View Full Version : Microsoft's new anti-spyware software


James"Thunder"Early
01-08-2005, 02:12 AM
Has anyone tried it? it's great so far it has detected tons of stuff ad-aware didn't. check it out here http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
I recommend it to everybody

Hollow
01-08-2005, 05:06 AM
I HOPE NO ONE USES IT AND BILL GATES RETIRES HIS ****IN COMPUTER JOB

dawsongirl
01-08-2005, 05:52 AM
Ad-Aware can take a flying leap. No updates unless you pay for the upgrade. Screw that. I downloaded yahoo's and it works just fine.

SBTB Geek
01-08-2005, 02:20 PM
Ad-Aware can take a flying leap. No updates unless you pay for the upgrade. Screw that. I downloaded yahoo's and it works just fine.

You guys should also try AVG, it is great.

MandieR1980
01-08-2005, 02:28 PM
Thanks it worked great

Stormtracker TF
01-08-2005, 02:34 PM
From what I've seen, it works great. I did a scan, and it found many regkeys and files that Spybot didnt, and it got them all. I also like the tracks eraser.

:thumbsup:

Chelsea
01-08-2005, 03:02 PM
Microsoft's products, between Internet Explorer and the Windows OS itself, which BOTH have more security holes than swiss cheese, is how virtually all spyware exists. You don't see any spyware on Mac or Linux computers, do you?

Heck, the only time you see the stuff on people's computers that run Firefox/Netscape/Opera/et al is when they download a program that has spyware bundled...and THEN in order to deliver popups, what browser does it manipulate? IE.

There is no way on this EARTH I would EVER trust ANY Microsoft software to handle security issues. No.

Chelsea
01-08-2005, 04:35 PM
Well you guys, I'm eating crow right now.

I'm a longtime proponent of giving software a fair shake before I completely level it. So, I ran the program. Found two threats (as opposed to none with the rest). One was my old Kazaa Lite installation (ignored). The other was actually an internet WORM, Korgo. (Specifically, the registry keys that worm leaves)

I've got to give Microsoft credit on this one - their product works, and works really well. I STILL stand by my comment, however, that if Microsoft would fix their damn products, we wouldn't NEED Anti-Spyware or Anti-Virus utilities.

Brian
01-08-2005, 05:15 PM
I have Spy Sweeper and it's done wonders for me. Would it still be a good idea to download this beta?

Chelsea
01-08-2005, 05:23 PM
I have Spy Sweeper and it's done wonders for me. Would it still be a good idea to download this beta?

Yup

spunkygirl
01-08-2005, 09:15 PM
Ad-Aware can take a flying leap. No updates unless you pay for the upgrade. Screw that. I downloaded yahoo's and it works just fine.

:confused: I update mine all the time. I like the Ad Aware SE Personal better :)

Penny Lane
01-08-2005, 09:39 PM
I use Mozilla Firefox browser and Avast anti-virus and I am doing just fine! :D

dawsongirl
01-08-2005, 11:52 PM
You guys should also try AVG, it is great.

I have that on my laptop. :thumbsup:

dawsongirl
01-08-2005, 11:53 PM
:confused: I update mine all the time. I like the Ad Aware SE Personal better :)

It told me I couldn't get the free upgrade to SE. *shrugs*

dawsongirl
01-09-2005, 12:02 AM
ME frustrates me. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/icons/icon8.gif

Chelsea
01-09-2005, 12:12 AM
ME frustrates me. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/icons/icon8.gif

Wait a second...are you running Windows ME?!?

dawsongirl
01-09-2005, 12:18 AM
Wait a second...are you running Windows ME?!?

Yes...the piece of crap. And this stupid computer is only 2 years old. :(

robyrob
01-09-2005, 12:45 AM
It told me I couldn't get the free upgrade to SE. *shrugs*
its free for download:

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

and the Giant, er Microsoft Anti-Spyware is for Windows 2000, XP, or 2003 Server only

...so no go for ME or 98 :( (unless you pay for the premium version of the Giant software)

spunkygirl
01-09-2005, 12:50 AM
its free for download:

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

and the Giant, er Microsoft Anti-Spyware is for Windows 2000, XP, or 2003 Server only

...so no go for ME or 98 :( (unless you pay for the premium version of the Giant software)

:cuss: I feel discriminated against, I can't use with my Windows 98 :mad:

robyrob
01-09-2005, 12:59 AM
Has anyone tried it? it's great so far it has detected tons of stuff ad-aware didn't. check it out here http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
I recommend it to everybody
I've known about it for awhile, but I haven't had much time to mess with it.

It can't hurt to try it out, but I think that this is mostly a move by MS to try change their image security-wise; they've been taking such a beating over holes for awhile now...

What concerns me is the validity of threats that it finds that none of the other programs can find - are they only there to make it look better, or is it actually finding something the others are missing? Most of the anti-spyware programs put in false definitions so that they can tell when someone else is stealing their code or definitions, but these are harmless. Ad-Aware and Spybot are so popular now that spyware producers are specifically targeting those programs, trying to disable or "break" them, thus getting by detection and removal, so it IS possible that a less popular program will find things that the others miss.

Stormtracker TF
01-09-2005, 01:06 AM
I've known about it for awhile, but I haven't had much time to mess with it.

It can't hurt to try it out, but I think that this is mostly a move by MS to try change their image security-wise; they've been taking such a beating over holes for awhile now...

