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LuV2DreeM
11-08-2004, 12:37 PM
Here it is from tv.zap2it
ABC won at 8 p.m. with the 11.9/18 for "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," which ate into the audience for CBS' "Cold Case," knocking the procedural drama to an 11.4/17, down dramatically in its second half-hour. FOX was third with "The Simpsons" "Treehouse of Horrors" episode (6.2/9) and the slightly improved launch for "Arrested Development" (4.6/7), which combined to put NBC's "American Dreams" into fourth. The first hour of "Fellowship of the Ring" did a 2.9/4 on The WB.

All I know is last week I slept really good. We had climbed back up to 7 million viewers. I thought the bottom had been reached and we were set for a huge rebound.

All I know now is we got somewhere between 4 and 7 million. I don't know where. I don't want to guess.
Does anyone know how to get the numbers?

Peace.

Trish Marie
11-08-2004, 03:46 PM
American Dreams is the first really good/wholsome show we have had on Sunday nights since the likes of Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color and Bonanza.

Maybe too many people just cannot deal with "innocent" TV anymore.

Trish

tvfan0101
11-08-2004, 05:19 PM
Here are the fast affiliate ratings from Mediaweek, which are different from the Zap2it fast nationals:

On NBC, it's obvious at this point that drama American Dreams (#4: 5.6/ 8; A18-49: #4, 2.4/ 5) will never find a large audience, while part one of theatrical, The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring, on the WB averaged a modest 3.8/ 5 in the overnights, 4.41 million viewers and a 1.7/ 4 among adults 18-49 from 8-10 p.m.

Going back a few weeks with Mediaweek's ratings:

November 7th - 5.6/8; A18-49: 2.4/5
October 31st - 5.3/8; A18-49: 2.4/6
October 24th - 4.2/6; A18-49: 2.2/5
October 17th - 5.1/7; A18-49: 2.1/5

So, it looks like we have hit our best fast affiliates rating in a month. I realize these numbers mean very little so, straight from NBC, here are the total viewership numbers for the third season to date, starting with the season premiere:

VIEWERS - DATE

8,700,000 - September 26th
7,500,000 - October 3rd
7,000,000 - October 10th
6,400,000 - October 17th
6,600,000 - October 24th
7,000,000 - October 31st
7,600,000 - November 7th

Last night's numbers will be revised tomorrow and may go up or down, but for the other weeks, the numbers shown are the "in-home viewing figures from Nielsen Media Research."

abcdef
11-08-2004, 05:27 PM
NBC was pleased with how it did, this is from NBC's ratings release this morning.

At 9 p.m. ET last night, "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" (4.2/9 in 18-49, 11.5 million viewers overall) built on its 18-49 lead-in by 68 percent to match its highest rating in four weeks.

At 8 p.m. ET, "American Dreams" (2.5/6 in 18-49, 7.6 million viewers overall) improved on its 18-49 lead-in by 9 percent to hit its highest 18-49 numbers and largest total viewership since premiere week.

From 7-8 p.m. ET, "Dateline NBC" (2.3/6 in 18-49, 8.0 million viewers overall) matched its highest Sunday 18-49 rating since May 23. In total viewers, it was the most-watched Sunday "Dateline" since Oct. 3.

Preliminary 18-49 averages for Sunday night are: ABC 7.4/18; CBS, 4.3/10; NBC, 3.6/8; Fox, 3.5/8; WB, 1.5 /4. Among total viewers, preliminary Nov. 7 averages are: ABC, 17.6 million; CBS, 15.8 million; NBC, 10.3 million; Fox, 7.5 million; WB, 3.9 million.

LuV2DreeM
11-08-2004, 08:12 PM
It's great to know the "quick" numbers can be misleading..........I'm sleeping this Sunday!
So we didn't go below 6 million, which I feared............WHEEEEEEEEEEEW!

Peace.

LuV2DreeM
11-09-2004, 09:17 PM
As far as "wholesome" shows.......I have one for you.
How about "My Three Sons"?

I just LOVE that show. That would be a great show to bring back......or sell on dvd.

Anyone know if it's on sale on dvd?

Peace.

Trish Marie
11-09-2004, 10:55 PM
Yes!

My Three Sons rocked!

I loved that show...

