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TJ
01-15-2005, 06:01 PM
A lot of problems lately... let me address a few things.

First and foremost, this is a LITB board. Yes, there is only so much you can talk about LITB. That's why a single off-topic thread is allowed. This is the rule on all sitcom boards here. The LITB board will not receive any preferential treatment. This is not a teen chat line board where you just talk about whatever you want. If you want to talk about off topic stuff continuously then you can use the Chit Chat board whichi is linked at the top of the page.

Some of you are just very immature and have a lot of growing up to do. Telling an admin 'screw you' or other nasty things is a very quick way to get yourself banned.

Some of you are just phonies and frauds... namely "Tonyd"... he had you all fooled, posting on 4-5 different names. He made them all up.

66.41.74.222 : c-66-41-74-222.mn.client2.attbi.com
duluthduke 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
OK Beaver Fan 89 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
SDGirl90 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
Tonyd 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]

Those of you who wish to follow the rules are welcome to stay. Those of you want no rules and an unmoderated board, then this is not the place for you. If they don't say it on LITB, then don't say it here!

miss landers
01-15-2005, 06:54 PM
For making things clear! I've found it very annoying to sort through posts that have nothing to do with LITB. I'm glad you're putting an end to the teenybopper chit chat club conducted here by the very few. Thanks!

Mijada
01-15-2005, 07:59 PM
Geez, I didn't realize things were getting so out of hand or that Tonyd was using multiple names. Thanks for putting a stop to it though before it got worse.

rockrgurl71111
01-15-2005, 10:52 PM
Geez, I didn't realize things were getting so out of hand or that Tonyd was using multiple names. Thanks for putting a stop to it though before it got worse.

Tonyd has a double life! :lol:

Pavan
01-15-2005, 10:54 PM
Yes, this Tonyd has problems trying to fool people. Aliases are NOT allowed, and we WILL find out if you have another name. And some people are very rude not following the rules, by doing whatever they feel like then going on other boards saying we are discrimenating against. Rules are meant to be followed, that is why they are there. I hope this 12 or 13 year old has rules in her house, you know who you are.

I think one off-topic thread is very fair, but this person continues to create new threads, and they will be deleted, and the user will be banned.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 09:50 AM
A lot of problems lately... let me address a few things.

First and foremost, this is a LITB board. Yes, there is only so much you can talk about LITB. That's why a single off-topic thread is allowed. This is the rule on all sitcom boards here. The LITB board will not receive any preferential treatment. This is not a teen chat line board where you just talk about whatever you want. If you want to talk about off topic stuff continuously then you can use the Chit Chat board whichi is linked at the top of the page.

Some of you are just very immature and have a lot of growing up to do. Telling an admin 'screw you' or other nasty things is a very quick way to get yourself banned.

Some of you are just phonies and frauds... namely "Tonyd"... he had you all fooled, posting on 4-5 different names. He made them all up.

66.41.74.222 : c-66-41-74-222.mn.client2.attbi.com
duluthduke 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
OK Beaver Fan 89 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
SDGirl90 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]
Tonyd 66.41.74.222 [Find Posts by User] [View Other IP Addresses for this User]

Those of you who wish to follow the rules are welcome to stay. Those of you want no rules and an unmoderated board, then this is not the place for you. If they don't say it on LITB, then don't say it here!

well it's obvious that Amy (OK Beaver Fan 89) and AJ/Tonyd would have the same IP address, as they are brother and sister. and duluthduke cannot possibly be Tonyd because i knew duluthduke on here long before Tonyd registered. and if I'm correct he registered in late 2003. and about SDGirl, i have nothing to say. I just know that you're wrong about him using all those names. i have a lot of proof.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 09:56 AM
I see Tonyd has been banned. I can think of another member who deserves banning much more than he does.

evermore
01-16-2005, 10:09 AM
I know Duke very well from other message board rooms, and I think very highly of him. Multiple screen names is not his M O. Now there is someone else here who does use a lot of names.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 10:29 AM
I also talked to him since I registered here almost a year ago so he can't possibly be the same as Tonyd.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 10:31 AM
For making things clear! I've found it very annoying to sort through posts that have nothing to do with LITB. I'm glad you're putting an end to the teenybopper chit chat club conducted here by the very few. Thanks!

"teenybopper chit chat club"? :rolleyes:

jam4me
01-16-2005, 10:36 AM
I know duluthduke from another message board & what you are accusing him of is impossible!!

I support him 100 %!!!!!

What is this the McCarthy hearings??? or an LITB board?

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 10:52 AM
are you from the TVLand board? i used to post there.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 10:58 AM
Yes, I only came over here to support my friend after I was told what was going on!

evermore
01-16-2005, 10:59 AM
Duke has been a wonderful poster at the other board. This does not sound like him at all.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 11:10 AM
Duke has been a wonderful poster at the other board. This does not sound like him at all.


