View Full Version : The next all-new Final season 2 part episode "Saving Grace, Again" 11/11-11/18/04


JD2635
11-05-2004, 02:44 PM
Part 1:
Grace comes home from a great date and listens to a staticy message she's received from Leo. Grace hides the message from Will, but when Will learns about it, he decides to take Grace to the Berkshires to get her mind off of Leo. Meanwhile, Karen and Jack try to set each other up.

Part 2:
The group go on a road trip for Grace's get away weekend -- a weekend devoted to not mentioning the name "Leo." Jack and Karen hate the car ride and decide to bail on the plan. Elsewhere, when Jack spots Peter a "sinfully delicious" man who Jack remembers from a cocoa commercial when he was a kid, he recruits him to be the new face of "Out TV," much to the surprise of Rip Taylor who also wants the gig

Let's see this show go down in flames next year when W&G does not get renewed and will leave with That '70s Show, King of the Hill, and Everybody Loves Raymond!:wave: :wave: :wave:

Will & Grace/That '70s Show (1998-2005)
Everybody Loves Raymond (1996-2005)
King of The Hill (1997-2005):happyface :wave: We will all miss you next year!:wave: :wave: :wave:

slackermonkey
11-05-2004, 06:30 PM
Why do you constantly keep reminding people that it's supposed to be the last season when it hasn't been confirmed one way or the other? It's getting annoying.

slackermonkey
11-11-2004, 11:06 PM
I haven't been impressed by this season so far (not that I've been impressed with any season since season 4), and this was no exception.

Do they have to drag up the Leo thing again? No one liked him, no one wants to see him again, so why try to drudge it up when we know he's not going to be reunited with Grace? Unless they're going to be stupid enough to put them back together.

And Jack and Karen... meant to be? Just... ew.

snl75
11-11-2004, 11:15 PM
i really liked this ep i think its the best one this season its the first in a long time that i laughed all the way thorugh an ep. but i hope grace dosent do a dumb thing like going back to leo.

spunkygirl
11-12-2004, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by JD2635
Part 1:
Grace comes home from a great date and listens to a staticy message she's received from Leo. Grace hides the message from Will, but when Will learns about it, he decides to take Grace to the Berkshires to get her mind off of Leo. Meanwhile, Karen and Jack try to set each other up.

Part 2:
The group go on a road trip for Grace's get away weekend -- a weekend devoted to not mentioning the name "Leo." Jack and Karen hate the car ride and decide to bail on the plan. Elsewhere, when Jack spots Peter a "sinfully delicious" man who Jack remembers from a cocoa commercial when he was a kid, he recruits him to be the new face of "Out TV," much to the surprise of Rip Taylor who also wants the gig

Let's see this show go down in flames next year when W&G does not get renewed and will leave with That '70s Show, King of the Hill, and Everybody Loves Raymond!:wave: :wave: :wave:

Will & Grace/That '70s Show (1998-2005)
Everybody Loves Raymond (1996-2005)
King of The Hill (1997-2005):happyface :wave: We will all miss you next year!:wave: :wave: :wave:


:lol: You're really gonna have egg on your face if they decide to go another which is what I'm hearing, cause NBC doesn't have any strong sitcoms for next year, Will and Grace is their strongest right now, and NBC will most likely want it to go another year.

Besides the shows you mentioned aren't even on NBC :rolleyes:

slackermonkey
11-12-2004, 02:19 AM
Actually, "Joey" is their strongest, but "W&G" is very, very close behind.

And yes, the "LOL WILL & GRACE IS ENDING NEXT YEAR OMG R.I.P. W&G 1998-2005" stuff is getting extremely annoying. It's not confirmed, and neither is the stuff about "That's 70s Show" and "King of the Hill."

Janet McFarland
11-12-2004, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
Why do you constantly keep reminding people that it's supposed to be the last season when it hasn't been confirmed one way or the other? It's getting annoying.

