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bronxgirl
11-09-2004, 06:44 PM
Druggists refuse to give out pill

Tue Nov 9, 6:54 AM ET

By Charisse Jones, USA TODAY

For a year, Julee Lacey stopped in a CVS pharmacy near her home in a Fort Worth suburb to get refills of her birth-control pills. Then one day last March, the pharmacist refused to fill Lacey's prescription because she did not believe in birth control.

I was shocked," says Lacey, 33, who was not able to get her prescription until the next day and missed taking one of her pills. "Their job is not to regulate what people take or do. It's just to fill the prescription that was ordered by my physician."


Some pharmacists, however, disagree and refuse on moral grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives. And states from Rhode Island to Washington have proposed laws that would protect such decisions.


Mississippi enacted a sweeping statute that went into effect in July that allows health care providers, including pharmacists, to not participate in procedures that go against their conscience. South Dakota and Arkansas already had laws that protect a pharmacist's right to refuse to dispense medicines. Ten other states considered similar bills this year.


The American Pharmacists Association, with 50,000 members, has a policy that says druggists can refuse to fill prescriptions if they object on moral grounds, but they must make arrangements so a patient can still get the pills. Yet some pharmacists have refused to hand the prescription to another druggist to fill.


In Madison, Wis., a pharmacist faces possible disciplinary action by the state pharmacy board for refusing to transfer a woman's prescription for birth-control pills to another druggist or to give the slip back to her. He would not refill it because of his religious views.


Some advocates for women's reproductive rights are worried that such actions by pharmacists and legislatures are gaining momentum.


The U.S. House of Representatives passed a provision in September that would block federal funds from local, state and federal authorities if they make health care workers perform, pay for or make referrals for abortions.


"We have always understood that the battles about abortion were just the tip of a larger ideological iceberg, and that it's really birth control that they're after also," says Gloria Feldt, president of Planned Parenthood (news - web sites) Federation of America.


"The explosion in the number of legislative initiatives and the number of individuals who are just saying, 'We're not going to fill that prescription for you because we don't believe in it' is astonishing," she said.


Pharmacists have moved to the front of the debate because of such drugs as the "morning-after" pill, which is emergency contraception that can prevent fertilization if taken within 120 hours of unprotected intercourse.


While some pharmacists cite religious reasons for opposing birth control, others believe life begins with fertilization and see hormonal contraceptives, and the morning-after pill in particular, as capable of causing an abortion.


"I refuse to dispense a drug with a significant mechanism to stop human life," says Karen Brauer, president of the 1,500-member Pharmacists for Life International. Brauer was fired in 1996 after she refused to refill a prescription for birth-control pills at a Kmart in the Cincinnati suburb of Delhi Township.


Lacey, of North Richland Hills, Texas, filed a complaint with the Texas Board of Pharmacy after her prescription was refused in March. In February, another Texas pharmacist at an Eckerd drug store in Denton wouldn't give contraceptives to a woman who was said to be a rape victim.


In the Madison case, pharmacist Neil Noesen, 30, after refusing to refill a birth-control prescription, did not transfer it to another pharmacist or return it to the woman. She was able to get her prescription refilled two days later at the same pharmacy, but she missed a pill because of the delay.


She filed a complaint after the incident occurred in the summer of 2002 in Menomonie, Wis. Christopher Klein, spokesman for Wisconsin's Department of Regulation and Licensing, says the issue is that Noesen didn't transfer or return the prescription. A hearing was held in October. The most severe punishment would be revoking Noesen's pharmacist license, but Klein says that is unlikely.


Susan Winckler, spokeswoman and staff counsel for the American Pharmacists Association, says it is rare that pharmacists refuse to fill a prescription for moral reasons. She says it is even less common for a pharmacist to refuse to provide a referral.





"The reality is every one of those instances is one too many," Winckler says. "Our policy supports stepping away but not obstructing."

In the 1970s, because of abortion and sterilization, some states adopted refusal clauses to allow certain health care professionals to opt out of providing those services. The issue re-emerged in the 1990s, says Adam Sonfield of the Alan Guttmacher Institute, which researches reproductive issues.

Sonfield says medical workers, insurers and employers increasingly want the right to refuse certain services because of medical developments, such as the "morning-after" pill, embryonic stem-cell research and assisted suicide.

"The more health care items you have that people feel are controversial, some people are going to object and want to opt out of being a part of that," he says.

In Wisconsin, a petition drive is underway to revive a proposed law that would protect pharmacists who refuse to prescribe drugs they believe could cause an abortion or be used for assisted suicide.

"It just recognizes that pharmacists should not be forced to choose between their consciences and their livelihoods," says Matt Sande of Pro-Life Wisconsin. "They should not be compelled to become parties to abortion."

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This is outrageous. I am prescribed the pill for a medical condition. And to think that I can be denied this because the Pharmacist have a "problem with it" and they are legally withen thier right to to do so. is insulting to me and for every female out there. What's next someone can be denied heart medication because someone believe in faith healing instead?

Chambers
11-09-2004, 06:53 PM
oh. my. god.

¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
11-09-2004, 07:03 PM
Thats so stupid. Women dont take it just for birth control.. it also regulates our periods. Id rather take the pill and not have any kids, then be off of it and get knocked up and have 20 kids. Honestly. As for the morning after pill.. well, Im not totally against it, but honestly.. you can keep your damn legs closed for one night.

Hollow
11-09-2004, 07:03 PM
What a dumb ass p--sy. giving people the drugs they request is that stupid bitch's job.

MaryElizabeth
11-09-2004, 07:37 PM
These "beliefs" are full of so many double standards but I won't go into that.

