I know this has probably been done before but some of the older cases really bug me out so i thought it would be fun to list are most bizzare cases for unexplained deaths...here are mine:

1. Cindy James
2. The woman found in the barrel in the lake behind her house
3. The kid found three days after a party dead in the dessert
4. The kid killed at a carnival (the offered three different scenerios)
5. Amy Bradley

Thats all i can think of now.

ddelta,

I happened to notice that your list of "most bizzare" unexplained death cases includes a description of the Jeremy Bright case. That was #4 ("the kid killed at the carnival"). That's a missing persons case, not unexplained death. Indeed, multiple theories have been suggested as to what became of him following the Orgeon carnival in 1986, including one involving him dying of a bullet wound after being shot by punks. However, there is no proof that he is dead (nor can we prove that he is still alive). He is still officially listed as a missing person, and is considered alive until proven otherwise. Therefore, his case cannot be counted as unexplained death.

The same applies to the Amy Bradley case.

The AJ Breaux case has always puzzled me. He was the small town southern businessman who was spotted several times after he went missing. The last time anyone saw him, he was going door to door selling frozen fish.

Also the Amy Billig case. I feel so sorry for her mother. The poor woman lost her daughter and then was tormented for years by a heartless creep who claimed to know what happened to her.

Originally posted by Kane
ddelta,

I happened to notice that your list of "most bizzare" unexplained death cases includes a description of the Jeremy Bright case. That was #4 ("the kid killed at the carnival"). That's a missing persons case, not unexplained death. Indeed, multiple theories have been suggested as to what became of him following the Orgeon carnival in 1986, including one involving him dying of a bullet wound after being shot by punks. However, there is no proof that he is dead (nor can we prove that he is still alive). He is still officially listed as a missing person, and is considered alive until proven otherwise. Therefore, his case cannot be counted as unexplained death.

The same applies to the Amy Bradley case.

Ddelta,

I didn't read your post carefully the first time. Sorry.

To me, one of the most bizzare unexplained death cases was the one on Clarence Roberts. He was the Indiana man who was supposedly found dead in two separate fires: the first in 1970, the second in 1980. Many speculated that he faked his death in the first fire in order to get out of debt, and that a vagrant died in his place. His wife Geneva was killed in the second fire. Clarence's sister-in-law said on the show that she believed Clarence to be alive.

Not a problem Kane, I understand how you could be confused. I meant missing or unexplained deaths.

Another one is Tara Calico and that picture. I wonder if they are one in the same and if they are who is the boy in the picture with her?

Originally posted by Kane
To me, one of the most bizzare unexplained death cases was the one on Clarence Roberts. He was the Indiana man who was supposedly found dead in two separate fires: the first in 1970, the second in 1980. Many speculated that he faked his death in the first fire in order to get out of debt, and that a vagrant died in his place. His wife Geneva was killed in the second fire. Clarence's sister-in-law said on the show that she believed Clarence to be alive.

I agree Kane!!! Do you remember if UM mentioned (or do you happen to know) whether his family buried both bodies or just one? Perhaps they could do a DNA test? (I know it's horribly expensive but it would finally put at least part of the mystery to rest)

The Cindy James segment always intrigued me ever since the time it was first aired back in 1991. And when I got a book about the case a few years ago, I was so interested that I finished it in 2 days.

*6 1/2 years of harrasment and torture sounds like a nightmare. It was never proved whether or not someone was actually doing these horrible things to her for all those years but it was never proved that she was staging all the incidents herself either. It just remains a total mystery. I have a hard time believing that she could have done ALL of those things to herself. And her death scene was even more obvious. No way could she have injected herself with morphine drugs and then actually bound her hands and feet together behind her back. Very depressing and very scary.

*How about the Nyleen Kay Marshall case? Kidnapped in 1983 and hasn't been seen since. I'll bet she is still alive today and has no idea that this man (who is probably pretending to be her father) has actually abducted her. The letter the kidnapper wrote was haunting.

