Who's bright idea was it to cancel Square Pegs so early? I thought it was a high rated show. When it ended there a rumor going around that most of the cast was on cocaine and the network decided just to pull the plug. Hopefully there isn't any truth to this.

I've read several different stories concerning the drug use behind the scenes. Some sources say that it was the cast on the set that were heavely into drugs where as somewhere else I read that it was the producers who had the drug problems. I think it comes down to the simple fact of ratings. The show wasn't getting the ratings that CBS thought that it should and so they decided to end the series after only one year. I think if the ratings had been higher then even if there had been drug abuse behind the scenes that the network would have looked the other way. I guess that we'll never know what the true story is.

Michael Grade pulled the plug. He was in charge at Embassy TV at the time. Controversy surrounding cocaine use at the location, which was a real school, plus the poor ratings made up his mind. My source of information is a lengthy TV Guide article published at the time.
Michael Grade is infamous in the UK for cancelling Doctor Who when he became controller of BBC One. He clearly has no problem cancelling shows with loyal fans. He is now Chairman of the BBC board of governors. The chairman, he claims, has no say in programming. (Coincidentally Doctor Who is back)

Michael Grade is evil. I figured that in the end it came down to ratings. If Square Pegs had been the number one show, I don't think that cocaine use on location would have really mattered.

According to the producer (on the DVD interview) she said that the reason for its' demise was that CBS decided to move it to a different night and it aired opposite the last half of the A-Team. She said that as soon as they did that, she knew it was pretty much dead. I guess before that, it was getting pretty good ratings.

I remember that I couldn't ever find it, which is why I hardly ever watched it. Such a shame, too. Think of all the stuff they could have done if they let the series run for four years!

Andrea

Plus at that time the whole new wave valley trend ran its course so when you have a TV show with a flavor of the month theme and characters who are the epitome of the fad of the day you are going to have a short run. Plus when you have a group of twenty somethings trying to pass off as teenagers it won't be long before becomes noticeable cough sweathogs cough.

I heard the stories of drug use on the set before. But I think maybe it was a number of factors. I think the show continued it would have been really successful.

I looooved show; it's a cult classic !

Yes I'm surprised too it only made 1 season. While it was very uneven (imo some eps were absolutely tdf and others stunk big time) it deserved a 2nd Season at least. And I just loved seeing Tracey Nelson as I'm a Nelson Family fan esp. The Adv. of Ozzie & Harriet (which is what brought me to SO in the 1st place). And imo Tracey was a BIG BIG help to the show. She was just great as the conceited queen bee valley girl Jennifer Di. Although Sarah Jessica was no slouch either.

I think Square Pegs would have done better if it would have been on NBC, especially if it would have been bundled with Family Ties and The Facts of Life. CBS wasn't exactly know for its hipness back then.

I think Square Pegs would have done better if it would have been on NBC, especially if it would have been bundled with Family Ties and The Facts of Life. CBS wasn't exactly know for its hipness back then.
I agree. I also wish they hadn't added the laugh track in the later episodes. It seemed funnier without them.

I agree. I also wish they hadn't added the laugh track in the later episodes. It seemed funnier without them.
Facts-Square Pegs-Family Ties would have been an awesome combo.

I think it was too early for it's time. It's rare for a one year wonder to become a cult classic, well known show.

I've read several different stories concerning the drug use behind the scenes. Some sources say that it was the cast on the set that were heavely into drugs where as somewhere else I read that it was the producers who had the drug problems. I think it comes down to the simple fact of ratings. The show wasn't getting the ratings (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083482/board/thread/125506234) that CBS thought that it should and so they decided to end the series after only one year. I think if the ratings had been higher then even if there had been drug abuse behind the scenes that the network would have looked the other way. I guess that we'll never know what the true story is.

Drug use on set? (https://moviechat.org/tt0083482/Square-Pegs/58c73d336b51e905f66c5aa6/Drug-use-on-set)

Low ratings probably killed "Square Pegs" after its lone season on CBS in 1983...a pity, because I would've wanted to see Patty, Lauren, and the rest of the gang graduate from Weemawee in the summer of '86.

I think if the ratings hold up, they simply move to a soundstage where they have more control over the actors/producers.

