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Edster2973 11-12-2004, 09:23 AM Hello all,
I was wondering why there is no participation from the surviving cast members for the commentaries of Three's Company. I can understand that perhaps Suzanne Somers, regrettably, may not be allowed to do any, but what about Joyce DeWitt, Richard Kline, or some of the directors?
And in later seasons, why not have participation from Priscilla Barnes, Don Knotts, Jenilee Harrison, Anne Wedgeworth, and perhaps a guest-star (if it's related to the episode that's being commented on)? Is it too painful for some of them to watch these episodes since John Ritter's passing?
I for one would like Priscilla to do a re-visit of sorts (almost as much as I'd like to see Suzanne) since she sounded pretty bitter about her 3 year experience on Three's Company, calling it the worst three years of her life. Perhaps seeing an episode or two could remind her that some of the time was good (if indeed it was).
I think a commentary featuring input from both Joyce & Suzanne would be a nice way to pay tribute to John, putting aside whatever differences to celebrate the show's legacy. I know this won't happen, but it's nice to dream. Heck, if Dixie Carter & Delta Burke (of Designing Women) can heal their long, bitter feud and become close friends again, surely there's hope for Joyce & Suzanne. The very least is that they could agree to bury the hatchet long enough to be civil to one another.
Either way, it'd be nice to have some cast/director input. Chris Mann is ok, but he's still just a fan when you come down to it. He's not enough of an authority if you know what I mean. Not to dismiss his contribution (I love his book!), but a lot of his insights he can only speculate about. He wasn't there and doesn't know any more than we do (except for whatever the cast members may have told him in interviews). But sometimes memory can't be trusted, and perhaps seeing an old episode could jog one of the cast's memory about something that has since been long forgotten. Either way, I want cast participation. I want to have insight from those who were there...
Ed
Terri Cardellini 11-12-2004, 12:28 PM Originally posted by Edster2973
I for one would like Priscilla to do a re-visit of sorts (almost as much as I'd like to see Suzanne) since she sounded pretty bitter about her 3 year experience on Three's Company, calling it the worst three years of her life. Perhaps seeing an episode or two could remind her that some of the time was good (if indeed it was).
I agree :)
I Love John Ritter 11-12-2004, 04:00 PM I think it would be nice to have Joyce, or any of the cast members do a commentary for one of the episodes.
Janet McFarland 11-12-2004, 04:58 PM Originally posted by Edster2973
I think a commentary featuring input from both Joyce & Suzanne would be a nice way to pay tribute to John, putting aside whatever differences to celebrate the show's legacy. I know this won't happen, but it's nice to dream. Heck, if Dixie Carter & Delta Burke (of Designing Women) can heal their long, bitter feud and become close friends again, surely there's hope for Joyce & Suzanne. The very least is that they could agree to bury the hatchet long enough to be civil to one another.
I agree! I'd pay any amount of money to see Joyce and Suzanne together again.. just to pay respects to John.. it'd be nice :D
MoonFlower 11-12-2004, 06:39 PM why not have participation from Priscilla Barnes, Don Knotts, Jenilee Harrison, Anne Wedgeworth, and perhaps a guest-star (if it's related to the episode that's being commented on)?
i agree
but Sussane Somers?!?!? who cares to have that 2 face, greedy, ungreatful, backstabber on the commentaries? calling a show that fed her and her family for 3 years and put her on the map in hollywood "the worst three years of her life" !!!puhleez. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Edster2973 11-12-2004, 06:53 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Is there a problem? I'm not too sure about how to take this post and wish you'd make yourself a bit clearer. Do you think it's silly to want cast participation for commentary or is it something else? Confused...
Ed
Sean Snow 11-12-2004, 06:58 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
but Sussane Somers?!?!? who cares to have that 2 face, greedy, ungreatful, backstabber on the commentaries? calling a show that fed her and her family for 3 years and put her on the map in hollywood "the worst three years of her life" !!!puhleez. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Suzanne wasn't the one who called it the worst three years of her life; Priscilla Barnes said that on the E! True Hollywood Story. Suzanne has had a lot of good things to say about her time on the show, aside from her final season there.
