Please pardon me, but I'm a bit of a fitness & nutrition buff.
In episode #2, "The Meershatz Pipe," scene 3, Laura tells Rob she weighs "112lbs." Mary states her height in Season 1 of TMTMS as being 5' 7". According to the Hamwi Formula (http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/iwc) for women, Laura's ideal weight range is between 127 - 159lbs. To me, she doesn't look thin enough to only weigh in at 112lbs. What do you think?

Steve

She was "overwrought." Definitely NOT "overweight."

Please pardon me, but I'm a bit of a fitness & nutrition buff.
In episode #2, "The Meershatz Pipe," scene 3, Laura tells Rob she weighs "112lbs." Mary states her height in Season 1 of TMTMS as being 5' 7". According to the Hamwi Formula (http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/iwc) for women, Laura's ideal weight range is between 127 - 159lbs. To me, she doesn't look thin enough to only weigh in at 112lbs. What do you think?

Steve

I've noticed this, too, Steve. In "I Love Lucy," Lucy Ricardo does the same thing in "The Diet." She says she weighs 132 and is a size 12. Well, I'm 5'8", I weigh more than 132 lbs and I wear size 10. In the 50's, size 12 was considered "fit." Nowadays, anything over size 8 is considered large. I've wondered about both of those differentials.

Lolac
:confused:

If she is in fact 5'7" (I'm assuming without shoes), it's possible she weighed only 112, but I'd have guessed about 120. As a dancer she was probably in excellent shape, but toned muscle weighs more per cubic inch than fat does. Then again, people do have a tendency to subtract five or ten pounds when giving their weight. I don't know why.

She was "overwrought." Definitely NOT "overweight." :lol:

Also sizes back then ran smaller so Lucy's size 12 is more like today's size 8.

I have always thought that Mary Tyler Moore had (has) the perfect figure. I don't know how she does it at all. She is in her late sixties and still manages the same figure that she had while on The Dick Van Dyke Show and The Mary Tyler Moore Show , not to mention the fact that she is a vegetarian, an extremely hard feat for a diabetic.

I think Mary was one of the early adopters of the waif-look. In TMTMS she wore some tight outfits which showed off her figure. I just watched an episode the other day where she tries on a green dress with a see through front and there is not an ounce of fat on her!

I think Mary was one of the early adopters of the waif-look. In TMTMS she wore some tight outfits which showed off her figure. I just watched an episode the other day where she tries on a green dress with a see through front and there is not an ounce of fat on her!


I love that episode! :rofl: Lolac

I've noticed that throughout the five seasons of TDVDS she seems to get thinner with time. In some of the first episodes she doesn't look at all as thin as she does later on- especially in her arms and cheeks. And then on TMTMS she is an absolute stick.
But still I wouldn't guess that she weighed as little as 112lbs. I think Pentimento is right - I think she's fudging a little. But there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. ;)

I JUST saw that episode! I immediately thought, 112? Sorry, Mary, NO WAY! Interesting you're bringing that up!

I think I thought the same thing when I've
seen that episode. I imagine Carl let Mary
herself fudge on those numbers if a higher
weight was first given. Unfortunately, Mary
seems to have always wanted to be thinner
although I think she always looked better
(and more healthy) not so darn skinny. She
seems to have always been sorta compulsive
that way. They are so many things to ask
Carl, or Mary, or any of them that we'll
probably never know the answers.

I have a friend who is a paralegal. Believe it or not, here's his take on this subject.
"Laura didn't fudge. She obviously weighs more than 112lbs, which means she couldn't have been referring to herself. And she never told Rob he couldn't out wrestle her, specifically, she merely said that he couldn't "out wrestle a 112lb woman," and that was her subjective observation. You assumed she was talking about herself. Shame on you."
I hate lawyers :bash: !

Steve

lol!

I love that episode! :rofl: Lolac
What episode is that?? If you all love it...I want to see it cause it must be good!!!

Since I penned my last response (egad, 2004????), I have become an ACE certified personal fitness trainer. I weigh 113, so it's not out of the question that she is 112...but if she is, she is still underweight. Body fat on a woman should be at 21-24%. An athlete may weight in at 20% or less, and MTM is a dancer, so she may qualify, and she may actually come in at that weight after all. If she doesn't look it, it may be because of muscle and tone.

What episode is that?? If you all love it...I want to see it cause it must be good!!!

Hi LauraNamesake,

It looks like Lolac was answering my post, which was about The Mary Tyler Moore Show season 5 episode "You Try to be a Nice Guy."

MTM has always had a great figure, no matter what she weighed. However the first season of her own show she looked a bit too thin. I read an interview where she was talking about being diagnosed as a diabetic and she decided to lose weight. She said that her (then) husband Grant Tinker used to complain that her elbows were sharp. lol

In one episode someone offered Mary Richards a slice of pizza and she declined saying that she had stepped on the scale that morning and she weighed "a hundred and eighteen big ones". They didn't look big on her.

A few seasons later she put on a couple of healthy pounds. I recall the episode where she went to visit Rhoda in New York and Rhoda exclaimed "I see you've got a new body!" Mary told her that she gained twelve pounds and Rhoda asked her why she only gains weight in erogenous zones, ha!