I searched the gentleman's name who was the target of all of those insane phone calls from a group that called themselves "L'Enfant". I found a couple of things, but strangely nothing mentioned the phone calls, his segment on UM, or anything. It did however mention that he owns a couple of restaurants. Also, there is no indication of him being in a mental institution...

http://www.kacj.org/Founder.html

After clicking on Blackhawks link, I did a Google search for "Gaby Kouchacji" and came across the following site:

www.doubtcome.com

The sketch shown at the bottom of the "welcome" section looks alot like Bashir and in the "feedback" section people mention dining at Kouchacji's "Marakkesh Restaurant". I wonder if it's the same guy, and if so I assume he isn't being harassed anymore, otherwise why would he be on such a public forum. Maybe one of you guys has the balls to contact him through this site and see if its the same guy...I just don't want to offend anyone.:o

that has GOT to be him!

It seems as though Bashir has gotten out of the hospital at least and has continued to be a success in business. I suspect that those "l'enfant" calls must have stopped long ago.

Thanks for the info everyone.

This is one of my all time favorite UM episodes. Those phone calls were so spooky, the laughing, the gun fire....yikes!

Chris

Glad to hear he apparently owns a couple restaurants again. If he does, then I'm happy for him after what he went through. Wonder who was harassing him, tho? One of my favorite segments that I never tire of watching.

The L'Enfant episode featured one of the best WTF moments in UM history. The victim is in a behavioral/mental health unit somewhere attempting to maintain his sanity after the onslaught of anonymous calls from L'Enfant. He walks up to the duty nurse and asks her if he received any messages, and she responds, "L'Enfant called twice, and ..." WTF! Nurse do you mind not telling the patient that the person whose terrorized him and possibly kidnapped him and his son is still trying to contact him?!? And BTW, can we please run a trace at least once out of the 1,112 times he calls?

The L'Enfant episode featured one of the best WTF moments in UM history. The victim is in a behavioral/mental health unit somewhere attempting to maintain his sanity after the onslaught of anonymous calls from L'Enfant. He walks up to the duty nurse and asks her if he received any messages, and she responds, "L'Enfant called twice, and ..." WTF! Nurse do you mind not telling the patient that the person whose terrorized him and possibly kidnapped him and his son is still trying to contact him?!? And BTW, can we please run a trace at least once out of the 1,112 times he calls?

That WAS funny...

Kind of like someone being in the hospital for being obese and the nurse saying, "I put a hot fudge sundae out in the hall that you can't, eat... Just thought you should know." Good stuff.

I hope that poor guy is better. That was such a weird case. I still remember a little kid laughing on those calls. Spooky! :crazy:

Hmm, I don't remember this one? Can someone refresh my memory? Is it on any of CD's discs?

Glad to be back btw, took a two week vacation to get married/honeymoon!

Hmm, I don't remember this one? Can someone refresh my memory? Is it on any of CD's discs?

Glad to be back btw, took a two week vacation to get married/honeymoon!

Yes its on one of my compilation dvds. I haven't seen it in a while but I believe he was kidnapped years earlier and eventually released. Then while living in the UM was plagued by threatening calls for years. One time his young son was even assaulted. He ended up living in a psychicatric hospital where these unknown people would continue to call him there. I am very glad that he has seemed to been able to get on with his life.

Welcome back..:)

Yes its on one of my compilation dvds. I haven't seen it in a while but I believe he was kidnapped years earlier and eventually released. Then while living in the UM was plagued by threatening calls for years. One time his young son was even assaulted. He ended up living in a psychicatric hospital where these unknown people would continue to call him there. I am very glad that he has seemed to been able to get on with his life.

Welcome back..:)

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I still don't get it. To keep things simple, what CD set is it on?

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I still don't get it. To keep things simple, what CD set is it on?

Its titled "L'Enfant" and its on volume 2.

Hmm, I don't remember this one? Can someone refresh my memory? Is it on any of CD's discs?

Glad to be back btw, took a two week vacation to get married/honeymoon!

Congratulations!!!

That was the one where someone sabatoged the guy's jeep and it caught on fire. He took it to a mechanic and said that someone was definitly trying to hurt him...just saw volume 2 recently.

can anyone alert me as to how i can get ahold of the dvds? i really love the show and am extremely interested in this story..

can anyone alert me as to how i can get ahold of the dvds? i really love the show and am extremely interested in this story..

Too little, too late, my friend!

I just saw this episode for the first time out of all the years of watching Unsolved Mysteries. I wonder what would drive a group to terrorize a man over and over again.

I watched this today. I think it's only the 2nd time I've seen this segment.

They said that Bashir checked himself into a psychiatric facility and lived there for 6 years. That's sounds awfully strange. How could he afford that hugely expensive stay, and who would want to live in a looney bin? I'm wondering if the US gov't possibly had him in some sort of protective custody but they decided to say "psychiatric facility" on the program for security or other reasons.

That would help explain why the "nurse" at the facility informed him that'd he'd received a couple calls from L'enfant one day. My experience with a relative in a psych unit of a hospital was that patients didn't get any incoming calls at all. Visitors had to leave money at the nurse's desk for the patient to make outgoing calls on the pay phone during approved telephone hours.

I've never been in a prison, but visiting that place seemed about like how I'd imagine general population at a prison to be. Patients were able to interact with each other in common rooms, but they couldn't close doors to their hospital rooms or bathrooms. There was also crime in the common rooms, patient rooms, and hallways there. The unit took up most of one floor at a local hospital. I find it hard to believe that Bashir would want to live in such a place for 6 years.... unless he was ridiculously rich and went to stay at some kind of a resort hospital that was nothing like the lockdown psych ward my relative was in.

All this L'enfant stuff started in the 1970s when Bashir and his wife and child/children were living in or near Beirut, Lebanon. That's where he was when he was kidnapped, held, and tortured every 2 hours. When he slit his wrists with a piece of sharp plastic, the kidnappers took him to a hospital. From there, he was able to get doctors to help him and he and his family were able to leave Lebanon and come to the US. I think that part of the story sounds strange too. Why would kidnapper/torturers who were as sophisticated in their crimes as Bashir describes care enough to take their suffering victim to a hospital?

Bashir says that he was a US citizen at the time of his kidnapping, that he thought he could just explain that fact to his captors, and the misunderstanding would be quickly cleared up. I would think that telling kidnappers in 1970s Lebanon that you were a US citizen would tend to make you more of a target than convince them to release you. Wouldn't the bad guys there be more likely to make victims of americans, and not accidentally kidnap them, say "oops", and then release them just because they're from the US? Wasn't this the time when Hezbollah was forming in Lebanon and there was a lot of anti-American and anti-Israeli activity going on?

I don't know if UM was trying to make the wife look suspicious on purpose or if it just sorta seemed that way, but her character came across as a bit too mysterious. I think Bashir made allusions to her having connections to some less than trustworthy government or anti-government types. He was supposedly on his way to pick her up from a party when he was abducted. Some time after they arrived in the US, they were divorced.