Yes, evermore, he also doesn't play the games others do over there-who shall remain nameless!!!! They post here & try to go to our boards & get trouble started. They always get deleted so they are jealous of a few posters over there & like to troll around over there, trying to get trouble started! I see they responded negatively about our friend on this thread all ready! Figures!

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 11:17 AM
he was always really nice when I talked to him so I wouldn't believe that he'd do that. besides, logically it's not him as they registered here 8 months apart.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 11:29 AM
he was always really nice when I talked to him so I wouldn't believe that he'd do that. besides, logically it's not him as they registered here 8 months apart.


And of course, none of them can get on here & defend themselves, seeing how they've been banned. Figures! :mad:

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 11:41 AM
I talk to AJ/Tonyd on other boards so I can always pass on messages from him. they should at least get a chance to defend themselves, before anything final happens to them.

evermore
01-16-2005, 12:02 PM
Last year, they did a search on 2 members here, both came up with the same IP address, but they each lived in different states. I don't trust these investigations at all. As for Duke, he has been a great guy, and it is too bad that the search made him look differently. I am not familiar with any of the other names, but I do know that Duke is not a screen name abuser.

TJ
01-16-2005, 12:14 PM
Let's assume for a minute that one of the names is really his sister, he still has no explanation for the other 2 names. He also lists his location as Lawton, OK when his ip address is from Minnesota. Take a look at this, the ip addresses don't lie. All those posts were made on the same computer.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/tonyd.jpg

Mijada
01-16-2005, 12:17 PM
Last year, they did a search on 2 members here, both came up with the same IP address, but they each lived in different states. I don't trust these investigations at all. As for Duke, he has been a great guy, and it is too bad that the search made him look differently. I am not familiar with any of the other names, but I do know that Duke is not a screen name abuser.

Yep, Duke always seemed pretty cool to me too. Never thought of him to be the troublemaking type at all. I forgot about that search that was done last year. Perhaps they should reinvestigate this one just to be sure.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:18 PM
Let's assume for a minute that one of the names is really his sister, he still has no explanation for the other 2 names. He also lists his location as Lawton, OK when his ip address is from Minnesota. Take a look at this, the ip addresses don't lie. All those posts were made on the same computer.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/tonyd.jpg

i don't believe that at all. I live in Taunton, Massachusetts, but it lists my IP from Yarmouth, Massachusetts. it's wrong.

they did a test because the IP addresses for ElvisDustyFan and Unwanted Angel were the same and it turned out wrong, so it can't be trusted.

evermore
01-16-2005, 12:22 PM
I have been communicating with Duke for almost 2 years. As far as I know, he has had only one screen name here. Duluthduke, period.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:26 PM
I met him here in February of last year and it's not at all like him to do this. those IP addresses are far from accurate. AJ only has one name here too. Think about it, duluthduke registered in 2003, AJ registered around July, his sister registered in October, and SDGirl registered around November. They all registered at times so far from eachother that there is no way they could all be the same. Usually when people have more than one name they register all around the same time, usually within the same month.

TJ
01-16-2005, 12:31 PM
You guys were all fooled, and none of you want to believe it. If I had known somebody for months and then found out the truth, then I wouldn't want to believe it either. I sent AJ an e-mail and I'm still waiting to hear back from him. If he really has nothing to hide, then he should respond.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:34 PM
as I've said, he's consulted me about it on my board and i got a reply from him. i still support both him and duluthduke. how can you explain my IP address saying i'm from Yarmouth when i'm from Taunton? oh yeah can you check my IP to see if it says I'm the same as another user? i'm wondering what it would say.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:37 PM
AJ just sent me this PM on my board:

Hi Michael: I can't believe ths actually happened, but it did! That TJ made up a story that I am using all these different names just to retaliate against me for the boycott.
All my friends have the same IP address, so Amy and I weren't able to get on at all. I finally got a friend to copy and past part of the thread and I want to thank you SO MUCH for your support! I guess I still have a few true friends! That duluth duke is a nice guy too btw! Thanks again!
AJ

evermore
01-16-2005, 12:39 PM
It is a shame.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:40 PM
I think they should be unbanned so they can atleast explain themselves.

TJ
01-16-2005, 12:40 PM
as I've said, he's consulted me about it on my board and i got a reply from him. i still support both him and duluthduke. how can you explain my IP address saying i'm from Yarmouth when i'm from Taunton? oh yeah can you check my IP to see if it says I'm the same as another user? i'm wondering what it would say.

Your IP address doesn't list your exact city. It is the city where your ISP (Internet Service Provider is located). You would admit that Oklahoma and Minnesota are not even close to each other?

Duluthduke - I assume that means Duluth, Minnesota where the ip addresses are. Tonyd's and the rest of the ip addresses are the same as Duluthduke - which is in Minnesota. I wish there was an easy way for me to explain ip addresses so you would understand it.