I think Square Pegs would have done better if it would have been on NBC, especially if it would have been bundled with Family Ties and The Facts of Life. CBS wasn't exactly know for its hipness back then.

Are there any other decidedly "young-skewing" sitcoms that CBS (which was often looked down upon as the "senior citizen's network") had during the '80s? The only one that I can immediately think of is the short-lived 1986 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985%E2%80%9386_United_States_network_television_schedule) TV adaptation of Fast Times at Ridgemont High (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Times).

I think it was too early for it's time. It's rare for a one year wonder to become a cult classic, well known show.
Agreed!

I think Square Pegs would have done better if it would have been on NBC, especially if it would have been bundled with Family Ties and The Facts of Life. CBS wasn't exactly know for its hipness back then.

I totally agree, gidgetgrape. "Square Pegs" might've succeeded had it aired on NBC, especially with the late Brandon Tartikoff as head of the "Peacock Network"; Tartikoff would've scheduled it alongside NBC's youth-oriented sitcoms "The Facts Of Life," "Diff'rent Strokes," or "Silver Spoons." Looking back in retrospect, CBS was the wrong network to air "Square Pegs," given its reputation as the "old folks" network.

Are there any other decidedly "young-skewing" sitcoms that CBS (which was often looked down upon as the "senior citizen's network") had during the '80s? The only one that I can immediately think of is the short-lived 1986 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985%E2%80%9386_United_States_network_television_schedule) TV adaptation of Fast Times at Ridgemont High (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Times).

"Charles In Charge" and "Dreams" immediately come to mind, TMC...both sitcoms debuted in the autumn of 1984 on CBS, airing on Wednesday nights. They were both hopelessly slaughtered by ABC's hit action/adventure series "The Fall Guy" and NBC's new spiritual drama "Highway To Heaven" in the same timeslot (8-9 pm).

"Charles In Charge" did, of course, return in early 1987 as a first-run syndicated series (lasting until 1990), while the MTV-influenced "Dreams"--starring a pre-"Full House" John Stamos--faded into television oblivion after five telecasts in October of '84 (seven additional episodes remain unaired).

I can see why kids at the time would have loved it, and it was well cast and acted and pretty well written and captured the feel of being a kid at the time. However, I can see why it did not make it on network TV at the time, its appeal would be to a narrow audience and would be tough for it to get the ratings it needed.

I've read several different stories concerning the drug use behind the scenes. Some sources say that it was the cast on the set that were heavely into drugs where as somewhere else I read that it was the producers who had the drug problems. I think it comes down to the simple fact of ratings. The show wasn't getting the ratings that CBS thought that it should and so they decided to end the series after only one year. I think if the ratings had been higher then even if there had been drug abuse behind the scenes that the network would have looked the other way. I guess that we'll never know what the true story is.

How Behind-the-Scenes Chaos Derailed SQUARE PEGS' New-Wave Promise (http://www.avclub.com/article/behind-scenes-chaos-derailed-square-pegs-new-wave--213886)

When the popularity of Saturday Night Live took off in the late 1970s, it was the biggest thing to hit television comedy in years. In an attempt to harness some of that crazy energy to revitalize flagging primetime lineups, broadcast networks poached SNL writers and performers and gave them carte blanche. In 1982, that included 34-year-old SNL writer Anne Beatts. One of the only women on the SNL staff, Beatts created a new situation comedy for CBS: Square Pegs.

The show appeared promising at first. Produced by Norman Lear’s Embassy Television, Square Pegs was billed as a show “about the problems, joys, and experiences of being young and in high school” (Beatts based the series on her own adolescence). Unlike previous high school shows like Happy Days, which was nearing the end of its run at the time (and featured adults in the adolescent roles), Square Pegs not only spotlighted actual teens, but different peer groups that resembled actual ’80s cliques: valley girls, nerds, preppies, class clowns, and new-wavers. The young cast was populated by promising newcomers: Sarah Jessica Parker played one of the leads, bespectacled nerd Patty Greene; Jami Gertz was preppy school leader Muffy Tepperman; and Tracy Nelson, (daughter of Ricky, granddaughter of Ozzie and Harriet, sister of hair-metal twins Gunnar and Matthew) was Jennifer DeNuccio, popular mean girl.

