Where do you think the show could've gone had James not died?

Originally posted by Mr. Monitor
Where do you think the show could've gone had James not died?
Good Question..Probably better quality written episodes from the 4th, 5th, and 6th seasons...

Originally posted by Mr. Monitor
Where do you think the show could've gone had James not died?


It probably wouldn't have been no PENNY.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
It probably wouldn't have been no PENNY.


Of course not. If James had still been on the show, child abuse would have still been fashionable.

Originally posted by GeeBee
Of course not. If James had still been on the show, child abuse would have still been fashionable.


You keep saying child abuse but James never put his hands on any of his kids. Florida was the one who slapped Michael. So i'm afraid i don't know what you mean.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
You keep saying child abuse but James never put his hands on any of his kids. Florida was the one who slapped Michael. So i'm afraid i don't know what you mean.


I know you think that if you don't actually see it on an episode, it never happened, but there is always an "off-screen life" for the characters and it was implied several times that he beat them with a belt. He beat someone else's child with a belt on an episode and he threatened his children with the belt for the slightest disagreements. Child abuse is also not just about physical actions; many of the things James said to J.J. qualified as emotional abuse.

Originally posted by GeeBee
I know you think that if you don't actually see it on an episode, it never happened, but there is always an "off-screen life" for the characters and it was implied several times that he beat them with a belt. He beat someone else's child with a belt on an episode and he threatened his children with the belt for the slightest disagreements. Child abuse is also not just about physical actions; many of the things James said to J.J. qualified as emotional abuse.


First of all, that guy that James beat with the belt was 18 in the 7th grade-LOL He definitly wasn't the same age as Michael. And Plus he came into the Evans household and told them what he wasn;t going to do and disrepected the father so that's why he was beaten.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
First of all, that guy that James beat with the belt was 18 in the 7th grade-LOL He definitly wasn't the same age as Michael. And Plus he came into the Evans household and told them what he wasn;t going to do and disrepected the father so that's why he was beaten.


Like I said, abuse.

the show would have lasted alot longer and as ive said before for all my issues with james and his yelling i still think the show was better with john amos now as for james i think he and his family would have gotten out of the projcets sooner or later and he would have eventully swallowed his pride and let florida work at least part time

my, my, my. how little ye understand about the African-American family and the rearing of our children. we believe in belts where necessary and having a strong hand to keep children in line. abuse is a very strong word and i think, used inappropriately. that is old school parenting that you see on the show. remember that these families were trying to raise children in the ghetto, in the truest form. discipline HAD to be enforced. you are an outsider looking into and judging a culture you obviously do not understand. :rolleyes:

Now...to answer the thread. :)
I believe the show would've had to expand outside of the ghetto. James was already at the breaking point in so many episodes due to the system and the MAN keeping him down. You can't keep kicking a man that already down. Florida did get a PT job (driving a bus) and that seemed to help. And with Thelma and JJ working, things could've definitely improved. But then we wouldn't have gotten the infamous "Damn, Damn, Damn" so I'm torn. I loved James Evans and hated to see him leave the show. Woulda been interesting....

Originally posted by knl9674
my, my, my. how little ye understand about the African-American family and the rearing of our children. we believe in belts where necessary and having a strong hand to keep children in line. abuse is a very strong word and i think, used inappropriately. that is old school parenting that you see on the show. remember that these families were trying to raise children in the ghetto, in the truest form. discipline HAD to be enforced. you are an outsider looking into and judging a culture you obviously do not understand. :rolleyes:




I'm a family preservation social worker who has been working with African American families for three years, so save the lecture, pal. There is no law against spanking children (although it is highly discouraged by many professionals who work with children), but there are laws against leaving marks on children. If marks are left on a child, or if the child even tells me that he or she has marks left from a whipping, I am MANDATED by LAW to report it to child protection services and you can bet your life that I will. Then again, I would report it even if I wasn't mandated. It is considered ABUSE and I wholeheartedly agree. The type of African American family displayed on Good Times was a stereotype and it's ultimately pretty offensive to say that all fathers of a certain ethnic or socio-economic level must be screaming lunatics like James to enforce discipline. I'm not buying it, buddy.