I, for one, would like to hear commentaries from her along with the rest of the cast.
MoonFlower 11-12-2004, 07:05 PM Originally posted by Sean Snow
Suzanne wasn't the one who called it the worst three years of her life; Priscilla Barnes said that on the E! True Hollywood Story. Suzanne has had a lot of good things to say about her time on the show, aside from her final season there.
I, for one, would like to hear commentaries from her along with the rest of the cast.
Well, i don't care for people with her values. :rolleyes:
Edster2973 11-12-2004, 07:20 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
Well, i don't care for people with her values. :rolleyes:
That's your perogative pal, but she's come forward and has admitted that she didn't handle the raise thing properly. As a result, she was fired and ostracized for over 10 years in Hollywood. Methinks she's paid her dues, wouldn't you say? Besides, I wouldn't want my sins from all the way back to 1980 to haunt me either. If no one was allowed to let bygones be bygones, then no one is bound for heaven.
Also of note, many have tried to dismiss what Suzanne had said about the producers (how they set everything up and how sexist they were). Isn't it interesting that when Joyce & Priscilla (who claim not to be part of Suzanne's camp) talk of the producers and their methods of running the show, they basically support Suzanne's claims? Without even meaning to, they have lended credence to what Suzanne had said all along.
Look at how the producers even treated Norman Fell & Audra Lindley, not to mention Richard Kline (he was written out of a few shows for making a suggestion), Jenilee Harrison (she was treated HORRIBLY) and Anne Wedgeworth. Pretty crummy if you ask me. And how about how the cast was treated when it was decided that the show was to turn into Three's a Crowd? This was something that even the late, great John Ritter had a part in, and Joyce remained bitter and angry with John up until he died it seems. Do you care for people with their values?
I'm not defending what Suzanne did and how she & her husband handled things, but she paid the price. End of story. I think to condemn her for that even now is a little harsh. If fans were only allowed to love those actors who were saints on the show, I highly doubt we'd have a show to talk about...
Ed
MoonFlower 11-12-2004, 08:06 PM Sussane put everyone elses job in jeopardy b/c she wanted more money, it had nothing to do with the way she was treated. she keeps saying how ashamed she is of her behavior why hasn't she apologize to joyce, Richard Kline etc? Why did John Ritter have to aproach her? puhleez! who needs that 2 face, greedy, ungreatful, backstabber on the commentaries? :rolleyes:
and Joyce remained bitter and angry with John up until he died it seems.
i highly doubt that.
Janet McFarland 11-12-2004, 08:55 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
Sussane put everyone elses job in jeopardy b/c she wanted more money, it had nothing to do with the way she was treated. she keeps saying how ashamed she is of her behavior why hasn't she apologize to joyce, Richard Kline etc? Why did John Ritter have to aproach her? puhleez! who needs that 2 face, greedy, ungreatful, backstabber on the commentaries? :rolleyes:
i highly doubt that.
I think she did apologize to Joyce.. well she tried to at least. John Ritter didn't approach her, his wife did. Suzanne and John's wife Amy met in the bathroom at a party and Amy suggested Suzanne say hi to John and she did and that's how it happened. Yeah, Suzanne was pretty greedy about the money, but Three's Company is over now! It was like 20 years ago.. Suzanne knows what she did is wrong so let's just drop it! And about the comment with Joyce being bitter to John, I doubt it's true. Joyce loved John, even with what he did to her about 'Three's A Crowd', she obviously forgave him and she really adored him.