:nod: It's getting really annoying.. is he/she even a fan of the show?! :rolleyes:
Anyways.. this episode was hilarious! With Karen "adjusting" Grace's boobs and having sex with a guy in the museum.. classic Karen :lol: They keep on bringing Leo in and I hate him! If Grace is so determined to forget about him, then why was she thinking about meeting him for their anniversary? I hate Leo :rolleyes:

snl75
11-12-2004, 07:05 PM
i cant stand him ether

JD2635
11-17-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Angela Micelli
:lol: You're really gonna have egg on your face if they decide to go another which is what I'm hearing, cause NBC doesn't have any strong sitcoms for next year, Will and Grace is their strongest right now, and NBC will most likely want it to go another year.

Besides the shows you mentioned aren't even on NBC :rolleyes:

Do you like W&G, T70sS, KOTH, and ELR? They are by far the best shows on TV and it would be sad that Ray Romano, Ashton Kutcher, Topher Grace, Debra Messing, Eric McCormack and Mike Judge that their respectful sitcoms would be ending after this year. I mean to be honest with you A. Micelli, as Ashton and Topher would say, it's best to end the show while your still good and not make it wimpy like Drew Carey or Just Shoot Me! But that's IMHO!

slackermonkey
11-17-2004, 06:50 PM
Um, "King of the Hill" is renewed until at least season 10, which would mean it won't end until at least spring of 2007. I don't know where you're getting that it's ending now.

We don't know for a fact that "Will & Grace" will be ending this year. What's going on is that their current contract expires with season 7, and the cast and crew is having talks with NBC to renew the contract beyond season 7. This doesn't mean that, since the contract expires, oh no, "W&G" is canceled! To be honest, it could go either way, but I think "W&G" will be around for at least one more season, since NBC desperately needs another comedy besides "Scrubs" and "Joey."

Moondance
11-17-2004, 07:34 PM
Whatever happened to that rumor about a possible W&G spin-off starring Karen Walker? Was that just a rumor?

JD2635
11-17-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
Um, "King of the Hill" is renewed until at least season 10, which would mean it won't end until at least spring of 2007. I don't know where you're getting that it's ending now.

We don't know for a fact that "Will & Grace" will be ending this year. What's going on is that their current contract expires with season 7, and the cast and crew is having talks with NBC to renew the contract beyond season 7. This doesn't mean that, since the contract expires, oh no, "W&G" is canceled! To be honest, it could go either way, but I think "W&G" will be around for at least one more season, since NBC desperately needs another comedy besides "Scrubs" and "Joey."

Well if they can put That '70s Show on NBC for a 1 year extension since their contract with FOX ends after this season, it would mean that they would really be Sister Shows. Also, if you look at their Imdb.com info, it tentatively says That '70s Show (1998-2005) so it would be so nice That '70s Show moves from FOX to NBC for their last season (2005-06) as with the other Carsey-Werner product, 3rd Rock from the Sun (1996-2001) That way the show can end in 1980 with a bang!:wave: :wave:

Janet McFarland
11-18-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Moondance
Whatever happened to that rumor about a possible W&G spin-off starring Karen Walker? Was that just a rumor?

I heard that too.. and I'd love to see her in a spin-off!

slackermonkey
11-18-2004, 10:36 PM
I'm still not feeling this season. Really, the only episode I thoroughly enjoyed this year is "One Gay at a Time."

Although I have to say the scene of Will and Grace on the rooftop reminded me of the scene from Grace's wedding episode where they went to talk on the roof.

snl75
11-18-2004, 11:28 PM
i liked the ep maybe not as much as some others from past seasons or even this season but still not a bad ep.

JD2635
11-19-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
Um, "King of the Hill" is renewed until at least season 10, which would mean it won't end until at least spring of 2007. I don't know where you're getting that it's ending now.


Where's your proof that KOTH is getting a 10th season? Because of what I heard, the show is currently picked up through this season.

JD2635
11-19-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by snl75
i liked the ep maybe not as much as some others from past seasons or even this season but still not a bad ep.

