling. ew. but a lot of people like them so it doesn't surprise me they won.
I like a few Marron 5 songs... Harder To Breathe and This Love. She Will Be Loved really annoys me though, I dont know why :lol:

Well in 2002 and 2003 no one had ever heard of them. This year their really popular, so they can be considered new i guess

Plus, their new compared to a lot of other bands that were there. Such as Green Day

in 2002 they weren't, but mid/late 2003, they were sorta getting popular. "Harder To Breathe" was nowhere the hit that "This Love" or "She Will Be Loved" were, but it still peaked in the top 20 on the Billboard hot 100 during that fall, and the album was in the top 40 by then and had gone gold. 2004 was the year they exploded in popularity, but they'd already done reasonably well in 2003.

Micheal no offense but how many times are you gonna say that? :lol:

Yeah it doesnt surprise me either

Anyway Green Day does sound good a lot :D

as many times as you say you like them :lol:

yay you finally agree with me :D

in 2002 they weren't, but mid/late 2003, they were sorta getting popular. "Harder To Breathe" was nowhere the hit that "This Love" or "She Will Be Loved" were, but it still peaked in the top 20 on the Billboard hot 100 during that fall, and the album was in the top 40 by then and had gone gold. 2004 was the year they exploded in popularity, but they'd already done reasonably well in 2003.
Well they became really popular in 2004

I like a few Marron 5 songs... Harder To Breathe and This Love. She Will Be Loved really annoys me though, I dont know why :lol:

i like those two but She Will Be Loved makes me want to go into hissy fit mode and slap the hell out of the nearest thing to me. i don't know why, it's just too cheerful and uplifting. :lol:

as many times as you say you like them :lol:

Well that shouldnt be :lol:

i like those two but She Will Be Loved makes me want to go into hissy fit mode and slap the hell out of the nearest thing to me. i don't know why, it's just too cheerful and uplifting. :lol:
Thats a bad thing...?

Well they became really popular in 2004

i wouldn't call them "really popular", just well known and liked is more accurate.

Thats a bad thing...?

to me it is. i like songs with an actual sound that seems realistic to life, and all that bright sunshiney sound of She Will Be Loved gets to me.

i wouldn't call them "really popular", just well known and liked is more accurate.
I would call them "really popular" They DID win an award...

to me it is. i like songs with an actual sound that seems realistic to life, and all that bright sunshiney sound of She Will Be Loved gets to me.
Well to me it isnt, music should cheer you up (well it should to me)

Well that shouldnt be :lol:

(other than you) who says? :lol:

I would call them "really popular" They DID win an award...

Usher won tons of awards too and that doesn't make him "popular", it just means the people's opinions who matter (not in my opinion) say people are the winners.

Usher won tons of awards too and that doesn't make him "popular", it just means the people's opinions who matter (not in my opinion) say people are the winners.
Well I would say they are popular, a lot of people like them, you said it yourself

Well to me it isnt, music should cheer you up (well it should to me)

songs like that make me sick and the happiness of it makes me miserable. songs that have a deeper, more realistic songs cheer me up.

Well I would say they are popular, a lot of people like them, you said it yourself

everyone i know thinks their music is so gay sounding, but it seems a lot of people (none i know) like them.

not the happy type of gay either.......

everyone i know thinks their music is so gay sounding, but it seems a lot of people (none i know) like them. Whatever, I know a lot of people that like them.

to me it is. i like songs with an actual sound that seems realistic to life, and all that bright sunshiney sound of She Will Be Loved gets to me.

people really like to bash uplifting love songs... I don't get it. I mean, I've been depressed just like everyone, but... why is it that critics and music sophisticates love "life sucks, I wanna die" lyrics (there are plenty of good songs with that message) but hate songs about love? I kinda am in love with somebody right now, and I'd much rather listen to uplifting love songs instead of depressing songs when thinking about him.

not the happy type of gay either.......How many gay people do you know, I don't know any.

i don't. i don't buy into music so cheerful that it's unrealistic. you do and that's fine.

everyone i know thinks their music is so gay sounding, but it seems a lot of people (none i know) like them.

what the hell is wrong with that? I am gay, and I support quite a few fellow GLBT artists. Maroon 5 is not gay, and even if it was... SO?