MoonFlower 11-12-2004, 09:52 PM Originally posted by Janet McFarland
I think she did apologize to Joyce.. well she tried to at least. John Ritter didn't approach her, his wife did. Suzanne and John's wife Amy met in the bathroom at a party and Amy suggested Suzanne say hi to John and she did and that's how it happened. Yeah, Suzanne was pretty greedy about the money, but Three's Company is over now! It was like 20 years ago.. Suzanne knows what she did is wrong so let's just drop it! And about the comment with Joyce being bitter to John, I doubt it's true. Joyce loved John, even with what he did to her about 'Three's A Crowd', she obviously forgave him and she really adored him.
if she did apologize to joyce, how come when whe was asked the question about the emmy reunion she said she hadn't heard anything about it n she was asked "even if it doesn't happen will u still call joyce n make up" or something like that n she said something like "well, maybe, i don't know, but u know how it is..." so when was it that she apologized or (and i really like to know about this)"tried too"?
and why should we drop it b/c u say so? i have a right to say if a want to see her in the dvds or not and why.
Frankness ahead:
Will you please just shut up? You're making no sense, and obviously don't have any real knowledge about the whole contract dispute.
MoonFlower 11-12-2004, 10:32 PM Originally posted by JT
Frankness ahead:
Will you please just shut up? You're making no sense, and obviously don't have any real knowledge about the whole contract dispute.
Oh n i suppose u do know. i'm only saying what i've heard just like everyone else in here and u r VERY RUDE :rolleyes:
Janet McFarland 11-12-2004, 11:53 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
if she did apologize to joyce, how come when whe was asked the question about the emmy reunion she said she hadn't heard anything about it n she was asked "even if it doesn't happen will u still call joyce n make up" or something like that n she said something like "well, maybe, i don't know, but u know how it is..." so when was it that she apologized or (and i really like to know about this)"tried too"?
and why should we drop it b/c u say so? i have a right to say if a want to see her in the dvds or not and why.
Where did you hear this? You have no proof.. unless you got it off the internet or something.
God I was just suggesting we drop it.. we're not getting anywhere with it other than you making absolutely no sense! :rolleyes:
MoonFlower 11-13-2004, 08:45 AM Originally posted by Janet McFarland
Where did you hear this? You have no proof.. unless you got it off the internet or something.
God I was just suggesting we drop it.. we're not getting anywhere with it other than you making absolutely no sense! :rolleyes:
I heard it in some show and the words came straight out of her own mouth, but i don't remember where exactly though, but where did u hear that she "tried" and what happenend? and is unfortunate that in this board some people r so rude. :rolleyes:
Janet Tripper 11-13-2004, 01:35 PM Originally posted by I Love John Ritter
I think it would be nice to have Joyce, or any of the cast members do a commentary for one of the episodes.
I so agree!!! I think Chris does a wonderful job but a member of the cast would be awesome since they acutally experanced it and where there during the filming!!!
and about SS and her taking part in the DVD!! I don't really care to hear much from her either but I would think that would be a good idea so that her fans can get a chance to hear from her! But since its so obvious I am a JDW fan I would perfer her doing the commenteries!!! :D !!! But I would def. love to hear from PB and DK!!! I totally enjoyed the RK interview and hope they do that w/the rest of the cast!!!
Edster2973 11-13-2004, 01:46 PM Sussane put everyone elses job in jeopardy b/c she wanted more money, it had nothing to do with the way she was treated. she keeps saying how ashamed she is of her behavior why hasn't she apologize to joyce, Richard Kline etc? Why did John Ritter have to aproach her? puhleez! who needs that 2 face, greedy, ungreatful, backstabber on the commentaries?
Oh please, so your like or dislike of Suzanne is contingent on whether she apologized to Joyce? Grow up already.
You act like she was the only one who used bad judgment. For crying out loud. Who died and made you judge?
All you have to do is watch the E! True Hollywood Story on Three's Company to see that everyone involved were not saints. I remember distinctly when that was first aired, people complained that Joyce DeWitt was still harboring a grudge not only against Suzanne and the producers, but against John as well. I thought that was a bit unfair. All she was doing was saying what really went on. She was trying to get across how painful it was to be casually thrown away by the producers. Not only that but she felt she was lied to when she asked if changes were afoot for the show. She also mentioned that she was devastated that John played an obvious part in the deception about the new series. It's mentioned there on the show and it's mentioned more in depth in the book by Christopher Mann.