The show received decent reviews right out of the gate, and was dubbed a “thinking kids’ sitcom.” In New York magazine, James Wolcott opined, “Watching Patty and Lauren navigate the slopes of puberty should be more entertaining than almost anything else scooting our way this season.” The series premiere won its Monday-at-8 timeslot—a ratings victory that was a first and last for Square Pegs. Adding to the show’s uphill battle: It aired the same night as CBS juggernaut M*A*S*H (in its final season) and eventual powerhouse Newhart (in its first), which had significantly older audiences than the fledgling sitcom. Never again replicating those strong debut numbers, Square Pegs was over after 20 episodes.

Which is too bad, because Square Pegs had a special kind of new-wave potential. Most episodes involve Patty and her best friend Lauren Hutchinson (Amy Linker) trying to crack the popular clique at fictional Weemawee High School, which was akin to the castaways getting off of Gilligan’s Island: If that happened, the show would be over. The two main characters remain unflappable in the face of almost constant cruelty from the popular crowd: Jennifer’s best friend LaDonna Fredericks (Claudette Wells) calls them “that fat girl and that fat girl’s friend.” Muffy refers to them as the “gruesome twosome” or “Stringbean” and “Fang.” Flying in the face of these rejections, Parker effortlessly fires off one-liners that foreshadow the wisecracking of Carrie Bradshaw. When Lauren gets to marry a hunk in a fake-marriage class assignment, for example, she says: “Great, you get to marry Vinnie Pasetta, and I get to learn life can be cruel. I could have learned that in gym.” (The gum-chewing Nelson also brought a breathless ennui to lines like, “Ugh, I’d rather go coat-shopping with my mother.”) Patty and Lauren’s fellow misfits were standup comic wannabe Marshall Blechtman (John Femia) and perhaps the most memorable character of all, Johnny “Slash” Ulasewicz (Merritt Butrick), who was quick to point out the vital differences between “punk” and “new wave.”

Beatts was young and savvy enough to know what her intended audience was enjoying and listening to. Decade-appropriate pop-culture references abound in the dialogue, from Kristy McNichol to the Eagles; one episode involves Marshall getting addicted to Pac-Man. Witty running gags include Muffy’s efforts for the class to send random gifts, like culottes, to Rosarita, the Weemawee High-sponsored Guatemalan child. The Waitresses appear in the pilot, and sing the Square Pegs theme song.

Most Square Pegs half-hours offered entertaining interplay between the high school social structure, like Patty getting cast in a school play opposite Jennifer’s boyfriend or Marshall creating a love-meter to test the various affection levels of the class. The (mostly) inventive and relatable storylines also offered ample opportunity for zingy dialogue by Beatts and her writing staff. Thanks to her SNL connections, the creator brought in guest stars like Bill Murray (fresh off of Stripes and Tootsie, playing a rebellious substitute teacher) and Don Novello (as his most famous creation, Father Guido Sarducci, who helps Marshall break his video game habit). She even drafted Devo to play at Muffy’s bat mitzvah.

A vibrant cast, a talented writer at the helm, cool guest stars and musical acts: And yet, a year after Square Pegs’ May 1983 cancellation, TV Guide ran a story on the show titled “Anatomy Of A Failure: How Drugs, Ego, And Chaos Helped Kill A Promising Series.” Based on a six-month investigation, the article explored the specific reasons for the once-promising show’s quick demise. Part of the problem, according to the article, involved putting the inexperienced Beatts in charge of the entire production. Youthful and hip, she was also volatile, making friends with some cast and crew members and alienating others. Even she admitted, “I snapped people’s heads off. But I usually regretted it afterwards.”

Lear’s company tried to rein her in, but Embassy president Michael Grade complained, “I could see the show going down the drain right before my eyes.” Grade and Beatts each insisted that the other was to blame for the show’s short lifespan. The writing staff had no sense of continuity: Some episodes depicted Vinnie as a thug, others as a buffoon. And the painful laugh track, which appeared to be inserted after every single sentence, certainly didn’t help. (Although that was fairly standard at the time.)

The TV Guide article is full of show writers and cast members with comments about the series, but very few who agreed to go on the record. One writer described: “Some of the scripts looked like five drunk monkeys had written them and then thrown the pages up in the air.”