Hi snl75. I really thought this 2 part epi of W&G is okay but it really is lacking in laughter. On the other hand, this week's That '70s Show episode was hilarious espicially with Red and Kitty going to Eric's Roller Disco bash. I think that the popularity of That '70s Show and Will & Grace is starting to fade but at least when the whole cast of T70sS says bye after this season, you know that they are making a good decision to end the show while the show stays fresh. However for W&G it would also be a good way to end that show by ending after this season so the show stays fresh and it won't suck if they came back for another year don't you agree with me?:D

snl75
11-19-2004, 04:42 PM
i think theres a very good chance that w&g will be back nbc has almost nothing in the comedy dep. besides scrubs and joey and they will pay the big bucks to keep it going for at least one more season its too risky for nbc not to right now in the state they are in as far as that 70s show goes i dont know topher and ashton want to do movies and they have tons of offers but on the other hand fox is suffering so so ratings this season so they might at least hhave to try to get them back to buy themselves some time but i think if they do come back next year i think ashton will only be there on a limited basis tohper i think would do a full season but with the understanding that the 05/06 season wii defenlety be the last.

JD2635
11-19-2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by snl75
i think theres a very good chance that w&g will be back nbc has almost nothing in the comedy dep. besides scrubs and joey and they will pay the big bucks to keep it going for at least one more season its too risky for nbc not to right now in the state they are in as far as that 70s show goes i dont know topher and ashton want to do movies and they have tons of offers but on the other hand fox is suffering so so ratings this season so they might at least hhave to try to get them back to buy themselves some time but i think if they do come back next year i think ashton will only be there on a limited basis tohper i think would do a full season but with the understanding that the 05/06 season wii defenlety be the last.

Here's an idea snl75. Since the contract with T70sS on FOX ends after this season, don't you think That '70s Show should move to NBC with their final season on the Peacock, similar to Family Matters and Step by Step on ABC/CBS during their last seasons, (1997-98) then Will & Grace and That '70s Show would really be sister shows! But That's IMHO!

snl75
11-19-2004, 05:08 PM
they might do that but i dont think nbc is interested in picking up a 7 year old show from another network and besides i dont thnk w&g and that 70s show are sister shows they are nothing alike

slackermonkey
11-19-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by JD2635
Where's your proof that KOTH is getting a 10th season? Because of what I heard, the show is currently picked up through this season.

FOX announced it a few months back.

JD2635
11-25-2004, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by slackermonkey
Actually, "Joey" is their strongest, but "W&G" is very, very close behind.

And yes, the "LOL WILL & GRACE IS ENDING NEXT YEAR OMG R.I.P. W&G 1998-2005" stuff is getting extremely annoying. It's not confirmed, and neither is the stuff about "That's 70s Show" and "King of the Hill."

You know Slackermonkey, Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace already said that the 7th season of T70sS would be the last for both of them.

slackermonkey
11-26-2004, 12:06 AM
Yes, but that doesn't mean the show itself is ending. Several shows have gone on without their original actors -- ER, Cheers, Family Ties...

There has been no official announcement that it'll be the last season for That's 70s Show. Therefore, it's useless and annoying to post "RIP T70sS 1998-2005," especially considering it has absolutely nothing to do with this forum.

JD2635
12-03-2004, 03:38 PM
CHICAGO (thefutoncritic.com) -- FOX has renewed its animated comedy "King of the Hill" for a ninth season, keeping the long-running series on its schedule through May 2005.

The news comes as no surprise as the network previously negotiated an option for the comedy's 2004-05 season earlier this year. The pickup comes earlier than most series due to the extended lead time needed to produce animation.

slackermonkey
12-03-2004, 07:23 PM
First of all, that newsbit is from July 2003. The show has been renewed another time since then. I noticed you conveniently left off the date.

And second of all, when they say "a show has been renewed until such-and-such time," it just means that's the furthest the show's order has gotten so far, not that it's as far as it'll ever get. For example, there was a time when Friends was only renewed through May 2000. But it did not end in May 2000. When it came time for renegotiations, NBC ended up renewing it through May 2002, for two more seasons. They renew shows in two-to-three year spurts. Unless it distinctly says "King of the Hill will end its run in May 2005," which it does not, it just means that the show is waiting for another renewal, which it got since July 2003.

Anyway, this has absolutely nothing to do with Will & Grace, so let's just drop it and get back on topic.

snl75
12-03-2004, 07:35 PM
i know the final season thing every time we come here has become tiersome

NASHMAN
12-08-2004, 08:19 PM
Yeah, same here!