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SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 01:36 AM Is anyone from the east coast watching SNL?... Someone was telling me that something extremely bad happened during one of her performances- so bad, that it could possibly even her career.
What happened?... (I lived on the west coast.)
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 01:58 AM She was about to go into her second performance. She did Pieces of Me first and when she started to go on they played her Pieces of Me with lyrics instead so she was basically got caught lip syncing she tried to make up for it by doing some stupid dance and she walked off stage. It was awesome LOL
I've GOT to see this! I hope they don't edit it from the west coast feed.
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 02:09 AM Originally posted by AKA
I've GOT to see this! I hope they don't edit it from the west coast feed.
Don't worry if they do I'm sure you'll be able to download it eventually
Originally posted by MandieR1980
Don't worry if they do I'm sure you'll be able to download it eventually Yeah, probably. But just in case they do show it, I'm firing up my VCR.
So it's the second performance I need to look for?
Janice 10-24-2004, 02:21 AM Originally posted by AKA
So it's the second performance I need to look for?
Try this Brad.
http://www.collegehumor.com/news/ashlee_snl.wmv
Originally posted by Janice
Try this Brad.
http://www.collegehumor.com/news/ashlee_snl.wmv Oh, man. That's HILARIOUS!
I read that she blamed her band for that. The band was doing exactly what they were supposed to be dong.
Looks like her fault to me. If she's going to cheat the audience by lipsynching, she should at least be on cue.
Janice 10-24-2004, 02:30 AM Originally posted by AKA
Oh, man. That's HILARIOUS!
I read that she blamed her band for that. Looks like her fault to me. If she's going to cheat the audience by lipsynching, she should at least be on cue.
LOL, yeah that helps. I'm sure this will be all over the web and even tv tomorrow.
Originally posted by Janice
LOL, yeah that helps. I'm sure this will be all over the web and even tv tomorrow. Probably. I'd say her career is over. Or at the very least severely damaged.
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 02:37 AM Originally posted by AKA
Probably. I'd say her career is over. Or at the very least severely damaged.
it didn't stop Britney unfortunately. The music industry are a bunch of hypocrites they take Milli Vanilli's Grammy away but they don't have a problem with Britney.
HuntingtonM15 10-24-2004, 02:38 AM :lol: :rofl: That is great!!!
Dutabi84 10-24-2004, 02:39 AM Originally posted by Janice
Try this Brad.
http://www.collegehumor.com/news/ashlee_snl.wmv
YES! That is too awesome. Great! I hope her career is over -- it sure as hell wasn't much to begin with.
Now, only we can hope something similar happens to the likes of Lindsay Lohan and that what's-her-name from "Lizzy McGuire." We'd be set. :thumbsup:
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 02:51 AM Originally posted by Dutabi84
YES! That is too awesome. Great! I hope her career is over -- it sure as hell wasn't much to begin with.
Now, only we can hope something similar happens to the likes of Lindsay Lohan and that what's-her-name from "Lizzy McGuire." We'd be set. :thumbsup:
and don't forget Britney damnit! LOL She said she's taking a year long break lets pray that she stays gone LOL
Brian 10-24-2004, 02:56 AM Originally posted by Janice
Try this Brad.
http://www.collegehumor.com/news/ashlee_snl.wmv
It's not working! :(
Hollow 10-24-2004, 02:56 AM HOLY ****. I've never seen anything like this.. she really ****ed up. I feel a little bad for her though, she must be really embarrassed.
Lip synching is goddamn stupid. If you want to be a singer, don't you at least want to SING? I love singing and if i lip synched at a performance it would entirely take out all the fun of it. Plus it's a LOT better for everyone to see you mess up than to be caught lip synching.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 02:56 AM I am still in awe, in how ****ed that was. I can't believe she just left her band behind and walked off- a real singer (even Britney!,) would of simply picked up and saved the performance.
Is she that bad of a singer?... I mean she could of EASILY rescued that! If I was one of her band members I would of start singing the song myself, making her look like a bigger ass! What a loser, I hope her career never recovers.
What she did was completely shameful.
Dutabi84 10-24-2004, 03:02 AM Originally posted by MandieR1980
and don't forget Britney damnit! LOL She said she's taking a year long break lets pray that she stays gone LOL
Britney..unfortunately it might be too late for her career to take a dive into the gutter. Too many #1 (s)hits. These others have hope though!
Hollow 10-24-2004, 03:02 AM hm
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:02 AM Originally posted by Dutabi84
Now, only we can hope something similar happens to the likes of Lindsay Lohan and that what's-her-name from "Lizzy McGuire." We'd be set. :thumbsup:
Actually, this happened last year to Hilary during MTV's New Year's Bash, but she wasn't as dumb. She simply started singing, and WASN'T bad!
I bet Lindsay is going to be very carefully about lip synching to begin with.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-24-2004, 03:04 AM They always play background vocals for performances, so I dont see what the big deal is. It was humiliating though.
Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
They always play background vocals for performances, so I dont see what the big deal is. It was humiliating though. Not at the concerts I go to.
Brian 10-24-2004, 03:05 AM Nevermind.
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 03:06 AM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
They always play background vocals for performances, so I dont see what the big deal is. It was humiliating though.
There is no reason for it if you can sing you don't need a CD in the background that's what background singers are for.
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 03:07 AM Originally posted by AKA
Not at the concerts I go to.
same here then again I don't go to crap like this LOL
Looks like they used dress rehearsal footage for us west coasters. Damn it all.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:08 AM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
They always play background vocals for performances, so I dont see what the big deal is. It was humiliating though.
They weren't background vocals, they were LEAD. If she would of been singing we would of heard her sing "Autobiography" to begin with, but she wasn't.
This also proves that she COMPLETELY lipped her first performance. If you pay attention you can tell she only performed the first line of the song during the first performance, the rest was lipped.
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 03:09 AM Originally posted by AKA
Looks like they used dress rehearsal footage for us west coasters. Damn it all.
WIMPS! :rolleyes:
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-24-2004, 03:10 AM Originally posted by AKA
Not at the concerts I go to. Well, I wasnt referring to concerts. I mean TV appearances and such. Concerts Ive been to there havent been any. Not the recent ones anyways, though theyre all the same.
Brian 10-24-2004, 03:10 AM Nevermind again.:o
MandieR1980 10-24-2004, 03:12 AM Originally posted by Brian
Is there any other site that has this video?
not that I know of. Save it to your computer that should work
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-24-2004, 03:13 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
They weren't background vocals, they were LEAD. If she would of been singing we would of heard her sing "Autobiography" to begin with, but she wasn't.
This also proves that she COMPLETELY lipped her first performance. If you pay attention you can tell she only performed the first line of the song during the first performance, the rest was lipped. o0o. I noticed she did sound really good live, and a lot of people kinda suck live. I just figured it was the BG enchanced.
But honestly, is her band that dumb? They already played that damn song.. you think they would have known. They do practice.
Brian 10-24-2004, 03:14 AM Originally posted by MandieR1980
not that I know of. Save it to your computer that should work
I saw it right as I edited my original post, so there's no problem now.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:18 AM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
But honestly, is her band that dumb? They already played that damn song.. you think they would have known. They do practice.
No, no, no. It seems as if they started playing the right track ("Autobiography,") but cleverly went to "Pieces of Me," after realizing her track was playing the wrong song!
They tried to save her ass!
Hollow 10-24-2004, 03:19 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
No, no, no. It seems as if they started playing the right track ("Autobiography,") but cleverly went to "Pieces of Me," after realizing her track was playing the wrong song!
They tried to save her ass!
so she was supposed to be performing autobiography?
i've never seen such a disaster in my life.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:21 AM Originally posted by safety pin
so she was supposed to be performing autobiography?
i've never seen such a disaster in my life.
Yup, this was supposed to be the "big" premiere for the new single.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-24-2004, 03:22 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
No, no, no. It seems as if they started playing the right track ("Autobiography,") but cleverly went to "Pieces of Me," after realizing her track was playing the wrong song!
They tried to save her ass!