After coming to the US, he became a successful restaurateur and hobnobbed with some famous people whose photographs were shown during the segment. It seems like Oliver North and Clint Eastwood were included in those photos, not that it means anything....

If this whole thing was international intrigue type stuff, why would Bashir go public on UM asking for help in identifying the multiple people who were harassing him?

And wasn't the child who was beaten up the son of the guy who took over Bashir's restaurants while he was away in the mental hospital? I thought the caller started targeting that guy and his family once Bashir was out of the picture, or maybe they were unaware that Bashir was no longer working and they accidentally went after the new guy? idk... I've already forgotten half of what I saw and it was only 2 hours ago! gah!

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-08-19/news/vw-5724_1_phone-call

This article says that Bashir Kuchacji is a catholic armenian. It comes right out and says that he suffered post traumatic stress disorder after being kidnaped and tortured in Lebanon by the PLO. I don't remember UM saying that it was the PLO who had taken him.

Part of the harassment included someone scratching the star of David into the paint of his Mercedes. That doesn't make any sense at all. Bashir is catholic, the star of david represents judaism, and the PLO is a militant muslim group. Why wouldn't they scratch christian crosses into the car? Or did they think he was jewish and harassed him because of that or some link he had to judaism? (Sorry, I don't really understand a lot of what goes on with these religious political groups.)

The article also states that Bashir checked himself into the psychiatric ward of Sibley Memorial Hospital in 1987 and stayed there off and on for about 5 years.

He was born in Syria and raised in lebanon, where he married an american singer. He was only in Beirut in 1974 because his wife had been booked for an extended singing engagement. I guess that would explain the parties and connections with local muckity mucks.

This part was interesting: His wife "had been invited to a women-only party thrown by a Saudi princess, and Kouchacji had agreed to pick her up at 11:30. But the time came and went, and she didn't appear. After waiting until 1 a.m., Kouchacji decided he had the wrong address, and left."

That helps me understand a bit more about what seemed so suspicious about his abduction. I'm thinking it was a set-up. His wife gave vague answers about where she really was that night and Bashir won't reveal her name. The article says "State Department documents that Kouchacji has obtained under the FOIA indicate he was kidnaped by a rogue faction of the PLO which mistakenly believed he was a CIA agent--a foreigner driving a Mercedes with Belgian plates in a neighborhood where he didn't belong."

Bashir says that he was neither arab nor jew and basically had no dog in that political fight, but in order to fight back against L'enfant and to repair his reputation, "beginning in January [1992?], he and the restaurant have placed a series of ads in the Sunday opinion sections of the Washington Post and Washington Times. Most of the ads feature a large "USA!" headline, with copy leaning toward exhortative political homilies on the order of "only the United States can ensure that the new world order will be truly responsive to the rights and needs of the oppressed."

That article is about 6 short pages, and very interesting. It gives a lot more info than UM did... or at least the version of the segment that I saw.

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Ugh... the last line of that article creeped me out. "The L'Efant should have grown up a long time ago... but it is the same voice." the fact that a person or individuals would keep harassing the same person (and his friends, family and coworkers, no less!) is very chilling. :eek: :(

I wish this case would be solved.

While looking up something totally unrelated to the L'Enfant case, I ran across a book written by a woman who claims to be the target of a Group Stalking, aka Gang Stalking, Organized Stalking, Cause Stalking, Community Based Harassment, Vigilante Stalking, and Terrorist Stalking (not *those* terrorists, but rather meaning that they are terrorizing the victim).

Most of the sites I found on this subject really seem to be of the "conspiracy theory" variety and some of their claims are outlandish. They believe it's all a collaboration between right wing hate groups and police and even fire department personnel. They claim that the stalkers are from all age groups and economic levels.

Yep, they try to get us to believe that ultra rich right wing conspirators are recruited by the government to follow the victims around in organized shifts, steal their mail, deliberately cause pregnancy miscarriages, commit serious crimes and falsely accuse the victim of being the real perpetrator, call them bad names in drive by verbal assaults, sabotage their jobs until they get fired, turn straight men gay in a bizarre incarnation of homophobia, and sneak into people's homes at night to drug them in their sleep.

While seeming to be a motiveless crime, the victims (or so-called victims, I'm not sure how real this is) say that there actually can be a motive far beyond the twisted amusement of the stalker. Motives include witness intimidation, using fear to silence a person who may provide authorities with incriminating information on the stalkers or the people employing the stalkers, and causing an undesirable resident to move or commit suicide for the betterment of the local community.

That last one reminds me of the plot of the movie Hot Fuzz where misspelling newspaper writers, untalented actors in the community theater group, and people who build ostentatious homes not fitting the local aesthetic are all eliminated in the name of the Greater Good.

As insane as all that sounds, it got me to thinking about Bashir's case and how it seemed that there were a large number of people who were tormenting him. I wasn't convinced that he was being victimized, but maybe this thing really does exist (in a significantly less conspiratorial way) and these kinds of tactics were used on Bashir for whatever reason. Possibly so the wife could get rid of him without a divorce, since it looks like she might have set up the fake appointment for him to come pick her up from a party.

Anyone ever hear of this kind of thing? Is it a known hoax that I'm unaware of? Do these victims believe that every instance of bad luck is caused by gang stalkers assigned to them by an organized syndicate? Are these massive stalking tactics actually used by some people to torment their victims?

Yep, they try to get us to believe that ultra rich right wing conspirators are recruited by the government to follow the victims around in organized shifts, steal their mail, deliberately cause pregnancy miscarriages, commit serious crimes and falsely accuse the victim of being the real perpetrator, call them bad names in drive by verbal assaults, sabotage their jobs until they get fired, turn straight men gay in a bizarre incarnation of homophobia, and sneak into people's homes at night to drug them in their sleep.

How did you find out!? Who talked!? I happen to be one of those ultra rich right wing conspirators...so it's absolutely possible. It's all for the greater good. (My co-conspirators are currently saying "the greater good.") :lol:

lol

:::the greater good:::

Seriously though. what did these people do on there downtime? "Alright guys... you did a great job stalking/harassing today. whaddya say we take a break and get some Wings and Beers?"

The harassment was literally a full time job. I couldn't imagine the perps *not* being a terrorist organization or at the very least not funded by someone sketchy. no normal perosn would wake up and think "ya know what? I think I'll become a full time Stalker!"

It makes me wonder who provided all of the various voices of the phone calls. (the little girl, the black child, Arab voices,) I have a feeling some sounds were tape recorded (guns firing, bombs blasting, people screaming,) and later played whenever they called.

This segment really bothered me, I feel bad for the man but every time this segment came on I always changed it because it bugged me not my one of my favorites...I'm done ranting LOL

I remember this case.