*I still hold on to hope and pray that the Maples will be caught and punished for kidnapping their grandchildren Kristy and Bobby Baskin. Such a sad case that always got to me. I even wrote a letter to Mark & Debbie Baskin (their parents) telling them that they will always be in my prayers and that I hope for them to be reunited with their children soon. Today they would be 23 and 22. What the Maples have done is just plain evil and not something you would ever expect your grandparents to do.

Ive posted about this one before (its an oldie), about the young chorus girl who disappeared and had left some odd hints to her friends that she may never see them again and dedicated a song "Hello" (Lionel Richie) to her dad before she disappeared. I dont know if it ever was updatred because it was on UM before Stack hosted. Anyway...that one was so perplexing.

Well, this is probably the seven hundredth time I've brought this case up on here, but it has stuck with me all these years despite the fact that I have only seen it once. The story was about a young couple from Louisiana who were found shot to death in their home in 1991. The theory was that this group of teenagers broke in, murdered the husband, raped his wife before killing her, and then had a party at the house, and supposedly videotaped all of this. It was a complex case, and there are a lot of other details that I am probably forgetting, but from what I can remember, it was a very bizarre and disturbing story.

Justin

Justin

I don't remember that case at all.....does anyone here remember it???

Neither does the other case of the girl dedicating the song to her dad...anyone know more information on this case.

I thought i have seen them all!!

Originally posted by ddelta
Neither does the other case of the girl dedicating the song to her dad...anyone know more information on this case.


I know for a fact crystaldawn remembers the first case I mentioned. ;)

I don't have any new information (it doesn't ring any bells with me either) but I can tell you that whoever said it was part of one of the early Pre-Stack specials is wrong. I've seen all three, and this doesn't fit with any of the cases profiled.

Justin

I also remember Justin's story, but my memory is sketchy as well. It wasn't one of the really early ones, but I lived in Louisiana at the time and I do remember the murders took place somewhere in that state. I seem to remember that the couple also had a baby, who was found unharmed. It would be nice to find out their names to see if there's anything on the net about it.

Originally posted by mortytbusybody
I agree Kane!!! Do you remember if UM mentioned (or do you happen to know) whether his family buried both bodies or just one? Perhaps they could do a DNA test? (I know it's horribly expensive but it would finally put at least part of the mystery to rest)

I know that the body of the 1980 fire victim was buried (along with Geneva Roberts). The grave read Clarence Roberts' year of death as 1980. As for the victim in the 1970 fire, I'm not certain.

But I agree that they could (and should) try a DNA test. It's worth the expense to find some answers. On a related subject, the 1970 victim's blood type was different from Clarence's. Unless a clerical error has been made, the body in the 1970 fire could not have been that of Clarence Roberts.

2 Words:

BLAIR ADAMS!!!

Ddelta, you can read my earlier post on the choir girl at the link below. Another member remembers it too. You know, the way UM has shown segments over the last couple of decades has been nothing less than wishy washy and a mystery itself. They may have shown it one time and never again for all we know.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59785

The most bizzare missing persons case that comes to my mind is the 1981 disappearance of Cynthia Anderson. She vanished from the Ohio law office where she worked. Prior to her disappearance, she had a nightmare, and there was speculation that it foretold her fate.

Here's the link for those who are unfamiliar with the case:

http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/canderson.html

Also, as mentioned in an earlier post, I consider the Clarence Roberts case to be one of the most bizzare unexplained death cases. There is another case that I consider to be one of the most bizzare: the 1981 murder of Rhonda Hinson.

Rhonda Hinson was the North Carolina woman who was murdered while en route home from a Christmas party. What I consider bizzare about the case was that, not long before her death, she had been taking showers after midnight. This is said to be the type of behavior of women who were sexually assaulted. Whether she really was a sexual assault victim, no one can say for sure.