The series hit its low point with its two-part Christmas episode, in which Patty has to go ice fishing with her dad (portrayed by another player from sitcom history, Leave It To Beaver’s Tony Dow) instead of staying at home with her new freshmen friends. Beatts fought to have the episode extended into a two-parter, but she didn’t have an hour-long script. She hurriedly pulled something together and, one (unnamed) writer reported: “The first draft of that show was just the most terrible thing I have ever seen. It made no sense at all. And Anne was laughing. She thought it made sense. It made no sense.”

The Christmas episodes are bizarrely paced, as the actors seem to be dragging out their lines and scenes to fill the hour. Almost half the first episode is spent on a pointless scene in which a classroom is decorated, with random conversations between disparate characters like Patty and Vinnie, and Jennifer and Johnny “Slash.” Then even that slight momentum is squashed by Patty’s painful trip with her dad, which includes an endless in-car conversation. That unnamed writer from the TV Guide article could not have been more right; the episode undoubtedly sets the record for the number of repeated instances of the phrase “frozen eel chunks” (four). The Devo episode is downright Shakespearean in comparison.

Square Pegs definitely had ego and chaos, but there was possibly another factor fueling the show’s demise. The ’80s was a decade notorious for bloated excesses, and in the TV Guide article, Beatts comes right out and states, “I think that certainly, there was some drug abuse or drug traffic that may have happened, because I would say that that is norm for a set.” Even the relatively square TV Guide gets it: “[P]eople were using.” An anonymous cast member told the reporters, “Yeah, there were drugs… The thing that made it very dangerous and stupid in our case was that there were minors on the set.” In 2009, Devo’s Gerald Casale told Heeb magazine that he remembers the Square Pegs cast as, “out of control—they were doing drugs and they were making out and they were coming on to us in a big way… They might have been 15 or 16, but in their heads they were already 40. I don’t think there was a virgin on the set, except maybe a couple of the guys.”

Most Square Pegs scenes were shot in the abandoned Excelsior High School in suburban Norwalk, California, about 20 miles outside of Los Angeles, so it was difficult for CBS or Lear’s production company to know what was going on during shooting. Embassy received “recurring reports of and rumors of drug and alcohol use on a set where minors worked.” By the time Grade finally asked for an internal investigation in March 1983, Square Pegs had already finished shooting, and the final plug on the troubled show had been pulled.

It was a dark ending for a series that began with so much momentum. Many of Square Pegs’ stars followed that momentum to better gigs, Parker most successfully. Gertz appeared in ’80s youth movies like Less Than Zero and The Lost Boys before finding a home on such sitcoms as Still Standing and The Neighbors. You can spot Nelson on episodes of Melrose Place and Seinfeld; she also starred as the sidekick in Tom Bosley’s Happy Days follow-up, the Father Dowling Mysteries. Merritt Butrick appeared as the son of James T. Kirk in two Star Trek movies before dying of toxoplasmosis, complicated by AIDS, in 1989. Beatts went on to work as a producer on A Different World in the ’80s and The Stephanie Miller Show in the ’90s, as well as writing an episode of Murphy Brown and the unsold pilot The Belles Of Bleeker Street.

One of the sweetest interviews on the 2008 Square Pegs DVD release is with Nelson and Wells, who remained close friends after the show’s demise; they describe Nelson’s Jennifer DeNuccio wig as a “squirrel on her head.” They also explain how most of the cast (except for Parker, who had been on Broadway) were absolute novices receiving their big break, and they remain grateful to Beatts for giving so many unknowns a shot. (The DVD also features a touching tribute to Butrick by Beatts and the cast.) The Square Pegs cast and crew (unsurprisingly) don’t mention any of the allegations in the TV Guide article, just regrets that the show ended as soon as it did.

Because by the end of its only season, Square Pegs was finally beginning to gel. Scripts became less scattered; the cast seemed more comfortable with each other and played off each other more successfully. In the last episode, “The Arrangement,” Patty and Lauren again scheme to get an invite to one of Jennifer’s parties, throwing Johnny and Marshall under the bus in the process. Of course the plan goes awry, and in the end, the gruesome foursome just have each other, hanging out and watching a TV special starring magician Doug Henning. Then the band from Jennifer’s bash, friends of Johnny “Slash,” comes over to hang out, and the misfits get their own cool party after all. It was a fine final curtain for the show.