This always struck me as being a case of a mentally or emotionally disturbed man "victimizing" himself.
Here's why:

1) Even the late 1970's/early 1980's tracking harassing phone calls was difficult, but not that difficult. That the calls would come so frequently and almost always get to this man meant that the person instigating the calls would have know his location ALL OR MOST OF THE TIME.
2) Harassing calls almost always end when you change your telephone number. If they don't,then you've reduced the list of potential suspects and can determine who it may be doing the calling.
That this guy couldn't figure this out means to me that he knew who was doing it...or was doing it himself.
3) The name the harasser "l'enfant" would have only had significance to a person that spoke French. Why not just say "the baby" in English,or Arabic or Armenian for that matter?
Why choose a language that the person that you are attempting to harass may or may not know?
Unless you had knowledge of person speaking French...which he would ,of course,have.
4) The extended stays in a psychiatric hospital.
I've visited mental hospitals and I found them to be very unpleasant places. A brief stay might not be that bad.
But an extended stay would likely be hellish for person who is NOT mentally ill.
And while I do think that there are many corrupt and incompetent doctors,I don't think that they would allow a sane person to remain in this hospital for any length of time if they were not disturbed.

To me all of this adds up to the calls either being faked by the protagonist or the harassment being a product of his mental or emotional illnesses.

This always struck me as being a case of a mentally or emotionally disturbed man "victimizing" himself.... To me all of this adds up to the calls either being faked by the protagonist or the harassment being a product of his mental or emotional illnesses.

It certainly does have elements that are very similar to the Wacker's case and the Cindy James case, which many people believe were orchestrated by the victims themselves.

I wonder if it's possible that this is some kind of munchausen type mental problem that's not yet well known or clearly defined.

I remember this case.

This always struck me as being a case of a mentally or emotionally disturbed man "victimizing" himself.
Here's why:

1) Even the late 1970's/early 1980's tracking harassing phone calls was difficult, but not that difficult. That the calls would come so frequently and almost always get to this man meant that the person instigating the calls would have know his location ALL OR MOST OF THE TIME.

Which is not necessarily impossible if you're being followed or have people tracking your movements. That's also difficult, of course, but not that difficult, especially if you're quite experienced.

2) Harassing calls almost always end when you change your telephone number. If they don't,then you've reduced the list of potential suspects and can determine who it may be doing the calling.

That simply isn't true. Any good, legitimate intelligence analyst following all laws, regulations, or protocols can dig up a phone number. And it becomes incredibly easier if one doesn't do this legally.

3) The name the harasser "l'enfant" would have only had significance to a person that spoke French. Why not just say "the baby" in English,or Arabic or Armenian for that matter?
Why choose a language that the person that you are attempting to harass may or may not know?
Unless you had knowledge of person speaking French...which he would ,of course,have.

French is widely spoken throughout the Middle East and North Africa. Many people who speak Arabic will also speak French as a second language, due to years of French colonization, military occupations, and the like. I'm unsure if the caller actually identified himself as "L'enfant" as well. I think it may have been a name LE authorities subscribed to him. Nonetheless, it was also never specified what language the L'enfant spoke when he called, to my knowledge.

4) The extended stays in a psychiatric hospital.
I've visited mental hospitals and I found them to be very unpleasant places. A brief stay might not be that bad.
But an extended stay would likely be hellish for person who is NOT mentally ill.
And while I do think that there are many corrupt and incompetent doctors,I don't think that they would allow a sane person to remain in this hospital for any length of time if they were not disturbed.

Assuming his capture/detainment story is true, he was suicidal at one point in his life and perhaps remained so when he came to the U.S., which is reason enough to remain in a mental institution.

To me all of this adds up to the calls either being faked by the protagonist or the harassment being a product of his mental or emotional illnesses.

I'm not convinced.

1. There is a complete lack of apparent motive for him to perpetuate the supposed charade.
2. Said charade would have to involve many, many accompolices over the duration of many, many years. It's hard for me to imagine a large group of people willingly volunteering to assist in a mentally ill man's crazy plot to fake his own harassment.
3. Restaurant personnel as well as hospital staff had received the calls, and at least one became a target himself. It's interesting to note this individual was actually one of his business partners, as opposed to a random employee, nurse, or doctor. If he's "sick in the head", what stops him from pushing the scheme to envelope others such as these?
4. His doctors (one of which was interviewed in the segment, IIRC), felt his fears were indeed "based in reality".


My impression is that the events are not at all imagined and are very real. However, I feel Bashir definitely has a good idea of why he was targeted, may very well know exactly who his captors were, and may even know who was responsible for the phone calls. Perhaps out of fear, or someone discovering he may have been involved or associated with illicit groups or events, he chooses not to make known, or claims ignorance of, any of these details.

Also there is concrete proof the calls occured. the FBI provided records of the calls on the Epi. it was chilling to see how frequently he was called. also I believe if Bashir *was* making the whole thing up I think the FBI would have cleared that up fairly quickly. I tend to agree that the calls and harassment were real. :(

French is widely spoken throughout the Middle East and North Africa. Many people who speak Arabic will also speak French as a second language, due to years of French colonization, military occupations, and the like. I'm unsure if the caller actually identified himself as "L'enfant" as well. I think it may have been a name LE authorities subscribed to him. Nonetheless, it was also never specified what language the L'enfant spoke when he called, to my knowledge.

Also, anyone living in the Washington, D.C. area is familiar with the word "l'enfant" because Pierre L'Enfant was the architect who laid the plans for much of D.C. and his name is all over the place.

Also, anyone living in the Washington, D.C. area is familiar with the word "l'enfant" because Pierre L'Enfant was the architect who laid the plans for much of D.C. and his name is all over the place.

Hmmm... that's really interesting. do you think it's coincidence that the harassrers chose that name? or do you think it has something to do with the said Architect? color me intrigued.:)

Hmmm... that's really interesting. do you think it's coincidence that the harassrers chose that name? or do you think it has something to do with the said Architect? color me intrigued.:)
Yeah, I thought I'd just throw that out there, but I think it's more likely that "L'enfant" refers to the fact that the group uses children's voices to harass people. The larger point is that use of the word, even for non-francophones, is not all that uncommon in D.C. I can still hear the Metro lady pleasantly announcing "L'Enfant Plaza!" in my head from the time I lived there. :)

I remember this case.

This always struck me as being a case of a mentally or emotionally disturbed man "victimizing" himself.
Here's why:

1) Even the late 1970's/early 1980's tracking harassing phone calls was difficult, but not that difficult. That the calls would come so frequently and almost always get to this man meant that the person instigating the calls would have know his location ALL OR MOST OF THE TIME.
2) Harassing calls almost always end when you change your telephone number. If they don't,then you've reduced the list of potential suspects and can determine who it may be doing the calling.
That this guy couldn't figure this out means to me that he knew who was doing it...or was doing it himself.
3) The name the harasser "l'enfant" would have only had significance to a person that spoke French. Why not just say "the baby" in English,or Arabic or Armenian for that matter?
Why choose a language that the person that you are attempting to harass may or may not know?
Unless you had knowledge of person speaking French...which he would ,of course,have.
4) The extended stays in a psychiatric hospital.
I've visited mental hospitals and I found them to be very unpleasant places. A brief stay might not be that bad.
But an extended stay would likely be hellish for person who is NOT mentally ill.
And while I do think that there are many corrupt and incompetent doctors,I don't think that they would allow a sane person to remain in this hospital for any length of time if they were not disturbed.

To me all of this adds up to the calls either being faked by the protagonist or the harassment being a product of his mental or emotional illnesses.