How many gay people do you know, I don't know any.

i don't like it but i don't think it's gay music, my friends do. and i know 2 gay people, no more comment.

what the hell is wrong with that? I am gay, and I support quite a few fellow GLBT artists. Maroon 5 is not gay, and even if it was... SO?

i don't find it gay, it's not my type of music and since people who like it express their opinion, i am too.

there's nothing wrong with being gay either.

i don't like it but i don't think it's gay music, my friends do. and i know 2 gay people, no more comment.
Then your friends are either joking or are stupid.

How is a guy singing songs about he LOVES A GIRL gay? Seriously

I think people are looking at Maroon 5 for the wrong angle.

They are NOT some "hardcore kickass punk rock band" that is ultracool with tweens and teens. They are a melodic pop band who probably mostly appeals to college age and up. It's cool to see that Rurry likes them, but he's a minority, most M5 fans I know are my age (25) and up. Believe it or not, we "old fogies" deserve to have music to listen to instead of just relics of the 80's and 90's. If "Simple Plan is so hardcore", then more than likely, Maroon 5 is not gonna be your thing. Those of us "old farts" who love M5 can't tell you a song Simple Plan has sung, nor do we really want to.

Then your friends are either joking or are stupid.

How is a guy singing songs about he LOVES A GIRL gay? Seriously

no, they honestly think that. my brother thinks so too.

they just think the way the music sounds is gay and people i know think the lead singer sounds like a ******** boy or a girl.

no, they honestly think that. my brother thinks so too.

they just think the way the music sounds is gay and people i know think the lead singer sounds like a ******** boy or a girl.
Than they are serious idiots...and your brother is 6 and he knows what it means?

Im just saying its not gay if hes singing about how he loves a girl. Even a person with the brain the size of a mouse can figure that one out.

I think people are looking at Maroon 5 for the wrong angle.

They are NOT some "hardcore kickass punk rock band" that is ultracool with tweens and teens. They are a melodic pop band who probably mostly appeals to college age and up. It's cool to see that Rurry likes them, but he's a minority, most M5 fans I know are my age (25) and up. Believe it or not, we "old fogies" deserve to have music to listen to instead of just relics of the 80's and 90's. If "Simple Plan is so hardcore", then more than likely, Maroon 5 is not gonna be your thing. Those of us "old farts" who love M5 can't tell you a song Simple Plan has sung, nor do we really want to.

well I agree with that because Maroon 5 are not supposed to be hardcore, kickass, punk, or a rock band. Rurry and others say how much they love Maroon 5 and think it's dumb i don't, so when did Maroon 5 become popular with teens/preteens?

and i don't like Simple Plan much anymore.

Then your friends are either joking or are stupid.

How is a guy singing songs about he LOVES A GIRL gay? Seriously


well, I believe Adam Levine is heterosexual, but... Elton John, Boy George and George Michael have all sang love songs about women.

well I agree with that because Maroon 5 are not supposed to be hardcore, kickass, punk, or a rock band. Rurry and others say how much they love Maroon 5 and think it's dumb i don't, so when did Maroon 5 become popular with teens/preteens?

and i don't like Simple Plan much anymore. Well their popular with kids I know, mostly older teens and some my age.

Than they are serious idiots...and your brother is 6 and he knows what it means?

Im just saying its not gay if hes singing about how he loves a girl. Even a person with the brain the size of a mouse can figure that one out.

some people don't understand that "gay" doesn't always mean homosexual. if i'm at the store and I see a weird shirt, i say "eww that's so gay" but of course i don't think the shirt is attracted to other shirts of its same gender (anyone with a grain of sand for a brain knows what i mean). gay can be used to describe things a person individually hates so it doesn't always stay true to it's real meaning. that's what i meant when i said that.

Well their popular with kids I know, mostly older teens and some my age.

that's really weird because everyone my age i know makes fun of them.

some people don't understand that "gay" doesn't always mean homosexual. if i'm at the store and I see a weird shirt, i say "eww that's so gay" but of course i don't think the shirt is attracted to other shirts of its same gender (anyone with a grain of sand for a brain knows what i mean). gay can be used to describe things a person individually hates so it doesn't always stay true to it's real meaning. that's what i meant when i said that.
:lol: I thought so, i was gonna say that something like that, that maybe you meant that definition but i wasnt sure how to word it

that's really weird because everyone my age i know makes fun of them.
Different kids and different personalities.

that's EXACTLY what i meant, thank you :lol: i use the word gay to describe stuff that disgusts me and things i hate but of course i don't mean it's homosexual and sexually attracted to the same object of its gender.