Ooooh ok, thanks. I didnt catch Autobiography at the beginning, only POM. Mustnt have been paying attention too well. Ay. That would have been even more embarassing.
vienna waits 10-24-2004, 03:23 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
No, no, no. It seems as if they started playing the right track ("Autobiography,") but cleverly went to "Pieces of Me," after realizing her track was playing the wrong song!
They tried to save her ass!
Well then the people who hit the track button made a booboo and we all know she didnt sing all of POM. Not exactly front story news.
You people are blowing this WAY out of proportion.
Oh, okay. Maybe the west coast version will still have the ****-up, after all.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:24 AM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
Ooooh ok, thanks. I didnt catch Autobiography at the beginning, only POM. Mustnt have been paying attention too well. Ay. That would have been even more embarassing.
What's more embarassing is how she blamed them after they tried to save her dumbass. LOL, her career is over!
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
What's more embarassing is how she blamed them after they tried to save her dumbass. LOL, her career is over! Yeah, I just saw a video clip from the end of the show where says, "My band started playing the wrong song, and I didn't know what to do, so I started doing a ho-down."
If I was in her band, I'd quit.
Dutabi84 10-24-2004, 03:28 AM Originally posted by AKA
Oh, okay. Maybe the west coast version will still have the ****-up, after all.
I hope you get to see it. I was unfortunate enough to miss it, except for the clip on the internet. This is by far the highlight of my day.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:29 AM Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
Well then the people who hit the track button made a booboo and we all know she didnt sing all of POM. Not exactly front story news.
You people are blowing this WAY out of proportion.
But the fact that she needs a track to sing the song is the big deal. The track is only there to "enhance" your voice, not sing the whole damn song! If she was a "real" singer, she could of easily gone along with the band and started singing "POM" instead -or- turned around and tell her band to start over with the new song, BUT she NEEDED the track!
Hollow 10-24-2004, 03:31 AM Originally posted by AKA
"My band started playing the wrong song, and I didn't know what to do, so I started doing a ho-down."
start singing it maybe?
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:32 AM Originally posted by AKA
If I was in her band, I'd quit.
I would too, like it isn't an embrassment to be in her band to begin with. Taking blame for her ****-ups is going too far.
vienna waits 10-24-2004, 03:32 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
But the fact that she needs a track to sing the song is the big deal. The track is only there to "enhance" your voice, not sing the whole damn song! If she was a "real" singer, she could of easily gone along with the band and started singing "POM" instead -or- turned around and tell her band to start over with the new song, BUT she NEEDED the track!
ok so she was supposed to tell her band to stop and start singing Autobiography while POM is playing in the BG?
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:33 AM Originally posted by safety pin
start singing it maybe?
Exactly, it's common sense. BTW, your avatar is bring back some bad memories.
Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
ok so she was supposed to tell her band to stop and start singing Autobiography while POM is playing in the BG? Maybe she should act like a real singer and not use a lipsynch track in the first place.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:34 AM Originally posted by Idol Fanatic
ok so she was supposed to tell her band to stop and start singing Autobiography while POM is playing in the BG?
That's the way a REAL band would of done it. Someone in the back could of easily turned off the "POM" track, and let her sing "Autobiography" by herself w/ the band- the way it should of been to begin with.
Hollow 10-24-2004, 03:41 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
That's the way a REAL band would of done it. Someone in the back could of easily turned off the "POM" track, and let her sing "Autobiography" by herself w/ the band- the way it should of been to begin with.
exactly. she went on there to perform, not to dance around like a dork to make up for not singing and walk offstage 30 seconds into the performance. if they needed to start over, they should have. THAT would be the thing to do to make up for it.
Superstar 10-24-2004, 03:44 AM :lol:
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:48 AM I got this from another message board:
From Lucky Magazine interview:
LM: What are your takes on lip-synching?
AS: I'm totally against it and offended by it. I'm going out to let my real talent show, not to just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip-synch. It's just not me
LOL... I guess NBC didn't edit the west coast feed.
They DID show it here! Only they mixed out the lipsynch vocals, so she looks SLIGHTLY less like a friggin' dope.
SBTB Geek 10-24-2004, 03:56 AM This is spreading so fast! :D
Hollow 10-24-2004, 04:59 AM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
This is spreading so fast! :D
:rofl: she's really starting to remind me of avril lavigne.. in a lot of ways.
Chelsea 10-24-2004, 05:39 AM It's good to see SNL serving it's main purpose again..to show marginally-talented fools for who they are...
Kay Scarpetta 10-24-2004, 10:37 AM I missed this?! OMG I knew I should have watched this! I figured I could catch the SNL ep on a repeat, not knowing something this ****ed up would happen. AHAHAHA. I love Ashley, but really, how ****ing dumb can you get?
Mr. Stefani 10-24-2004, 11:10 AM haha i didnt see it but i saw that collegehumor video. sucks for her. it sounded like it was just a backtrack that started though so i dont think she was planning on doing full blown lip synching. That really blows for her though since she always sings live. burn haaa
spunkygirl 10-24-2004, 12:03 PM ohno: OMG how stupid. She just showed people how untalented she really is.
Will it really hurt her career? Didn't Britney do that once at a concert? She got caught lipsyncing? Or maybe I'm thinking of someonelse :o
Janice 10-24-2004, 12:47 PM It's too bad for Ashlee that she couldn't have turned the mess into a skit. Maybe start screaming that, "I told the producers that I don't lip-synch! I'm not like (insert a singer here) or (another singer here). Lorne Michaels, I'll get you for this. There trying to ruin my career."
Something along those lines. Not many of us are that quick on our feet, and she's not a comedienne, but I think there was potential there for her to bluff it.
Dean Winchester 10-24-2004, 01:19 PM HAHAHA. Ashlee just proved that after all, she is indeed a POP SINGER, since she even dyed her hair to try to be taken seriously as a "rock chick". You can let your blonde roots come back now, you look better blonde anyways. I am just tired of people going "I am not a pop singer!!!" and then going on TRL to premiere every video, she claims she is so punk, so why has she never played CBGB's?
why can't something like this happen to Usher? I don't like Ashley one bit, butshe hasn't monopolized the pop chart the past year like Usher has, and his songs aren't nearly as good as what he was doing.
It's one thing for someone to deny inuendos and rumors of lip synching, but there's no denying it when it happens on LIVE TV!
If Miss Simpson doesn't just fess up to the whole thing instead of blaming her band, she's going to lose a lot of fans.
USTVFanFromUK 10-24-2004, 01:25 PM Originally posted by TJL
If Miss Simpson doesn't just fess up to the whole thing instead of blaming her band, she's going to lose a lot of fans.
I don't think so as many of her fans are teens. They probably couldn't care less.
Dean Winchester 10-24-2004, 01:27 PM Originally posted by USTVFanFromUK
I don't think so as many of her fans are teens. They probably couldn't care less.
I agree, teens today are (not all, but some are) more stupid than years ago.
Judging by the way they defend Britney and Ashlee... I bet if Milli Vanilli happened today, all the teenyboppers would STILL be on Rob And Fab's side, lol.
AllIWantIsYourClutch 10-24-2004, 01:30 PM Originally posted by Janice
It's too bad for Ashlee that she couldn't have turned the mess into a skit. Maybe start screaming that, "I told the producers that I don't lip-synch! I'm not like (insert a singer here) or (another singer here). Lorne Michaels, I'll get you for this. There trying to ruin my career."
Something along those lines. Not many of us are that quick on our feet, and she's not a comedienne, but I think there was potential there for her to bluff it. I don't think she's intelligent enough for that...:lol:
You can't really compare this to Milli Vanilli...At least Ashlee sang on her CD. I think she only lip syncs on TV performances. But still....she's a moron. The band were the only people that didn't do anything wrong.
robyrob 10-24-2004, 01:30 PM ...and to think i almost picked the music segment to go fix a snack :lol:
this whole fiasco really made my day :)
vashti1999 10-24-2004, 01:31 PM Originally posted by Kay Scarpetta
OMG I knew I should have watched this! I figured I could catch the SNL ep on a repeat, not knowing something this ****ed up would happen.