Here's a 2nd example of a matching ip. How much more proof do you want?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/tonyd2.jpg

miss landers
01-16-2005, 12:42 PM
Well, I for one hope this discussion will end very soon and we will all return to what brought us here in the first place - Leave It to Beaver! I love "Leave It to Beaver" and love learning as much as I can about the show, its stars, and its background in order to enjoy the series even more deeply than I do now! I'm glad the Administrator is taking a firm hand here and making the board one for LITB information and insights.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:44 PM
can you type my IP in and see what happens and post it? i'm wondering.

yeah, duluthduke lives in Minnesota. I must say that its possible AJ could be the same as SDgirl but his sister is really his sister and duluthduke isn't the same as Tonyd.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:45 PM
Well, I for one hope this discussion will end very soon and we will all return to what brought us here in the first place - Leave It to Beaver! I love "Leave It to Beaver" and love learning as much as I can about the show, its stars, and its background in order to enjoy the series even more deeply than I do now! I'm glad the Administrator is taking a firm hand here and making the board one for LITB information and insights.

I don't. without Amy, AJ, and all them, this board will be very boring.

TJ
01-16-2005, 12:49 PM
I don't see any other matching ip addresses to yours Fallon. Again, believe what you want - the ip addresses aren't lieing. It would be like DNA evidence in this case. AJ hasn't responded to any of my e-mails. If he has nothing to hide, why hasn't he replied to me?

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:51 PM
he hasn't responded because he's really mad and disgusted with you. i'm talking to him on another board right now. do you want me to share with you what he says? i will.

TJ
01-16-2005, 12:52 PM
No.. he can reply to me privately.. and we will discuss it man to man. Do not post any of his messages here. He needs to come clean with his whole story.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 12:53 PM
he just told me that he is going to respond to you.

miss landers
01-16-2005, 12:56 PM
I don't. without Amy, AJ, and all them, this board will be very boring.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I find there are many posters here who have much to say and I appreciate the information and insights they have to share with all of us. I want to know more about the show - its stars, background, scripts, anecdotes, etc. and I've learned so much here! Thanks to those who make the contributions!

TJ
01-16-2005, 12:59 PM
If you guys want to talk about non Leave it to Beaver stuff all the time, then do it on your own private boards, e-mail, instant messenger, or private messages. This board is for discussing LITB as miss landers said.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 01:02 PM
I'm sorry you feel that way. I find there are many posters here who have much to say and I appreciate the information and insights they have to share with all of us. I want to know more about the show - its stars, background, scripts, anecdotes, etc. and I've learned so much here! Thanks to those who make the contributions!

after all the commotion here and the issues with all our friends, you're probably going to be the only one posting on this board. without Amy and AJ i have no intention of staying on the LITB board.

TJ
01-16-2005, 01:05 PM
Fallon - you want to know what AJ said about you the other day. I am not sure why you are supporting him so much.

"Oh I am going to "butt out," and I think I can convince her and OK Beaver Fan to as well. I am not someone who is in awe of a person like you like poor Michael (Agent Fallon) is."

How hard would it be for him to organize a boycott with 3 others that are posting on his same computer?

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 01:11 PM
that just means that unlike him, I don't want to push your patience. it doesn't mean it's an insult and I continue to support him. I won't believe you until you present some sort of proof more legitimite than IP addresses.

miss landers
01-16-2005, 01:19 PM
after all the commotion here and the issues with all our friends, you're probably going to be the only one posting on this board. without Amy and AJ i have no intention of staying on the LITB board.


Oh, I don't know ... there seem to be plenty of others here who post - and I thank them! And I would expect new people would join the board in the future and post as well - especially if the board is focused solely on "Leave It to Beaver" because that's what brings people to the board in the first place! The Administrator is correct - if it's not about LITB discuss it elsewhere. People don't want to join a board or contribute to a board if the board is flooded with off topic posts or chit chatty stuff between a few people. New people sometimes feel unwelcomed when a board appears to be the "parlor" of a few posters who dominate the proceedings with their chit chat and off topic concerns. I think we can trust the Administrator to best manage this board.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 01:30 PM
Oh, I don't know ... there seem to be plenty of others here who post - and I thank them! And I would expect new people would join the board in the future and post as well - especially if the board is focused solely on "Leave It to Beaver" because that's what brings people to the board in the first place! The Administrator is correct - if it's not about LITB discuss it elsewhere. People don't want to join a board or contribute to a board if the board is flooded with off topic posts or chit chatty stuff between a few people. New people sometimes feel unwelcomed when a board appears to be the "parlor" of a few posters who dominate the proceedings with their chit chat and off topic concerns. I think we can trust the Administrator to best manage this board.

so basically you think that we were this little gossip clique? :rolleyes:

Mijada
01-16-2005, 01:34 PM
I'll still hang around regardless of who comes or goes. I've been here for nearly three years and have never had problems with anyone. :)

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 01:41 PM
i'd say that's pretty good :)

Pavan
01-16-2005, 02:05 PM
Agent Fallon - there is no way different people have the same IP address. Tonyd is clearly on the other names, unless someone else in the household is also posting. But as Todd said, why did he state he is from Oklahoma when he has a Minnesota IP? IP's might not be exact in the city you live in - it goes by where the cable/internet provider is; such as my IP states Union, NJ, while I'm in Linden, NJ because my cable company is located in Union, but they are not THAT far off - Minnesota and Oklahoma is a huge difference.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 02:08 PM
well, it's logical that AJ and his sister have the same IP but there's no chance that he and duluthduke are the same. as legitimite as this proof may be, i'm not going to believe it. I know both AJ and duluthduke too well.