1) L'enfant didn't necessarily know where Bashir was by the sound of it. L'enfant would simply call the restaurant and speak to whomever answered. It just so happened that Bashir would often be the one answering but it also seems as though many other employees had to take these calls.

2) I get the sense that many of the phone calls were made to his restaurant. A business certainly can't be changing their number often and they must also publicize their number.

This case, unlike the Cindy James case, does not strike me as being one in which the victim is victimizing oneself because of all of the independent evidence that exists.

I would think if the FBI even briefly looked into it and the doctor thought it was real then it probably was real rather than mental illness. I agree it does seem like possible mental illness at first, but in some cases paranoia is real. I worked as a medical social worker in a couple mental heath facilities and I had a patient one time who kept saying someone was trying to kill him and after doing some researching it turned out someone really WAS trying to kill him (he had other problems too, but it always stuck with me that at least some of his paranoia was based in reality)

I think it is no doubt that L'enfant's agenda was to drive Bashire mad. There seemingly is nothing to gain for L'enfant's harassments to Bashire, or is there? :rolleyes:

The motive for all those harassments could come from who could stand to gain if Bashire really goes insane.

My take on the segment is, his wife and business partner are the most possible suspects. :eek:

The segment indicated that Bashire divorced his wife shortly after his release back to America and went on to set up a successful restaurant chain.

There was no clarification whether the divorce was a bitter or amicable one. Nothing was mentioned about their divorce settlement either. :confused:

It could be possible that his ex wife felt resentful over the divorce proceedings and got even more disgruntled to learn of Bashire new career success cum wealth and thought she deserved a fair share.

So she hired a bunch of fellas to do these harassments, and so if Bashire really goes mad, she can seize upon his assets.


The second suspect is the business partner, cos he could also stand to gain if Bashire goes crazy.

He could also have hired these bunch of people to do the harassments, and claimed he was harassed or even his son beaten, in a bid to throw the focus off himself.


I could have solved the mystery here. ;)

The L'Enfant episode featured one of the best WTF moments in UM history. The victim is in a behavioral/mental health unit somewhere attempting to maintain his sanity after the onslaught of anonymous calls from L'Enfant. He walks up to the duty nurse and asks her if he received any messages, and she responds, "L'Enfant called twice, and ..." WTF! Nurse do you mind not telling the patient that the person whose terrorized him and possibly kidnapped him and his son is still trying to contact him?!? And BTW, can we please run a trace at least once out of the 1,112 times he calls?


LOL...I just watched this for the first time, so true what you said about the nurse. I wondered about that myself. And it's totally ridiculous...."Excuse me, any calls?" "Just three. Two from your stalker and one from the doctor..." "Okay, thanks..." (Goes back to his room.)

The calls were really well done, if they sounded anything like the episode, that would have freaked the crap out of me too. I really feel for this man...I really wonder why they wouldn't leave him alone.

That nurse thing really bugs me. I just don't get it. She didn't seem upset in the episode at all, like something they all got used to. I can't imagine what it was like:

Nurse (answering phone): Hello, mental hospital, this is nurse Claire. Can I help you?

L'Enfant: Hi, we want to speak to Bashir. (laughing, gunshots)

Nurse: He's not in right now, can I take a message?

L'Enfant: Tell him we called and we'll try him again later. (more laughter)

Nurse: I will.

Gives him the message.

I would think she would tell them to hold and contact the police, or there would be a trace on the hospital phone if they called that often. I don't mean to make light of it, but that whole part seems ludicrous the way it was presented.

The L'Enfant episode featured one of the best WTF moments in UM history. The victim is in a behavioral/mental health unit somewhere attempting to maintain his sanity after the onslaught of anonymous calls from L'Enfant. He walks up to the duty nurse and asks her if he received any messages, and she responds, "L'Enfant called twice, and ..." WTF! Nurse do you mind not telling the patient that the person whose terrorized him and possibly kidnapped him and his son is still trying to contact him?!? And BTW, can we please run a trace at least once out of the 1,112 times he calls?

That thought crossed my mind too. I would assume patients would not be informed of anything that may cause them distress.
That segment still sends chills down me as it was reenacted so well.
Like others, I do believe it was some sort of gang doing it.
I would of thought that by whoever was behind it continuing to do it when Bashir was in the facility would of made law enforcement make serious efforts to track the calls.

It wouldn't surprise me if his ex Wife had something to do with it. He was afterall attacked and kidnapped when he was given a bogus address to pick up his then Wife. He said she was with shady individuals. Maybe she wanted to drive him crazy to get something from him. ($, etc.) Maybe she was jealous he was prospering after their divorce with his restraunte.

As for the supposed crazy ramblings and racist talk about Bashir on those websites I think it's just nonesense. I don't think it really has anything to do with him.

i think they had it right, the journalist at least. that one of the terrorist who kidnapped him are now in the higher ups of the government. I think it has to of been that angle because even after Bashier left to go to a psy unit they started to target the other guy who took over. They wanted that establishment to be closed.
I re-watched the epi from my downloaded collection, and it said he had been living in the psy unit for 6 years at the time. That guy seriously has to be loaded, you would think that would total over a couple million. Wish there was some update on it.

i think they had it right, the journalist at least. that one of the terrorist who kidnapped him are now in the higher ups of the government. I think it has to of been that angle because even after Bashier left to go to a psy unit they started to target the other guy who took over. They wanted that establishment to be closed.
I re-watched the epi from my downloaded collection, and it said he had been living in the psy unit for 6 years at the time. That guy seriously has to be loaded, you would think that would total over a couple million. Wish there was some update on it.

After reading the linked article a couple of years ago, IIRC, it said that he lived in the psychiatric hospital Off and On for those years. Not for the full 5,6,7 years.... whatever it was, that the UM episode claimed.

If he really was staying at the mental facility "off and on" for those years, his health insurance could have been picking up most or all of the bill for that.

It sounds like UM just got a little black kid as the voice of the person on the phone.

"Dis time you'll be kylled!!! HAHAHAHAHA".

I never saw this segment during the original run and happened to watch it on the forbidden site---late at night while I was up by myself. By the end of it, I was extremely freaked out, especially with that weird non-like UM update at the end that is suspected of being a fake and edited on to the original segment.

UM did seem to allege that maybe his ex-wife had a part in the stalking and that may be true. There are cases of people who have been stalked and harassed for years just because the person wants to break them mentally and emotionally for some reason. And since the FBI has recorded documentation of the calls, I can't doubt that this was all faked, especially since Bashir was not the only target.

I was extremely freaked out, especially with that weird non-like UM update at the end that is suspected of being a fake and edited on to the original segment.

There is absolutely no way that that update is real.

I have a few problems with this segment. The segment makes it seem like Bashir was the sole target of these threatening phone calls. But the LA Times article posted earlier makes it seem like the restaurant itself was the target, and whoever answered was the one getting harassed and threatened. Was it ever verified that Bashir was in fact abducted back in the 70's? And isn't it possible that Bashir simply concluded the bad things happening to him (car catching on fire, his coworkers son getting beat up) as the result of L'Enfant, when in fact they could all be totally unrelated incidents? I don't doubt the authenticity of the phone calls, but I do doubt some aspects of Bashir's story.