No matter how you slice it, either Joyce looks bitter by getting fired up about it even though it was all in the past, or John looks bad since he put the producers (and business) first before his relationship with Joyce. But hey, John died and Joyce has been giving him tributes so let's focus on Suzanne instead, right? As far as you're concerned, they're blameless and Suzanne is next to the devil.
Gimme a break...
In hindsight it's understandable why money became so important to Suzanne, considering her history. She had no solid family base since her father was an abusive drunk and her mother was a very passive victim. Suzanne was constantly put down and told that she was nothing. Since she was poor, when opportunity came knocking with Three's Company, she tried to get as much out of it as she could. Given her dysfunctional family life, it's no wonder why she thought money would make her happy. All she knew was that she couldn't count on family or people in general, or so she thought.
Given her low self-esteem, even during Three's Company, she probably thought that this was her big shot at fame and her only opportunity at being in a hit series, and she went for broke. She admits now that she was wrong. Isn't that enough?
Suzanne not only overcame a career obstacle when she was blackballed from Three's Company but she has since helped people who have issues with alcoholism. People have had their lives turned around due to her telling her story. But hey, she made one bad call in her life so let's stone her...
And for what it's worth, Suzanne spoke out against the Three's Company producers when they canned Joyce DeWitt for Three's a Crowd. She said that she thought Joyce at least deserved to know the truth about the spinoff and that she thought it was cruel for the producers to have done that to her. Suzanne said that Three's Company wasn't just about John Ritter and that Joyce was carrying the show just as much as John. She said it didn't surprise her though, that the producers didn't appreciate Joyce, given how she herself was treated.
Concerning Don Knotts & Richard Kline, I highly doubt they hold a grudge against Suzanne 'Satan' Somers and need an apology from her. They did guest-star on Suzanne's later show, Step By Step, after all. In fact, I think Suzanne even requested that they guest-star on the show, if I'm not mistaken.
Who knows why Joyce & Suzanne haven't reconciled, if indeed they haven't. I remember seeing both on Entertainment Tonight, right BEFORE John Ritter died, where both were interviewed separately and both were asked if they thought a reconciliation between the two was on the horizon. Both answered yes and Joyce even said "And I think we both feel good about that." Who's to say what's happened since then?
I think the only ones who won't reconcile with Suzanne are the producers, but she even tried with them. She wrote them, particularly Mickey Ross, a nice letter apologizing for what went on and thanked him/them for their influence in getting her to where she is today. They failed to respond to her. Hey, she can only bring the horse the water, she can't make it drink.
And in the book by Christopher Mann, mention was made of Suzanne writing Joyce a letter and giving it to her neighbor to give to Joyce. Joyce claimed never to have gotten the letter, but at least an attempt was made.
And as much as I love Joyce DeWitt (and I really do... I love both her and Suzanne equally), I think sometimes when Joyce mentions how one has hurt her, she comes across potentially as almost being unable to forgive and forget. Suzanne even said on the E! True Hollywood Story on Three's Company that she thought things cut deeper with Joyce than with anyone else. Maybe she feels Joyce wasn't nearly as approachable about the subject as John was. Perhaps Suzanne was afraid that any attempt at reconciliation would just upset Joyce all the more. Again we don't know.
By the way, John Ritter spoke out in favor of Suzanne when she was diagnosed with cancer. He said that the past was long forgotten but that even if it wasn't, all that matters is that Suzanne beat this thing and that she get better. We never heard what Joyce had to say, if anything. But I'd bet you'd crucify Suzanne if it had been Joyce who had had the cancer scare and it was Suzanne who kept mum. Perhaps Joyce did make it known that she was thinking of her. Again we don't know.