What concerns me is the validity of threats that it finds that none of the other programs can find - are they only there to make it look better, or is it actually finding something the others are missing? Most of the anti-spyware programs put in false definitions so that they can tell when someone else is stealing their code or definitions, but these are harmless. Ad-Aware and Spybot are so popular now that spyware producers are specifically targeting those programs, trying to disable or "break" them, thus getting by detection and removal, so it IS possible that a less popular program will find things that the others miss.

Well, with me atleast, it found the EXACT threats that Spybot did. The difference was that it found registry keys and orphaned files that Spybot didnt, which were associated with the spyware threats I had had in the past.

Chelsea
01-09-2005, 01:11 AM
I've known about it for awhile, but I haven't had much time to mess with it.

It can't hurt to try it out, but I think that this is mostly a move by MS to try change their image security-wise; they've been taking such a beating over holes for awhile now...

What concerns me is the validity of threats that it finds that none of the other programs can find - are they only there to make it look better, or is it actually finding something the others are missing? Most of the anti-spyware programs put in false definitions so that they can tell when someone else is stealing their code or definitions, but these are harmless. Ad-Aware and Spybot are so popular now that spyware producers are specifically targeting those programs, trying to disable or "break" them, thus getting by detection and removal, so it IS possible that a less popular program will find things that the others miss.


Well, let's examine what I found:
Korgo (Worm). 1 Registry Key in HKLM\Software\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run Cryptographic Service

KaZaA (Adware Bundler)
(Rolls off List of HKCU Registry Keys of my old Kazaa Lite installation from a year ago that hasn't even been touched in sixth months)

The second entry seems somewhat legit...though it could, feasibly, be possible that MS is attempting to get you to delete registry keys that would disable your P2P app - or it could be that it's trying to take out keys similar to those of Kazaa since it IS one of the top distributors of non-IE based Spyware. - If either is true, it'd make sense they'd go for Kazaa, as it seems to be the top of the class when it comes to P2P use AND Distribution of Spyware

Chelsea
01-09-2005, 01:14 AM
At the end of the day, the program, as it exists now is still at it's core the previously non-MS program Giant. Give Microsoft enough time, they'll probably find a way to screw it up as badly as they do everything else

dawsongirl
01-09-2005, 02:49 AM
its free for download:

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

and the Giant, er Microsoft Anti-Spyware is for Windows 2000, XP, or 2003 Server only

...so no go for ME or 98 :( (unless you pay for the premium version of the Giant software)

:mumble: Lavasoft's site lied to me.

KJH278
01-09-2005, 12:52 PM
What do they mean by Beta

robyrob
01-09-2005, 12:59 PM
:mumble: Lavasoft's site lied to me.
no, they MISLED you, so you'd pay for the upgrade without realizing that you didn't have to ;)

robyrob
01-09-2005, 01:11 PM
What do they mean by Beta , is it free
"Beta" means that it is not an official release version, it is still in testing. Although, the only changes to the program are removing the non-NT codebase (so it wont work with ME and 98).

For now, its free - that COULD change, but I don't think so. Most likely this is part of an effort by MS to deal with the potential threat of firefox/Linux/open source and an answer to the criticism on IE's security loopholes. There will probably still be a premium version that you can purchase separately, but the basic version will remain free I think, and probably bundled with the next release of Internet Explorer.

What I'm waiting for is MS to announce its plans for its own Antivirus software - they will probably just buy or license someone else's software, but if they intend to bundle it with Longhorn (as just another built-in feature), this could be bad for Norton and McAfee.

Monopoly anyone?

(I always preferred Twister anyways)

robyrob
01-09-2005, 02:49 PM
What I'm waiting for is MS to announce its plans for its own Antivirus software - they will probably just buy or license someone else's software, but if they intend to bundle it with Longhorn (as just another built-in feature), this could be bad for Norton and McAfee.
:lol: man I spoke too soon:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1748869,00.asp

I am Roboto
01-10-2005, 12:09 AM
Monopoly anyone?


:lol:

http://www.mslinux.org/

;)

robyrob
01-10-2005, 12:51 AM
:lol:

http://www.mslinux.org/

;)
:lol:

robyrob
02-16-2005, 10:36 AM
and it was announced yesterday, AS I PREDICTED, that Antispyware would be free to owners of LEGAL copies of Windows XP;

http://news.com.com/Windows+anti-spyware+to+come+free+of+charge/2100-7355_3-5577202.html?tag=nl.e501

Windows anti-spyware to come free of charge
Published: February 15, 2005, 10:49 AM PST
By Robert Lemos and Dawn Kawamoto
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

update SAN FRANCISCO--Ending speculation about whether it was shifting to a paid model, Microsoft said on Tuesday that it will provide customers with its new anti-spyware software for free.

The pledge, made by Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates during his keynote speech kicking off the RSA Conference 2005 here, comes after the company had been testing its AntiSpyware application--technology it acquired with its purchase of security software maker Giant Software.....

robyrob
02-16-2005, 10:39 AM
and it was announced yesterday, AS I PREDICTED, that Antispyware would be free to owners of LEGAL copies of Windows XP;

http://news.com.com/Windows+anti-spyware+to+come+free+of+charge/2100-7355_3-5577202.html?tag=nl.e501


and despite this, after he announced some details of IE 7.0 the results of a poll of CNET users shows:

New IE 7 vs. Firefox
I'm keeping the Firefox faith 72.2%
In Gates we trust 27.8%


(poll is still open)
http://polls.cnet.com/polls/results.php?action=vote&template_set=newssa&poll_ident=1119&option_id=1&x=29&y=13

Kazza
02-16-2005, 11:52 AM
I switched my browser to Mozilla and unlike Yahoo's DSL is not full of spyware junk!
I have the Beta version of the Microsoft downloaded and I really like it along with Ad- aware SE!