TJ
01-16-2005, 02:08 PM
The only person that has been banned is Tonyd and that one ip address. If the other 3 names aren't posting on the same computer, why haven't they posted? It's because they are all on the same computer and that ip address was banned. Tonyd might be able to fool a lot of people, but not me. You don't believe the word of 2 administrators?

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 02:10 PM
I really don't know what I believe anymore but AJ is my friend (and so is duluthduke). i'll tell duluthduke to post and prove it to you.

TJ
01-16-2005, 02:12 PM
Fallon - you have begged me to be a moderator here many times.. now that is never going to happen. I suggest you stop talking badly about me on other boards. This nonesense needs to end.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 02:15 PM
okay fine :) but did you register on TV Land boards as calicali?

Pavan
01-16-2005, 02:15 PM
I really don't know what I believe anymore but AJ is my friend (and so is duluthduke). i'll tell duluthduke to post and prove it to you.

Having the same exact IP, is not a coincedence. If he thinks he can fool people, and still try to deny he isn't the same person, he is crazy -- we have all the proof we need. EXACT IP. IP's are unique. How can 4 different people go around having the same IP on the internet? It's like saying 4 different people have the same SSN.

evermore
01-16-2005, 02:16 PM
Duke is Duke, accept no imitations.

TJ
01-16-2005, 02:16 PM
okay fine :) but did you register on TV Land boards as calicali?

No I certainly did not.. another one of Tonyd's lies.. really he is only going to get himself in more trouble then he already is. You can't believe anything Tonyd says, he has told lie after lie.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 02:18 PM
this is all so complicated. ugh :(

rockrgurl71111
01-16-2005, 02:27 PM
this is all so complicated. ugh :(
dude tell me about it! :confused: :confused: I would also like to apologize to admin. I'm sorry.

bandito
01-16-2005, 04:20 PM
I'll still hang around regardless of who comes or goes. I've been here for nearly three years and have never had problems with anyone. :)I agree.

evermore
01-16-2005, 05:23 PM
Some one I know just tried to sign up with Sitcoms, but their IP address was denied and they live in Minnosota.

As for Duke, he is an older person and he just so happened to notice that Tonyd was from Oklahoma where he wants to move to.

I have known Duke for a while, and having various screen names is not his thing. Plus, Duke goes away a lot, and stays in hotels that provide internet service. Duke was also in the process of moving a few weeks ago, when the other board was getting saturated with porno scripts.

Duke said his name was banned and cannot get on the boards to even read the threads at this point, so if there is any private mail under his name, he cannot access it.

TJ
01-16-2005, 05:32 PM
It's so easy to sign up on the TV Land boards under multiple names and ip addresses. How many different people do you think are really posting there? On these boards though, your ip address is logged on every post you make. He has yet to explain how those 4 usernames were all made on the one single ip address. Tonyd's ip address (nor OK Beaver Fan) is not in Oklahoma, therefore he does not live in Oklahoma and it's just another one of his own lies. He's spun a big web of lies.

If you notice in Tonyd's posts they often have used exclamation points, some would say excessive use. Take a look at the style of posts and the use of exclamation points. He's not educated on ip addresses, and how they can be used to track you down to your exact location.

I banned FiremanGus' ip as I knew that was him also.. again under another alias.. really I have to wonder how many names he's posting on now.

Michael [hXc]
01-16-2005, 05:48 PM
you're making him out to be some sort of internet troll. he isn't, and in fact his sisters email address is amyinlawton and she's had it for a while so it's logically not a lie that they live there.

TJ
01-16-2005, 05:55 PM
Fallon.. you are just a kid, so I know you don't know as much as about computers and ip addresses as I do. I wish there was an easy way for me to explain it. I really don't know why I'm trying to explain it to you, since you seem convinced I'm somehow making all of this stuff up.

Tonyd, duluthduke, OK Beaver Fan 89, and SDGirl90 - all have the same IP address. There is no way to dispute that information. The ip address is located in Minnesota, not Oklahoma. These are not just coincidences. Whether he makes up all these names just for fun and games, or if there is a serious problem.. I really don't know.

It's so easy to make up an identity on the internet, but there's no going around the ip address. It's an exact match.

evermore
01-16-2005, 06:03 PM
Fireman Gus and Duke are 2 different people. Fireman Gus sent me his website just a few weeks ago and is going to school. Duke is writes and I have one of his books. Fireman is studying to be a chef.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 06:24 PM
FiremanGus & Duluthduke are two different people. Trust me, I know this for a fact!!!!! They are two different races, also!