Different kids and different personalities.

yup that's true but almost everyone in my school makes fun of them so it's hard to believe anyone my age would like them.

yup that's true but almost everyone in my school makes fun of them so it's hard to believe anyone my age would like them. Well the kids in your school might have different tastes than the one in mine. Kids who are the same age dont have to be clones, they can have different tastes in things.

yup that's true but almost everyone in my school makes fun of them so it's hard to believe anyone my age would like them.

well, what other kids think doesn't make it fact, and especially teenagers really change tastes a lot.

This is seriously going to shock the living hell out of you:
I used to take **** all the time when I was in high school in 1996... why? because I STILL liked Green Day, and everyone had turned against them and decided they sucked and were gonna suck for the end of time.

Now it's 2005 and suddenly kids who were 6 at that time love Green Day now.

Really? Most people I know can't stand them. I'm added to that group as well. Their music just seems so manufactured and overly poppy.

I think people are looking at Maroon 5 for the wrong angle.

They are NOT some "hardcore kickass punk rock band" that is ultracool with tweens and teens. They are a melodic pop band who probably mostly appeals to college age and up. It's cool to see that Rurry likes them, but he's a minority, most M5 fans I know are my age (25) and up. Believe it or not, we "old fogies" deserve to have music to listen to instead of just relics of the 80's and 90's. If "Simple Plan is so hardcore", then more than likely, Maroon 5 is not gonna be your thing. Those of us "old farts" who love M5 can't tell you a song Simple Plan has sung, nor do we really want to.


I don't care much for the teeny bopper 'fake punk' crap either and find Maroon 5 to be among the worst pop acts out there. I do like some fluff but Maroon 5 goes overboard imo especially for that girl their songs are ALWAYS about

Really? Most people I know can't stand them. I'm added to that group as well. Their music just seems so manufactured and overly poppy.

well, the fact it's CURRENT POP MUSIC that actually isn't either 1. hip hop oriented or 2. overproduced Orlando shlock that is so sugary and nobody over 13 actually likes, is what actually attracted me to them first. I am a huge fan of pop music, but I hate what "Pop" has become... M5 is one of the few out there that you can listen to as an adult without going "oh god, New Kids all over again", like we've done with Britney, N'Sync, etc... It's pop music for grown-ups.

I don't care much for the teeny bopper 'fake punk' crap either and find Maroon 5 to be among the worst pop acts out there. I do like some fluff but Maroon 5 goes overboard imo especially for that girl their songs are ALWAYS about

i agree, all their songs are about the same person. variety, please.

Really? Most people I know can't stand them. I'm added to that group as well. Their music just seems so manufactured and overly poppy.

everyone practically i know thinks they're music is fake sounding and unrealistically bubbly and cheery.

well, what other kids think doesn't make it fact, and especially teenagers really change tastes a lot.

This is seriously going to shock the living hell out of you:
I used to take **** all the time when I was in high school in 1996... why? because I STILL liked Green Day, and everyone had turned against them and decided they sucked and were gonna suck for the end of time.

Now it's 2005 and suddenly kids who were 6 at that time love Green Day now.

it does shock me because all my friends and I love Green Day.

NY Daily News

Record amount of Grammy sins

Jim Farber

Sentimental gestures have a sacred place in our lives. And deservedly so.

Someone dies, you send flowers. Or make a condolence call.

You do not, however, award them a Grammy — or eight.

But Grammy voters Sunday night bestowed a treasure trove of trophies on "Genius Loves Company," the final album from Ray Charles, who died last year.

Not only is "Genius" not the Album of the Year, it could be the least necessary album of Charles' career.

Cut in the last year of his life, "Genius" captures a man who's clearly far from his towering power. Little of his brilliant phrasing or rich tone comes through. Worse, pairing one of music's greatest stars with a round of overexposed boomer-bait names from Elton John to Van Morrison plunges straight into the heart of marketing cliché.

This is the most depressing, and reflexive, Album of the Year award since Natalie Cole won for "Unforgettable," her morbid series of duets with her late father, 15 long years ago.

The Grammy salute to Ray was just the cherry on top of a full evening's worth of moldy cake.

John Mayer's "Daughter" as Song of the Year? That had to come from some sort of split vote. Nobody thought that thing would win, including the singer himself. Backstage, Mayer joked that he thought he should screw off the top half of the award for himself and give the base to Alicia Keys for "If I Ain't Got You."