So what is the deal in the twenty plus years after the segment aired? Did this stuff just stop or has it carried on? I cannot see why kidnappers who let him go would suddenly start harassing him in another part of the world nearly a decade later?

Also why did his captors who had held him hostage & beaten him to a pulp for days take him to a hospital & thus save his life? Why not just let him bleed out & bury him somewhere? It makes no sense.

If it was a warning about those days then surely there are better ways to do it-like a single call telling him to forget about what happened if he knows what is good for him. What possible benefit would there be making calls & worrying not only hm but the employees who had nothing to do with 1974?

Best guess is this was somebody close to him he had fallen out with & knew his mental fragility. Maybe he orchestrated the whole thing himself?

Best guess is this was somebody close to him he had fallen out with & knew his mental fragility. Maybe he orchestrated the whole thing himself?

I wonder whether this whole case was a put on, dissociative episode, or some of both. The Reader's Digest published a true case of a woman who had gone missing as a teenager and was discovered alive. It turned out she had been kidnapped and raped for awhile (not released immediately), and, as with such cases as that of Elizabeth Smart, since she was already reported missing and everyone out looking for her, the details of what had happened were in the paper along with her name. Years later, when she was married and living under that identity, a man called blackmailing her threatening to expose the details of what happened when she was a teenager. She then began receiving threatening messages in the mail. It turned out the phone threat was real, the mail she wrote to herself as part of a dissociative episode. Seriously scary stuff.

Maybe he orchestrated the whole thing himself?

The only problem with this is that the FBI tapped the phone calls that he was receiving at his restaurant, and they were being made at multiple phone booths throughout the DC area. Too frequent for it to have been one person.

The only problem with this is that the FBI tapped the phone calls that he was receiving at his restaurant, and they were being made at multiple phone booths throughout the DC area. Too frequent for it to have been one person.
Yes, this is very important to remember. One "update" mentioned that Bashir had imagined the whole thing (read this somewhere online). This simply can't be true. The calls were being made too many times from too many places for him to have done this. Also, who beat up the coworker's son? That wasn't Bashir. And I highly doubt he bombed his own car. I doubt he could have orchestrated anything from the mental hospital, either, when he was still receiving calls.

It isn't my favourite theory-but if he had done it I imagine he would have paid others to make the calls. The more likely theory is somebody he had issues with in between his time in Syria in 1974 to when this kicked off about a decade later.

I think it was just a sick group of people who targeted the restaurant, not Bashir. Maybe some p.o.'ed ex-employees. And I think that when bad things started to happen to the people at the restaurant (Bashir's jeep "exploding", the manager's son getting beat up, etc.) they blamed it on "L'Enfant" and they were totally unrelated altogether.

But if it wasn't targeted at him then why did he get calls in the mental institution & how would they have known he was there? Cannot remember if he got calls on his home phone as well, or was it just the restaurant?

Also kids might do that kind of stuff for a prank-but for a decade or more? Wouldn't they do it to other businesses as well? Disgruntled former employees would be more likely to throw bricks through the window or set a fire or something-cannot see them orchestrating a campaign of terror for 10 years plus when they would likely get other jobs anyway. It all seems very specific to him.

But if it wasn't targeted at him then why did he get calls in the mental institution & how would they have known he was there? Cannot remember if he got calls on his home phone as well, or was it just the restaurant?

Also kids might do that kind of stuff for a prank-but for a decade or more? Wouldn't they do it to other businesses as well? Disgruntled former employees would be more likely to throw bricks through the window or set a fire or something-cannot see them orchestrating a campaign of terror for 10 years plus when they would likely get other jobs anyway. It all seems very specific to him.

I think some of the calls may have been made up. Bashir did claim that once he was abducted he started to hallucinate, and was clearly losing his mind if he lived off and on in a mental institution for 6 or 7 years. Even though he got calls at the institution, the restaurant was still receiving the calls as well while Bashir was away...which makes me think the restaurant was being targeted.

I don't believe that the stalking was the result of a grudge by an ex-employee, but it's a possibility that the stalker(s) had obtained information about Bashir and his manager from someone who was in-house. That would explain how they knew to call Bashir at the restaurant in Philadelphia when he traveled there and how to contact him at Sibley hospital. I don't think that either the kidnapping or later stalking were faked, although only Bashir knows if he was a victim of circumstance or not. Even the most well adjusted individual would likely have psychological fallout from being kidnapped and then being stalked years later.

The phone harassment going on was overly sophisticated and organized for a typical acquaintance stalker as well. Just speculation, but it doesn't seem that the calls were specifically being made from all of those payphones (with various l'enfants running all over Washington), as much as the stalkers had the technological skill to hack into the trunk line, connect that to a line that they were using, and then make the calls (which would then be recorded as coming from the numbers of the various payphones). That kind of hacking was possible in that era but wasn't something the average layperson would have had the ability to pull off, excepting Kevin Poulsen. Claims of gang stalking seems to usually be the result of mental illness but I think there was an organizational element involved in this case.

I don't believe that the stalking was the result of a grudge by an ex-employee, but it's a possibility that the stalker(s) had obtained information about Bashir and his manager from someone who was in-house. That would explain how they knew to call Bashir at the restaurant in Philadelphia when he traveled there and how to contact him at Sibley hospital. I don't think that either the kidnapping or later stalking were faked, although only Bashir knows if he was a victim of circumstance or not. Even the most well adjusted individual would likely have psychological fallout from being kidnapped and then being stalked years later.

The phone harassment going on was overly sophisticated and organized for a typical acquaintance stalker as well. Just speculation, but it doesn't seem that the calls were specifically being made from all of those payphones (with various l'enfants running all over Washington), as much as the stalkers had the technological skill to hack into the trunk line, connect that to a line that they were using, and then make the calls (which would then be recorded as coming from the numbers of the various payphones). That kind of hacking was possible in that era but wasn't something the average layperson would have had the ability to pull off, excepting Kevin Poulsen. Claims of gang stalking seems to usually be the result of mental illness but I think there was an organizational element involved in this case.


Jesus. Solientgreen. That's so obvious and yet none of us thought of it. Phreaking. This harassment started in the late 1970s. Not very long after the Cap'n Crunch whistle and the golden age of Don Draper. I knew kids who were phreaking at least into the early 1990s. I knew grey hat hackers into the mid 1990s. It could definitely be done and the information was out there on BBSes.

Barring the phreaking explanation… I think I have a few suspects, the babies on the TV tower in Prague:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/20/article-1229540-074BF7E8000005DC-119_634x361.jpg

I knew kids who were phreaking at least into the early 1990s. I knew grey hat hackers into the mid 1990s. It could definitely be done and the information was out there on BBSes.

It sounds like phreaking got started back in the fifties, but I'm not sure how many individuals would have possessed that kind of skillset around the time the phone harassment started (the early eighties, from what the article mentioned). Hence my feeling that there might have been a more organized element behind it than a pissed off acquaintance who wanted to scare his ex-bosses, or creepy l'enfants loitering around payphones all day.