I think it was on Nick At Night or some channel like that for a while.... I don't recieve those stations...


Trish


:)

LuV2DreeM
11-10-2004, 11:54 AM
Yes, "rocked" is a great way to describe "My Three Sons".

Okay, I've got another:
"Leave it to Beaver".

Ya gotta luv the "Beev"......huh?

Peace.

Storywriter
11-10-2004, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Trish Marie
Yes!

My Three Sons rocked!

I loved that show...

I think it was on Nick At Night or some channel like that for a while.... I don't recieve those stations...


Trish


:) I never liked that show really......I still don't........and the other you said bonanza something I never heard of it......

I like to watch reruns of other shows like Family Ties,The Facts Of life etcetra...Mel :)

LuV2DreeM
11-10-2004, 09:17 PM
Bonanza was a western. Filmed near Lake Tahoe. It had Ben Cartwright, Little Joe, Hoss, Candy, Hop Sing and assorted other cowboy types.

Is probably considered a classic. You can visit the silver country up in that area and see Bonanza memorabilia. It is worth seeing on a trip to the Lake Tahoe area.
Great scenery of that area on the tv shows of Bonanza.

Peace.

Trish Marie
11-11-2004, 04:04 AM
Oh yeah, Leave It To Beaver...

Many don't care for that show as they say it was just so unrealisitic... Perhaps, but I loved that one too. As a matter of fact, the Cleaver house has new residents.

Look no further then Desperate Housewives on KABC Sunday nights. The home of the narrator of the show, a woman who "done herself in" is none other then the Beaver's house, and also the former residence of Marcus Welby M.D....

That whole street is on the Universal Backlot and has more history then you can shake a stick at.

And unfortunately regarding Bonanza, The Ponderosa Ranch in Incline Village Nevada was closed a month or two back and the property was sold to I think some rich guy who plans to build his home on the land. So no more visits to the Ponderosa by the public..

Bummer...

Trish

LuV2DreeM
11-12-2004, 12:49 PM
No more Ponderosa?

Unbelievable! I guess anything can be bought.

Glad I got to see it before that.

Peace.

alumnagirl
11-14-2004, 03:29 PM
Guys, I have a feeling that tonight's episode (Nov. 14) isn't going to have a large audience. As of this morning, NBC still plans to air the show, despite the AMAs airing tonight.

Trish Marie
11-14-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by LuV2DreeM
No more Ponderosa?

Unbelievable! I guess anything can be bought.

Glad I got to see it before that.

Peace.

I was lucky enough to visit the Ponderosa also.... I won't tell you how long ago though...

I even got one of those fake newspapers printed up with a headline that said:

Trish to star in Bonanza

Heh heh, corny but I love it.

As for the AMA's, it appears that American Dreams will always face a newer, "hipper" challenge.

Trish

LuV2DreeM
11-15-2004, 09:53 AM
We can go to tv.zap2it.com to see if our peeps watched last night.

Peace.

alumnagirl
11-15-2004, 12:51 PM
From zap2it website:

CBS moved into first for the night's second hour, as "Cold Case" posted an 11.7/17. ABC was second with the first hour of the American Music Awards. NBC's "American Dreams" (5.5/8) tied with FOX's season premiere of "The Simpsons" (6.6/10) and the season's second new "Arrested Development" (4.5/7) for third. On The WB, "Charmed" did a 2.5/4.

razzamatazz
11-16-2004, 03:10 AM
From Mediaweek:

Earlier in the evening, NBC’s Dateline (#4: 5.4/ 9; A18-49: #4, 2.1/ 5) and American Dreams (#4: 5.9/ 8; A18-49: #4, 3.1/ 7) were typically lackluster from 7-9 p.m.

Looks like it went up on both counts from what mediaweek had for last weeks episode and a pretty significant improvement on the 18-49 demographic.

Of course having said that I don't know much about the way NBC works - whether or not it's really a "demo" network in the way that the WB and UPN are - still 18-49 is the magic demographic to TV people or seems to be - not sure why lol.

tvfan0101
11-16-2004, 03:56 PM
NBC has finally released its numbers for the week and the news for American Dreams is fantastic:

At 8 p.m. ET, "American Dreams" (3.1/7 in 18-49, 8.6 million viewers overall) hit season-high numbers in adults 18-49 and total viewers. "Dreams" was up 29 percent versus last week (3.1 vs. 2.4), 7 percent versus the same night last year (3.1 vs. 2.9) and 48 percent versus its lead-in (3.1 vs. 2.1).