are your panties in a bunch over a television show and a fictitious family? your supposed credentials on the topic ( a social work, no less) proves my point exactly: an outsider looking in. i have lived the experience on both sides of the coin and my experience doesn't stop at 5'oclock.

bottom line: we don't see eye to eye. i see exactly where you're coming from and understand that you are misguided. which i can respect.

if you want some knowledge outside of a textbook and 3 years of experience, start a new thread and let me teach you. i'm a tad tired of discussing the same thing. ever hear of a brick wall? or what about, beating a dead horse? kiiiinda what i'm feeling here.

this is not even a lively debate. you bring absolutely nothing to the table. no need to reply...i'm over this.

i completely respect your opinion. :rolleyes:

One thing I consider to be an interesting alternative is suppose Esther Rolle had been fired and John Amos wasn't. How would the show have been different? Supposedly she had as much trouble with the producers as John did, but suppose John was more like Ja'net du Bois and just did what he was told? Would the producers have written out Florida? And if so, how would things have turned out? Any guesses?

Ed

Originally posted by Edster2973
One thing I consider to be an interesting alternative is suppose Esther Rolle had been fired and John Amos wasn't. How would the show have been different? Supposedly she had as much trouble with the producers as John did, but suppose John was more like Ja'net du Bois and just did what he was told? Would the producers have written out Florida? And if so, how would things have turned out? Any guesses?

Ed


We got a little taste of that when Florida was absence in the episode-"THE ENLISTEMENT" I guess it ok.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
We got a little taste of that when Florida was absence in the episode-"THE ENLISTEMENT" I guess it ok.

Not really. She wasn't killed off, which is a lot different. It's like when James is suddenly away during Season 3 (even though it's established early in Season 3 that he & Florida never spent a day apart from each other, and suddenly he's away more often). His influence is still a major part of the show, whereas when he was killed off, he was mourned and then seemingly almost ignored.

I just wonder how things would have turned out if James had survived and Florida didn't. Would he have dated again? Would he have softened up a bit, a la Archie Bunker in Archie Bunker's Place when Edith died? Would he have gotten more strict? Would he and Willona eventually gotten together? That would have been the ultimate turn around. The strict father falling in love with one he always referred to as the town gossip. It's just like when Archie ended up hiring and caring for his black maid. He even defended women on women's rights towards the end.

I'm not saying I would have preferred Florida dying. Quite the opposite. I just wonder how the characters would have evolved. Truth to tell, if I had my way, John Amos would have stayed for the entirety of the series' run, along with the rest of the cast, but it didn't happen that way alas.

Anymore speculation?

Ed

Originally posted by Edster2973
Not really. She wasn't killed off, which is a lot different. It's like when James is suddenly away during Season 3 (even though it's established early in Season 3 that he & Florida never spent a day apart from each other, and suddenly he's away more often). His influence is still a major part of the show, whereas when he was killed off, he was mourned and then seemingly almost ignored.

I just wonder how things would have turned out if James had survived and Florida didn't. Would he have dated again? Would he have softened up a bit, a la Archie Bunker in Archie Bunker's Place when Edith died? Would he have gotten more strict? Would he and Willona eventually gotten together? That would have been the ultimate turn around. The strict father falling in love with one he always referred to as the town gossip. It's just like when Archie ended up hiring and caring for his black maid. He even defended women on women's rights towards the end.

I'm not saying I would have preferred Florida dying. Quite the opposite. I just wonder how the characters would have evolved. Truth to tell, if I had my way, John Amos would have stayed for the entirety of the series' run, along with the rest of the cast, but it didn't happen that way alas.

Anymore speculation?