I doubt that this will be included on the rebroadcast, it'll be edited out for sure.
Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
why can't something like this happen to Usher? I don't like Ashley one bit, butshe hasn't monopolized the pop chart the past year like Usher has, and his songs aren't nearly as good as what he was doing.
Because Usher can sing, and monopolizing the charts has nothing to do with performing.
And for everyone so quick to say her career is over, if R. Kelly's mug can still be seen in practically every other video shown on BET after the things he's been accused of, Ashlee Simpson probably has nothing to worry about. It's not as if she was destined to be around for the next 30 years anyway.
The Modfather 10-24-2004, 02:17 PM God, this is too perfect! :rotflmao:
Maybe this might make SNL get GOOD artists on the show.
I can't get the link that Janice posted to come up for some reason. So I don't know if the East Coast version was the same as the West Coast version but they sure didn't edit the whole thing out.
What I saw was this: the music started, it looked like she was about to sing and then nothing happened. She did a couple of dance ditties that looked like false starts while the music was still going on. Then she walked off while the band rocked on with an empty spotlight in front of them.
When I saw it I didn't think it was alll that big of a deal. Something went wrong and I guessed that she just basically panicked and ran away. It was humorous, in a way, even though it had to have been embarrasing for her. It didn't seem like an earth shattering event for her career. Heck, it'll probably even help her out because of the giant publicity rise it will give her. Who knows? Obviously I don't. :crazy:
What wasn't good, and really might hurt her career though, was what she said at the end of the show. Even if that was true that would have been the wrong thing to say. Blame the band? Youchee, Baby.
Originally posted by The Modfather
God, this is too perfect! :rotflmao:
Maybe this might make SNL get GOOD artists on the show. Ironical that you should say that. As I was watching her first song (which was, duh, before the fiasco second song) I thought to myself , Does Lorne Michaels really give a rats behind about this chick as an artist? Michaels and SNL cater too much to the what is "NOW" crowd. They could have great artists on much more often than they do. I don't think that would put their ratings in the dumpster. Show some class, SNL! It's not too late.
Hey Kitt,
They mixed out the lipsynch track for the West Coast broadcast. What you missed is her lipsynch track starting unexpectedly, and I guess it was for the wrong song (which the band tried to cover for), so if anyone besides Ashlee is to blame, it's the person behind the scenes in charge of her audio.
Still, she needs to take the brunt of the blame for lipsynching on stage in the first place.
ilovethe80s 10-24-2004, 02:50 PM edited
Originally posted by ilovethe80s
I think she was supposed to be singing "Shadow" but they started playing "Pieces of Me" instead so she just got nervous and walked off stage or something. The band played the correct song, but someone working audio played the wrong lipsynch track, which the band tried to cover for by switching to "Pieces Of Me."
ilovethe80s 10-24-2004, 02:53 PM edited
ilovethe80s 10-24-2004, 02:55 PM edited
ilovethe80s 10-24-2004, 02:59 PM edited
Originally posted by AKA
Still, she needs to take the brunt of the blame for lipsynching on stage in the first place. I agree with both of those comments. I'm not a fan of lipsynching, espeically for just two measly songs for goodness sakes. But, you know, lipsynching has been part of live performing for a number of years now. I get the feeling that a lot of people think it's a more or less a recent dive into sorryass entertainment. Some of our heroes of old were guilty of it too.
She should take the brunt all right. She's the front-woman. It wouldn't matter if her band messed up or not. She should take it all on her shoulders. If she wants to grumble at them, or worse, privately that would be understandable, and their business. To tell the world as she did that it was their fault was superduper crummy.
vashti1999 10-24-2004, 03:08 PM Unfortunately, I didn't get to see it, but for anyone who did, did you notice at the end of the show if her band members were standing on stage with her and all the cast members? Maybe it was discussed between the mix-up and the end of the show that it would be blamed as a band malfunction?
Originally posted by vashti1999
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see it, but for anyone who did, did you notice at the end of the show if her band members were standing on stage with her and all the cast members? Maybe it was discussed between the mix-up and the end of the show that it would be blamed as a band malfunction? I could be wrong, but no, I didn't see the band on stage. I doubt that her comments about it being their fault stemmed from a discussion. A discussion that ended with the band being declared to be the mutually agreed upon bad boys to be tied to the whipping post.
Originally posted by Kitt
I agree with both of those comments. I'm not a fan of lipsynching, espeically for just two measly songs for goodness sakes. But, you know, lipsynching has been part of live performing for a number of years now. I get the feeling that a lot of people think it's a more or less a recent dive into sorryass entertainment. Some of our heroes of old were guilty of it too. Agreed. But I thought there would be LESS lipsynching in 2004 than there was in say, 1964. You'd think Saturday Night Live would have more musical credibility than Hullaballoo.Originally posted by vashti1999
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see it, but for anyone who did, did you notice at the end of the show if her band members were standing on stage with her and all the cast members? Maybe it was discussed between the mix-up and the end of the show that it would be blamed as a band malfunction? At the end of the show, the band was nowhere to be seen.
Originally posted by AKA
Agreed. But I thought there would be LESS lipsynching in 2004 than there was in say, 1964. You'd think Saturday Night Live would have more musical credibility than Hullaballoo. :lol: Yeah, as I said, 'come on SNL, get some class. It's not too late'.
Dean Winchester 10-24-2004, 03:46 PM Originally posted by Kitt
:lol: Yeah, as I said, 'come on SNL, get some class. It's not too late'.
SNL used to have "hip" music guests, now they have trendy ones. If I want trendy, I'd watch TRL on MTV
Saturday Night Live's credibility went into the toilet sometime in the mid-'90s.
You know, there was a time when they'd never allow a guest to lipsynch.
JD2635 10-24-2004, 06:21 PM I feel so bad for her. It's not all her fault you know. It's the set-up by the producers. So don't blame cheelyface jr. Ashlee, it's the SNL staff. It' wasn't quite doing a good job!
vashti1999 10-24-2004, 06:35 PM They just mentioned this on the local news, the same channel that airs SNL here in New York City. Even the anchorwoman was getting on her case for simply walking off the set when she was supposed to be doing a live performance. They said her excuse to lip synch the second performance was because she was losing her voice. Pretty funny, but I hope she eventually lives this down.
Originally posted by JD2635
I feel so bad for her. It's not all her fault you know. It's the set-up by the producers. So don't blame cheelyface jr. Ashlee, it's the SNL staff. It' wasn't quite doing a good job! Ashlee shouldn't have been lipsynching in the first place. If you can't cut it live without studio trickery to sweeten up your voice, what business do you have being the musical guest on SNL, let alone having a record contract?
ilovethe80s 10-24-2004, 08:07 PM Did 'SNL' Gaffe Expose Simpson Vocal Aid?
(AP, 10/24/2004 6:45 PM)
By David Bauder
Singer Ashlee Simpson 's "extra help" may have been exposed when a "Saturday Night Live" audience heard her voice — singing the wrong song — while she held a microphone at her waist.
Her record company blamed a computer glitch and she blamed her band for Sunday morning's incident, which cut off her planned performance of the song "Autobiography" on the network comedy show.
Simpson had performed her hit single "Pieces of Me" without incident earlier in the show. When she came back a second time, her band started playing and the first lines of her singing "Pieces of Me" could be heard again.
She looked momentarily confused as the band plowed ahead with the song and the vocal was quickly silenced.
Simpson made some exaggerated hopping dance moves, then walked off the stage 35 seconds into the performance. NBC quickly cut to a commercial.
"What can I say?" guest host Jude Law said with Simpson standing next to him at the end of the show. "Live TV."
"Exactly," Simpson said. "I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song. I didn't know what to do so I thought I'd do a hoe-down."
Her record company, Geffen Records, said there was a computer glitch. Instead of some pretaped electronic percussion, the recording of "Pieces of Me" started mistakenly performing, the record company said in a statement.
But it sounded suspiciously like a guide vocal that's a common — although almost always unspoken — concert aid. Either the singer "lip synchs" by mouthing words to a backing tape or has a live microphone and sings along to the tape, making the voice sound more powerful than it is.