So, not only did we see growth over last week's episode by almost 30% but we also saw growth of 7% over last year. I have edited my Season Three viewers chart to include this episode and the revised information for the season premiere. I have also added the adults 18-49 for the premiere and this latest episode:


8,600,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
7,500,000 - October 3rd, 2004
7,000,000 - October 10th, 2004
6,400,000 - October 17th, 2004
6,600,000 - October 24th, 2004
7,000,000 - October 31st, 2004
7,600,000 - November 7th, 2004
8,600,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]


The real test will be in the next few episodes after the current storyline is wrapped up (or so I am assuming, I honestly am not sure).

LuV2DreeM
11-17-2004, 04:48 AM
Thanks tvobscurities.......looks like we are on a roll and I am sleeping better and better with each week!

Looks like it's time for us to keep setting better and better records!!!!!

Yeah!

Peace.

tvfan0101
11-23-2004, 04:06 PM
"Tidings..." pulled in more viewers than last week, for a season high number. Straight from NBC:

At 8 p.m. ET, "American Dreams" (2.8/7 in 18-49, 8.8 million viewers overall) delivered its second-highest 18-49 rating since premiere week and hit a season high in total viewers with a commercial-free episode sponsored by Ford. "Dreams" built on its 18-49 lead-in by 22 percent.

And the ratings for this season to date are:


8,600,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
7,500,000 - October 3rd, 2004
7,000,000 - October 10th, 2004
6,400,000 - October 17th, 2004
6,600,000 - October 24th, 2004
7,000,000 - October 31st, 2004
7,600,000 - November 7th, 2004
8,600,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
8,800,000 - November 21st, 2004 [A18049: 2.8/7]


Another increase is good. The real test will come in January. If the ratings go down after six weeks without episodes (which they tend to do) it may not bode well for another season.

tvfan0101
01-03-2005, 10:16 PM
The ratings for "Home Again" are in and they are quite good, considering the circumstances. After six weeks without airing a new episode or a repeat, the series only dropped 300,000 viewers. From NBC:

At 8 p.m. ET, "American Dreams" (2.6/6 in 18-49, 8.3 million viewers overall) earned its third highest 18-49 rating and total viewership since premiere week.

It looks like the show has rebounded well. The viewer numbers for Season Three thus far:

8,600,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
7,500,000 - October 3rd, 2004
7,000,000 - October 10th, 2004
6,400,000 - October 17th, 2004
6,600,000 - October 24th, 2004
7,000,000 - October 31st, 2004
7,600,000 - November 7th, 2004
8,600,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
8,800,000 - November 21st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.8/7]
8,300,000 - January 2nd, 2005 [A18-49: 2.6/6]


"Home Again" aired opposite mostly repeats, however, so the next episode may see a drop. Let us hope not.

stepperry
01-04-2005, 03:32 AM
I excepted that there might bit of a dorpoff in viwers for two reason one being there had been 6 weeks since any AD and two it was show after JJ's dramatic homecoming. I also except that the wedding show in three now two weeks will get huge ratings maybe the highest of the season.

LuV2DreeM
01-04-2005, 02:58 PM
I think everyone's numbers were a bit inflated due to the "holiday effect". That would put us near 7 million.........not a good sign.
And this coming week we go against our usual foes - Cold Case and Home Improvement - AND the season premiere for 24.......not a good sign.

Peace.

tvfan0101
01-11-2005, 07:34 PM
A big drop for this Sunday's episode, a big drop. The lowest number for the series since October 2004:

At 8 p.m. ET, "American Dreams" delivered a 2.2/5 in 18-49 and 7.0 million viewers overall.

The chart:

8,600,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
7,500,000 - October 3rd, 2004
7,000,000 - October 10th, 2004
6,400,000 - October 17th, 2004
6,600,000 - October 24th, 2004
7,000,000 - October 31st, 2004
7,600,000 - November 7th, 2004
8,600,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
8,800,000 - November 21st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.8/7]
8,300,000 - January 2nd, 2005 [A18-49: 2.6/6]
7,000,000 - January 9th, 2005 [A18-49: 2.2/5]

LuV2DreeM
01-11-2005, 09:32 PM
I agree, not good news. But at least there are respectable numbers in the 18 - 49 year old group.
I guess next week we are not on.