However, her mother said in the UM interview that Rhonda once asked her whether it was okay to date a married man. This seemed to imply that either Rhonda had an affair with a married man, or she knew of someone who did. So there was a theory that someone she knew was having an affair. If that was the case, it is possible that her unknown murderer killed her in order to ensure that she would never disclose it to anyone.

Kane, I dont recall this case at all. Have you seen it lately on UM, Id like to see it!

Originally posted by CrushedVelvet
Kane, I dont recall this case at all. Have you seen it lately on UM, Id like to see it!

You mean the Rhonda Hinson murder? It aired during the 1989-90 season. Unfortunately, my daily work schedule has precluded me from watching UM recently (though I still catch it whenever possible), so I don't know whether it has been shown recently. But I know for a fact that Lifetime has rerun it countless times.

Here's a link on the Hinson murder:

http://www.burkesheriff.org/hinson.htm

Hope this helps.

Originally posted by Kane
You mean the Rhonda Hinson murder? It aired during the 1989-90 season. Unfortunately, my daily work schedule has precluded me from watching UM recently (though I still catch it whenever possible), so I don't know whether it has been shown recently. But I know for a fact that Lifetime has rerun it countless times.

Here's a link on the Hinson murder:

http://www.burkesheriff.org/hinson.htm

Hope this helps.

I remember this one...this was the one (though it does not say it on the website) where an eyewitnesses saw someone by the drives side door pushing that woman back and forth....they did not stop.....scary...

Some that are off the top of my head...

1- The two boys laid across the railroad tracks. The update confirmed at least one was murdered before they were hit. Who and Whyyyyyyyy?

2- The guy who was on drugs and stormed away from his parents one day and some of his bones were found over ten years later. His case caused a big police scandal and his death is still completely unexplained. I wonder if his grief-stricken parents are even still alive. :(

3- Judy Hymes who vanished after an alleged abortion and those creeeepy calls and that creeeepy letter someone sent to Unsolved Mysteries.

4- The mad butcher/ Black Dahlia killers! A Mysteries segment tried to link these crimes but I don't think so! Different psychopaths at work there.

The segment on the Angela Hammond kidnapping always scared the crap out of me...that someone would just grab her while she feels safe talking to her boyfriend on the pay-phone! One would think that her abductor would have waited until she hung up the phone so he would have more time to make his getaway before Angie was missed. Most (but obviously not all) abductors/rapists/murders quietly stalk their prey, this guy had no patience. (Of course there is always the possibility that her boyfriend made up the whole story but what motive did he have to kill her?)

Another case that bothered me for the longest time was that of Kari Lynn Nixon. My heart truly sank when I saw the update on Lifetime not to long ago that she had in fact been murdered shortly after being abducted. For the longest time I assumed that the girl in the "New Kids on the Block" video was her. The concert footage is so eerie because she is at the center of the screen and everyone else in the audience is slightly distanced from her...its almost (yeah I'm gonna say it) GHOSTLY.:eek:

This is probably the 7 millionth time I've said it, but that damned Korzilius murder ranks as one of the most bizarre they ever showed.

About the Rhonda Hinson case, the crazy thing about the way she was killed was that as she started to speed off in her car, the bullet that killed her traveled through the back of her car, through the trunk, through the back seat, through the drivers seat and then drove right through her heart. The killer was extrememly lucky that his target was perfect . I'd say only one out of a million times could somebody get such a lucky shot.

I'm also wondering if her killer was actually at the office Christmas party she attended on the night of the murder or waiting outside for her. He probably followed her as she dropped off her two friends and waited for her to be alone.

That would be a very good possibility. Good observation. I wonder if the police ever looked into that angle of where the killer came from.

Anyone hear of that one story of that kid who went missing when he was camping with his Dad in the middle of no where?! He was walking back to his camp ground and just dissappeared. There was no trace of him being eaten by an animal and it was impossible for anyone to kidnap him since he was way up in the mountains. Weird!! The freakiest part was when the father went all over the place looking for him and heard a faint "Dad!" and when he looked...no one was there. A search party consisting of about 1,000 people found nothing.