Ed


I was just saying we got to see a episode would be like without Florida, i don;t how long it was going to last if she was killed off

you pose such an interesting possibility that i never thought of - james and wologna. they were polar opposites but they all grew up together. i'm not sure how that would've worked out. but i do agree with your premise in that maybe james would've softened up a little over time and possibly even dated a little more. the new girlfriend could've included some great storylines.

i'm still musing on james + wologna. nah...don't think it woulda worked or even been believable. definitely worth a thought though......

i'm on the fence - if you can't already tell. :D

Originally posted by knl9674
you pose such an interesting possibility that i never thought of - james and wologna. they were polar opposites but they all grew up together. i'm not sure how that would've worked out. but i do agree with your premise in that maybe james would've softened up a little over time and possibly even dated a little more. the new girlfriend could've included some great storylines.

i'm still musing on james + wologna. nah...don't think it woulda worked or even been believable. definitely worth a thought though......

i'm on the fence - if you can't already tell. :D

At first it would never have worked, but I see a scenario that plays something like this. James starts dating again after Florida's passing, and Willona has a huge problem with it (she & Florida were best friends after all). She & James have it out and during the heated arguments, both realize that their love for Florida is something that they have in common, and they end up seeing something in each other that they never saw before.

They wouldn't even have had to get as far as going on a date. Perhaps it would have been an underlying sexual tension & chemistry that we the audience knew about but that she & James never gave voice to, and maybe there'd be several instances where they'd come close. The question of 'will they or won't they' could have been enough to keep viewers guessing and tuning in.

Something like this could have projected a lot of stories for the family. Perhaps the kids, catching wind of this, would have been conflicted about the situation, some being in favor of it, and some feeling that their 'union' is a betrayal to Florida.

Again, I'm not saying that James & Willona would have ridden off into the sunset, but I think, if handled correctly and SLOWLY, this could have been a very believable pairing, even if only temporarily. Grief sometimes makes for strange bedfellows, and perhaps James & Willona would have sought consolation in each other over their pain of losing Florida.

I think it might have been interesting, and the way this sort of thing was handled on Archie Bunker's Place proves it wouldn't have had to be reduced to a soap opera. Things like this happen a lot in real life without it having to turn into Dallas or Jerry Springer.

Ed

you put that perfectly. NOW it's believable to me. an underlying sexual tension that boils over in some heated "ying yang" about her always barging in their house with the latest gossip. she fixes her fedora, takes off her gloves and tells him she was just trying to lighten things up since everyone has been so down in the dumps.

James: (enraged) How do you expect me to feel? I lost the one woman that was my life.
-sits on the couch and buries his head in his hands and weeps softly. wologna runs over to console him by patting his back.

Wologna: And you think I don't miss her? She was my best friend. But you have to be strong and think of those kids. They need you right now, More then EVA, and she's in a better place. Now, I'm right across the hall if you need to talk, James. But you've got to start pulling yourself together.
-James looks up at her all weepy and she hugs him a deep embrace. She pulls back and he moves to kiss her and they end up kissing just as Michael walks in and sees them.

Michael: Hey, everybo...........
-stands with his mouth open.

somebody pick it up from here..............

Originally posted by knl9674
you put that perfectly. NOW it's believable to me. an underlying sexual tension that boils over in some heated "ying yang" about her always barging in their house with the latest gossip. she fixes her fedora, takes off her gloves and tells him she was just trying to lighten things up since everyone has been so down in the dumps.

James: (enraged) How do you expect me to feel? I lost the one woman that was my life.
-sits on the couch and buries his head in his hands and weeps softly. wologna runs over to console him by patting his back.

Wologna: And you think I don't miss her? She was my best friend. But you have to be strong and think of those kids. They need you right now, More then EVA, and she's in a better place. Now, I'm right across the hall if you need to talk, James. But you've got to start pulling yourself together.
-James looks up at her all weepy and she hugs him a deep embrace. She pulls back and he moves to kiss her and they end up kissing just as Michael walks in and sees them.

Michael: Hey, everybo...........
-stands with his mouth open.

somebody pick it up from here..............