How many episodes are left from the 19?

Maybe it's time for Jeff Zucker to step up and tell us how much he likes the show...............again.

Peace.

Missstudnicka
01-11-2005, 09:47 PM
Hi, I'm new to the board, but have read for a long time. I love American Dreams and was so happy when I found this message board. I am a HUGE fan of Beth and JJ and I can't wait until the wedding.

I think I read some where that there are 8 episodes left, but I'm not sure...


I can't wait until the next episode!!!! :p

Storywriter
01-11-2005, 10:06 PM
Hi, I'm new to the board, but have read for a long time. I love American Dreams and was so happy when I found this message board. I am a HUGE fan of Beth and JJ and I can't wait until the wedding.

I think I read some where that there are 8 episodes left, but I'm not sure...


I can't wait until the next episode!!!! :p
Well AD is having a full Season of 19 Episodes.I'm not sure how many were shown so far but I think there's a little more then 8 more but I'm just guessing.This is by far one of the best AD boards I have been to and you will enjoy as long as you ignore something posted here you don't like.Other then that Great board great people.

I rejoined January 29th 2004 when I got a brand new computer so I'll be here a year very soon..Welcome to the board.Mel :wave:

LuV2DreeM
01-15-2005, 02:33 PM
My friend told me a "full" season is 22 or 23 episodes...........not 19.

Hopefully "they" will fulfill their comitment to 19.........guess we will find out in the weeks to come.

Peace.

LuV2DreeM
01-18-2005, 10:13 PM
This from zap2it.com

"ABC took over at 8 p.m. with a second episode of "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," 11.4/17. The first hour of the Globes took NBC to second place, while "60 Minutes" gave CBS third, 10.5/15. "The Simpsons," 4.9/7, and "Arrested Development," 3.4/5, gave FOX its best hour of the night, while "Charmed," 2.3/3, did the same for The WB."

So it looks like NBC pulled in about 16 million for our hour.
You have to do what you have to do in Hollywood.......at least they got viewership for the awards show.

Where does that leave AD for next week? Anyone here see any commercials about AD coming on next Sunday with a new episode during the Golden Globes?
I didn't.
We might have missed a prime opportunity to let 16 million people in on our show.

Peace.

Storywriter
01-19-2005, 01:11 AM
I didn't watch the awards shows I find them all boring.I heard on the radio today this year the golden globes had its lowest rating ever.The Desperate Housewives fans didn't give up there show for the GG I sure didn't.

Also its only Wednesday so I'm not worried about this weekend yet.I'm not going to worry.I'm not going to loose sleep over tv shows. :cool:

tvfan0101
01-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Regarding last night's episode:

Football gave CBS a 23.7/33 in its second hour, as ABC moved up with a
10.7/15 for "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." NBC was third with
"American Dreams." FOX was fourth again with "The Simpsons" (4.8/7)
and "Arrested Development" (3.4/5). The WB was fifth with the 2.2/3
for "Charmed."

Football pulled a huge audience on CBS and ABC did pretty well, which leaves only so many viewers for the other networks. When NBC releases the ratings information we shall see the episode did.

EDIT: Info from Zap2it

ADrules
01-25-2005, 02:46 PM
NBC released the numbers, its 7.4 million viewers for this week. They basicly said it was strong given the football competition.

tvfan0101
01-25-2005, 03:19 PM
Indeed. Not exactly the numbers we saw back in November, but a solid rise from the last new episode. Hitting eight million was incredible, but staying above seven million is not too shabby.

8,600,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
7,500,000 - October 3rd, 2004
7,000,000 - October 10th, 2004
6,400,000 - October 17th, 2004
6,600,000 - October 24th, 2004
7,000,000 - October 31st, 2004
7,600,000 - November 7th, 2004
8,600,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
8,800,000 - November 21st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.8/7]
8,300,000 - January 2nd, 2005 [A18-49: 2.6/6]
7,000,000 - January 9th, 2005 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
7,400,000 - January 23rd, 2005 [A18-48: 2.2/4]

LuV2DreeM
01-29-2005, 11:20 AM
Now I'm confused.