I'm still creeped out by the Chaim Weiss case -- the Orthodox Jewish boy murdered at his school. That's the one where the detectives had no leads at all because it's against Orthodox Jewish rules to rat on anyone based upon mere suspicion.

3scompanyfreak: was this a UM story? Do you know the name of the boy or where it happened? IT sounds like UM material. Id like to look into it, very interesting and spooky. And sad. :eek:

Could it be Michael Henley, the boy some thought was in the photograph with Tara Calico? I know he was hunting with his dad in the mountains and went missing. I know his body was found later in the same mountains where he went missing, therefore making it very unlikely it was him in the photograph.

A few responses to this interesting thread as I've been away from this bbs since the summer and am just catching up now.

Blair Adams - Always thought and Always will think he had something to do with his own death. The guy was definatley very weird and although it might have not been a suicide I think Blair was somehow involved in what happened to him in Tennessee rather then it being a random act of violence against him

Rhonda Hinson - Very Very Very strange case with the affair scenario being a likely possibility. There is just not enough information available on this case as of yet (or known to the public) to make any further conjectures although I always thought that maybe Rhonda saw something she shouldn't have beyond just the affair situation but maybe thats just my stigmata about the era in which Rhonda died - I dunno :confused:

Angela Hammond - She is believed to have been murdered by some Texas serial killer who has since been put to death on another charge - I forgot his name but I googled it and he was the primary suspect in not only her death/disappearance but many other young women around the same time. He never admitted to these crimes though and of course never lead authorities to where bodies could be found but was executed on another murder charge when after being initally paroled in the early 90s he committed another string of violent murders (possibly including Angela Hammond) and was tried and sentenced to death.

Judy Hymes - "Is alive and she lives in Omaha" :rolleyes: not really - she died as a result of that abortion and the crooked doctor apparently buried her at sea or something - that was the gist of the update - No idea why the sinister phone calls were made but they make my list of creepiest UM moments

"Railroad Tracks Case" - Scroll back a few pages - There is a book on this topic called "The Boys On The Tracks" written by one of the victim's mother. I reviewed it in that post - The gist of it is there is strong evidence to suggest the boys were done in by drug lord Barry Seal and the Dixie Mafia - Really disgusting if the cover up is true.

Michael Henley - After they discovered it wasn't Henley with Calico they said it was another boy and if you google it I think you might find his name somewhere - I've never seen the UM broadcast on Tara Calico although feel that she is likely dead - just a gut feeling.

Kerry Lynn Nixon - was this the one of a young girl who disappeared while going to a conveinence store and UM did this dark silouette (sp?) shot of her walking into the night lit only by a street light? - They later said that some eyewitness was introduced to her at a picnic by a mutual friend but when they finally tracked this friend down the friend claimed she had no idea as to the girl's identity - I think actually the girl who went missing turned up dead anyhow so the story about the picnic might have just been a mislead or a hoax

Anyhow I always felt the most bizarre case was the one about Thomas “Tommy” Burkett the Marymount College student whose death was ruled a suicide but his parents believe he was murdered by his fellow classmates (possibly because he was a narc) and his murder was covered up by the powerful relatives of these classmates who either were very high up in the college hierarchy (I think one of the boy’s grandmother was a Dean or on the board of directors or something) or high in state or federal government. I really believe this is one case that needed to be cracked wide open and find out what the hell happened. If you go to the site dedicated to Burkett and his father’s plight to seek justice (I believe it’s called PACC or Parents against Conspiracy and can be easily googled) you can read all the discrepancies and odd occurrences surrounding Tommy’s death. While the local and state authorities still look at The Burketts as grieving parents I have to say there are just too many inconsistencies and strange coincidences surround Burkett’s death that if even half of the accusations the Burketts have leveled against Marymount college and the government – that they would have a strong case against suicide and pretty conclusive evidence that their son was murdered – By whom and why? – I have no idea – any thoughts