Mayer's piece reeks of insincerity. An icky ode to good child-rearing, the song seems like some speech you'd hear on "Leave It toBeaver" from Eddie Haskell, the guy who was always sucking up to his parents by telling them what they wanted to hear.

Not to be outdone in this year's sins, there's the "Best New Artist" award.

Of the five choices, voters went for the worst: Maroon 5. Not since A Taste of Honey beat Elvis Costello in 1977 has there been a doozy of a boo-boo like this. Contenders Kanye West, Gretchen Wilson and Los Lonely Boys all have it over Maroon in innovation, personality and just plain tunes.

Grammy voters also fell into the trap of giving long-running artists awards for inferior works just because they felt self-conscious about ignoring their greatest ones.

Both Rod Stewart and Brian Wilson bagged their first prizes this year — for some of their lousiest recordings. Rod was honored for the third of his Standards CDs, (as Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album). Brian Wilson got the Best Rock Instrumental Performance trinket for "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow." The latter is a novelty throwaway, the former manages to make Cole Porter songs seem unsophisticated.

Did voters get everything wrong?

Not quite. Green Day's "American Idiot" landed Best Rock Album, which it certainly is. And Alicia Keys took four R&B awards for material that returns the genre to a golden age.

But otherwise, Grammy voters brought us back to the dark years — that terrifying era when dross like "We Are the World" took top honors, and Jethro Tull were seen as the world's greatest makers of heavy metal.

has there been a doozy of a boo-boo like this.

that's the perfect description for how i feel about their music. i think Kanye West was more deserving than Maroon 5. what's with the name "Maroon 5" anyway? that's part of why my friends consider them a gay band.

maybe I'm speaking as a Maroon 5 fan, but... how is Kanye more innovative? I admit... Maroon 5 is a pop band, they are catchy and fun, and not really innovative, but what makes Kanye West a better artist than them? just because he mixes hip hop and gospel? Didn't Kirk Franklin do that a decade ago?

that article correctly identified Maroon 5's music: as a doozy of boo-boo. Kanye West, first of all, has a good voice and his music has a meaning true to life, not silly music, which is obsessive, like Maroon 5.

IMO, if anyone deserved to win over Maroon 5, it would've been Franz Ferdinand, but I'm not sure if they were up for the award or not.

I don't see the hoopla of Kanye West or what seperates him from the 100 other overrated overhyped entities in hip hop music (am not a hip hop fan in the slightest)

that article correctly identified Maroon 5's music: as a doozy of boo-boo. Kanye West, first of all, has a good voice and his music has a meaning true to life, not silly music, which is obsessive, like Maroon 5.

why aren't love songs "true to life"? I am sure everyone has somebody that "She Will Be Loved" (or they can change the pronoun if gay or female to He) really makes them think about.

Maroon 5 aren't even a new band as it is, so that's one reason. i just consider their music fake and it doesn't really have a meaning, it just says the same stuff over so much that you'll get sick of it.

awwwwww....i still think its cute that john mayers gonna give the base of song of the year to alicia keys

awwwwww....i still think its cute that john mayers gonna give the base of song of the year to alicia keys

i thought that was funny :lol: i think Alicia Keys is underrated.

why aren't love songs "true to life"? I am sure everyone has somebody that "She Will Be Loved" (or they can change the pronoun if gay or female to He) really makes them think about.

you have a good point there, but with all the silliness and fake sugary lyrics, it makes you ignore the point of the song and get sick and tired of the fakeness. surely "she will be loved" over and over gets annoying. the song has a good meaning but the love is expressed poorly.

Ironically, Kanye West remixed "This Love" for Maroon 5. The remix is available on the UK "She Will Be Loved" single. How weird. I wonder what it sounds like (though I'll NEVER bring myself to buyin it).

well it's probably better than the original song. still, i don't wanna listen to it and waste my time.

omg both maroon 5 lovers and haters, read this:

http://www.mindviz.com/messages.php?id=114 :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think I spoke my last words about M5 on the subject.

M5 is just right for me.
-hip hop alienates me
-I am too old for all the fake "teen punk" crap (especially since when I was a teen... there actually was punk, unlike today where people think Ashlee Simpson is)
-Britney is too manufactured for me
-Beyonce and Christina oversing too much
-stuff like Radiohead that is "adult rock" that gets good reviews are too pretentious for me
etc...