For kids of the ’80s who didn’t fit into any sort of clique, for the type of teen who would turn to My So-Called Life or Freaks And Geeks in later years, Square Pegs offered reassurance that high-school angst was real and temporary. It told the Pattys and Laurens at home that music could be better than what they heard on the radio, and that nonconformity was something to celebrate, as the theme song underlined: “One size does not fit all.” Square Pegs’ tarnished legacy leaves behind a show of unfulfilled promise.

Low ratings probably killed "Square Pegs" after its lone season on CBS in 1983...a pity, because I would've wanted to see Patty, Lauren, and the rest of the gang graduate from Weemawee in the summer of '86.

Was Square Pegs (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031145823/http://www.jumptheshark.com/s/squarepegs.htm) hurt by the timeslot (https://bloodypopcorn.com/2016/10/22/square-pegs-spend-a-little-halloween-xii-in-weemawee/#comment-2095) that it was placed in? More specifically, CBS (https://www.cinemablend.com/television/10-Shows-CBS-Should-Embarrassed-About-Canceling-99447.html) placed Square Pegs (https://www.vulture.com/article/anne-beatts-square-pegs-appreciation-cancellation.html) in-between (https://www.ocregister.com/2014/10/20/tv-rewind-square-pegs-couldnt-fit-in-prime-time/) two decidedly older skewing shows in MASH and Newhart.

"Charles In Charge" and "Dreams" immediately come to mind, TMC...both sitcoms debuted in the autumn of 1984 on CBS, airing on Wednesday nights. They were both hopelessly slaughtered by ABC's hit action/adventure series "The Fall Guy" and NBC's new spiritual drama "Highway To Heaven" in the same timeslot (8-9 pm).

"Charles In Charge" did, of course, return in early 1987 as a first-run syndicated series (lasting until 1990), while the MTV-influenced "Dreams"--starring a pre-"Full House" John Stamos--faded into television oblivion after five telecasts in October of '84 (seven additional episodes remain unaired).

CBS in 1989, aired a pilot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_in_Babysitting#Unsold_television_pilot) for a sitcom based on the movie Adventures in Babysitting. It featured Jennifer Guthrie (who incidentally, would later show up on Parker Lewis Can't Lose, with Maia Brewton, who was in the original Adventures in Babysitting movie) as Elisabeth Shue's character from the movie. It also featured a post-Gimme a Break!/pre-Blossom Joey Lawrence and a pre-Beverly Hills, 90210 Brian Austin Green.

Another uniquely teen/youth oriented show that CBS aired in the '80s was What's Alan Watching? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Alan_Watching%3F) Like Adventures in Babysitting, it didn't get past the pilot (https://www.vulture.com/2018/08/wyatt-cenac-on-the-1989-cbs-pilot-whats-alan-watching.html) and starred (https://uproxx.com/sepinwall/whats-alan-watching-why-the-whats-alan-watching-pilot-of-course/) a future cast member of Parker Lewis Can't Lose. In this case, Corin Nemc as the titular Alan as well as a pre-The Nanny Fran Drescher as his sister. The pilot (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-02-27-ca-303-story.html) was produced (https://buffalonews.com/news/whats-alan-watching-definitely-this-funny-show/article_cd0049d5-932c-56e8-8ad4-faf47102770a.html) by Eddie Murphy.

I don't know for sure if it was aired or not, but also in 1989, CBS did a pilot for a show (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2933136/) called High (https://www.etonline.com/tv/131486_Zach_Braff_Talks_Craig_Ferguson_Gwyneth_Paltrow_Pilot_on_Late_Late_Show), which featured Gwyneth Paltrow (http://yahoo.com/entertainment/news/gwyneth-paltrows-forgotten-pilot-184300109.html), Zach Braff, Craig Ferguson (https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/19wy21/zach_braff_craig_ferguson_and_gwyneth_paltrow_all/), and Dana Barron (the original Audrey Griswold from National Lampoon's Vacation).

I think Square Pegs would have done better if it would have been on NBC, especially if it would have been bundled with Family Ties and The Facts of Life. CBS wasn't exactly know for its hipness back then.