Sure thing...


the screen goes black and the words

TO BE CONTINUED...

show up...



;)


Ed

Originally posted by knl9674
are your panties in a bunch over a television show and a fictitious family?

Your fantasies about panties are hardly appropriate here, my friend. Originally posted by knl9674

your supposed credentials on the topic ( a social work, no less) proves my point exactly: an outsider looking in. i have lived the experience on both sides of the coin and my experience doesn't stop at 5'oclock.


My experience doesn't stop at 5:00 either. I work after hours if needed.

Originally posted by knl9674
bottom line: we don't see eye to eye. i see exactly where you're coming from and understand that you are misguided. which i can respect.

if you want some knowledge outside of a textbook and 3 years of experience, start a new thread and let me teach you. i'm a tad tired of discussing the same thing. ever hear of a brick wall? or what about, beating a dead horse? kiiiinda what i'm feeling here.

this is not even a lively debate. you bring absolutely nothing to the table. no need to reply...i'm over this.

i completely respect your opinion. :rolleyes:

Well, you believe in beating live children, why not dead horses? Basically, this is a legitimate discussion about an aspect of a fictitious show that was meant to represent real life (or at least the perception of it). If you can't deal with this thread, no one is forcing you to read it.

Originally posted by knl9674
this is not even a lively debate. you bring absolutely nothing to the table. no need to reply...i'm over this.

i completely respect your opinion. :rolleyes:


And yet, you've said nothing to directly address the issues that I've raised. Do you believe that there should be mandatory reporting laws when marks are left on a child from a whipping or do you think that any beating, no matter how bad, should stay in the family? Do you have any thoughts at all outside of your own limited life experience?

Originally posted by GeeBee
And yet, you've said nothing to directly address the issues that I've raised. Do you believe that there should be mandatory reporting laws when marks are left on a child from a whipping or do you think that any beating, no matter how bad, should stay in the family? Do you have any thoughts at all outside of your own limited life experience?

No Fighting Please!!! Or I will have this thread Locked...Thanks:)

My goodness. Have y'all ever written before?:D Just reading those dialogs makes it believable.

How did you put it? "She was my best friend? You think I don't miss her". I can imagine Willona saying that. One question though. How will the kids feel about that?

Give us more dialog, LOL. What will the kids say?

(peeks from behind a curtain)
i do believe someone is stalking me.

since you continue to follow me, begging for attention, i will respond and put an end to this. you have turned a discussion about James' way of discipline into the overall state of the world and abuse. i never said that i believed in abuse. spanking a child, in my opinion, is not considered abuse. and that was why i originally spoke up when i read your post (and other people, may i add did the same) regarding your opinion that James was abusive.

without getting too personal, were you abused as a child? you take this highly personal.

who said anything about leaving marks on children? or beating anyone? do you even READ these posts or just jump to reply when a thought meanders in there? it is impossible to have a dialogue with you if you are going to twist the original discussion into your overall crusade for Children's Rights. that's not even what we started talking about!?!? do you not get that?

so let's just leave it at that. you have your opinion, i have my opinion. i no longer find you or your posts amusing on the topic. plus, i'm neglecting so many other posters with topics i'd rather reply to and read.

(peeks outside and looks from right to left)
i think it's okay to leave now.

Annoucer: And now, the conclusion of Part 1 - The Kiss

Michael: Hey everyb.... (stands with mouth open)
-James and Wologna pull back startled. James bolts up, runs in the backroom and slams the door. Wologna rubs the back of her neck real slow and gives Michael a half smile. Starts walking over to him behind the couch.

Wologna: Graaaamps, it's not what you think. Your, your father is having a tough time dealing with everything. He's..

Michael: Didn't look like that to me! (crosses arms and turns his back to her)

Wologna: Yes well, I suppose it didn't. I don't know what's going through his mind right now but....

Michael: And what was going through yours, Wologna? Were you thinking about Mama?

Wologna: Now you know I love yo Mama and I would NEVA...