Angela Hammond - She is believed to have been murdered by some Texas serial killer who has since been put to death on another charge - I forgot his name but I googled it and he was the primary suspect in not only her death/disappearance but many other young women around the same time. He never admitted to these crimes though and of course never lead authorities to where bodies could be found but was executed on another murder charge when after being initally paroled in the early 90s he committed another string of violent murders (possibly including Angela Hammond) and was tried and sentenced to death.

The serial killer in question sounds like Kenneth McDuff to me. He went to death row for killing three teenagers in 1966, then had the sentenced reduced to life in prison (when the death penalty was abolished for four years), and got paroled in 1989.

He was later convicted of two more murders, including Colleen Reed (whose abduction was the focus of a 1992 UM segment). He was executed on November 17, 1998.

Contrary to what you said, McDuff DID lead authorities to the whereabouts of several missing women. In October of 1998, one month before his execution, McDuff led them to the remains of three women (including Colleen Reed) who had been missing for years. Some sources claim that McDuff provided the information in a deal to reduce a jail sentence for a nephew of his, who was convicted of selling drugs.

Charrming gentlemen. Their parents must be so proud.

jeeps

Some sources claim that McDuff provided the information in a deal to reduce a jail sentence for a nephew of his, who was convicted of selling drugs.

you can really do that?? i didnt think you could confess for someone else's benefit. :eek: guess you learn something new every day

The case that always freaked me out wicked bad was the story of the five fishermen from Hawaii who went missing in the storm.

Normally, not a big deal but they found the boat trashed on some island along with a crude grave with one of the men in it. In the grave were about 100 small sheets of white paper. Between each sheet of white paper was a one square inch piece of tin foil.

Man, what is up with that???

Man, what is up with that???lol good question

I gotta go with dynoguy, Cindy James takes the cake

Ive posted about this one before (its an oldie), about the young chorus girl who disappeared and had left some odd hints to her friends that she may never see them again and dedicated a song "Hello" (Lionel Richie) to her dad before she disappeared. I dont know if it ever was updatred because it was on UM before Stack hosted. Anyway...that one was so perplexing.

I have no idea why, but I remember her name. I beleive it was Pascal Newbegin, and her parents did find her, working at a pizza restaurant some distance from their homw.

It has been years since I saw the segment about the young choir girl who went missing, but I have often wondered if she was ever found. If I remember correctly, she disappeared one night after taking part in a Christmas concert. Earlier that week, she had taken gifts to school to give to her friends. She told them she wouldn't be at school on the day the gifts were supposed to be exchanged but didn't explain why she would be absent. At the end of the segment, her friends and family released balloons into the air that signified hope she would return home. I don't remember ever seeing an update that she had been found. The name Pascal Newbegin rings a bell, but for some reason I am connecting it with another missing persons case. I'm thinking she was a little bit older than the choir girl and was from another part of the country.

I have always been haunted by the Mary Agnes Gross case. Basically, an unwed mother has a baby in 1962. Because of the times, she is fully medicated during the delivery. When she wakes up, she is told that the baby is dead. Over the next few days, weird things happen. She isn't allowed to touch the deceased child, the family isn't allowed to photograph the baby,etc. After the funeral, someone sends the mother a photograph of a baby..and the baby looks like the mother's former husband. Years later, the baby's grave is unearthed and it turns out that it isn't her baby at all!!! DNA tests prove it!
This bothers me on so many levels. First of all, someone out there is privy to what happened.Doctors,nurses, aides, funeral directors,etc..someone knows something!!! Second of all,why would someone do something so evil?
Ultimately, I think that the unwed mother's family had something to do with it.Maybe they were embarrassed by her status and wanted to save face in the community. Maybe they "arranged" to have the baby adopted or sold on the black market.
If I had a million dollars I'd give it to the person who could shed light on this unsolved mystery which,imho, could be solved if someone had the nerve to talk!

