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GARFIELDKOOL 10-09-2004, 11:17 AM Ah-Chu, Rodney, Mrs. Hopkins, Hutch, That dude near the end of the series that always said, "Yesssssssss" the Fritzi Burr character. These were all minor characters. they should have gave Leroy and Skillet more air time.
glenny 10-09-2004, 12:19 PM I really never cared too much for Leroy and Skillet. But Rodney, Frances, and Mrs. Hopkins definitely were not needed
Lady T 10-09-2004, 12:22 PM Originally posted by GARFIELDKOOL
Ah-Chu, Rodney, Mrs. Hopkins, Hutch, That dude near the end of the series that always said, "Yesssssssss" the Fritzi Burr character. These were all minor characters. they should have gave Leroy and Skillet more air time. Rodney Sucked, he and that annoying Officer Hopkins...
mooseface 10-11-2004, 02:03 PM Originally posted by Undercover Angel
Rodney Sucked, he and that annoying Officer Hopkins, are the reason why I do not find white men attractive...
Well geez - we don't *all* look like that!! :)
Jefffalan 10-11-2004, 11:10 PM OR act like that!!! LOL
TVFactFan 10-12-2004, 12:30 AM I don't think the Police Officers were needed at all.
Jrnygrl 10-12-2004, 02:23 AM Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I don't think the Police Officers were needed at all.
I think they did, it was a kind of social statement. At least IMO.
hoosierelvisfan 10-12-2004, 08:45 AM Originally posted by Undercover Angel
. . . are the reason why I do not find white men attractive...
Oh my!!!! :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek:
Moving on . . . ahem . . . from that rather interesting comment :rolleyes: I agree with the aforementioned message from GarfieldKool, I thought that Rodney, Mrs. Hopkins, and Hutch really weren't needed. Rodney, especially, was very irritating. Mrs. Hopkins was irritating too but by the time she entered the scene the series had already started going downhill. Plus I think they sort of had that character in there because it lent a kind of "star-power" to S & S because it was "Miss Hathaway" playing the part of Mrs. Hopkins. With Hutch, it wasn't so much that he was irritating, it was rather, he really wasn't much more than background or scenery on the set. He was there to say yes, no, hello, Fred, etc. That's about it. They should have given Hutch's character more importance to fill it out more.
Signed,
Respectfully,
Dutch
GARFIELDKOOL 10-12-2004, 11:07 AM Smitty and Hoppy were needed. Undercover Angel, what color are you? Just out of curiosity since you made that comment.
Lady T 10-12-2004, 11:10 AM Originally posted by mooseface
Well geez - we don't *all* look like that!! :) That post was very out of line and I do apologize...
Lady T 10-12-2004, 11:14 AM Originally posted by hoosierelvisfan
Oh my!!!! :eek: :confused: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek:
Moving on . . . ahem . . . from that rather interesting comment :rolleyes: I agree with the aforementioned message from GarfieldKool, I thought that Rodney, Mrs. Hopkins, and Hutch really weren't needed. Rodney, especially, was very irritating. Mrs. Hopkins was irritating too but by the time she entered the scene the series had already started going downhill. Plus I think they sort of had that character in there because it lent a kind of "star-power" to S & S because it was "Miss Hathaway" playing the part of Mrs. Hopkins. With Hutch, it wasn't so much that he was irritating, it was rather, he really wasn't much more than background or scenery on the set. He was there to say yes, no, hello, Fred, etc. That's about it. They should have given Hutch's character more importance to fill it out more.
Signed,
Respectfully,
Dutch
I am deeply embarrassed by my statement; which was meant to be funny, but unfortunately, it is of very bad taste...Sorry, if I offended anyone with with my rather TACTLESS remark..I truly deserve the:rolleyes: Smilie....
hoosierelvisfan 10-12-2004, 12:57 PM Oh, don't worry about it . . . I think it's happened to all of us at one time or another---i.e., written things that came out sounding different from the way we meant them when we wrote them.
Signed,
Respectfully,
Dutch
Lady T 10-12-2004, 01:49 PM Originally posted by hoosierelvisfan
Oh, don't worry about it . . . I think it's happened to all of us at one time or another---i.e., written things that came out sounding different from the way we meant them when we wrote them.
Signed,
Respectfully,
Dutch
I am quite embarrassed by my remake, and it was quite rude and quite stupid for I to make such a racist comment, but I for one, I am not a judgemental person...it was just one of those comments when you do not "THINK" before you do; and I once again deeply sorry for being so stupid...