(hear bickering outside and JJ and Thelma walk in)

JJ: You ole melon head, I don't want to hear it!

Thelma: Well, you're gonna hear it. How you gon make me carry all the bags upstairs!

JJ: This body is made for Lovin, not workin.

Thelma: Whateva! (pushes him in his chest out of the way)
-crosses to put the bags in the kitchen. JJ removes his coat and goes over to his easle.

Thelma: Where's daddy?
-at that, Michael sternly goes and sits at the desk and opens a magazine with his lips poked out eyeing Wologna.

Wologna: (starts to gather her things) He, uh, he went to go and lay down to get some rest.
-Michael huffs loudly in the background.

Thelma: Oh ok. I won't wake him until I finish dinner.

Wologna: Yea, that's probably a good idea. Let him know, rest up.

JJ: You awful quiet over there, Michael. Everything alright.

Michael: Umm, hmm.

JJ: Well, you can watch me immortalize this foxy chick on canvas.

Michael: What chick?

JJ: This f-i-i-n-e body of loviness that caught my eye on the bus. She looked at me, I looked at her and we knew it was L-O-V-E, LOVE! She's coming over here tonight.

Michael: You got a girl to go on a date with you just by looking at her?

JJ: Uh, naw. I owe her 50 cents for my busfare. But she wants me, it was all in her eyes!

Michael: Aw JJ! We got more important things to worry about.
-cuts his eyes at Wologna

Thelma: Like what?

Wologna: WEEELLLLL, I'm going to get on back to my apartment. Got to do some cooking of my own, you know how it is...so uh
-starts gathering her things

Thelma: Wologna, you're not staying? I've made more than enough for all of us.

JJ: Save yourself. Run while you can.

Wologna: Naw..I really need to get going...

Thelma: Everything is almost done, it's no prob....

Micheal: Didn't you hear what she said? She's got to go. Bye, Wologna.
-crosses and opens the door and holds it open for her

Wologna: Yes, you are absolutely right.
-backs out the door slowly. touches Michael's shoulder on the way out. softly says, "Graamps". Michael brushes her hand away and pushes her out the door.

Michael: My name is Michael.
-SLAMS THE DOOR and turns around on it.

Thelma & JJ: MICHAEL?!

Crowd oohs, ahhs, laughs...fades to commercial.

Someone pick it up from here..........

LOL LOL. He runs to the backroom and slams the door. I guess he was embarrassed,:p

I'll try a little

Thelma- Michael, are you crazy?
Michael- NO. I'm not crazy. I just saw something, that's all.
JJ- What did you see?
Michael- Daddy and Willona kissing
Thelma/JJ- WHAT
JJ- Ahh, Michael, what's wrong with that. Willona probably kissed him to cheer him up. Much like I kiss the ladies to cheer them up!!!
Michael- no JJ, they were cheering each other up. They were smooching and everything.
Thelma- you know, Willona did leave out in such a hurry.
Michael- she left cause I caught them. She can't find a man, so she's trying court our father
James- I thought I heard noise
Michael, JJ, and Thelma looks at him.

...that's it for me. It's almost lunch time.

ohhhhhhh....getting good. i'll add a little more:

James: Oh, i thought i heard something.
JJ: Yea, Michael slamming the door in Wologna's face.
crowd laughs

Thelma: (crosses to James) Daddy, Michael just told us something and we need to ask you if it's true. Now, we know you've been really down since Mama passed. I mean, we all have. But...

JJ: Was you and Wologna kissing?

Thelma: JJ! (hits him) Weeeel, were you?

Michael: He SURE WAS!

Thelma: Michael!! Daddy?

Somebody pick it up....