Yes, I agree. That case haunts me, too. I need a refresher. Where was the boat found, and by whom? I once had a link bookmarked about this case, but can't find it now. Any details would be appreciated.



The case that always freaked me out wicked bad was the story of the five fishermen from Hawaii who went missing in the storm.

Normally, not a big deal but they found the boat trashed on some island along with a crude grave with one of the men in it. In the grave were about 100 small sheets of white paper. Between each sheet of white paper was a one square inch piece of tin foil.

Man, what is up with that???

What about that case from the first UM special about the man who disappeared in Wyoming? His car was found running, and I think that there was a mysterious answering machine message left (by him?) years later. What was his name?

The Sandra Orrellana(sp?) case always intrigued me for some reason. Though I know it has now been, for lack of a better term, resolved. Another case was teh one where the friends crossed the border to party in Mexico. One of them didn't make it home alive. I can't recall their names....

The Trac(e)y Kirkpatrick case has always been bizzare to me. Ive tried to find info on this case but I have been unable to.

The Angela Hammond case is one of the creepiest one's I remember.
Her boyfriend drove to the location where she was abducted from - and on the way passed her in a truck screaming for her life.

Upon doing a U-turn his transmission fell out and she was never seen again.

There was a story on Lifetime today about a Korean woman who was found stabbed to death in a Brooklyn dumpster. Her name (probably mispelled Soon Y. Kim). Heartbreaking because she was a wife and a mother of 2 children and she had just left to go shopping. Her husban was so heartbroken over the murder that he eventually left America.

This story was bizarre for so many reasons. First, a security guard claimed to have witnessed a caucasian man near the dumpster with blood on his shirt. The guard claimed that the man offered him $20 to put something in the dumpster. The guard accepted the money and took down the license plate as the guy drove away. The police traced the car to a Tiawanese exchange student, who claimed not to have driven the car. The police stated that they did not believe that that was the car that was seen (Even though the guard gave them the license number and it matched the make and model). The guard took and passed a lie detector. Unbelieveably bizarre! Does anyone have any further information?

I know that the body of the 1980 fire victim was buried (along with Geneva Roberts). The grave read Clarence Roberts' year of death as 1980. As for the victim in the 1970 fire, I'm not certain.

But I agree that they could (and should) try a DNA test. It's worth the expense to find some answers. On a related subject, the 1970 victim's blood type was different from Clarence's. Unless a clerical error has been made, the body in the 1970 fire could not have been that of Clarence Roberts.

Not to burst your bubble abt DNA, but did you happen to read my thread abt CHIMERISM? It's under general forum I believe. If you can't find it, search the internet. It explains how there are humans walking around that DON'T KNOW THEY SUFFER FROM CHIMERISM and have two different DNA in their bodies. They could give a DNA sample and it could be construed wrong. Want to know why? Follow-up on this CHIMERISM. Freaky!!!!! First heard and seen abt this on TLC Channel. Basically in a nutshell it is when two fetus' are set to be developing twins and for whatever genetic reason, those two fetus' fuse together and become ONE BABY!!! However, the one child has two distinct DNA. One baby was shown to have a distinct line from it's neck down to it's privates. One side black, the other caucasion. Basically, two fraternal twins, one black, the other white fused together as one individual. The parents were biracial. Very very weird.

The case about Dave Bocks (who some speculate killed himself by jumping into a nuclear reactor and some believe he was murdered) and the case about Curt Borton (who is thought to be KIA in Vietman or the Korean War but his famliy memebers believe he is still alive even tho the military told him he was 1st MIA, then KIA...and his sister thinks that she has seen him around, but he can not contact them because it's some Witness Protection thing were the military supposedly gives some soliders new identies and they can not speak to relatives).....both cases are very weird.