Incidentally, after Square Pegs was cancelled Andy Borowitz, who was a staff writer on the show as well as Jami Gertz (https://www.heraldweekly.com/53-over-hyped-actors-who-were-supposed-to-be-the-next-big-thing-but-werent-part2/17/?xcmg=1), were shipped over to The Facts of Life, which was also an Embassy produced show. Jami if I'm not mistaken, may have played similar, but not exactly the same character on The Facts of Life (Boots St. Clair (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-72699.html)) that she did on Square Pegs.

I'm going to bring up a room elephant that no one among its fans seemed to acknowledge. While the premise of nerdy outsiders wanting to join the popular crowd in of itself was appealing, alas the fact that said outsiders almost immediately LOATHED every single member of the 'popular crowd' but STILL felt entitled to join it was rather annoying. I mean, it would have been one thing had the girls started out liking the clique but, over the course of the series, had gradually gotten disillusioned with them and ultimately decided that they had a good friendship AND had befriended two outsider guys so they couldn't have cared less about said clique's existence, viewers could have stayed sympathetic to them. However, by them believing they were ENTITLED to be part of this clique and took umbrage at virtually every remark the members of the clique made and constantly put them down to each other, this made them seem like hypocrites and backbiters rather than sympathetic outsider nerds. And even the dimmest bulbs within the clique would have gotten nonverbal vibes that these two loathed them so WHY would anyone want folks who despised them to be part of one's clique?

Yes, it had some catchy 80's music but, this viewer wound up actually sympathizing with the clique members who were constantly dissed by the nerds instead of the hypocritical, entitled nerds so THAT may be why the ratings dropped and it got cancelled- instead of some conspiracy the late Miss Beatts seems to have concocted that blamed the network instead of the show's writers and producers for making their supposed heroic protagonists rather unlikable.

I'm going to bring up a room elephant that no one among its fans seemed to acknowledge. While the premise of nerdy outsiders wanting to join the popular crowd in of itself was appealing, alas the fact that said outsiders almost immediately LOATHED every single member of the 'popular crowd' but STILL felt entitled to join it was rather annoying. I mean, it would have been one thing had the girls started out liking the clique but, over the course of the series, had gradually gotten disillusioned with them and ultimately decided that they had a good friendship AND had befriended two outsider guys so they couldn't have cared less about said clique's existence, viewers could have stayed sympathetic to them. However, by them believing they were ENTITLED to be part of this clique and took umbrage at virtually every remark the members of the clique made and constantly put them down to each other, this made them seem like hypocrites and backbiters rather than sympathetic outsider nerds. And even the dimmest bulbs within the clique would have gotten nonverbal vibes that these two loathed them so WHY would anyone want folks who despised them to be part of one's clique?

Yes, it had some catchy 80's music but, this viewer wound up actually sympathizing with the clique members who were constantly dissed by the nerds instead of the hypocritical, entitled nerds so THAT may be why the ratings dropped and it got cancelled- instead of some conspiracy the late Miss Beatts seems to have concocted that blamed the network instead of the show's writers and producers for making their supposed heroic protagonists rather unlikable.

One comment (https://www.datalounge.com/thread/14931658-how-behind-the-scenes-chaos-derailed-square-pegs-new-wave-promise) that I came across suggested that The Facts of Life (https://web.archive.org/web/20140330010016/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/2625067-the-facts-of-life/?view=getnewpost) (another Embassy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELP_Communications) produced show from the same time period) was more realistically written. On Square Pegs (https://web.archive.org/web/20140407133828/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/3155578-square-pegs-id-like-it-if-they-liked-us-but-i-dont-think-they-like-us/?view=getnewpost), every situation felt absolutely contrived in that the worst two students in the the class wound up interacting with the two most popular constantly? Then again, who says that a comedy set in high school has to be 'realistic' to be good (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031125314/http://www.jumptheshark.com/s/squarepegs.htm)?