I do happen to know about IP addresses & yes, you can "phony" an IP address. Spammers do it ALL the time.

Furthermore, if you are on dial up you are assigned a different IP number everytime you connect to the internet. It is not an exact science, as I'm sure you are aware.

Just because two posters are from the same state does NOT mean they have the same IP address....they are both from the MN. true, but they are not the same individual.

TJ
01-16-2005, 06:29 PM
Cable/DSL lines often have 'static' ip addresses.. meaning they don't change. These ip addresses were not faked, the usernames and aliases are faked. I've already posted the screenshots, again there is no disputing that. He has no answer for that. The ip addresses are EXACT matches. I feel sorry for everybody, especially to people like Michael and Kristen who were deceived.

evermore
01-16-2005, 06:37 PM
THIS IS A WEBSITE TO FIND DUKE. HE HAD SENT ME HIS BOOK AND A
MOUSE PAD LAST YEAR.




At this site you will find top-selling regional guide books by ******* such as "Where the Boats Are" and "Black Hills Byways". Everything you need to know about these books is contained in this site, including reviews and ordering information. This site is also the place to order *******'s popular photography. Many great scenic images, as well super photographs of Great Lakes shipping and the Black Hills are all available here.


I have not yet heard back from Fireman Gus, who also has a website. so I do not want to show it until he gives me his permission.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 06:38 PM
Okay, I don't mean any disrespect at all, but how does that prove that Firemangus & duluthduke have the same IP address???


And why do you have such a vendatta against Duluthduke anyway?? Just ban his Ip address-why post such he said/she said stuff. That's very immature. If he has the IP addresses ban him-why say "He said this about you..."

I've never heard of administrators doing that before.

TJ
01-16-2005, 06:40 PM
Yes I saw that link, also check out this one:

http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=jab195

It's interesting to note SDGirl90 registered from a baumhofer.com e-mail address just like duluthduke was... now how would you explain that one? Seems very fishy to me. What more proof would you want?

TJ
01-16-2005, 06:42 PM
Okay, I don't mean any disrespect at all, but how does that prove that Firemangus & duluthduke have the same IP address???


And why do you have such a vendatta against Duluthduke anyway?? Just ban his Ip address-why post such he said/she said stuff. That's very immature. If he has the IP addresses ban him-why say "He said this about you..."

I've never heard of administrators doing that before.

He said some very personal attacks against me - saying since I was from Marietta, GA - that I was from the white supremacist capitol of the world.

I don't know about you.. but I take internet stalkers/predators very seriously.. if he was pretending to be a 14-18 year old to talk to 13 year olds.. then I think that is a very serious issue.

TJ
01-16-2005, 06:43 PM
jam4me, you just registered today in fact.. why are you getting so involved? How well can you really know somebody on the internet? You can't see a scenario where you were completely misled by somebody?

jam4me
01-16-2005, 06:49 PM
He said some very personal attacks against me - saying since I was from Marietta, GA - that I was from the white supremacist capitol of the world.

I don't know about you.. but I take internet stalkers/predators very seriously.. if he was pretending to be a 14-18 year old to talk to 13 year olds.. then I think that is a very serious issue.


I understand that perhaps you were offended...but unless he set up a meeting with these girls it's not a crime to lie about who you are online-I'm sure many here aren't who they pretend to be.

If you seriously think a crime was commited you should be contacting the police, not attacking the poster, if you think it is such a serious issue.

Also, why aren't Ip addresses always checked if that is the case-not just when one is offended?

Again, I mean no disrespect at all, and understand what you are saying. It still doesn't explain why firemangus was not allowed to be a member.

evermore
01-16-2005, 06:50 PM
I do not know anything about SDGirl90, but I do know that Duke has had books and records sold on Ebay. He has helped me out on Ebay last year when the seller did not honor my winning bid and I had to put in a complaint.

Fireman Gus was pre-banned even before he signed up.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 06:51 PM
jam4me, you just registered today in fact.. why are you getting so involved? How well can you really know somebody on the internet? You can't see a scenario where you were completely misled by somebody?


I have no problem accepting anything. Why does it bother you if I ask questions?? Are they not allowed?

Yes, I did just registered today-I'm not trying to hide that fact!

What does that have to do with anything?

TJ
01-16-2005, 06:55 PM
Not a crime to make up false identities? He probably hasn't committed any crimes, but you are foolish to think this is not a serious issue. Believe me, if I had more information I would go to to the authorities. Are you a parent? Would you want your son and daughter to talk to an adult who was pretending to be a child?

FiremanGus may not be the same as duluthduke.. but they are both from Minnesota, and it looked like it was a setup as that name was registered minutes after I had sent an email to Tonyd.