Such vocal tricks have been used before on the show, making "Saturday Night Live" not entirely live, said a show insider who spoke on condition of anonymity.
A Geffen spokeswoman did not immediately return a call for comment.
Simpson's walk-off joins the lore of other unexpected music moments on "SNL": Elvis Costello stopping and changing songs on live TV, and Sinead O'Connor tearing up a picture of the pope.
Brian 10-24-2004, 08:10 PM Originally posted by ilovethe80s
Sinead O'Connor tearing up a picture of the pope.
I read about that. I want to see that, I'm always a sucker for the controversial stuff. It hasn't been aired beyond the episode's premiere though.
Originally posted by ilovethe80s
"I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song."
I see, Ashlee.
So your reaction to the band playing the wrong song was to start singing WITHOUT OPENING YOUR MOUTH?
;)
Kay Scarpetta 10-24-2004, 09:18 PM son of a bitch, I can't believe I missed this...
Brian Damage 10-24-2004, 09:40 PM That was hysterical! That's why SNL is king! Anything can happen on live television.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-24-2004, 10:25 PM Originally posted by Brian Damage
That was hysterical! That's why SNL is king! Anything can happen on live television. :notworthy I was so confused when she was ho-downing and the band was just playing like nothing. Thought maybe it was just one of those in-between comercials where they show them getting ready for skits or what not...until she apologized. I did find it hilarious hearing her singing in the background, though.
Wow, when I saw this thread I thought everyone was talking about me and my heart like...fluttered. I'm not used to celebrities with my name.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-24-2004, 10:28 PM Originally posted by Brian
I read about that. I want to see that, I'm always a sucker for the controversial stuff. It hasn't been aired beyond the episode's premiere though. It's edited and will never be shown again. I'd like to see it, too.
vashti1999 10-24-2004, 11:10 PM I just did something I never thought I'd do: visit Ashlee Simpson's official website. I was thinking maybe there'd be some sort of message from her to her fans but I didn't see one, but boy, did they have messages for her! Ouch!! "Pathetic", "You will never recover", "I hope you don't **** like you dance." And those were the nice messages.
There was also this:
Ashlee Simpson will be performing for the upcoming Radio Music Awards, airing live from Las Vegas on NBC October 25 at 9 p.m.
How much you wanna bet she doesn't show? Well, at least it says airing live and not performing live.
Janice 10-25-2004, 10:27 AM http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041025/D85UEHG00.html
Did 'SNL' Gaffe Expose Simpson Vocal Aid?
NEW YORK (AP) - Singer Ashlee Simpson's "extra help" may have been exposed when a "Saturday Night Live" audience heard her voice - singing the wrong song - while she held a microphone at her waist.
Her record company blamed a computer glitch and she blamed her band for Sunday morning's incident, which cut off her planned performance of the song "Autobiography" on the network comedy show.
Simpson had performed her hit single "Pieces of Me" without incident earlier in the show. When she came back a second time, her band started playing and the first lines of her singing "Pieces of Me" could be heard again.
She looked momentarily confused as the band plowed ahead with the song and the vocal was quickly silenced.
Simpson made some exaggerated hopping dance moves, then walked off the stage 35 seconds into the performance. NBC quickly cut to a commercial.
"What can I say?" guest host Jude Law said with Simpson standing next to him at the end of the show. "Live TV."
"Exactly," Simpson said. "I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song. I didn't know what to do so I thought I'd do a hoe-down."
Her record company, Geffen Records, said there was a computer glitch. Instead of some pretaped electronic percussion, the recording of "Pieces of Me" started mistakenly performing, the record company said in a statement.
But it sounded suspiciously like a guide vocal that's a common - although almost always unspoken - concert aid. Either the singer "lip synchs" by mouthing words to a backing tape or has a live microphone and sings along to the tape, making the voice sound more powerful than it is.
Such vocal tricks have been used before on the show, making "Saturday Night Live" not entirely live, said a show insider who spoke on condition of anonymity.
A Geffen spokeswoman did not immediately return a call for comment.
Simpson's walk-off joins the lore of other unexpected music moments on "SNL": Elvis Costello stopping and changing songs on live TV, and Sinead O'Connor tearing up a picture of the pope.
Falling to “Pieces”
Ashlee Simpson's lip-synching drama on “SNL” exposed her as the concocted rocker chick we already knew she was.
By Heather Havrilesky
Salon.com
It happened at the beginning of Ashlee Simpson's second musical performance on Saturday Night Live. She and her band stood ready to perform the song “Autobiography” when suddenly, mysteriously, her vocal track from her hit song “Pieces of Me” – which she had already “sung” earlier that evening – began to play over the loudspeakers. Looking confused and embarrassed, Ashlee did a goofy jig for a few awkward moments, then smiled sheepishly to the audience. Then she slinked offstage. As her band continued to play “Pieces of Me,” the guitarist and the bassist exchanging a knowing smirk, and then the show cut to a commercial.
And with one little recording mishap, young Ashlee cashed in whatever counterfeit street cred she and her handlers tried so hard to cultivate.
At the end of the show, Ashlee appeared onstage with host Jude Law to apologize.
Law: Ladies and gentlemen, what can I say? Live TV!
Simpson: Exactly! I feel so bad! My band started playing the wrong song, and I didn't know what to do, so I thought I'd do a hoe-down!
The normally rabid live audience reacted with stilted laughter as Ashlee crammed as many “Oops!” and “What can you do?” gestures as possible into her final few seconds on the air. That hapless little-sister, “Sure, I'm pathetic, but in a cute way!” shtick that made her MTV reality show, The Ashlee Simpson Show, so popular, won her the devotion of scores of fans, and contributed to selling almost two million copies of her debut album, Autobiography, now wore thin.
Of course, blaming her band and shrugging it all off as an adorable mishap didn't help, and Geffen Records didn't offer much assistance, either, blaming the snafu on a computer glitch, according to an AP report. The company claimed that, instead of pre-taped drums, the computer played a recording of “Pieces of Me.” Not a bad excuse – if they hadn't played a pared-down, raw-sounding vocal track, and not the normal recording.
Like it or not, plenty of pop performers use pre-recorded tracks, and since Simpson's performance on MTV's Music Video Awards in August was roundly criticized as unimpressive and off-key, it's probably not surprising that Ashlee and her handlers would opt to lip-synch. It's also not surprising that Ashlee isn't the best live performer around; after all, she's hardly performed before. MTV captured her first live performance ever at The Knitting Factory in L.A., replete with promotional fraudience swooning enthusiastically for the cameras. Far from the baby steps most performers take from open-mic nights to small venues, Ashlee was thrust, camera-ready, at age 19, into the drooling maw of the public, hardly given half a chance to come into her own as a songwriter, a performer, or a human being, really.
But just as Ashlee's career was formed in the exhaust of an overhyped publicity vehicle and fueled by a choreographed media dogpile, so might her career go down in flames befitting such a carelessly engineered persona. Hours after the SNL incident, several Websites dug up an interview in Lucky Magazine, where Ashlee professed her disdain for pre-recorded vocals.
Lucky: What are your takes on lip-synching?
Simpson: I'm totally against it and offended by it. I'm going out to let my real talent show, not to just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip-synch. It's just not me.
Still, no matter how much Ashlee comes under fire for being a fraud – as if her entire reality show weren't focused on the blatant, unapologetic fabrication of pop celebrity – Ashlee herself is too young and naive to be held accountable for the countless errors in judgment that have been made in handling her career. While her father/manager Joe Simpson has been described by the New York Times as a tenacious entrepreneur, you have to question the wisdom of a man who, having transformed his eldest daughter, Jessica, from second-string pop star into reality TV guinea pig and pop cultural punchline, would set his sites on squeezing his more sensitive, emotional daughter into the same celebrity mold. No matter how many times we saw Ashlee stomping her feet and insisting on doing things her way on her show – which mostly boiled down to which shade of chestnut to dye her blonde hair – it was always clear that she was a helpless pawn in someone else's intensely profitable game.