Trying not to wander too far into tin foil hat territory, but a war started in Lebanon in 1982 (around the time that Bashir and his sister opened the restaurant in Washington and the phone calls started) with the intent of establishing an Israeli supported christian government and expelling the PLO (members of the PLO had been known to terrorize Lebanese and Syrian christians.) Back in 1974 Lebanon, being a Syrian born Armenian christian turned American citizen probably was regarded with some suspicion, possibly by people affiliated with the Rejectionist Front (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejectionist_Front) or Al-mourabitoun. UM never mentions what branch-off of the PLO allegedly kidnapped Bashir.

Barring the phreaking explanation… I think I have a few suspects, the babies on the TV tower in Prague:

I think they're secretly in league with North Korea or Putin...

Why would the PLO or whoever target a guy they seemed to have kidnapped incorrectly a decade or so earlier & let go anyway? Unless he was active in fundraising for the opposition or an agitator in some way it makes no sense, even if he was why would they care about somebody in America enough to send agents to the local area for a decade to make childish calls to his restaurant?

Googled this phreaking thing & it seems to be people trying to get calls for free or listen in, spending a decade making silly calls to one place doesn't seem very likely. Again pranksters don't tend to make calls for any length of time-certainly not a decade.

I wonder if his ex-wife was involved somehow. IIRC, UM vaguely hints at her involvement in the segment, and she would be the person who would have the biggest motive in wanting to harass Bashir.

I wonder if his ex-wife was involved somehow. IIRC, UM vaguely hints at her involvement in the segment, and she would be the person who would have the biggest motive in wanting to harass Bashir.

That would be my best bet.

I wonder if his ex-wife was involved somehow. IIRC, UM vaguely hints at her involvement in the segment, and she would be the person who would have the biggest motive in wanting to harass Bashir.

It seemed like Bashir was withholding information, whether he had suspicions about his former wife, an underlying idea of who was behind the stalking or what the motivation was for stalking him. Bashir didn't provide enough information about his ex wife to confidently assert what tie in she could have had. Kidnapping of foreigners wasn't uncommon in Lebanon in 1974 or thereafter; some were killed or disappeared, others were released.

Googled this phreaking thing & it seems to be people trying to get calls for free or listen in, spending a decade making silly calls to one place doesn't seem very likely. Again pranksters don't tend to make calls for any length of time-certainly not a decade.

Hackers out for some cheap thrills and free calls weren't the only ones who possessed the motivation and skill to hack phone lines. Elements of the PLO and other terrorist organizations have previously been known to do similar activities to what Bashir and his associates experienced (huge volumes of repetitive calls, blocking or holding phone lines open so that they couldn't be used). It's an easy method of intimidation. It was fairly common in that era in Lebanon for both pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli radicals to assume that foreign citizens were possible collaborators with Israeli, Jordanian or American intelligence, or opposing splinter groups of the P.L.O. Individuals who had been involved in P.L.O. and it's various offshoots were leaving Lebanon in the late seventies and early-mid eighties. Some sought asylum in the U.S. and western Europe, so it's not that inconceivable that someone Bashir had previously encountered in Lebanon could have turned up in the eastern U.S, or maintained ties with someone that Bashir knew.

The motivation for the stalking? The hell that I know, it could have been a former relative or associate who wanted to undermine Bashir's mental state for some yet unknown reason. If someone formerly close to Bashir was involved, they had connections to a bit more of a sophisticated network than the typical vindictive ex. I don't buy into "gang stalking" as it's typically described, it's usually something claimed by people suffering from mental illness who believe that the CIA has put a tracking device on their car and a host of other untenable claims. At least in this case it's not that far down the rabbit hole that an individual(s) previously affiliated with a terrorist/kidnapping group would continue to harass someone they suspected of involvement in intelligence (whether that perception had any basis in reality or not). Paranoid, vindictive radicals often engage in paranoid and vindictive actions.

I was watching this segment recently, and it's definitely an underrated one in my book.

I would love to know if he still receives the calls 22+ years later. Whoever was doing it sure was dedicated. It almost seemed like it was a full time job for them. If the calls have since stopped, I'd love to know when. Stack said that at the time of that episode, Bashir was receiving on average seven calls per week. It sounded like the call frequency was dwindling in late '92, early '93 when this episode was made. With technology the way it is today, I don't think it would be easy to get away with doing that like it was in the 80s and early 90s.

I would hope that after 20 plus years the calls have stopped and he's living a normal life.

I wonder if this is him?
https://www.facebook.com/like.couchakji?fref=ts

I wonder if this is him?
https://www.facebook.com/like.couchakji?fref=ts

It is.

Oh wow so he's still alive, on his facebook he seems to be very religious... posting lots about the pope and Catholicism etc... i mean its his page he can post what he likes but on the UM segment he didn't come across religious

Oh wow so he's still alive, on his facebook he seems to be very religious... posting lots about the pope and Catholicism etc... i mean its his page he can post what he likes but on the UM segment he didn't come across religious

There was a reason for that.

Wow. Bashir is pretty much the last person on Earth I'd expect would have a Facebook page.

Yeah i know, i thought so too.

Yeah what was the reason?

Yeah what was the reason?

I can't say for sure, @Judyhymesisalive.

This really was a weird case. Need to re-watch it.

This really was a weird case. Need to re-watch it.

It is weird. Watch it again and Google 'Gaby Bashir Kouchacji'. It will creep you out big time.

I've always found this to be a fascinating, creepy, and underrated mystery.

I've always found this to be a fascinating, creepy, and underrated mystery.

Absolutely.

Wow. So apparently Bashir is a misogynistic, racist, homophobic Anti-semite. What an ass. Even his family seems embarrassed of him. Suddenly, I don't have a deep desire to see this mystery solved anymore. I always thought this was one of the lesser mysteries anyways. So the guy receives annoying phone calls like everyone else on Planet Earth. Just hang up the phone and don't engage them. And somehow I doubt some little kid is going to track him down and kill him. Never did happen, btw.

Wow. So apparently Bashir is a misogynistic, racist, homophobic Anti-semite. What an ass. Even his family seems embarrassed of him. Suddenly, I don't have a deep desire to see this mystery solved anymore. I always thought this was one of the lesser mysteries anyways. So the guy receives annoying phone calls like everyone else on Planet Earth. Just hang up the phone and don't engage them. And somehow I doubt some little kid is going to track him down and kill him. Never did happen, btw.

Exactly. ;)

Why do you think this of him? Is it because of his facebook page?

Wow. So apparently Bashir is a misogynistic, racist, homophobic Anti-semite. What an ass. Even his family seems embarrassed of him. Suddenly, I don't have a deep desire to see this mystery solved anymore. I always thought this was one of the lesser mysteries anyways. So the guy receives annoying phone calls like everyone else on Planet Earth. Just hang up the phone and don't engage them. And somehow I doubt some little kid is going to track him down and kill him. Never did happen, btw.

They weren't your typical annoying phone calls. They were from someone or some organization known as L'Enfant.