I'm not speaking out against Joyce or anybody else. I'm just trying to draw some parallels to Suzanne's actions so that it's clear that they all were flawed human beings who messed up once in a while. I'm sure if they all had to do it again, EVERYONE would do things a little bit differently...
Ed
Janet McFarland 11-13-2004, 02:47 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
I heard it in some show and the words came straight out of her own mouth, but i don't remember where exactly though, but where did u hear that she "tried" and what happenend? and is unfortunate that in this board some people r so rude. :rolleyes:
I heard about how Suzanne tried to apologize and how she reconciled with John from Access Hollywood, when they were giving tributes, and also the 'Come And Knock On Our Door' book, so don't think that I don't have any sources, because I do. Yeah, we're rude :rolleyes: we're just trying to make a statement! You'll believe the worst in Suzanne when you don't even know the whole story!
Janet McFarland 11-13-2004, 02:48 PM Originally posted by Edster2973
Oh please, so your like or dislike of Suzanne is contingent on whether she apologized to Joyce? Grow up already.
You act like she was the only one who used bad judgment. For crying out loud. Who died and made you judge?
All you have to do is watch the E! True Hollywood Story on Three's Company to see that everyone involved were not saints. I remember distinctly when that was first aired, people complained that Joyce DeWitt was still harboring a grudge not only against Suzanne and the producers, but against John as well. I thought that was a bit unfair. All she was doing was saying what really went on. She was trying to get across how painful it was to be casually thrown away by the producers. Not only that but she felt she was lied to when she asked if changes were afoot for the show. She also mentioned that she was devastated that John played an obvious part in the deception about the new series. It's mentioned there on the show and it's mentioned more in depth in the book by Christopher Mann.
No matter how you slice it, either Joyce looks bitter by getting fired up about it even though it was all in the past, or John looks bad since he put the producers (and business) first before his relationship with Joyce. But hey, John died and Joyce has been giving him tributes so let's focus on Suzanne instead, right? As far as you're concerned, they're blameless and Suzanne is next to the devil.
Gimme a break...
In hindsight it's understandable why money became so important to Suzanne, considering her history. She had no solid family base since her father was an abusive drunk and her mother was a very passive victim. Suzanne was constantly put down and told that she was nothing. Since she was poor, when opportunity came knocking with Three's Company, she tried to get as much out of it as she could. Given her dysfunctional family life, it's no wonder why she thought money would make her happy. All she knew was that she couldn't count on family or people in general, or so she thought.
Given her low self-esteem, even during Three's Company, she probably thought that this was her big shot at fame and her only opportunity at being in a hit series, and she went for broke. She admits now that she was wrong. Isn't that enough?
Suzanne not only overcame a career obstacle when she was blackballed from Three's Company but she has since helped people who have issues with alcoholism. People have had their lives turned around due to her telling her story. But hey, she made one bad call in her life so let's stone her...
And for what it's worth, Suzanne spoke out against the Three's Company producers when they canned Joyce DeWitt for Three's a Crowd. She said that she thought Joyce at least deserved to know the truth about the spinoff and that she thought it was cruel for the producers to have done that to her. Suzanne said that Three's Company wasn't just about John Ritter and that Joyce was carrying the show just as much as John. She said it didn't surprise her though, that the producers didn't appreciate Joyce, given how she herself was treated.
Concerning Don Knotts & Richard Kline, I highly doubt they hold a grudge against Suzanne 'Satan' Somers and need an apology from her. They did guest-star on Suzanne's later show, Step By Step, after all. In fact, I think Suzanne even requested that they guest-star on the show, if I'm not mistaken.
Who knows why Joyce & Suzanne haven't reconciled, if indeed they haven't. I remember seeing both on Entertainment Tonight, right BEFORE John Ritter died, where both were interviewed separately and both were asked if they thought a reconciliation between the two was on the horizon. Both answered yes and Joyce even said "And I think we both feel good about that." Who's to say what's happened since then?