Ultimately, her show was a close-up glimpse of Pop Star Day Care. Ashlee was shepherded around town, meeting with the hit songwriters the label hired that week, showing up at her first crowded gig looking petrified, being coached by her sister on how to handle the attention. Maybe, given her sister's trajectory, it seemed perfectly natural to Ashlee and her father that she should launch her career while cameras followed her every move. But who convinced her that it was a good idea to lip-synch?
In a recent New York Times profile of Joe Simpson, Geffen's president Jordan Schur offers some insight into the unmaking of Ashlee Simpson “When I was arguing with Ashlee and I was firing her producers, and she was crying, 'Dad I'm so upset, do something,' any other manager – forget father – would have jumped in,” reported Schur. “Joe sat there and didn't open his mouth. He said, 'Listen to Jordan.'“
So what happens to Ashlee now? Given the degree to which most artists are invented by label executives and handlers, given the fact that we've seen this process in slow motion on show's like Ashlee's and Jessica's and The Making of the Band, why would anyone object to getting a small peek behind the curtain?
Because the public is fickle. Just as her invention as a pop diva captured its imagination, insuring that her album debuted at No. 1 while her sloppily-crafted pop-star self was still half-formed, so will they turn on her for being the fabricated, marketed, propped-up self that they knew she was from the start.
But the real victim is Ashlee, who day in and day out races from one event to the next trying desperately to play her part as an alternative rocker who's actually just a regular, mainstream teenager, as a savvy businesswoman who really doesn't seem to have much say in her career at all, and as a seasoned performer who's actually inexperienced and ill-prepared. As ridiculous as Ashlee might look up there, shrugging and smiling apologetically, it's the puppet master holding her strings who really deserves to be strung up.
MissZero 10-25-2004, 03:00 PM Originally posted by vashti1999
I just did something I never thought I'd do: visit Ashlee Simpson's official website. I was thinking maybe there'd be some sort of message from her to her fans but I didn't see one, but boy, did they have messages for her! Ouch!! "Pathetic", "You will never recover", "I hope you don't **** like you dance." And those were the nice messages.
There was also this:
Ashlee Simpson will be performing for the upcoming Radio Music Awards, airing live from Las Vegas on NBC October 25 at 9 p.m.
How much you wanna bet she doesn't show? Well, at least it says airing live and not performing live.
:lol:
vashti1999 10-25-2004, 03:12 PM That article AKA posted from salon.com a few posts above says it all. That's pretty much how I felt about the situation, especially this part:
Ashlee was thrust, camera-ready, at age 19, into the drooling maw of the public, hardly given half a chance to come into her own as a songwriter, a performer, or a human being, really.
But the real victim is Ashlee, who day in and day out races from one event to the next trying desperately to play her part as an alternative rocker who's actually just a regular, mainstream teenager, as a savvy businesswoman who really doesn't seem to have much say in her career at all, and as a seasoned performer who's actually inexperienced and ill-prepared.
That's why I'm not holding it against her too much, or at least not as much as others are. Yes, it was extremely embarassing and unfortunate, and yeah the talent should have been there so that something like that would never happen, but worse things in the world have happened.
dlemond 10-25-2004, 03:16 PM Originally posted by vashti1999
That article AKA posted from salon.com a few posts above says it all. That's pretty much how I felt about the situation, especially this part:
Ashlee was thrust, camera-ready, at age 19, into the drooling maw of the public, hardly given half a chance to come into her own as a songwriter, a performer, or a human being, really.
But the real victim is Ashlee, who day in and day out races from one event to the next trying desperately to play her part as an alternative rocker who's actually just a regular, mainstream teenager, as a savvy businesswoman who really doesn't seem to have much say in her career at all, and as a seasoned performer who's actually inexperienced and ill-prepared.
That's why I'm not holding it against her too much, or at least not as much as others. Yes, it was extremely embarassing and unfortunate, and yeah the talent should have been there so that something like that would never happen, but worse things in the world have happened.
Yeah, and besides the fact that she has no talent there is no reason to feel sorry for her.
She can't write a song, play an instrument, or sing better than anyone at an average Karoke night at a bar.
Boo hoo Ashlee.
With the ridiculous amount of unheralded artists out there it just emphasizes that SNL is not only devoid of humor but of any commen sense or talent.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-25-2004, 03:31 PM Watching that video again really kind of does make me feel bad for her. She really ISN'T in control of her life, no matter how much she wants to make it seem. She should be doing something she's good at...and she's not.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-25-2004, 03:32 PM Originally posted by dlemond
Yeah, and besides the fact that she has no talent there is no reason to feel sorry for her.
She can't write a song, play an instrument, or sing better than anyone at an average Karoke night at a bar.
Boo hoo Ashlee.
With the ridiculous amount of unheralded artists out there it just emphasizes that SNL is not only devoid of humor but of any commen sense or talent. Hoooof badass. :eek:
dlemond 10-25-2004, 03:35 PM Originally posted by *A TV People*
Hoooof badass. :eek:
Don't know what that means, but if it is a mock, fine.
Whoever actually cares about Ashlee Simpson has the worst music collection you could ever imagine.
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-25-2004, 03:42 PM Originally posted by dlemond
Don't know what that means, but if it is a mock, fine.
Whoever actually cares about Ashlee Simpson has the worst music collection you could ever imagine. Badass...you know, toughie...um um um...The Fonz on crack. Like that.
I don't like her music, but she's a person. I claim to hate people all the time, but I don't. I just get angry at them. In reality, I feel bad for everyone. You shouldn't criticize people for that, for caring.
dlemond 10-25-2004, 03:47 PM Originally posted by *A TV People*
Badass...you know, toughie...um um um...The Fonz on crack. Like that.
I don't like her music, but she's a person. I claim to hate people all the time, but I don't. I just get angry at them. In reality, I feel bad for everyone. You shouldn't criticize people for that, for caring.
I should criticize people for feeling bad for her because any of those people obviously aren't making the type of money she is making for doing absolutely nothing. Being lame no matter how hard you work out it is still being lame.
Whoever wasted a dime on her or her sister is an idiot. Anyone who cares about someone they don't know more than their own family is a moron. And I don't see people lamenting their own family, just these idiots.
For equal time purposes, here's what the pastor's daughter posted on her message board today.
She still hasn't apologized for blaming her band, or for lipsynching in the first place when she's spoken out against it before.
Originally posted by Ashlee Simpson
Hello.
Please can everyone stop posting their asshat comments in new posts? The messages are intended for me to read, right? So, post them as a comment so i can read them all, and reply to as many as possible.
Right, now thats out of the way..
I know i said i'd never do it, and spoke down about lip-synching (LS), but i do not sleep very much (or haven't been doing much recently) and i have travelled a lot and done so many things, i have a lot on my mind with things that no-one else knows.. i did not feel up to it.
Imagine getting the chance to sing songs you wrote and recorded on SNL infront of millions. Then the day before, almost losing your voice or at least not being able to sing to your full ability (and before anyone says it, i can sing - so **** you :p). I'm not going to lie and say that a big MUST for me is record sales - its the same for any band i guess - so the best option was to go with the LS and hope it went alright.
It didn't, i looked a stupid little girl but i have accepted that. Worse things happen. Instead of totally focusing on getting to me on my website, focus on who to vote as your president or something. Say something nice to someone today maybe. Realise i am holding my head high through my most embarrasing moment live on national TV, but it has passed now, i am ready to move on and make it up to myself, can't you move on?
If you want to make any comments please post them in this post and lets all just move on :)
It REALLY, can be, no **** that, IS as simple as that.
See you all soon, and thanks for the support to the majority of people who are giving it.
Ash x x
Boo hoo, Ashlee. I don't feel the slightest bit sorry for you.
vashti1999 10-25-2004, 04:07 PM Originally posted by AKA
For equal time purposes, here's what the pastor's daughter posted on her message board today.
She still hasn't apologized for blaming her band, or for lipsynching in the first place when she's spoken out against it before.
Was that in some sort of official section on her site, other than the forums? If it was posted in a forum, that's gotta be somebody using the name. I can't believe Ashlee Simpson herslf would post something like that.