Maroon 5 is maybe one of about 5 artists on the top 100 right now I can honestly say I'd cross the street to see if they came into town, because they actually appeal to my tastes, while the others don't.

I think I spoke my last words about M5 on the subject.

M5 is just right for me.
-hip hop alienates me
-I am too old for all the fake "teen punk" crap (especially since when I was a teen... there actually was punk, unlike today where people think Ashlee Simpson is)
-Britney is too manufactured for me
-Beyonce and Christina oversing too much
-stuff like Radiohead that is "adult rock" that gets good reviews are too pretentious for me
etc...

Maroon 5 is maybe one of about 5 artists on the top 100 right now I can honestly say I'd cross the street to see if they came into town, because they actually appeal to my tastes, while the others don't.

actually NOBODY thinks Ashlee Simpson is punk and nobody likes her music. anyway, what exactly is punk and what exactly is poser? we weren't born a punk so either every punk is a poser or none of them are. at least Beyonce has talent, even if she expresses it in the wrong way. i don't think Maroon 5 are worthy of the attention they get or all the fans they generate, and it puzzles me how they get such good reviews. but everyone has their own tastes, and I know Maroon 5 don't appeal to mine.

Really? Most people I know can't stand them. I'm added to that group as well. Their music just seems so manufactured and overly poppy.
As I said, everyone has an opinion.

why aren't love songs "true to life"? I am sure everyone has somebody that "She Will Be Loved" (or they can change the pronoun if gay or female to He) really makes them think about.
Seriously. Hes making it sounds like everyone hates each other so no love songs are true

actually NOBODY thinks Ashlee Simpson is punk and nobody likes her music. anyway, what exactly is punk and what exactly is poser? we weren't born a punk so either every punk is a poser or none of them are. at least Beyonce has talent, even if she expresses it in the wrong way. i don't think Maroon 5 are worthy of the attention they get or all the fans they generate, and it puzzles me how they get such good reviews. but everyone has their own tastes, and I know Maroon 5 don't appeal to mine.
There are more catorgies in life than "punk" or "poser."

Beyonce has talent? :rotflmao:

Anyway i agree with the last line. Everyone has an opinion

I don't care much for the teeny bopper 'fake punk' crap either and find Maroon 5 to be among the worst pop acts out there. I do like some fluff but Maroon 5 goes overboard imo especially for that girl their songs are ALWAYS about
Maroon 5 is not, IMO a "pop act."

Just because you think they are doesnt mean they are. Nothing is good or bad for a fact, its just peoples opinions on everything. Maroon 5, IMO, isn't "fluff", they just dont sing about death, murder, killing, hate, drinking, drugs, ect.

Yes, personally I tend to go for attists who have a more underground/cult appeal. I'm a huge Bjork fan and I've come to a realization long ago that she'll never be a big album seller or have any big hits. Most of the mainstream crap isn't for me. I like all genres of music - In MODERATION.

How would you classify them? Whenever I'm in a record they're under the pop/rock section. Their music has pop appeal too or else they wouldn't be as popular as they are at the moment.

Maroon 5 wouldn't be half bad if they kept everything in moderation, but they wear out the same old idea so fast. if they had some originality and variety, i might just like them.

Maroon 5 wouldn't be half bad if they kept everything in moderation, but they wear out the same old idea so fast. if they had some originality and variety, i might just like them. There a group that sings about love, so if they sung a song about murder it woudnt make sense. Same thing with Metallica, they sing about death so if they sung a song about love it wouldnt make sense.

And just cause you guys say they are bad doesnt mean they are bad. Just cause i say their good doesnt mean theyre good. It depends on the person your talking to

How would you classify them? Whenever I'm in a record they're under the pop/rock section. Their music has pop appeal too or else they wouldn't be as popular as they are at the moment.
Id say rock...not hardcore rock though

Actually Metallica have sung about love.

Id say rock...not hardcore rock though

no defianently pop

i agree, all their songs are about the same person. variety, please.
How do you know that? They dont use names in songs. "Songs About Jane" is just a title

I'd second that. You won't hear any rock station playing their music.

no defianently pop
Pop and rock is basically the same thing, pop is just less hardcore rock

Maroon 5....rock? ROCK??? you've got to be kidding. they're as pop as you can get, maybe not next to Britney Spears, but close. She Will Be Loved, This Love, and most of their songs are definitely pop.

Pop and rock is basically the same thing, pop is just less hardcore rock

nope

I know many who would take offense to that. Rock is nowhere as commercial as pop. Sure the two genres often blend but they're different.