I think the only ones who won't reconcile with Suzanne are the producers, but she even tried with them. She wrote them, particularly Mickey Ross, a nice letter apologizing for what went on and thanked him/them for their influence in getting her to where she is today. They failed to respond to her. Hey, she can only bring the horse the water, she can't make it drink.
And in the book by Christopher Mann, mention was made of Suzanne writing Joyce a letter and giving it to her neighbor to give to Joyce. Joyce claimed never to have gotten the letter, but at least an attempt was made.
And as much as I love Joyce DeWitt (and I really do... I love both her and Suzanne equally), I think sometimes when Joyce mentions how one has hurt her, she comes across potentially as almost being unable to forgive and forget. Suzanne even said on the E! True Hollywood Story on Three's Company that she thought things cut deeper with Joyce than with anyone else. Maybe she feels Joyce wasn't nearly as approachable about the subject as John was. Perhaps Suzanne was afraid that any attempt at reconciliation would just upset Joyce all the more. Again we don't know.
By the way, John Ritter spoke out in favor of Suzanne when she was diagnosed with cancer. He said that the past was long forgotten but that even if it wasn't, all that matters is that Suzanne beat this thing and that she get better. We never heard what Joyce had to say, if anything. But I'd bet you'd crucify Suzanne if it had been Joyce who had had the cancer scare and it was Suzanne who kept mum. Perhaps Joyce did make it known that she was thinking of her. Again we don't know.
I'm not speaking out against Joyce or anybody else. I'm just trying to draw some parallels to Suzanne's actions so that it's clear that they all were flawed human beings who messed up once in a while. I'm sure if they all had to do it again, EVERYONE would do things a little bit differently...
Ed
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Edster2973 11-13-2004, 02:57 PM Originally posted by Janet McFarland
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Awww shucks, I'm speechless (which is a good thing considering how long my previous post was... lol).
Ed
MoonFlower 11-13-2004, 03:35 PM Janet Mcfarland, is really funny to c how a little posting is all it takes to keep u going. :lol: :D :wave: but i got to give props on that veeeeery long reply :D :D :D
Janet McFarland 11-13-2004, 04:10 PM Originally posted by Edster2973
Awww shucks, I'm speechless (which is a good thing considering how long my previous post was... lol).
Ed
:lol:
Janet McFarland 11-13-2004, 04:12 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
Janet Mcfarland, is really funny to c how a little posting is all it takes to keep u going. :lol: :D :wave: but i got to give props on that veeeeery long reply :D :D :D
Here's a little present for ya buddy: :cuckoo
:woohoo:
chrisw79 11-13-2004, 04:55 PM I happen to be a fan of both Joyce and Suzanne and feel that both are ddcent people. While I feel that Suzanne's actions and her approach were wrong and unprofessional, it has been 24 years already, back when cable tv and vcrs were in their infancy and internet, cell phones and other thechnology was still a pipe dream. Yes, some negative things were said both ways, but no one got killed, lost their house, physically injured. Really, it was Suzanne who was the worse off in the long run as her career went into decline and all the damage done to them was they were forced to memorize two different scripts, hardly something to hold a grudge this long over.Apparently, each knows where the other lives, and New Mmexico and California aren't that far apart, so if they truly wanted to they could.
Michael [hXc] 11-13-2004, 06:07 PM Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
I heard it in some show and the words came straight out of her own mouth, but i don't remember where exactly though, but where did u hear that she "tried" and what happenend? and is unfortunate that in this board some people r so rude. :rolleyes:
You're just using that as an excuse to proclaim how much you dislike Suzanne and put her down and criticize her:rolleyes:
MoonFlower 11-13-2004, 10:06 PM Originally posted by Janet McFarland
Here's a little present for ya buddy: :cuckoo
:woohoo:
:p
I Love John Ritter 11-14-2004, 10:01 PM I love both Joyce and Suzanne. I would like to see them reconcile.