I definitely should have checked the ips earlier and it would have been obvious. All of Tonyd's correspondence with me has led me to believe he was an older adult. He talks with the grammar that you would find in a professional writer.

rockrgurl71111
01-16-2005, 06:55 PM
I do not know anything about SDGirl90, but I do know that Duke has had books and records sold on Ebay. He has helped me out on Ebay last year when the seller did not honor my winning bid and I had to put in a complaint.

Fireman Gus was pre-banned even before he signed up.

I've seen the name before but I don't think I've talked to her or him or whatever.

rockrgurl71111
01-16-2005, 06:56 PM
Not a crime to make up false identities? He probably hasn't committed any crimes, but you are foolish to think this is not a serious issue. Believe me, if I had more information I would go to to the authorities. Are you a parent? Would you want your son and daughter to talk to an adult who was pretending to be a child?

FiremanGus may not be the same as duluthduke.. but they are both from Minnesota, and it looked like it was a setup as that name was registered minutes after I had sent an email to Tonyd.

I definitely should have checked the ips earlier and it would have been obvious. All of Tonyd's correspondence with me has led me to believe he was an older adult. He talks with the grammar that you would find in a professional writer.

That is kinda creepy.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 07:03 PM
Not a crime to make up false identities? He probably hasn't committed any crimes, but you are foolish to think this is not a serious issue. Believe me, if I had more information I would go to to the authorities. Are you a parent? Would you want your son and daughter to talk to an adult who was pretending to be a child?

FiremanGus may not be the same as duluthduke.. but they are both from Minnesota, and it looked like it was a setup as that name was registered minutes after I had sent an email to Tonyd.

I definitely should have checked the ips earlier and it would have been obvious. All of Tonyd's correspondence with me has led me to believe he was an older adult. He talks with the grammar that you would find in a professional writer.


It's not a crime to have a false identity on a board unless you are using it for crimimal activities, i.e. meeting underage children for a meeting, identity theft, etc.

To answer your question, yes, I am a parent & my children aren't allowed on the computer at home or at school unless they are under adult supervision. My children aren't allowed to go to chat rooms or message boards-it's my job to protect them & I wish more parents felt the same.

I'm not on anyone's side-I was just trying to obtain information. I knew Firemangus wasn't duluthduke & want to thank you for answering my questions.

evermore
01-16-2005, 07:03 PM
The only thing that Fireman Gus did wrong was his timing was off and that he lives in MN. He is another well respected poster on the other board. As for Duke, he said that he appreciates all of the support that everyone has shown. He thanks everyone who backed him up.

TJ
01-16-2005, 07:10 PM
There is just an overwhelming amount of evidence that duluthduke has posted on atleast 3 other names. Look at all of the other posts in this thread and draw your own conclusion. I find it very upsetting that an adult would pretend to be a teen to interact with other teens if that is indeed the case here. It just doesn't add up. I congratulate you for you monitoring your children's internet activities. I agree with you completely on that.

jam4me
01-16-2005, 07:17 PM
There is just an overwhelming amount of evidence that duluthduke has posted on atleast 3 other names. Look at all of the other posts in this thread and draw your own conclusion. I find it very upsetting that an adult would pretend to be a teen to interact with other teens if that is indeed the case here. It just doesn't add up. I congratulate you for you monitoring your children's internet activities. I agree with you completely on that.


Yes, I'm not arguing with your evidence and again I want to thank you for answering my questions. I just knew those two posters weren't the same people, so thanks for clearing that up.

rockrgurl71111
01-16-2005, 07:19 PM
TJ,
I totally agree with you. I look back and see its soo odvious! lookie:

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I agree 100%!!! If results of a trivia quiz about nothing but LITB can't be posted, what can???

To the admin or moderators: I think we deserve an answer here!

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Though I guess I must not be in the club anymore (I didn't receive the quiz) I would be interested in reading about it too!

And I agree that the members do deserve some type of response from a moderator! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!

evermore
01-16-2005, 11:15 PM
I finally heard from Fireman Gus, and he gave me permission to post his webpage. Totally different from Duke's.

evermore
01-17-2005, 01:12 AM
I have decided to remove both webpages from the message board. Duke's has been up for several hours and Fireman Gus had been posted for an hour. I hope you were able see that they are 2 different people.

miss landers
01-17-2005, 01:50 AM
I have decided to remove both webpages from the message board. Duke's has been up for several hours and Fireman Gus had been posted for an hour. I hope you were able see that they are 2 different people.

I thoroughly trust the Administrator on this one. From what I've read here, there's more than enough evidence and sufficient reason for banning these people from the board. I for one do not want to "run into" either one of them here - particularly the one masquerading as a teen in order to interact with teens. You are simply "protesting" too much; it's becoming annoying. Please stop pleading this case; let the Adminstrator do his job. Let's put closure on this issue and let's get on with the reason we are here - to discuss "Leave It to Beaver."