Maroon 5....rock? ROCK??? you've got to be kidding. they're as pop as you can get, maybe not next to Britney Spears, but close. She Will Be Loved, This Love, and most of their songs are definitely pop.
AS POP AS YOU CAN GET? I wouldnt go that far

You guys are thinking of rock as bands like Green Day...thats HARD rock. Maroon 5 is not hard rock but i wouldnt say its pop. I mean The Beatles are considered rock and they dont slam on their gutairs as loud as possible, scream, and do stuff loud rockers do.

Pop and rock is basically the same thing, pop is just less hardcore rock

actually no. they're two different things, just as different as night and day. theres no way Metallica, AC/DC, and other rock bands and Maroon 5 are found in the same section at a music store.

actually no. they're two different things, just as different as night and day. theres no way Metallica, AC/DC, and other rock bands and Maroon 5 are found in the same section at a music store.

Metallica=Hard Rock. AC/DC= Hard Rock
Maroon 5= Regualr Rock

Well actually I would say M5 is like a mix of both. Some songs are poppy ( She Will Be Loved, Shiver) while some songs would be more rock (This Love, Harder to Breath)

AS POP AS YOU CAN GET? I wouldnt go that far

You guys are thinking of rock as bands like Green Day...thats HARD rock. Maroon 5 is not hard rock but i wouldnt say its pop. I mean The Beatles are considered rock and they dont slam on their gutairs as loud as possible, scream, and do stuff loud rockers do.

yes, as pop as you can get. but with the exception of Christina and Britney.

none of your comparisons are valid. rock is rock, hardcore or not. Maroon 5 is POP. and no, Green Day isn't hard rock. you've got the music genders all confused.

yes, as pop as you can get. but with the exception of Christina and Britney.

none of your comparisons are valid. rock is rock, hardcore or not. Maroon 5 is POP. and no, Green Day isn't hard rock. you've got the music genders all confused.
Im sorry. I would nt go as far as "as pop as you can get". Id say their like a mix

Metallica=Hard Rock. AC/DC= Hard Rock
Maroon 5= Regualr Rock

Well actually I would say M5 is like a mix of both. Some songs are poppy ( She Will Be Loved, Shiver) while some songs would be more rock (This Love, Harder to Breath)

Maroon 5 isn't a single bit rock.

oh please, Harder to Breathe is no more a rock song than Avril's song Sk8er Boi, which is pop. and This Love is DEFINITELY a pop song, no exceptions.

Why dont we all agree to disagree? This is getting really annoying

Maroon 5 isn't a single bit rock.

oh please, Harder to Breathe is no more a rock song than Avril's song Sk8er Boi, which is pop. and This Love is DEFINITELY a pop song, no exceptions. Since you are supposedly a music genuis, i WOULD like to know, what is the difference between pop and rock?

Even though I hate Avril more than Maroon 5 I would agree. She's more rock than them and SHE'S POP.

this is a civilized argument, if you can't continue to argue because you've been proven wrong, then fine.

this is a civilized argument, if you can't continue to argue because you've been proven wrong, then fine.
I HAVENT BEEN PROVEN WRONG! Im tired of arguing. Quit putting words in my mouth.

Fine we'll continue to argue. You seem to enjoy it

Since you are supposedly a music genuis, i WOULD like to know, what is the difference between pop and rock?

pop is the type of music you could dance to. examples of pop bands are Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Destiny's Child (in certain songs like Lose my Breath), and songs that have a rhythm that can be danced to with a steady beat. Rock is an inconsistent type of music, usually associated with loud instruments such as drums and guitars. it doesn't take much listening to.. to tell the difference from pop and rock, buddy.

No ones answered my question. What's the difference between pop and rock?

Maroon 5 isn't a single bit rock.

I would say they are a little bit, although i dont really know the difference between pop and rock

Even though I hate Avril more than Maroon 5 I would agree. She's more rock than them and SHE'S POP.

Sk8er Boi is a mixture of pop and alternative rock.

pop is the type of music you could dance to. examples of pop bands are Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Destiny's Child (in certain songs like Lose my Breath), and songs that have a rhythm that can be danced to with a steady beat. Rock is an inconsistent type of music, usually associated with loud instruments such as drums and guitars. it doesn't take much listening to.. to tell the difference from pop and rock, buddy.Maroon 5 has drums and gutairs. Yeah I could see people dancing to This Love, maybe Shiver, probably Sunday Morning, but I cany see people dancing to She Will Be Loved, Harder to Breath, The Sun, Tangled, Sweetest Goodbye, THrough With You...ect

Maybe you havent heard enough of Maroon 5's songs. Some of their songs have loud gutairs, but their popular songs really dont. Harder to Breath you can defintiley hear it.