GARFIELDKOOL 10-12-2004, 02:34 PM Undercover Angel, I didn't mean no harm. I didn't know you were joking. I'm sorry. I try not to play the race card on this board. I thought that statement you made was funny that why I was curious. I apoligize if that came out the wrong way. I apoligize to all others on this board, too. I'm an African-American. I was a victim of a racist comment on another web page, but I just let it go in one ear and out the other.
Jefffalan 10-12-2004, 02:56 PM One thing's for sure, no matter what race we are, we all love Sanford and Son, which proves that it's a comedy that transcends color, age, and whatever else. That's a testament to the lasting freshness this sitcom still has, and will have for years to come! Glad to be a part of this board!!! Cheers
Lady T 10-12-2004, 03:06 PM Originally posted by GARFIELDKOOL
Undercover Angel, I didn't mean no harm. I didn't know you were joking. I'm sorry. I try not to play the race card on this board. I thought that statement you made was funny that why I was curious. I apoligize if that came out the wrong way. I apoligize to all others on this board, too. I'm an African-American. I was a victim of a racist comment on another web page, but I just let it go in one ear and out the other. No, you were totally cool..I was not..with my stupid statement; I judge people by their characters and not by the color of their skin..
Lady T 10-12-2004, 03:08 PM Originally posted by Jefffalan
One thing's for sure, no matter what race we are, we all love Sanford and Son, which proves that it's a comedy that transcends color, age, and whatever else. That's a testament to the lasting freshness this sitcom still has, and will have for years to come! Glad to be a part of this board!!! Cheers Amen to that...Sanford and Son makes everybody laugh regardless of race, creed, etc, etc, and it is still funny to this day..30 years later...
mooseface 10-12-2004, 03:54 PM Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I don't think the Police Officers were needed at all.
I disagree. They had a few good moments, a couple of which come to mind:
- The ghetto-speak "translations" that Smitty made for Fred and Lamont after Hoppy or Swanny said something in police-speak; and
- The time Fred was trying to cue Smitty and Swanny in that the robber was in the house. Swanny thought Fred had smog in his eyes! LOL
Probably my favorite Hoppy moment was in the ep. where Rodney is introduced. Hoppy says to Fred - "remember, a man is innocent until proven guilty" - then walks ot the door and says to Smitty - "poor Fred, he has a brother-in-law who's guilty."
(Not sure *why* I find that funny, but I do!) :)
Jefffalan 10-12-2004, 04:59 PM I always liked the Swanny character(Noam Pitlik?) a little more than Hoppy, even though he was only on for the first season or so(72-73). He seemed less stupid and more Gung-Ho and naive, sort of like a wannabee Jack Webb a'la Dragnet.
Lady T 10-13-2004, 11:47 AM Originally posted by Jefffalan
I always liked the Swanny character(Noam Pitlik?) a little more than Hoppy, even though he was only on for the first season or so(72-73). He seemed less stupid and more Gung-Ho and naive, sort of like a wannabee Jack Webb a'la Dragnet. I love Noam Pitlik PERIOD; he is one of the greatest television directors...
GARFIELDKOOL 10-13-2004, 12:05 PM Swanny and Hoppy were both funny in their own way.
nerrad 10-13-2004, 03:20 PM Ah-Chu and Hutch. Everytime I see Hutch, I think of him dying in the Evanses living room.:wave:
Jefffalan 10-13-2004, 03:52 PM It's a shame that Noam Pitlik(Swanny) has passed away. I found out he died of lung cancer in 1999. He was good on the show.
TVFactFan 10-13-2004, 06:20 PM I don't think Woody was needed either. Did viewers really care about Aunt Esther's Love Life?-lol
Lady T 10-13-2004, 07:23 PM Originally posted by Jefffalan
It's a shame that Noam Pitlik(Swanny) has passed away. I found out he died of lung cancer in 1999. He was good on the show. He was great on The Bob Newhart Show as well:) (Swanny was good while his replacement Hoppy was an imbelice)
Jefffalan 10-13-2004, 07:27 PM Yeah, I caught him on The Bob Newhart Show as Mr. Gianelli. He was really good there too. Glad someone agrees with me, Hoppy was just toooo over-the-top stupid. Wish they would've stuck with Swanny . . .
Lady T 10-13-2004, 07:53 PM Originally posted by Jefffalan
Yeah, I caught him on The Bob Newhart Show as Mr. Gianelli. He was really good there too. Glad someone agrees with me, Hoppy was just toooo over-the-top stupid. Wish they would've stuck with Swanny . . . Hoppy was very over the top stupid, which was a shame, because Howard Platt is a very talented character actor...