One comment (https://www.datalounge.com/thread/14931658-how-behind-the-scenes-chaos-derailed-square-pegs-new-wave-promise) that I came across suggested that The Facts of Life (https://web.archive.org/web/20140330010016/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/2625067-the-facts-of-life/?view=getnewpost) (another Embassy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELP_Communications) produced show from the same time period) was more realistically written. On Square Pegs (https://web.archive.org/web/20140407133828/http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/topic/3155578-square-pegs-id-like-it-if-they-liked-us-but-i-dont-think-they-like-us/?view=getnewpost), every situation felt absolutely contrived in that the worst two students in the the class wound up interacting with the two most popular constantly? Then again, who says that comedy set in high school has to be 'realistic' to be good (https://web.archive.org/web/20061031125314/http://www.jumptheshark.com/s/squarepegs.htm)?

True! However, IMO, 'Square Pegs' had the potential to be but was NOT 'good' for the reason I detailed in my post (the protagonists were backbiting, entitled hypocrites).

I've read several different stories concerning the drug use behind the scenes. Some sources say that it was the cast on the set that were heavely into drugs where as somewhere else I read that it was the producers who had the drug problems. I think it comes down to the simple fact of ratings. The show wasn't getting the ratings that CBS thought that it should and so they decided to end the series after only one year. I think if the ratings had been higher then even if there had been drug abuse behind the scenes that the network would have looked the other way. I guess that we'll never know what the true story is.

A similar thing may or may not have happened some three decades later with Victorious on Nickelodeon. Back in March 2014 (http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2014/MARCH.html), a "blind item" (https://goo.gl/XTjiQk) emerged that flat out suggested that Nickelodeon pulled the plug on Victorious despite it still being popular and ending without a formal finale, because they didn't want a huge scandal to come out. Like what apparently went on behind the scenes of Square Pegs, there was also allegedly a lot of drug abuse that went on during the making of Victorious.

CBS presumably, also didn't want a major scandal if it came out to the public that there was excessive drug use on the set of a teen-oriented show. Keep in mind that this was around the beginning of the Reagan Administration's "Just Say No" anti-drug campaign. And to CBS, the increasingly erratic quality of the scripts was a further sign the use of drugs on the set had gone beyond what was considered tolerable in the TV industry during the '80s and that people were starting to notice.

Is it within reason to assume that the drug use was primarily an issue for the writers/producers, which caused scripts to constantly be late (thereby cutting time for review and rewrite) and caused other production delays? A number of people on the production side came from the original SNL team. And Anne Beatts in James Andrew Miller and Tom Shales' book (https://books.google.com/books?id=3Qx0AwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Live+from+New+York:+An+Oral+History+of+Saturday+Night+Live&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiooc7s5_n1AhX1SjABHSc5Ak0Q6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=Anne%20Beatts&f=false) talked about the rampant drug use amongst that staff, so perhaps it continued onto Square Pegs as well.

It was ahead of its' time.

I've read several different stories concerning the drug use behind the scenes. Some sources say that it was the cast on the set that were heavely into drugs where as somewhere else I read that it was the producers who had the drug problems. I think it comes down to the simple fact of ratings. The show wasn't getting the ratings that CBS thought that it should and so they decided to end the series after only one year. I think if the ratings had been higher then even if there had been drug abuse behind the scenes that the network would have looked the other way. I guess that we'll never know what the true story is.

Sarah Jessica Parker claims (https://www.avclub.com/sarah-jessica-parker-on-footloose-sex-and-the-city-an-1830427525) that she wasn't privy to what was allegedly going on behind the scenes of Square Pegs until well after the fact. So it's really hard to tell if it was a cast thing or a production staff thing if not a mixture of both.

Michael Grade is evil. I figured that in the end it came down to ratings. If Square Pegs had been the number one show, I don't think that cocaine use on location would have really mattered.

Anne Beatts herself wrote (https://www.vulture.com/article/anne-beatts-square-pegs-appreciation-cancellation.html) to New York Magazine to explain the show's cancellation, and says it was all about ratings:

The highest audience share Square Pegs (http://www.tvtango.com/series/square_pegs) ever received was a 24, which now would make you the queen of Hollywood, but was considered inadequate for CBS, then the leading “Tiffany network.” In ratings competition Pegs was facing Little House on the Prairie and Monday Night Football, both certified ratings-grabbers. When Harvey Shepherd, a top CBS executive who had always had a fondness for Square Pegs, decided to “save the show” by moving it to 8:30 p.m. on Wednesdays, with a “wonderful new show” as lead-in called Zorro and Son, NBC promptly counter-programmed by moving its hit The A-Team to 8 p.m. opposite both shows. Such were the days before DVR and streaming.