I'm outraged. I know of some people that are religious fanatics who don't believe in any form of birth control for any reason. Needless to say, I can't stand those people, for they used to be my friends until they lost their minds.

I too, have a medical condition. If I didn't take hormonal contraceptives, my chances of having kids later on in life would be jeopardized. I'm on them for preventative health measures.

Last time I checked, a pharmacist is a person who fills prescriptions, gives you the medicine you need, and keeps their pie hole shut. They aren't anyone's physician. They don't write the damn prescriptions. And they certainly aren't there to enforce their personal bull**** beliefs.

A doctor doesn't go to school for years to take care of their patients, and to prescribe them the medicines they need, only for a pharmacist to override their decisions.

I think too many people are confusing morals, and/or religious beliefs with ignorance.

This is what fanaticism does I guess.

Chambers
11-09-2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by MaryElizabeth


I think too many people are confusing morals, and/or religious beliefs with ignorance.

This is what fanaticism does I guess.

:nod:

bronxgirl
11-09-2004, 08:15 PM
Exactly, I use it to keep my hormones balanced. I started to have problems with my menstral cycle when I got out of High School, and it took years for me to get a diagnoises for it I have i Poly Cystics Ovaries meaning I produce more testostoerone than estrogen. The doctors told me I may or may not have problems to conceive (If I SO Choose To One Day) but still. People don't realize that there are so many medications that are out there on the market that were invented for one illness but can be used for so many other illnesses.

It's like Pavlov's Dog they hear one thing, without understanding that there is more to it . These same people who approved this can very well affect someone they know. I never even heard of this condition until it happened to me only to find out that a lot of women have this what I have. Now I have to worry about someone dictating my healthcare.

MaryElizabeth
11-09-2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by bronxgirl
Exactly, I use it to keep my hormones balanced. I started to have problems with my menstral cycle when I got out of High School, and it took years for me to get a diagnoises for it I have i Poly Cystics Ovaries meaning I produce more testostoerone than estrogen. The doctors told me I may or may not have problems to conceive (If I SO Choose To One Day) but still. People don't realize that there are so many medications that are out there on the market that were invented for one illness but can be used for so many other illnesses.

It's like Pavlov's Dog they hear one thing, without understanding that there is more to it . These same people who approved this can very well affect someone they know. I never even heard of this condition until it happened to me only to find out that a lot of women have this what I have. Now I have to worry about someone dictating my healthcare. I have Endometriosis pretty bad. I didn't know what the heck it was really, until it they found it in my first surgery. I started having problems with chronic lower abdominal pain when I was the ripe age of 14.

Am I supposed to be ashamed for being administered birth control for medicinal reasons? Why the hell should I be?

Should sexually active females feel embarrassed or ashamed for taking birth control? I don't think so. It's nobody's business really, but their doctors'.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
11-09-2004, 10:18 PM
Well if you're going to be a pharmacist, you should recognize that people are going to want certain kinds of medicine. If you have moral issues with it, then don't be an effing pharmacist.

TheGreatPretender
11-09-2004, 10:22 PM
Wow what a dumb**** that "pharmacist" is.

MissZero
11-09-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by AllIWantIsYourClutch
Well if you're going to be a pharmacist, you should recognize that people are going to want certain kinds of medicine. If you have moral issues with it, then don't be an effing pharmacist.


For real!

TheHappyBurgerMeister
11-09-2004, 10:32 PM
That woman should NOT be mixing her beliefs with her job! I don't believe in abortion, but there is nothing wrong with birth control! I mean these people that don't believe in it if they keep having sex they could have like 20 or 30 kids!! It has to stop somewhere!

crystals
11-10-2004, 12:15 AM
I can't believe that pharmacist. A woman should have the right to have an abortion or take a birth control pill if she has been raped or any other reason. I hate that some people cram their religious beliefs down other people's throats. A woman should be able to have the freedom to choose. I also agree that the woman should not be mixing her beliefs with her job. Imagine if other people in jobs like dentistry didn't believe in painkillers? Okay, I know it's not the same thing, but you know, it's still like violating a patient's rights.

Rebel Queen 1980
11-10-2004, 12:43 AM
That's bullsh*t!,I'd sue their asses if I were her!

spunkygirl
11-10-2004, 02:48 AM
ohno: I guess that pharmacist would rather see some women(not all) get knocked up with 10 kids :rolleyes: and my cousin takes it to regulate her period too :(

TJL
11-10-2004, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by AllIWantIsYourClutch
Well if you're going to be a pharmacist, you should recognize that people are going to want certain kinds of medicine. If you have moral issues with it, then don't be an effing pharmacist.

:yeahthat

Moonlight Lady
11-10-2004, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by bronxgirl
Druggists refuse to give out pill

Tue Nov 9, 6:54 AM ET

By Charisse Jones, USA TODAY

For a year, Julee Lacey stopped in a CVS pharmacy near her home in a Fort Worth suburb to get refills of her birth-control pills. Then one day last March, the pharmacist refused to fill Lacey's prescription because she did not believe in birth control.

I was shocked," says Lacey, 33, who was not able to get her prescription until the next day and missed taking one of her pills. "Their job is not to regulate what people take or do. It's just to fill the prescription that was ordered by my physician."


Some pharmacists, however, disagree and refuse on moral grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives. And states from Rhode Island to Washington have proposed laws that would protect such decisions. ...




These people are full of crap. They should not have a right to deny prescribed medications. They need to mind their own business. I don't think they should be forcing their religious beliefs on customers.

Kitt
11-10-2004, 11:25 AM
All right SO members! Voicing a groundswell of dissent! .:) :wave::winkgrin