Jefffalan 10-13-2004, 08:55 PM Yeah, HE was on Bob Newhart too, I think. He played a pompous doctor in a few of the episodes.
Lady T 10-13-2004, 09:00 PM Originally posted by Jefffalan
Yeah, HE was on Bob Newhart too, I think. He played a pompous doctor in a few of the episodes. He was in a few episodes of Barney Miller as well, playing different characters with vast different personalities; he is a very versatile performer; because you would not recognize Howard Platt at first, because he was not playing an imbelice like it did when he was performing as the Hoppy character...
Jefffalan 10-13-2004, 09:10 PM I remember him on Barney Miller, now that you mention it. He did play some versatile types, because one of the characters was an intellectual, COMPLETELY different from the Hoppy character. I think Hoppy actually got MORE stupid toward the end of the series. When he first came on, he was a little more like Swanny, just kind of naive. Later, they made him just plain cartoonish, almost like the J.J. character from Good Times. Just my opinion . . .
magellan333 10-13-2004, 11:53 PM Hutch came and went too fast. It seems to me that they were gearing him up the be Grady's replacement. We can add Janet to the not needed list, right along with Roger. I think Woodrow was great on the show. Definitely a good addition. Lastly, who was Rodney? Was he Fred's white brother in law?
GARFIELDKOOL 10-14-2004, 10:25 AM Yes, that was Rodney. I don't know why they wrote him into the series. To me, he was in the way.
glenny 10-14-2004, 03:57 PM From what i understand Fred discovered him in Las Vegas and wanted to put him in his show.
Jrnygrl 10-14-2004, 04:25 PM Originally posted by Jefffalan
Yeah, I caught him on The Bob Newhart Show as Mr. Gianelli. He was really good there too. Glad someone agrees with me, Hoppy was just toooo over-the-top stupid. Wish they would've stuck with Swanny . . .
He was soooooo funny as Mr. Gianelli!!!:lol: :lol:
Noam Pitlik, was a great talent. No matter what show he was on he made his presence obvious. Great character actor. Late went on to direct alot of sitcoms. I think he has a son who is now a director as well.
I also liked Swanny better than Hoppy.
Lady T 10-15-2004, 01:27 AM Originally posted by Jrnygrl
He was soooooo funny as Mr. Gianelli!!!:lol: :lol:
Noam Pitlik, was a great talent. No matter what show he was on he made his presence obvious. Great character actor. Late went on to direct alot of sitcoms. I think he has a son who is now a director as well.
I also liked Swanny better than Hoppy. Pitlik did direct a lot of sitcoms; here is a few that he worked on...
Wings
Mr. Belvedere
Night Court
Hello Larry
Taxi
Alice
One Day at a Time
Barney Miller
That's my Mama
magellan333 10-16-2004, 02:54 PM Was Rodney on more than one show? I recall him only appearing one time. It wasn't all that bad of an episode.
GARFIELDKOOL 10-18-2004, 10:37 AM He was on a few episodes.
casualts@cox.net 08-27-2006, 10:54 PM the black sit coms of the 70s regularly made fun of caucasions, its a fact
Sammy Reed 08-28-2006, 09:13 PM Was Rodney on more than one show? I recall him only appearing one time. It wasn't all that bad of an episode.
He was on the episode where they went on "The Gong Show".
Joey Deadcat 08-29-2006, 05:05 AM Rodney also appeared when he, Fred, and Bubba(was it Bubba?) performed at a theater that was bringing back vaudville. Rodney's doing some stand-up and gets heckled. I believe "Lenny The Looter" plays the emcee.
Also, the actor who played Rodney appeared as a cab driver in the Redd Foxx movie, Norman Is That You.
snl 70s show fan 08-29-2006, 05:01 PM i never cared for ah chu i never found him funny or interesting
howilu 08-29-2006, 05:54 PM One character that hasn't been mentioned was Melvin, played by Slappy White. He only appeared in a few first season episodes and it looked like he didn't add much, except for Fred frequently saying "Shut up, Melvin!"
comedyfreak 08-29-2006, 06:48 PM Ah-Chu, Rodney, Mrs. Hopkins, Hutch, That dude near the end of the series that always said, "Yesssssssss" the Fritzi Burr character. These were all minor characters. they should have gave Leroy and Skillet more air time.
I agree with your picks, accept for Ah-Chu who was funnier and more enjoyable to watch more so than Mrs. Hopkins, Hutch, and Fritzi Burr.
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