I think it would be nice to have Suzanne Somers, Don Knotts, and Priscilla Barnes do some commentaries. Suzanne herself said that she regretted doing all she did, and I don't think it is right holding that against her for all of these years. Everyone makes mistakes, no one is perfect.
As for Joyce being angry with John up until he died, I really doubt that was true.
Edster2973 11-14-2004, 10:57 PM Originally posted by I Love John Ritter
As for Joyce being angry with John up until he died, I really doubt that was true.
I just brought up this possibility since it appeared in the not too distant E! True Hollywood Story on Three's Company that she was still upset over it. Do I think she still had an issue with John? Not really, but I wanted to show those people (who talk of Suzanne like she's the anti-Christ) that the other actors occasionally acted inappropriately. I guarantee that if Suzanne had said what Joyce said on that same special, these people would have a problem with it as well. Methinks there's a bias creeping in...
BTW, Joyce is terrific and I know for a fact that about a month or two before John died, they both met up at a play of some sort. Hardly an example of a grudge match, eh? Joyce spoke of this while being interviewed during the time immediately following John's passing. So things were cool between the two, which is cool all around... :cool:
Ed
I Love John Ritter 11-14-2004, 11:30 PM Originally posted by Edster2973
I just brought up this possibility since it appeared in the not too distant E! True Hollywood Story on Three's Company that she was still upset over it. Do I think she still had an issue with John? Not really, but I wanted to show those people (who talk of Suzanne like she's the anti-Christ) that the other actors occasionally acted inappropriately. I guarantee that if Suzanne had said what Joyce said on that same special, these people would have a problem with it as well. Methinks there's a bias creeping in...
BTW, Joyce is terrific and I know for a fact that about a month or two before John died, they both met up at a play of some sort. Hardly an example of a grudge match, eh? Joyce spoke of this while being interviewed during the time immediately following John's passing. So things were cool between the two, which is cool all around... :cool:
Ed
Oh, okay. Thank you for clearing that up. :wave:
Originally posted by ~*~ I Love TC ~*~
I heard it in some show and the words came straight out of her own mouth, but i don't remember where exactly though, but where did u hear that she "tried" and what happenend? and is unfortunate that in this board some people r so rude. :rolleyes:
And you AREN'T rude? You're damning a woman you NEVER spoke to before. She did NOTHING AT ALL to you and you are calling her the most disgusting names?
I'm sorry, but you haven't seen rude yet, you demented loser.:rolleyes:
LuLu Rogers 11-24-2004, 01:41 PM and Joyce remained bitter and angry with John up until he died it seems.
Ok, Whoever said this doesn't have their facts straight. John & Joyce were VERY good friends until John's death. John & Suzanne didn't speak to each other until about 2 years before John passed away.
Anyways, what does this have to do with the original topic? In responce to the original topic, yes, I would like to see the actors doing some comentaries.
Edster2973 11-24-2004, 03:34 PM Originally posted by Mrs. Jack Tripper
Ok, Whoever said this doesn't have their facts straight. John & Joyce were VERY good friends until John's death. John & Suzanne didn't speak to each other until about 2 years before John passed away.
I am the one who wrote the sentence you're referring to, and you've taken it out of context. I wrote that to balance out the animosity towards Suzanne. Someone posted of their dislike of Suzanne for something she did over 24 years ago. They said they didn't want someone with her 'values' doing commentaries. I responded that the whole cast at one point or other were less than saintly and used the series finale as an example to demonstrate that. It is a FACT that Joyce felt betrayed by the Three's Company crew and by John with how the show ended. End of story.
Given how this person ASSUMED that Suzanne had not made attempts to apologize for her behaviour, I made (on purpose!) an equally untrue statement that Joyce was still bitter with John over how the show ended. Of course this isn't true; I was merely showing how ludicrous this person's argument was for disliking Suzanne. That's why I wrote 'it seems' after the statement that Joyce was still bitter with John. Things aren't always what they appear to be, but it's ok to assume the worst when it comes to Suzanne. That's hardly fair, is it?