Originally posted by vashti1999
Was that in some sort of official section on her site, other than the forums? If it was posted in a forum, that's gotta be somebody using the name. I can't believe Ashlee Simpson herslf would post something like that. It was her. It was posted under her username.
Update: Simpson Takes SNL Lip Sync Blame
By Barry A. Jeckell
Billboard
Ashlee Simpson is reportedly taking the heat for deciding to lip-sync during a performance on NBC's Saturday Night Live over the weekend, a plan that backfired when the vocals to the wrong song were audible during her second appearance.
As previously reported, Simpson had already performed her single "Pieces of You" and had returned to the SNL stage to run through the title track of her Geffen debut album, Autobiography. As the band kicked into the song, her vocals to the first song were heard while Simpson held her microphone at her side.
Flustered, she improvised a few dance steps before bolting from the stage. NBC quickly cut to a commercial.
At the close of the show, Simpson deflected the blame, telling the viewing audience "I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song." Geffen issued a statement blaming a computer glitch that should have played pre-recorded percussion rather than the "Pieces of You" vocals.
Today (Oct. 25) Simpson is reportedly singing a different tune. MTV, home to her reality series The Ashlee Simpson Show, reports on its Web site that Simpson has admitted to lip syncing on the show because her voice has suffering from the stresses of a heavy promotional schedule.
"I can't cancel something like SNL," Simpson is said to have written in a post on her official Web site. "You and I know that even if I synched on it or not, I'd still get seen by millions, maybe even make a few more fans.
"I'll hold my head high and say I think it was silly of me to do it, silly of me to blame the band, I was just so f***ing embarrassed," she added. "But I don't think it did me much harm, and people will see that soon."
An attempt to find Simpson's original post is daunting, as her site's message board has become a battleground where her staunch fans are fighting to defend her from an onslaught of thousands of negative, even vicious posts.
Amidst the often-vulgar posts in the site's "open forum" is a quote lifted from a Lucky magazine interview where she was asked about lip-synching. "I'm totally against it and offended by it," she said. "I'm going out to let my real talent show, not to just stand there and dance around. Personally, I'd never lip-synch. It's just not me."
The sister of singer-turned-reality television star Jessica Simpson scored her family's first chart-topping album when Autobiography was released in August. The set spent three non-consecutive weeks at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 and has sold 2 million copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
vashti1999 10-25-2004, 04:16 PM Originally posted by AKA
It was her. It was posted under her username.
I think that's some fangirl using the name. With the amount of negative comments there, I would think someone would have the forums disabled from the site entirely. Especially in light of what happened on SNL, I wouldn't think her handlers would let Ashlee respond in such a way on her own website.
Originally posted by vashti1999
I think that's some fangirl using the name. Could be. But like most other message boards, all screen names are password protected on her forum.
vashti1999 10-25-2004, 04:28 PM Originally posted by AKA
Could be. But like most other message boards, all screen names are password protected on her forum.
I guess I don't wanna believe that she's stupid enough to make things worse by posting a comment like that.
felicitylen 10-25-2004, 04:42 PM Today (Oct. 25) Simpson is reportedly singing a different tune. MTV, home to her reality series The Ashlee Simpson Show, reports on its Web site that Simpson has admitted to lip syncing on the show because her voice has suffering from the stresses of a heavy promotional schedule.
Yeah RIGHT!!!! She's going down!
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 05:00 PM Originally posted by vashti1999
I guess I don't wanna believe that she's stupid enough to make things worse by posting a comment like that. I agree. The way she responded to her fans was very ignorant to me. Instead of sounding apologetic, she got defensive and angry.
AllIWantIsYourClutch 10-25-2004, 05:02 PM It was on Inside Edition this afternoon. She said the same thing that article thingy says.
theanswerman 10-25-2004, 05:14 PM i feel bad for her.
MaydayMalonesGirl 10-25-2004, 05:48 PM Originally posted by TheAnswerMan
i feel bad for her.
I do, too. Most singers probably do the same thing but they never get caught. It must have been so embarassing for her.
theanswerman 10-25-2004, 05:50 PM Originally posted by MaydayMalonesGirl
I do, too. Most singers probably do the same thing but they never get caught. It must have been so embarassing for her.
thank you.
Dean Winchester 10-25-2004, 06:34 PM who else is with me besides AKA that if Milli Vanilli were to happen today, a lot of people would be "why do you have to be so mean to Rob and Fab? they are still good dancers"
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 06:43 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
who else is with me besides AKA that if Milli Vanilli were to happen today, a lot of people would be "why do you have to be so mean to Rob and Fab? they are still good dancers" Me. I feel bad for Ashlee, but not the way she handled it. But it is her own voice.
Milli Vanilli is just like that other 'scandal'... who was it.. CC & The Music Factory? It was just a music video, but still.
Oh, and as far as Milli Vanilli goes.. I like the songs regardless of who sang them.
MissZero 10-25-2004, 06:43 PM lol, i was watching trl today and she said she couldn't sing because of acid reflux (sp?) hahahahahaha......what a dumbass
spunkygirl 10-25-2004, 07:14 PM :rotflmao: OMG no one can get their stories straight, first her dad says she wasn't able to sing very well cause her voice was messed up, then Lorne Michaels said she was singing that the music was just back up harmony that she was singing over it :rotflmao: OMG no wonder no one believes anything that's said
:grr: If Ashlee's throat was as bad as her dad said, then she should have rescheduled
USTVFanFromUK 10-25-2004, 07:17 PM Originally posted by Angela Micelli
:grr: If Ashlee's throat was as bad as her dad said, then she should have rescheduled
There was nothing wrong with her voice from what I hear. When she blamed the entire thing on her band, her voice was normal according to accounts.
spunkygirl 10-25-2004, 07:19 PM Originally posted by USTVFanFromUK
There was nothing wrong with her voice from what I hear. When she blamed the entire thing on her band, her voice was normal according to accounts.
:nod: she sounded fine to me too, they showed clips of her SNL snafu on E! News Live and at the end of the show she sounded okay.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 08:38 PM Meangya theres like, 4 different reasons as to why she did it. Atleast Britney keeps with the same excuse.
TheGreatPretender 10-25-2004, 08:58 PM :rofl: http://lipsync.us.nyud.net:8090/eb_Ashlee_Blister.wmv
http://lipsync.us.nyud.net:8090/ashlee_vanillee.wmv
TheGreatPretender 10-25-2004, 09:01 PM :lol: Ok I know that's mean to laugh at her, but c'mon how is doing a jog' n jig gonna save you?
spunkygirl 10-25-2004, 09:02 PM Originally posted by skyhigh25789
:lol: Ok I know that's mean to laugh at her, but c'mon how is doing a jog' n jig gonna save you?
:rofl: She musta thought she was at a hoedown ;) :lol:
TheGreatPretender 10-25-2004, 09:05 PM Originally posted by Angela Micelli
:rofl: She musta thought she was at a hoedown ;) :lol: It looks like the dance that the Scarecrow does in the Wizard of Oz. :lol:
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-25-2004, 09:06 PM Originally posted by skyhigh25789
:lol: Ok I know that's mean to laugh at her, but c'mon how is doing a jog' n jig gonna save you? :lol:
She must've felt so ****ing stupid that the only thing she could do was to make herself look even more stupid. If I were her, I would've just started singing with the song again. I'm so sick of that lyp-syncing ****. People can't sing anymore, there's no real talent. I feel bad for the girl, but God...
spunkygirl 10-25-2004, 09:10 PM Originally posted by skyhigh25789
It looks like the dance that the Scarecrow does in the Wizard of Oz. :lol:
LMFAO it does :rotflmao:
TheGreatPretender 10-25-2004, 09:10 PM Originally posted by *A TV People*
:lol:
She must've felt so ****ing stupid that the only thing she could do was to make herself look even more stupid. If I were her, I would've just started singing with the song again. I'm so sick of that lyp-syncing ****. People can't sing anymore, there's no real talent. I feel bad for the girl, but God...