I read in some of these other posts that people have contacted TV Guide about our show and NBC would not tell if there are 17 or 19 episodes this season.
And someone else read at IMDB that a lady says "that's it for American Dreams".

I noticed that per "tv obscurities" posts that the VERY important 18-49 age group has fallen from 7 million in mid November to 4 million last week.

I've read we are OFF for the whole month of Feb. during sweeps.....and networks don't pull shows off that are doing well..........do they?

Does that mean they may film 4 more episodes (14-17) but possibly cancel AD and never get them to the air?.......or am I just being paranoid......as my husband suggests?

What's your spin on this "tv obscurities"?

Peace.

stepperry
01-29-2005, 03:23 PM
Indeed. Not exactly the numbers we saw back in November, but a solid rise from the last new episode. Hitting eight million was incredible, but staying above seven million is not too shabby.
I thought the ratings would have higher than they were. The reasonI thought the ratings would be higher was simply because Beth and JJ were getting married. I blame the low ratings on NBC because do not have enough promotion. What does everyone think?

tvfan0101
01-29-2005, 05:43 PM
What's your spin on this "tv obscurities"?

Well, I do not think it is particularly good. Pulling the show could mean a number of things. It could simply mean NBC has only ordered 19 episodes but wants the show to air until the end of the season. The only way to accomplish that would be to pre-empt it and to pre-empt it often.

Or it could mean NBC has a lot of special programming planned for the February sweeps and needs to find time to air it all, which means pulling other shows.

Really, at this point, there is no way of knowing what the future holds for the series. I will point out, however, that your intepretation of the A18-49 ratings is incorrect. The show is not down from 7 million to 4 million. It is down from 7% of television sets in use to 4% of television sets in use, in the A18-49 age group. However, it is still a drop.

I doubt NBC will leave any episodes unaired. However many episodes the network orders, I think it will air them all.

I thought the ratings would have higher than they were. The reasonI thought the ratings would be higher was simply because Beth and JJ were getting married. I blame the low ratings on NBC because do not have enough promotion. What does everyone think?

I was hoping for a larger number of viewers for the wedding episode, but at least it was a jump from the previous week. There is only so much promotion a network can provide for a show - but in this case I think NBC dropped the ball. The wedding episode could have become a February sweeps "special" episode, and the network could have offered a lot more promotion

LuV2DreeM
01-29-2005, 06:05 PM
I stand corrected........I don't really know that much about the "industry" and appreciate your input immensely.
I'm just a frazzled woman ISO understanding as the "ship sinks". And hoping it's not sinking.....but fearing it is.

Peace.

Storywriter
01-30-2005, 09:34 AM
What's happening is this February is coming up and you have The Super bowl,The Oscars, and Grammy's coming up this month.Desperate Houswives is being affected too and 30 million people watch that.I think people are being paranoid and its's not good getting paranoid over a show because it makes it look as if the show is your life and I know outside this site and the tv you all have lives.

I love the show but I'm not going to get all paranoid over it.If people don't think I'm real fan of AD because I don't get paranoid well they can but their dead wrong.I love the show but I'm not stressing or getting frazzled over it

Take care.

Pavan
01-30-2005, 12:06 PM
8,600,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
7,500,000 - October 3rd, 2004
7,000,000 - October 10th, 2004
6,400,000 - October 17th, 2004
6,600,000 - October 24th, 2004
7,000,000 - October 31st, 2004
7,600,000 - November 7th, 2004
8,600,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
8,800,000 - November 21st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.8/7]
8,300,000 - January 2nd, 2005 [A18-49: 2.6/6]
7,000,000 - January 9th, 2005 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
7,400,000 - January 23rd, 2005 [A18-48: 2.2/4]


These are the actual final ratings:

5.5/9 8.61 million - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
4.9/8 7.49 million - October 3rd, 2004 [A18-49: 2.4/6]
4.5/7 7.04 million - October 10th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.4/6]
4.3/7 6.36 million - October 17th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
4.1/6 6.61 million - October 24th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
4.5/7 7.05 million - October 31st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.3/6]
5.1/7 7.49 million - November 7th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.4/5]
5.5/8 8.64 million - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
5.4/7 8.82 million - November 21st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.8/7]
5.0/8 8.25 million - January 2nd, 2005 [A18-49: 2.6/6]
4.4/7 6.99 million - January 9th, 2005 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
4.8/7 7.38 million - January 23rd, 2005 [A18-48: 2.2/4]

The ones above a 5 rating would be good for Fridays. The ones below that are just unacceptable for any night, well, maybe except for Saturday.