FiremanGus
01-17-2005, 02:05 AM
Hello to everyone at the board. I appreciate being allowed to post, thank you. I post at TVLand to discuss LITB trivia, share knowledge, etc. I also like to play the trivia game there "This-Is-A-Test!" which is a lot of fun. I would recommend it for everyone!

Just for the record, duluthduke and I are not the same person. I am from Minnesota, yes, but from the Mankato area, while duluth is from the metro area, having recently moved from Duluth. I hope those of you who have viewed my website have substantial proof that we are different people.

The reason (only reason) that I registered was to state that have posted at the TVLand boards since May, 2004, when I registered there. Duluthduke has only posted under two names: duluthduke and djduke. So there is no deception there. I also have 2 names: FiremanGus and 85158; which I explained very clearly on the board. None of us trick or deceive each other. We are only interested in discussing pertinent LITB items.

Thank you for reading,
Gus

TJ
01-17-2005, 02:09 AM
I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions on you FiremanGus. While it may be true he has only posted on only 2 names over at the TV Land boards, I think if you read through this thread thoroughly you'll see he's been very deceptive and outright lied and has posted on atleast 4 different usernames here.

The fact is the TV Land boards apparently have no ip logging system and nothing to limit people from registering more then 1 username. I don't even know if they verify e-mail addresses and whether you need one to join up over there.

miss landers
01-17-2005, 02:26 AM
Hello to everyone at the board. I appreciate being allowed to post, thank you. I post at TVLand to discuss LITB trivia, share knowledge, etc. I also like to play the trivia game there "This-Is-A-Test!" which is a lot of fun. I would recommend it for everyone!

Just for the record, duluthduke and I are not the same person. I am from Minnesota, yes, but from the Mankato area, while duluth is from the metro area, having recently moved from Duluth. I hope those of you who have viewed my website have substantial proof that we are different people.

The reason (only reason) that I registered was to state that have posted at the TVLand boards since May, 2004, when I registered there. Duluthduke has only posted under two names: duluthduke and djduke. So there is no deception there. I also have 2 names: FiremanGus and 85158; which I explained very clearly on the board. None of us trick or deceive each other. We are only interested in discussing pertinent LITB items.

Thank you for reading,
Gus

I for one do not feel comfortable with your presence here. Why are you embroiled in this issue about Tonyd, duluthduke, etc. Why do you have two names? Why is duluthduke posting under two names? And why do you bring these facts to this board? Why do you tell us "none of us trick or deceive each other"? This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Your post is very very suspect. Why do you want to be here? Why do you have such concern for someone who has been deceiving young members and posting as a teen in order to interact with teens. Why do you know duluthduke? Why do you want to know him? Everything that has transpired today has been very suspect, very uncomfortable for many of us. I'm not comfortable with your presence here. I cannot understand why - after everything that has happened today - that you want to be here. Your presence is very suspect. I hope the Adminstrator will keep a very close eye on you.

FiremanGus
01-17-2005, 02:27 AM
Thanks, at least, for that. Yes, when I registered at TVLand, the registration window does prompt you to enter your email address.

Gus

evermore
01-17-2005, 02:42 AM
Happy to see that you got here FiremanGus. :tiphat:

FiremanGus
01-17-2005, 02:46 AM
Thanks!

Gus

FiremanGus
01-17-2005, 03:04 AM
I for one do not feel comfortable with your presence here. Why are you embroiled in this issue about Tonyd, duluthduke, etc. Why do you have two names? Why is duluthduke posting under two names? And why do you bring these facts to this board? Why do you tell us "none of us trick or deceive each other"? This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Your post is very very suspect. Why do you want to be here? Why do you have such concern for someone who has been deceiving young members and posting as a teen in order to interact with teens. Why do you know duluthduke? Why do you want to know him? Everything that has transpired today has been very suspect, very uncomfortable for many of us. I'm not comfortable with your presence here. I cannot understand why - after everything that has happened today - that you want to be here. Your presence is very suspect. I hope the Adminstrator will keep a very close eye on you.

^I have not nor do I need to address these issues.^ The fact is that we (duluth and all others at TVLand Boards) have posted together since I registered in May, 2004. You are right that I don't know everything about everyone else at the boards. Though, my expereince at the TVLand Boards has been positive, and truly am a die-hard fan of LITB.

miss landers
01-17-2005, 03:32 AM
So sorry. I guess I'm a little jittery. You appear to be an associate of Tonyd, duluthduke or whatever he chooses to call himself and I guess I'm subject at the moment to looking at you in the light of "guilt by association." There's no reason for me to think that just because you are more close to duluthduke than I would care to be that you are going to pull the same tricks as he did and deceive us. There's no reason for me to think that just because you are Tonyd's or duluthduke's supporter and associate that you are going to masquerade as a teen in order to interact with the young members here. That sort of thing is reprehensible. I can hardly believe that that man was sneaking around this board deceiving young people. Our Adminstrator is to be commended in bringing that deception and disaster waiting in the wings to an end. I also understand Tonyd or duluthduke apparently referred to our Administrator as a racist or something just as unpleasant and I don't like to think that you or any other member here who has befriended or supports "the banned one" are going hurl such slanders around this board. I support our Administrators - they're are doing an excellent job and I'm glad this board will focus at last strictly on LITB! Well, I guess I've had my little say and once again and I'm sorry I let the jitters get the best of me! Tee-hee! Good luck.