I feel bad for her too. She is just like the other "singers" today that lip sync at concerts. She just was caught. I wasn't even surprised when I heard the vocals on the track. It's kind of obvious.....
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 09:13 PM Anyone else watching the RMA's? Everytime they announce the performers they always mention Ashlee's 'doing it LIVE!' Theyre really getting their point across.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 09:19 PM If they mention shes doing Autobiography LIVE one more time, Im gonna start throwing produce.
ilovethe80s 10-25-2004, 09:21 PM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
Anyone else watching the RMA's? Everytime they announce the performers they always mention Ashlee's 'doing it LIVE!' Theyre really getting their point across.
LOL I just turned to the channel it was on a minute ago and was watching it between commericals and i saw a lady saying all the performances coming up and she said "Ashlee Simpson sings 'Autobiography' live". I wonder if she will get booed or not. I really hope not. I can't wait to see what happens.
vashti1999 10-25-2004, 09:21 PM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
If they mention shes doing Autobiography LIVE one more time, Im gonna start throwing produce.
:lol: I was about to say the same thing. I never heard the words "Ashlee Simpson live" together so much in my life.
TheGreatPretender 10-25-2004, 09:26 PM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
If they mention shes doing Autobiography LIVE one more time, Im gonna start throwing produce.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are talking about this for quite a while, nevermind two days after. I mean look what they did with that Madonna/ Britney thing.
Originally posted by AKA
Boo hoo, Ashlee. I don't feel the slightest bit sorry for you. No, that was a lousy letter she posted. She is handling this whole mess pathetically. I'm still unforgiving of her 'blame the band' comments that she made at the end of the show. If her true colors weren't exposed by the foul up they were when she tried to push it off on them.
ilovethe80s 10-25-2004, 09:28 PM Originally posted by skyhigh25789
I wouldn't be surprised if they are talking about this for quite a while, nevermind two days after. I mean look what they did with that Madonna/ Britney thing.
Well she is talking about the Radio Music Awards which are on NBC right now. And Ashlee Simpson is supposed to be there singing 'Autobiography' live. Which they keep saying over and over again.
vashti1999 10-25-2004, 09:35 PM They're definitely overdoing it. It's cool if Ashlee wants to use this awards show to prove that she doesn't always lip synch, but by them saying live, live, live with every mention of her name, that's not helping to erase the memory of the SNL non-performance.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 09:35 PM Originally posted by vashti1999
:lol: I was about to say the same thing. I never heard the words "Ashlee Simpson live" together so much in my life. Yah its really starting to get tiring. I wonder if the constant reminder will have a negative effect too.
The Modfather 10-25-2004, 09:40 PM If she gets booed I'd laugh my a$$ off.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 09:46 PM They finally mentioned Ashlee without being 'LIVE!', but then! Right at the end.. 'did I mention shes live?' :explode:
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 09:53 PM LOl, I found that amusing. She was able to poke fun at herself.
ilovethe80s 10-25-2004, 09:53 PM She's singing now
ilovethe80s 10-25-2004, 10:13 PM
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 10:13 PM Ashlee is coming up again to answer her critics. I wonder what shes gonna say. Honestly, even Britney didnt go through all this crap. Though, she was never officially 'caught' on live TV like that.
¤I Love Clay Aiken¤ 10-25-2004, 10:17 PM Ashlee is going to be on the Today show tomorrow with Katie Couric for an 'exclusive interview'. My God. And the music they played was so damn mellowdramatic. It sounded like the intro for 'Thursday, on a very special Friends...'
Hollow 10-25-2004, 11:20 PM Originally posted by skyhigh25789
It looks like the dance that the Scarecrow does in the Wizard of Oz. :lol:
:rofl: OH MY GOD IT DOES.
I am Him 10-25-2004, 11:51 PM Funny how she did the Milli Vanilli dance during the mishap :lol:
snl75 10-26-2004, 12:17 AM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
SNL used to have "hip" music guests, now they have trendy ones. If I want trendy, I'd watch TRL on MTV same here
Superstar 10-26-2004, 03:19 AM :( :rolleyes:
Janice 10-26-2004, 09:25 AM http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041026/D85V3OAG1.html
Simpson Dad Blames Acid Reflux for Gaffe
NEW YORK (AP) - If Ashlee Simpson's stomach was upset Saturday night, imagine how she's feeling now. The 19-year-old singer was busted for a "Saturday Night Live" lip-synch gone awry. Her manager-father said Monday his daughter used the extra help because acid reflux disease had made her voice hoarse.
"Just like any artist in America, she has a backing track that she pushes so you don't have to hear her croak through a song on national television," Joe Simpson told Ryan Seacrest on Los Angeles radio station KIIS-FM. "No one wants to hear that."
He insisted it would be Ashlee's live voice alone during her appearance on NBC's "Radio Music Awards" Monday night.
And he said she's never used the extra help onstage before.
"The whole situation was a bummer," Ashlee Simpson said in an interview on MTV's "Total Request Live."
Simpson had performed her hit single "Pieces of Me" without incident earlier on "SNL." When she came back a second time, her band started playing and the first lines of her singing "Pieces of Me" could be heard again.
She was holding her microphone at her waist at the time. Simpson looked momentarily confused as the band plowed ahead with the song and the vocal was quickly silenced.
A flustered Simpson made some exaggerated hopping dance moves, then walked off the stage.
She told "TRL" that she and her band didn't know what to do. "I think all of us went into a state of shock," she said.
The incident exposed what many consider an obvious secret: that some singers who appear onstage aren't singing live at all, or at least have their voices augmented by backing tracks. And it's happened before on "Saturday Night Live," too, executive producer Lorne Michaels told the Associated Press.
"She was mortified and in her dressing room, but (producer) Marci (Klein) got her to come out for goodnights and explained that it wasn't the end of the world. It wasn't her fault," Michaels told AP Radio.
"Every artist that I know in this business has had vocal problems at some time - from Celine on down," said Joe Simpson, also father of Jessica Simpson. "So you've got to do what you've got to do."
He said it was his decision to use the tapes when it became apparent that acid reflux disease had swollen Ashlee's vocal cords. After consulting Wayne Newton's doctor, she received a cortisone shot to get her ready for the "Radio Music Awards," he said.
It was the band's drummer who pushed the wrong button onstage, he said.
Said Michaels: "If she were a more seasoned performer then I think that she would've taken charge and said, 'No, let's start this over again.'"
To add to Ashlee's indignity Monday, eBay.com was auctioning off her private cell phone number, which it said had been inadvertently, and briefly, posted on her Web site.
spunkygirl 10-26-2004, 11:05 AM Originally posted by Janice
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041026/D85V3OAG1.html
Simpson Dad Blames Acid Reflux for Gaffe
NEW YORK (AP) - If Ashlee Simpson's stomach was upset Saturday night, imagine how she's feeling now. The 19-year-old singer was busted for a "Saturday Night Live" lip-synch gone awry. Her manager-father said Monday his daughter used the extra help because acid reflux disease had made her voice hoarse.
"Just like any artist in America, she has a backing track that she pushes so you don't have to hear her croak through a song on national television," Joe Simpson told Ryan Seacrest on Los Angeles radio station KIIS-FM. "No one wants to hear that."
He insisted it would be Ashlee's live voice alone during her appearance on NBC's "Radio Music Awards" Monday night.
And he said she's never used the extra help onstage before.
"The whole situation was a bummer," Ashlee Simpson said in an interview on MTV's "Total Request Live."
Simpson had performed her hit single "Pieces of Me" without incident earlier on "SNL." When she came back a second time, her band started playing and the first lines of her singing "Pieces of Me" could be heard again.
She was holding her microphone at her waist at the time. Simpson looked momentarily confused as the band plowed ahead with the song and the vocal was quickly silenced.
A flustered Simpson made some exaggerated hopping dance moves, then walked off the stage.
She told "TRL" that she and her band didn't know what to do. "I think all of us went into a state of shock," she said.
The incident exposed what many consider an obvious secret: that some singers who appear onstage aren't singing live at all, or at least have their voices augmented by backing tracks. And it's happened before on "Saturday Night Live," too, executive producer Lorne Michaels told the Associated Press.