LuV2DreeM
01-31-2005, 05:43 PM
The post before this one says:
"The ones above a 5 rating would be good for Fridays. The ones below that are just unacceptable for any night, well, maybe except for Saturday."

What do last night's numbers mean?

Peace.

tvfan0101
01-31-2005, 10:32 PM
We will have to wait until the final ratings are released, but from the Zap2it and Mediaweek numbers, it looks like the show placed 3rd/4th, which is typical.

Biiiiattrixxx
02-01-2005, 02:05 PM
I found the ratigs for last episode....
01/31/05) Overall, CBS won the evening with an 11.2 rating/17 share, easily outdistancing ABC's 8.1/12. NBC was third for the night with a 6.8/10, followed by FOX's 4.0/6. The WB trailed for the evening with a 1.7/3.
Even though CBS easily won the night across the wide audience, adults 18-49 went to ABC by a similarly large margin. ABC took the key demographic with a 5.7 rating, far ahead of second place CBS' 3.8 rating, while NBC's 3.4 and the 3.1 rating for FOX were also in the mix. The WB was in fifth again with a 1.1 rating.

At 8 p.m. CBS got a 10.6/16 from "Cold Case," though ABC picked up some ground with the 9.2/14 for "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." FOX grabbed third with "The Simpsons" (5.7/9) and "Arrested Development" (4.1/6), edging NBC's "American Dreams." The WB got a 2.3/3 from "Charmed."

tvfan0101
02-01-2005, 02:30 PM
Those are the fast nationals/fast affiliates from Zap2it. The final ratings, or at least the rounded viewers, are put on NBC's media village website a few days after the episode has aired. And this Sunday's viewer numbers are in. am simply adding to the chart with the numbers Pav posted, which is more exact. Speaking of which, where did you find those numbers, Pav?


5.5/9 - 8,610,000 - September 26th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.0/8]
4.9/8 - 7,490,000 - October 3rd, 2004 [A18-49: 2.4/6]
4.5/7 - 7,040,000 - October 10th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.4/6]
4.3/7 - 6,360,000 - October 17th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
4.1/6 - 6,610,000 - October 24th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
4.5/7 - 7,050,000 - October 31st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.3/6]
5.1/7 - 7,490,000 - November 7th, 2004 [A18-49: 2.4/5]
5.5/8 - 8,640,000 - November 14th, 2004 [A18-49: 3.1/7]
5.4/7 - 8,820,000 - November 21st, 2004 [A18-49: 2.8/7]
5.0/8 - 8,250,000 - January 2nd, 2005 [A18-49: 2.6/6]
4.4/7 - 6,990,000 - January 9th, 2005 [A18-49: 2.2/5]
4.8/7 - 7,380,000 - January 23rd, 2005 [A18-48: 2.2/4]
----- - 7,200,000 - January 30th, ,2005 [A18-48: 2.5/6]


The final rating will probably be in the 4.6-4.7 range, I suppose. So, a drop in total viewers but a nice jump in A18-49.

If we were holding steady at the eight million point, I think I would be less worried. Dropping below seven million is not good. Not good at all. And even seven million is lower than I would hope.

LuV2DreeM
02-01-2005, 10:09 PM
Your analysis seems right on. Not good news at all.

I guess the only thing we can hope for now is the first step. The "follow through" by NBC to air the last 4 episodes in March.
For some reason I feel those 4 are still "up in the air".

Your input?

Peace.

tvfan0101
02-01-2005, 10:11 PM
If NBC has cut the episode order down already, I doubt they are going to then go ahead and not air any episodes that are produced. I would not be worried about having unaired episodes.

Pavan
02-02-2005, 12:04 AM
Those are the fast nationals/fast affiliates from Zap2it. The final ratings, or at least the rounded viewers, are put on NBC's media village website a few days after the episode has aired. And this Sunday's viewer numbers are in. am simply adding to the chart with the numbers Pav posted, which is more exact. Speaking of which, where did you find those numbers, Pav?