Michael [hXc]
01-17-2005, 09:50 AM
well at least that's settled.

jam4me
01-17-2005, 10:53 AM
I for one do not feel comfortable with your presence here. Why are you embroiled in this issue about Tonyd, duluthduke, etc. Why do you have two names? Why is duluthduke posting under two names? And why do you bring these facts to this board? Why do you tell us "none of us trick or deceive each other"? This statement makes me very uncomfortable. Your post is very very suspect. Why do you want to be here? Why do you have such concern for someone who has been deceiving young members and posting as a teen in order to interact with teens. Why do you know duluthduke? Why do you want to know him? Everything that has transpired today has been very suspect, very uncomfortable for many of us. I'm not comfortable with your presence here. I cannot understand why - after everything that has happened today - that you want to be here. Your presence is very suspect. I hope the Adminstrator will keep a very close eye on you.


Posting under many different names...if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. Luckily, you can't do it here like at the TvLand Boards. :lol:

I support the adminstrators as well-trust them to handle the situation. Why are you so worried about FiremanGus?? Have something to hide? :eek:

Michael [hXc]
01-17-2005, 11:04 AM
Posting under many different names...if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. Luckily, you can't do it here like at the TvLand Boards. :lol:

haha she does?! :eek: then she shouldn't be talking ;)

jam4me
01-17-2005, 11:10 AM
haha she does?! :eek: then she shouldn't be talking ;)


HE!! :lol: I think that poster protests too much!! Leave it alone! :rolleyes:

FiremanGus
01-17-2005, 11:17 AM
Posting under many different names...if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. Luckily, you can't do it here like at the TvLand Boards. :lol:

I support the adminstrators as well-trust them to handle the situation. Why are you so worried about FiremanGus?? Have something to hide? :eek:

Thank you jam4me. My thoughts exactly.

Gus

jam4me
01-17-2005, 11:18 AM
Check out that poster's Wally's perfect Christmas "fanfic" on here. Would a woman post about breasts & wally's tongue being down someones throat?

Could be an older person trolling for teenagers if you ask me, I'm suprised it's allowed to remain on here, especially if children are on the board.

Doesn't seem like someone who is really worried about younger posters to me, but a hypocrite trying to divert attention from their actions-hits a little too close to home. :eek:

jam4me
01-17-2005, 11:25 AM
Thank you jam4me. My thoughts exactly.

Gus


That's quite alright, Gus.

I just think children & teens should be able to have a safe time while on the web.

Sucking up to the administrators doesn't hide the fact that a person is a hypocrite & the truth will come out, sooner or later.

I have no hidden agenda behind commending the administrators in their actions, but some do. I have nothing to hide-my IP can be traced all day but I bet others wouldn't be able to say the same. I wish ALL boards had a IP address tracer & locator-it would make the net a much safer place for everyone.

Michael [hXc]
01-17-2005, 11:32 AM
ew i read that fanfic. seems pretty hypocritical, doesn't it?

jam4me
01-17-2005, 11:37 AM
ew i read that fanfic. seems pretty hypocritical, doesn't it?


There ya go :) The truth always comes to light sooner or later.
Safe for kids to read??? I think not. Big concern for children's welfare there. :rolleyes:

Michael [hXc]
01-17-2005, 11:38 AM
There ya go :) The truth always comes to light sooner or later.
Safe for kids to read??? I think not. Big concern for children's welfare there. :rolleyes:

seems pretty two faced to me. I mean if she really cared about children's welfare she wouldn't talk about those kinds of subjects in a fanfic on a family message board. :rolleyes:

jam4me
01-17-2005, 11:58 AM
seems pretty two faced to me. I mean if she really cared about children's welfare she wouldn't talk about those kinds of subjects in a fanfic on a family message board. :rolleyes:


I totally agree. VERY HYPOCRITICAL! :mad:
I DO care about children & would never post such nonsense. Keep it clean, if you're so worried about another posting "looking for teens". Why post such nastiness? That's better suited for an ADULT site, not a family message board-my family doesn't read that type of mess. I wouldn't want my kids reading that junk.

TJ
01-17-2005, 12:03 PM
Thank you for your participation in this thread. This thread is now being locked.

The end result is that duluthduke and his 3 other names that were posted on the same ip address have been banned. He will not be returning under any aliases.

Once again, I will repeat this is a LITB board for discussing the show. A single "off-topic" thread is allowed for just general Chit Chat.

Those of you who wish to follow the rules are welcome to stay. Those of you want no rules and an unmoderated board, then this is not the place for you. If they don't say it on LITB, then don't say it here!