Sarah Jessica Parker claims (https://www.avclub.com/sarah-jessica-parker-on-footloose-sex-and-the-city-an-1830427525) that she wasn't privy to what was allegedly going on behind the scenes of Square Pegs until well after the fact. So it's really hard to tell if it was a cast thing or a production staff thing if not a mixture of both.

It would've been highly doubtful that Sarah Jessica Parker or Amy Linker were going to party anywhere or nearly as hard given that they were still in high school and had parental supervision. Thus, their parents if they had any common sense, wouldn't let them.

It was ahead of its' time.

Others who have seen it (https://www.google.com/search?q=reddit+%22Square+Pegs%22+site:www.reddit.com&sxsrf=AB5stBhqNIEiqaDNYSlev9POoWw6GN_RSw:1688287642321&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_0svJ0e__AhWCfjABHdv4ARsQrQIoBHoECBIQBQ#ip=1) have said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPnhxxwP3-Q&lc=UgwZWiIKw89OfoGexhB4AaABAg) that Square Pegs (https://www.google.com/search?q=datalounge+%22Square+Pegs%22+site:www.datalounge.com&sxsrf=AB5stBiS524cGXVr7o7MArBWonq3arkffg:1688287598502&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi8ktm00e__AhVbRDABHZVUDaMQrQIoBHoECBIQBQ) was never a "laugh out loud" show but more of a "quiet humor" show. And with SNL writers, the dialogue was not your typical teenage banter, and probably went over (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPnhxxwP3-Q&lc=UgzP4f9JYf2BrgNtojR4AaABAg) the target audience’s head.

I'm going to bring up a room elephant that no one among its fans seemed to acknowledge. While the premise of nerdy outsiders wanting to join the popular crowd in of itself was appealing, alas the fact that said outsiders almost immediately LOATHED every single member of the 'popular crowd' but STILL felt entitled to join it was rather annoying. I mean, it would have been one thing had the girls started out liking the clique but, over the course of the series, had gradually gotten disillusioned with them and ultimately decided that they had a good friendship AND had befriended two outsider guys so they couldn't have cared less about said clique's existence, viewers could have stayed sympathetic to them. However, by them believing they were ENTITLED to be part of this clique and took umbrage at virtually every remark the members of the clique made and constantly put them down to each other, this made them seem like hypocrites and backbiters rather than sympathetic outsider nerds. And even the dimmest bulbs within the clique would have gotten nonverbal vibes that these two loathed them so WHY would anyone want folks who despised them to be part of one's clique?

Yes, it had some catchy 80's music but, this viewer wound up actually sympathizing with the clique members who were constantly dissed by the nerds instead of the hypocritical, entitled nerds so THAT may be why the ratings dropped and it got cancelled- instead of some conspiracy the late Miss Beatts seems to have concocted that blamed the network instead of the show's writers and producers for making their supposed heroic protagonists rather unlikable.

I was just thinking, could a show like Square Pegs make it on the air today (https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showpost.php?p=6175817&postcount=2) and be accepted as the cult classic that it is? What I mean by this is that, maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems like teenage narratives have changed and evolved a great deal in the 40 some odd years now since Square Pegs arrived.

Basically, do movies or TV shows centered on teenagers and high school still unironically focus on the importance of "cliques" and wanting to be popular above all else? The movie Mean Girls (https://www.reddit.com/r/nirvanakilledmycareer/comments/xr1hk1/mean_girls_2004_killed_the_teen_movie/) arguably deconstructed (https://www.cbr.com/best-movies-that-deconstruct-their-genres/) the typical tropes and clichés of teen narratives to such an effective degree, that it just seems really hard to accept such storytelling at face value anymore.

As others have said, it just seems like a weird Hollywood invention to have such specific, subculture driven friend groups or cliques. While they do exist in real life, it was never as structured and well-defined as Hollywood liked to portray it. And going back to Mean Girls, it did have really rigid cliques in the movie, but it was practically played as a joke. And by the end, the idea all the cliques was called into question and ultimately abolished.

I really don't know if that was the end goal for Square Pegs had it been able to continue beyond that single season.