"She was mortified and in her dressing room, but (producer) Marci (Klein) got her to come out for goodnights and explained that it wasn't the end of the world. It wasn't her fault," Michaels told AP Radio.
"Every artist that I know in this business has had vocal problems at some time - from Celine on down," said Joe Simpson, also father of Jessica Simpson. "So you've got to do what you've got to do."
He said it was his decision to use the tapes when it became apparent that acid reflux disease had swollen Ashlee's vocal cords. After consulting Wayne Newton's doctor, she received a cortisone shot to get her ready for the "Radio Music Awards," he said.
It was the band's drummer who pushed the wrong button onstage, he said.
Said Michaels: "If she were a more seasoned performer then I think that she would've taken charge and said, 'No, let's start this over again.'"
To add to Ashlee's indignity Monday, eBay.com was auctioning off her private cell phone number, which it said had been inadvertently, and briefly, posted on her Web site.
:rotflmao: OMG I wish they'd make up their minds.
Acid reflux isn't that bad, I have it, it's one thing if she had an ulcer, but acid reflux she could have taken pepcid or something, she would have been fine within a short time.
:grr: Sorry I don't buy that story
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-26-2004, 03:25 PM Originally posted by ¤I Love Clay Aiken¤
Ashlee is going to be on the Today show tomorrow with Katie Couric for an 'exclusive interview'. My God. And the music they played was so damn mellowdramatic. It sounded like the intro for 'Thursday, on a very special Friends...' ohno:
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 10-26-2004, 03:27 PM Originally posted by Janice
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20041026/D85V3OAG1.html
Said Michaels: "If she were a more seasoned performer then I think that she would've taken charge and said, 'No, let's start this over again.'"
See, Lorne knows...he just has a nicer way of putting it. ;)
AllIWantIsYourClutch 10-26-2004, 05:21 PM She messed up the words to "Autobiography" last night.
Hollow 10-26-2004, 06:33 PM Originally posted by Janice
To add to Ashlee's indignity Monday, eBay.com was auctioning off her private cell phone number, which it said had been inadvertently, and briefly, posted on her Web site.
dude there's like 500 available in one auction alone. those are some cheap ass prices too. i think im gonna buy one.
snl75 10-27-2004, 03:12 AM i cant really say anything here that hasant already been said but it was interesting that one moment lorne tries to cover for her and the next moment when reporters ask him about lip syncing by other guests on snl he just sulffed it off and refused to anwser point blank
felicitylen 10-27-2004, 09:07 AM She performed "live" on the RMA's. Did anyone watch it?
snl75 10-27-2004, 09:53 PM i watched it i really had very little interest in the awards but i wanted to see the type of reacton she would get from the crowd there i thought they were polite no more no less at least they didnt boo
vashti1999 12-05-2004, 01:53 AM Originally posted by vashti1999
I doubt that this will be included on the rebroadcast, it'll be edited out for sure.
I was wrong, they left it in tonight's repeat broadcast. I must say, it's as funny the thousandth time you see it as it was the first.
Kristina 12-05-2004, 02:02 AM she is untalented but she has a fine ass bod and shes just hot. so its ok...
p.s. y was this bumped HELLO THIS NEWS IS SO YESTERDAY. BUT NEWAYZ YA SHES HOT.
vashti1999 12-05-2004, 02:14 AM Originally posted by Kristina
she is untalented but she has a fine ass bod and shes just hot. so its ok...
p.s. y was this bumped HELLO THIS NEWS IS SO YESTERDAY. BUT NEWAYZ YA SHES HOT.
It was bumped because I was anticipating that eloquent response from you.
Originally posted by vashti1999
It was bumped because I was anticipating that eloquent response from you. Careful, Vashti. I'm not sure if she knows what "eloquent" means.
Kristina 12-05-2004, 02:20 AM Originally posted by AKA
Careful, Vashti. I'm not sure if she knows what "eloquent" means.
Well, well, well... look who is always up my ass whenever I post anything.
Get over me.
vashti1999 12-05-2004, 02:31 AM See all the trouble Ashlee Simpson starts? :eek3:
Hollow 12-05-2004, 04:38 AM ASHLEE SIMSPLSON RaWlkz!!!!!!1111:rock::rock::rock:
*Pleasant Tomorrow* 12-05-2004, 10:13 AM Hahwaw they didn't cut it out on the rerun :rofl: I love you Lorne Michaels :biglove:
Steve M. 12-05-2004, 11:33 AM Originally posted by vashti1999
See all the trouble Ashlee Simpson starts? :eek3:
Keep this thread alive,
Keep this thread alive,
Do it any way, any way you can,
Just to keep us satisfied!
:D
robyrob 12-05-2004, 01:03 PM Originally posted by *Pleasant Tomorrow*
Hahwaw they didn't cut it out on the rerun :rofl: I love you Lorne Michaels :biglove: they didnt cut it, but it WAS the shorter "mixed-down" version that the west coast viewers originally saw.
still..... :rotflmao:
SBTB Geek 12-06-2004, 02:19 AM Damn... as I begin to hate Ashlee, she comes out with a hot ass song-- "La La."
Steve M. 12-06-2004, 02:36 PM Originally posted by Kristina
she is untalented but she has a fine ass bod and shes just hot. so its ok...
No, no, no, no, no. You want hotness? This is hot! :eyes:
http://www.fg.ru/images/news_one/3695.jpg
(Estee Lauder spokesmodel Carolyn Murphy.)
Carolyn can't sing either, but at least she doesn't bother to! :lol:
Superstar 12-06-2004, 03:21 PM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
Damn... as I begin to hate Ashlee, she comes out with a hot ass song-- "La La." you like that? I cant stand it:lol:
SBTB Geek 12-06-2004, 03:35 PM Originally posted by Superstar
you like that? I cant stand it:lol:
I was being sarcastic.
Being on the topic of lip synching, did anyone see Lindsay Lohan on "Good Morning America" today?... She messed up "Rumors" pretty bad.
Superstar 12-06-2004, 03:36 PM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I was being sarcastic.
Being on the topic of lip synching, did anyone see Lindsay Lohan on "Good Morning America" today?... She messed up "Rumors" pretty bad.
sorry:)
I didn't see her, I like Lindsay but she cant sing for her life
MissZero 12-06-2004, 03:36 PM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
I was being sarcastic.
Being on the topic of lip synching, did anyone see Lindsay Lohan on "Good Morning America" today?... She messed up "Rumors" pretty bad.
LMAO...I wish I could've saw it.
SBTB Geek 12-06-2004, 05:03 PM Originally posted by Superstar
sorry:)
I didn't see her, I like Lindsay but she cant sing for her life
1. Nothing to be sorry about.
2. About Lindsay--- I agree.
AllIWantIsYourClutch 12-06-2004, 05:50 PM Originally posted by SBTB Geek
Being on the topic of lip synching, did anyone see Lindsay Lohan on "Good Morning America" today?... She messed up "Rumors" pretty bad. Did she lip sync?
Dean Winchester 12-06-2004, 07:03 PM I honestly like Lindsay's song. I think Britney-inspired dance-pop is a lot more "believable" from a rich teen princess-gone-singer. People like Hilary and Ashlee are supposed to make it out like they are so hard and everything, but when they did shows like Lizzie McGuire and 7th Heaven, professing to be hardcore is laughable. I definately like Rumors more than any of Hilary's songs, she knows people will never take her seriously if she tried to be a rock singer.
AllIWantIsYourClutch 12-06-2004, 07:15 PM Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I honestly like Lindsay's song. I think Britney-inspired dance-pop is a lot more "believable" from a rich teen princess-gone-singer. People like Hilary and Ashlee are supposed to make it out like they are so hard and everything, but when they did shows like Lizzie McGuire and 7th Heaven, professing to be hardcore is laughable. I definately like Rumors more than any of Hilary's songs, she knows people will never take her seriously if she tried to be a rock singer. I agree (though I do like Ashlee too)... Lindsay Lohan is not the same as Hilary Duff. Hilary...just...no.
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