And all music has drums....usually....

No ones answered my question. What's the difference between pop and rock?

i did.

I would say they are a little bit, although i dont really know the difference between pop and rock

nope, not at all.

i did.
Yeah sorry, i didnt see that

Id say some of their songs are pop, some are rock. Have you heard all of theirs songs? A lot of songs (mostly the last few songs) have a lot of gutair, but most of their popular ones do sound poppy

Maroon 5 has drums and gutairs. Yeah I could see people dancing to This Love, maybe Shiver, probably Sunday Morning, but I cany see people dancing to She Will Be Loved, Harder to Breath, The Sun, Tangled, Sweetest Goodbye, THrough With You...ect

Maybe you havent heard enough of Maroon 5's songs. Some of their songs have loud gutairs, but their popular songs really dont. Harder to Breath you can defintiley hear it.

And all music has drums....usually....

do Maroon 5 play their guitars loud and slam on their drums or do they use them to blend in with the background of the music.

oh come on, i suck at dancing and i could easily dance to Harder to Breathe and This Love. we played This Love at our school social because it is easy to dance to. All pop songs can't be danced to, but theres no doubt She Will Be Loved is a pop song.

Id say some of their songs are pop, some are rock. Have you heard all of theirs songs? A lot of songs (mostly the last few songs) have a lot of gutair, but most of their popular ones do sound poppy

if some of their songs are rock, give me the links to downloads of at least 3 of them. right here.

do Maroon 5 play their guitars loud and slam on their drums or do they use them to blend in with the background of the music.

oh come on, i suck at dancing and i could easily dance to Harder to Breathe and This Love. we played This Love at our school social because it is easy to dance to. All pop songs can't be danced to, but theres no doubt She Will Be Loved is a pop song.
YEah She Will Be Loved is a pop song, I agree with that

I SAID This Love is easy to dance to. Read my post.

Anyway, some of their songs there are gutairs, but I know a lot of artists (Bryan Adams for example) who do not slam gutairs and are, yet, put in the rock section of the store.

if some of their songs are rock, give me the links to downloads of at least 3 of them. right here.
I dont have them. I only have the CD, i dont downloard music.

about She Will Be Loved, you said you can't see people dancing to it but yet it's a dance song. thats a contradiction.

Maroon 5 isn't rock. plain and simple. it only sounds like rock to you because you WANT to think it is.

The song im listening to now has a lot of gutair (Not Coming Home). Basically throughout the song.

about She Will Be Loved, you said you can't see people dancing to it but yet it's a dance song. thats a contradiction.

Maroon 5 isn't rock. plain and simple. it only sounds like rock to you because you WANT to think it is.
SOME of it is. You havent heard all of their songs.

I still think Pop and Rock are very simular and a lot of pop bands can also be considered rock bands, which is probably why Pop and Rock is catorgized together in the store.

pop and rock aren't similiar. is there any similiarity between Toxic (britney spears) and Boulevard of Broken Dreams (green day)? none whatsoever. i'd like to see you try to dance to a rock song. you'd look like a demented dork.

Sk8er Boi is a mixture of pop and alternative rock.

Harder To Breathe probably rocked harder than Sk8er Boi did.

pop is the type of music you could dance to. examples of pop bands are Black Eyed Peas, Maroon 5, Destiny's Child (in certain songs like Lose my Breath), and songs that have a rhythm that can be danced to with a steady beat. Rock is an inconsistent type of music, usually associated with loud instruments such as drums and guitars. it doesn't take much listening to.. to tell the difference from pop and rock, buddy.

sort of.....Pop is easy listening, the kind of song your mom sings along with in the car (ie. Sunday Morning), rock is harder theres no other way to describe it. Neither is a bad thing, music being pop isn't a bad thing...its all a matter of personal taste.

pop and rock aren't similiar. is there any similiarity between Toxic (britney spears) and Boulevard of Broken Dreams (green day)? none whatsoever. i'd like to see you try to dance to a rock song. you'd look like a demented dork.

you really are too young to remember the 70's and 80's, huh? Tons of rock bands did dance songs back then.

ok, maybe i am, but there's no way Maroon 5 is rock.

you really are too young to remember the 70's and 80's, huh? Tons of rock bands did dance songs back then.

rock bands have obviously changed as times went on.