I'm not defending the guy, but his being a creep doesn't lessen my desire to learn the truth behind this mystery.

They weren't your typical annoying phone calls. They were from someone or some organization known as L'Enfant.

I'm not defending the guy, but his being a creep doesn't lessen my desire to learn the truth behind this mystery.

L'enfant can easily be described as an anti-PLO organization/faction. Bashir is affiliated with the PLO.

What is PLO?

What is PLO?
Palestine Liberation Organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization)

They are basically terrorists.

They weren't your typical annoying phone calls. They were from someone or some organization known as L'Enfant.

I'm not defending the guy, but his being a creep doesn't lessen my desire to learn the truth behind this mystery.

Still, in a show that typically dealt with murderers, rapists, armed robbers and missing persons in relation to true crime, some threatening phone calls seems like small potatoes in comparison, especially since nothing ever happened with them.

Still, in a show that typically dealt with murderers, rapists, armed robbers and missing persons in relation to true crime, some threatening phone calls seems like small potatoes in comparison, especially since nothing ever happened with them.


Exactly. I would imagine the real 'mystery' was who kidnapped him in Beirut...and for what reason. Funny how the segment glazed over that incident and focused on the phone calls.

Why do you think this of him? Is it because of his facebook page?

No, I've done a lot of research on him over a long period of time.

Still, in a show that typically dealt with murderers, rapists, armed robbers and missing persons in relation to true crime, some threatening phone calls seems like small potatoes in comparison, especially since nothing ever happened with them.

I disagree. The phone calls were a form of psychological torture. A harassment campaign that goes on for years and years is noteworthy. It's quite similar to the Cindy James case where she was harassed by an unknown person (or persons) for years.

I disagree. The phone calls were a form of psychological torture. A harassment campaign that goes on for years and years is noteworthy. It's quite similar to the Cindy James case where she was harassed by an unknown person (or persons) for years.

I agree that the phone calls were a form of psychological torture, but the UM segment did not report on the 'political' activities that Bashir was involved with, which led to his abduction in Beirut and thus his harassment by 'L'enfant'. Not to say he deserved to be captured, tortured and harassed (no one deserves this treatment)...but Bashir's story is way larger than the UM segment portrayed it to be.

Wow. So apparently Bashir is misogynistic, racist, homophobic

I could have just as easily been describing Brad Paisley there.

:whip

I could have just as easily been describing Brad Paisley there.

:whip

LOL good one! :)

I re watched the segment and now i can see that you're right, there is a lot more to Bashir that meets the eye, but that doesn't explain how hie co worker started also getting calls and harassed.... is he part of the PLO too?

I re watched the segment and now i can see that you're right, there is a lot more to Bashir that meets the eye, but that doesn't explain how hie co worker started also getting calls and harassed.... is he part of the PLO too?

I don't know. What was the co-worker's name?

i cant remember but his son was richard who got beaten

i cant remember but his son was richard who got beaten

I remember that scene. It's a toss up. He could have been involved in some way, or just been tormented because of his affiliation with Bashir.

I wish Bashir's website www.doubtcome.com was still up and running. Never have I seen such anti-semitic rhetoric and obvious inside knowledge of anti Israel terrorist information. That man is a threat to society. The worst of it was the sworn testimony made by Alec Kouchacji (aka Melissa Weber, Alec Carlson, etc.) which detailed her experience working with Bashir and other PLO and anti Israel factions. Chilling, absolutely chilling. He took the site down a year ago (or more?), but here is that link again, which was on just one page. It's so creepy. I actually made contact with one of these 'ladies' but I am far too frightened to ask about the allegations mentioned on that site.

http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Women-of-the-Mossad.htm

Personally, I'm starting to doubt Bashir was ever kidnapped and tortured to begin with. It's probably something he wants us to believe.

Personally, I'm starting to doubt Bashir was ever kidnapped and tortured to begin with. It's probably something he wants us to believe.

@wiseguy182: I wouldn't put it past him - to do so to obtain 'political asylum' in the United States. I wouldn't put it past him. Wonder what year he become a 'naturalized citizen' of the USA, and if it was after his alledged kidnapping and torture in Lebanon?

Many people lie to get naturalized, under the guise of 'political refugee'. ;)

Yeah me too, was there anyone else witness to it other than Bashir?

Yeah me too, was there anyone else witness to it other than Bashir?

He didn't say in the segment. The whole kidnapping story was extremely weird, way too many inconsistencies. I don't even think he filed charges. As wiseguy182 stated, I am doubting highly that it ever even happened.

Of course he was kidnapped. It's the whole reason he was harassed by L'Enfant.

He didn't say in the segment. The whole kidnapping story was extremely weird, way too many inconsistencies. I don't even think he filed charges. As wiseguy182 stated, I am doubting highly that it ever even happened.
Yeah i have my doubts also.

Of course he was kidnapped. It's the whole reason he was harassed by L'Enfant.

What motive would a child who wasn't even alive at the time of Bashir's abduction have for harassing Bashir?

What motive would a child who wasn't even alive at the time of Bashir's abduction have for harassing Bashir?
Exactly!!!!

What motive would a child who wasn't even alive at the time of Bashir's abduction have for harassing Bashir?

Umm. You think a child was the ringleader of L'Enfant?! LOL!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's silly that you think a child would

A) have the brains to refer to him/herself as "L'Enfant"
B) track down or randomly find Bashir
C) engage in a harassment campaign that lasted for YEARS.

Children don't do that.

L'Enfant was clearly a person or organization that either used a child or someone with a childlike voice, or used computer equipment to change an adult voice to sound like a child.

I cannot believe you people think a child was acting alone to harass Bashir.

What motive would a child who wasn't even alive at the time of Bashir's abduction have for harassing Bashir?

CORRECT!!!

It's silly that you think a child would

A) have the brains to refer to him/herself as "L'Enfant"
B) track down or randomly find Bashir
C) engage in a harassment campaign that lasted for YEARS.

Children don't do that.

L'Enfant was clearly a person or organization that either used a child or someone with a childlike voice, or used computer equipment to change an adult voice to sound like a child.

I cannot believe you people think a child was acting alone to harass Bashir.

Go back a couple of pages and start reading my comments. Bashir is a hustler, liar, anti-semite with very shady background. THIS is why some of us are questioning this alleged 'kidnapping'.

Go back a couple of pages and start reading my comments. Bashir is a hustler, liar, anti-semite with very shady background. THIS is why some of us are questioning this alleged 'kidnapping'.

I know what your theory is. But the mystery is not whether he lied about being kidnapped. It's WHO was L'enfant?? And that poster I quoted seems to think some kid was the brains behind it....which is hilarious!!!

I know what your theory is. But the mystery is not whether he lied about being kidnapped. It's WHO was L'enfant?? And that poster I quoted seems to think some kid was the brains behind it....which is hilarious!!!
I think you misunderstood - wiseguy182 doesn't believe 'some kid' was behind L'Enfant. He believes L'Enfant was also a lie concocted by Bashir - as do I (let me know if I'm correct with this assumption, wiseguy182 ;) ).