In a later post, I also established that Joyce & John also were quite friendly and had seen a show together about 2 months before he died.
Originally posted by Mrs. Jack Tripper
Anyways, what does this have to do with the original topic?
A lot actually, if you read through the posts. Snipping one or two sentences without reading everything else is what's causing the confusion. I said that Suzanne should be let in on the commentaries, which brought about a response from one who said, basically, that she wasn't worthy to be included. Hence my comparison with John & Joyce. If you actually go back and read everything, it'll make sense. You'll see that I indeed do have my FACTS STRAIGHT. No one is making up stuff about John & Joyce, especially me.
My actual point is that, if one has to be almost saintly to be 'worthy' of doing commentaries, then NONE of the cast would be included.
Originally posted by Mrs. Jack Tripper
In responce to the original topic, yes, I would like to see the actors doing some comentaries.
As would I, pal, as would I. If not Suzanne, then at least Joyce & Priscilla (although it'd be more appropriate for Priscilla to be involved during the years she actually starred). There's one more full year to go for Suzanne to do commentaries (I doubt she'd be interested in Season 5, for obvious reasons). Hopefully she'll be allowed to. I also hope Don Knotts gets in on a commentary or two before he passes away. He's a legend himself and it'd be nice to hear his thoughts on his experience after all of these years.
Ed
LuLu Rogers 11-24-2004, 06:37 PM Originally posted by Edster2973
I am the one who wrote the sentence you're referring to, and you've taken it out of context. I wrote that to balance out the animosity towards Suzanne. Someone posted of their dislike of Suzanne for something she did over 24 years ago. They said they didn't want someone with her 'values' doing commentaries. I responded that the whole cast at one point or other were less than saintly and used the series finale as an example to demonstrate that. It is a FACT that Joyce felt betrayed by the Three's Company crew and by John with how the show ended. End of story.
Given how this person ASSUMED that Suzanne had not made attempts to apologize for her behaviour, I made (on purpose!) an equally untrue statement that Joyce was still bitter with John over how the show ended. Of course this isn't true; I was merely showing how ludicrous this person's argument was for disliking Suzanne. That's why I wrote 'it seems' after the statement that Joyce was still bitter with John. Things aren't always what they appear to be, but it's ok to assume the worst when it comes to Suzanne. That's hardly fair, is it?
In a later post, I also established that Joyce & John also were quite friendly and had seen a show together about 2 months before he died.
A lot actually, if you read through the posts. Snipping one or two sentences without reading everything else is what's causing the confusion. I said that Suzanne should be let in on the commentaries, which brought about a response from one who said, basically, that she wasn't worthy to be included. Hence my comparison with John & Joyce. If you actually go back and read everything, it'll make sense. You'll see that I indeed do have my FACTS STRAIGHT. No one is making up stuff about John & Joyce, especially me.
My actual point is that, if one has to be almost saintly to be 'worthy' of doing commentaries, then NONE of the cast would be included.
As would I, pal, as would I. If not Suzanne, then at least Joyce & Priscilla (although it'd be more appropriate for Priscilla to be involved during the years she actually starred). There's one more full year to go for Suzanne to do commentaries (I doubt she'd be interested in Season 5, for obvious reasons). Hopefully she'll be allowed to. I also hope Don Knotts gets in on a commentary or two before he passes away. He's a legend himself and it'd be nice to hear his thoughts on his experience after all of these years.
Ed
OOOOOOHH! I understand now! I'm sorry! I see now that you were just trying to make a point about Suzanne! My bad! :D LOL!
-Mrs. J
Edster2973 11-24-2004, 07:18 PM Originally posted by Mrs. Jack Tripper
OOOOOOHH! I understand now! I'm sorry! I see now that you were just trying to make a point about Suzanne! My bad! :D LOL!
-Mrs. J
No problemo Mrs. J. Glad to clear up any confusion.
Happy Thanksgiving one and all!
Ed :)
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