4.8/7 7.22 million - January 30th, 2005 [A18-48: 2.5/6]

Straight from Nielsen's 2+ ratings.

LuV2DreeM
02-02-2005, 05:01 AM
Thanks "pav".......those don't seem that bad.

Peace.

LuV2DreeM
02-03-2005, 06:07 PM
I was just thinking:
We had a little "pop" up in the 18-49 range last ratings........I wonder if NBC takes that into consideration for our renewal possibility.

"tvobscurities"...........whaddya think?

Peace.

LuV2DreeM
02-05-2005, 05:13 AM
Sometimes over the year I've taken a little "heat" from fellow AD fans about talking about ratings.
I just cut and pasted this from a new posting here:

"An American Tragedy?
(02/04/05) In what could be nightmarish news for American Dreams fans, rumors are swirling that NBC has pulled the plug on the acclaimed drama. Not true, insists an NBC spokesman, although he does acknowledge that the ratings-challenged show............"

.........now this is from an NBC spokesman......who calls our show "ratings-challenged"........

Why pick on me when NBC calls our show challenged?

I don't deserve it.

Peace.

Pavan
02-14-2005, 12:26 PM
Just thought everyone would like to know how an encore Law & Order: Criminal Intent did last night in AD's spot, a 6.0/9. Which is better than what any episode of AD did this season.

LuV2DreeM
02-14-2005, 09:36 PM
WOW......I didn't know THAT!
Better than ANY of our shows did this season?

Are you sure of that? I don't have the numbers, I think "tvobscurities" keeps them.....but he/she hasn't posted in awhile.

I can't believe it.......for a rerun?

Peace.

Pavan
02-14-2005, 09:38 PM
WOW......I didn't know THAT!
Better than ANY of our shows did this season?

Are you sure of that? I don't have the numbers, I think "tvobscurities" keeps them.....but he/she hasn't posted in awhile.

I can't believe it.......for a rerun?

Peace.

Look at my post on page three of this thread. AD's highest rating of the season was a 5.5/9

LuV2DreeM
02-15-2005, 02:30 PM
I apologize.......my mistake.

I had forgotten you had the numbers also.

I guess, on the bright side, you could say "at least we tied with 9 million"....although we didn't match the share they got.

Maybe Wednesday nights will fair better for us.

Peace.

LuV2DreeM
02-22-2005, 06:56 PM
Now that I've thought about it more and talked to my husband and the "girls" at my bridge club, I think Wed.'s just might be the answer to our ratings problem.
I'm sure NBC has researched this and figured out what to do.

Time will tell..........I can't wait.

Peace.

Missstudnicka
02-22-2005, 11:18 PM
I think that Wednesdays may help even though there is some tough competition. I just have this wierd feeling that the show will stay on, but maybe it's just optimism. My friend had a dream that it stayed on the air. I hope it will come true!!!!!!I have watched a lot of season 1 and I forgot how good it was!

Storywriter
02-23-2005, 01:10 AM
I know we have competetion with Lost but if that American Idol stays on at 9pm like it has been the last few weeks.We don't have to worry about AI chewing up AD.I'm still very positive about our show.Mel :)

LuV2DreeM
02-23-2005, 08:52 PM
I don't think we have to worry about American Idol anyway.....it's not as good as it used to be. Our show is much better.

Peace.

Storywriter
02-24-2005, 01:09 AM
I don't think we have to worry about American Idol anyway.....it's not as good as it used to be. Our show is much better.

Peace.I agree on that 100%. Mel :cool:

tvfan0101
02-24-2005, 06:59 PM
Whether or no the show is as good as it used to be does not matter. The fact that it continues to bring in massive ratings does.

Storywriter
02-25-2005, 01:12 AM
Whether or no the show is as good as it used to be does not matter. The fact that it continues to bring in massive ratings does.Yeah but I talk to people and AI has lost it's interest .Somebody said that at the hair place and dentist office.Especially after last years game they decided to play with the final 2.Mel :cool:

LuV2DreeM
02-25-2005, 09:25 PM
That would be great...maybe enough people get tired of American Idol and turn over to us!
That would definitely help our ratings.

Peace.