Let me explain further: as per your statement which I bolded, yes, I believe (and so do others) that Bashir lied about being kidnapped in Beirut in the 1980s, to get the USA to intervene and remove him from that very dangerous country, which the USA graciously did. Beirut was a complete warzone in the 1980s when all of this went down. So, if he lied about being kidnapped, he probably lied about those phone calls from L'Enfant; or if he was getting calls from L'Enfant, perhaps it was due to some of the shady things he was doing in Beirut in the 1980s. I know a lot about Bashir, I provided some proof here. In the UM segment, why wasn't his ex wife or any family members interviewed about this supposed kidnapping in Beirut? Why won't he reveal his ex-wife's name? Why would kidnappers torture him for days, then release him to take him to the hospital for treatment....then taunt him years later? Think about it. Does any of this make sense? The only thing I can think about is that this kidnapping story and L'Enfant story were created by Bashir to gain political asylum in the USA, as he was getting divorced from his ex wife and about to be stranded in Beirut with no real job and perhaps some dangerous enemies.

That said, I know more than one person who have lied about being tortured, intimidated etc. from war torn countries in order to gain political asylum. People do do this - all the time. It's a cheap, quick way to become a citizen. Many perks come with political asylum, you can work yourself into some pretty tony political circles if you are savvy. Ask Bashir. I can go on, but at this point I'm not here to convince anyone. I just am happy to share information on this man, who is a liar, anti-semite and a fraud, involved in creepy, fringe political activities.

Originally published online by Bashir & his family's company, Mean Corporation of Washington DC: http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/Women-of-the-Mossad.htm

Article about Bashir - note how he lies about being an owner of the restaurant, and how his family has distanced themselves from him: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2002/07/11/the-reliable-source/b457913c-d84c-4b3d-8926-15fb01be78e6/

One last thing: in the above noted article (circa 2002), Bashir states that the Israeli government was responsible for 'the kidnapping'. Whereas, he originally blamed the kidnapping on the PLO. Interesting.....

It's silly that you think a child would

A) have the brains to refer to him/herself as "L'Enfant"

It is a common word in France, so assuming the child is French, one can assume they would be familiar with this word.

B) track down or randomly find Bashir

not hard to believe.

C) engage in a harassment campaign that lasted for YEARS

Children don't do that..



People on here believe children were responsible for the 10 year harassment of the Wackers. Again, not all that hard to believe.

L'Enfant was clearly a person or organization that either used a child or someone with a childlike voice, or used computer equipment to change an adult voice to sound like a child.

I cannot believe you people think a child was acting alone to harass Bashir.

The segment stated that it was impossible for one person to solely behind the calls, since the calls were coming from various places.

I never said one person was behind his harassment. I said that I believe L'Enfant is an organization. YOU are the one who believes a child acting alone was responsible!!!!

It is a common word in France, so assuming the child is French, one can assume they would be familiar with this word.



not hard to believe.





People on here believe children were responsible for the 10 year harassment of the Wackers. Again, not all that hard to believe.



The segment stated that it was impossible for one person to solely behind the calls, since the calls were coming from various places.

1) No French-speaking child is going to refer to himself or herself as L'Enfant. That would be like an American child referring to himself as "The Kid".

2) Yes it is. A child is not an adult and does not have the means of tracking down a specific person to harass.

3) The Wackers were not harassed by children.

4) I already said that I think L'Enfant was an organization. Why are refuting what I already asid I know to b true?

I'm not even sure what you're arguing anymore. The segment made it clear he was harassed by a group. Why you think a child acting alone is beyond me.

Wiseguy: I just cannot believe you think a child or group of children was responsible for the harassment of Bashir. That's insane. You must not be a parent or know any children, because that's not how they function.

As I have repeatedly stated, I believe L'Enfant is an organization that either used children or technology or adults mimicking children's voices to harass Bashir.

NYSleuth: If you think the harassment was made up (which it wasn't since, other people were also affected), then this conversation is over. I cannot engage with people who don't actually believe in the mysteries on Unsolved Mysteries.

well I certainly think we know where alistaircranium stands on this issue.

NYSleuth: If you think the harassment was made up (which it wasn't since, other people were also affected), then this conversation is over. I cannot engage with people who don't actually believe in the mysteries on Unsolved Mysteries.

To my knowledge, only his employees at Marrakesh were 'affected' by the L'Enfant calls and harassment. Employees have been known to lie for their employers before. ;)

Yes, I believe Bashir and his cohorts made up L'Enfant. Let me be clear, I do believe the calls were made, but HIS people were behind this ridiculous 'organization'. There is also a possibility that people not connected with Bashir make up L'Enfant, but those calls were not connected to that fake kidnapping.

A lot of UM segments contain false information, which skew the true 'mystery'. In any case, we can agree to disagree. ;)

well I certainly think we know where alistaircranium stands on this issue.
:lol:

I cannot engage with people who don't actually believe in the mysteries on Unsolved Mysteries.

I love UM, but c'mon...plenty of mysteries on the show were flat out hoaxes.
Does this mean you won't talk to me if I don't believe the Guardian UFO incident took place?:lol:

I love UM, but c'mon...plenty of mysteries on the show were flat out hoaxes.
Does this mean you won't talk to me if I don't believe the Guardian UFO incident took place?:lol:

:lol: Right! Or 'Rainboy'. :lol:

:lol: Right! Or 'Rainboy'. :lol:

Rainboy!

That was real. No question in my mind. Homeboy could make it rain. (The rain running down the back of the set during the on-camera interviews was just genius, if I haven't mentioned that before. In case you can't tell, that's a guilty pleasure segment for me.) I wonder where Don Decker is these days?

Back to the case at hand-- I find all these new revelations about Bashir fascinating. It certainly calls his credibility into question, at least for me...

Rainboy!

That was real. No question in my mind. Homeboy could make it rain. (The rain running down the back of the set during the on-camera interviews was just genius, if I haven't mentioned that before. In case you can't tell, that's a guilty pleasure segment for me.) I wonder where Don Decker is these days?

Back to the case at hand-- I find all these new revelations about Bashir fascinating. It certainly calls his credibility into question, at least for me...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG @LooksLikeCRicci I just laughed SO hard! As a child, watching that segment had me in stitches. Yes, the rain running in the background, dripping from the roof, too I believe - was the best part; that and the overacting by Rainboy, his angst, lol!!! Now I need to see that segment again, pronto!

But seriously, Bashir is such a fraud. I also question his sanity (not as a result of L'Enfant, lol!), because from all I know of his crazy ideologies...well, let's just say his musings are not one of a man dealing with a full deck. But I digress...

Sidebar, next time I'm in DC (I visit every so often), I'm going to have lunch at Marrakesh and make the reservation under L'Enfant, LOL. J/K. :lol:

es, the rain running in the background, dripping from the roof, too I believe - was the best part; that and the overacting by Rainboy, his angst, lol!!! Now I need to see that segment again, pronto!


"I have powers you don't!"

"I have powers you don't!"

LOL there was a lot of overacting going on there. Didn't he holler something about how he 'Just can't make it stop!'? lol I need to watch this again.