Micheal, how much of Maroon 5 have you heard? You cant just go by whats played on the radio

more than you think.

Why dont we all agree to disagree? This is getting really annoying

I agree with this. Everyone has different tastes... no matter how many times one will hear "Maroon 5 sucks", we're not gonna change our opinions. It's not like 6th grade anymore when one "cool" person suddenly dictated that Vanilla Ice sucked, and suddenly the entire class threw their VI tapes out with the garbage because one person said he sucked. (even tho Vanilla Ice is garbage)

Maroon 5 is inoffensive pop music, they really aren't doing anything so bad. Is it such a crime that they're making music that adults can actually listen to?

We all know the 80s are known for their hard rock, but Bryan Adams was also in that era and he was not hard rock at all, yet he is still considered rock

I agree with this. Everyone has different tastes... no matter how many times one will hear "Maroon 5 sucks", we're not gonna change our opinions. It's not like 6th grade anymore when one "cool" person suddenly dictated that Vanilla Ice sucked, and suddenly the entire class threw their VI tapes out with the garbage because one person said he sucked. (even tho Vanilla Ice is garbage)

Maroon 5 is inoffensive pop music, they really aren't doing anything so bad. Is it such a crime that they're making music that adults can actually listen to?I agree :nod:

more than you think.
What songs?

inoffensive pop music

POP MUSIC. see Joe?

i don't care what you guys think about them but Joe calling them rock made me have to tell him that they're pop.

you really are too young to remember the 70's and 80's, huh? Tons of rock bands did dance songs back then.
Plus, rock bands are allowed to have an occasional slow song

POP MUSIC. see Joe?

i don't care what you guys think about them but Joe calling them rock made me have to tell him that they're pop.

They are like a mix of both, being you havent heard all of their music you wouldnt know. They are catorigized in both the pop and rock section of some stores around me

Micheal, you never answered my question. What songs have you heard of M5?

Im listneing to Harder to Breath right now, and you either closed your ears while listening to it or havent heard it, because it includes all of the things of rock you explained

They are like a mix of both, being you havent heard all of their music you wouldnt know. They are catorigized in both the pop and rock section of some stores around me

well, I think Maroon 5 may have more rock influences than a lot of said genre acts, but for the most part, they are making "pop" music.

I don't think "Pop" is a dirty word like some people make it out to be. Ever since Britney and Backstreet Boys came out, people suddenly are so afraid of the word "pop", whereas they weren't before 1998 or so. Maroon 5 is pop, Gwen Stefani is pop, Matchbox 20 is pop, Elton John is pop, not all pop music sounds like Britney. That's like saying all rock sucks because you don't like Limp Bizkit.

I agree with this. Everyone has different tastes... no matter how many times one will hear "Maroon 5 sucks"
:yeahthat :nod: That is EXACTLY what I was thinking.

well, I think Maroon 5 may have more rock influences than a lot of said genre acts, but for the most part, they are making "pop" music.

I don't think "Pop" is a dirty word like some people make it out to be. Ever since Britney and Backstreet Boys came out, people suddenly are so afraid of the word "pop", whereas they weren't before 1998 or so. Maroon 5 is pop, Gwen Stefani is pop, Matchbox 20 is pop, Elton John is pop, not all pop music sounds like Britney. That's like saying all rock sucks because you don't like Limp Bizkit.I agree some songs are pop, most of their popular songs, but songs like "Harder to Breath" can, in a way, be considered rock.

I just really dont understand why people force their opinions on people. Thats what gets me the most. We're not gonna change out minds about things we love because some people may not feel the same way.

Micheal, you never answered my question. What songs have you heard of M5?

Im listneing to Harder to Breath right now, and you either closed your ears while listening to it or havent heard it, because it includes all of the things of rock you explained

Harder to Breathe, This Love, She Will Be Loved, and Shiver.

Harder to Breathe, This Love, She Will Be Loved, and Shiver.
Exactly. Those are only 4 out of the 12 songs on the CD

If anyone can remember, can someone tell me if Hoobastank won any awards for their song "The Reason"?

If anyone can remember, can someone tell me if Hoobastank won any awards for their song "The Reason"?

No, it was the only nominee for record, song or best album that didn't win anything.