Originally posted by knl9674
(peeks from behind a curtain)
i do believe someone is stalking me.

since you continue to follow me, begging for attention, i will respond and put an end to this. you have turned a discussion about James' way of discipline into the overall state of the world and abuse. i never said that i believed in abuse. spanking a child, in my opinion, is not considered abuse. and that was why i originally spoke up when i read your post (and other people, may i add did the same) regarding your opinion that James was abusive.

without getting too personal, were you abused as a child? you take this highly personal.

who said anything about leaving marks on children? or beating anyone? do you even READ these posts or just jump to reply when a thought meanders in there? it is impossible to have a dialogue with you if you are going to twist the original discussion into your overall crusade for Children's Rights. that's not even what we started talking about!?!? do you not get that?

so let's just leave it at that. you have your opinion, i have my opinion. i no longer find you or your posts amusing on the topic. plus, i'm neglecting so many other posters with topics i'd rather reply to and read.

(peeks outside and looks from right to left)
i think it's okay to leave now.

No one's stalking you, pal. You come on this board and read my posts by your own choice. Then again, if you have overwhelming feelings of persecution and paranoia, help is available.

It is highly debatable whether or not "spanking" (which can mean anything from one swat on the butt to several lashes with an object) is abuse, but I do believe that the way James did it was abusive. There is no reason to use a belt unless you really want to hurt a child. I also find it very hard to believe that the "Big Mac" would not leave marks.

I find it funny that you say that you don't want to discuss this matter any further, but yet you asked me a direct question about whether or not I was abused. Do you want to keep this discussion going or not? Make up your mind.

You don't have to respond to this post (or even read it) if you don't want to. So, take a deep breath and go on with your life.

Originally posted by GeeBee
No one's stalking you, pal. You come on this board and read my posts by your own choice. Then again, if you have overwhelming feelings of persecution and paranoia, help is available.

It is highly debatable whether or not "spanking" (which can mean anything from one swat on the butt to several lashes with an object) is abuse, but I do believe that the way James did it was abusive. There is no reason to use a belt unless you really want to hurt a child. I also find it very hard to believe that the "Big Mac" would not leave marks.

I find it funny that you say that you don't want to discuss this matter any further, but yet you asked me a direct question about whether or not I was abused. Do you want to keep this discussion going or not? Make up your mind.

You don't have to respond to this post (or even read it) if you don't want to. So, take a deep breath and go on with your life.

Hello, if this is not Good Times related...Please take it through Private Messaging...Thanks

(walks into the police station)
yes, i'd like to file a complaint........

have you not seen i've moved on from this? i've resorted to taunting and teasing you and you're still shaking your fists talking about the same (to quote your fav person) YING YANG.

i read your point.
you read mine.

i already told you why a logical debate and/or dialogue on this issue was not possible. so let's drop it.

i do have to thank you for the comic relief during my workday and you did bring up some fine points, twisted, but fine points nonetheless. you should be so proud.

so let's agree to disagree, shall we?

now c'mon, give big mama a hug....

Originally posted by knl9674
(walks into the police station)
yes, i'd like to file a complaint........

have you not seen i've moved on from this? i've resorted to taunting and teasing you and you're still shaking your fists talking about the same (to quote your fav person) YING YANG.

i read your point.
you read mine.

i already told you why a logical debate and/or dialogue on this issue was not possible. so let's drop it.

i do have to thank you for the comic relief during my workday and you did bring up some fine points, twisted, but fine points nonetheless. you should be so proud.

so let's agree to disagree, shall we?

now c'mon, give big mama a hug....

From the moderator:

"Hello, if this is not Good Times related...Please take it through Private Messaging...Thanks"

Originally posted by GeeBee
I'm a family preservation social worker who has been working with African American families for three years, so save the lecture, pal. There is no law against spanking children (although it is highly discouraged by many professionals who work with children), but there are laws against leaving marks on children. If marks are left on a child, or if the child even tells me that he or she has marks left from a whipping, I am MANDATED by LAW to report it to child protection services and you can bet your life that I will. Then again, I would report it even if I wasn't mandated. It is considered ABUSE and I wholeheartedly agree. The type of African American family displayed on Good Times was a stereotype and it's ultimately pretty offensive to say that all fathers of a certain ethnic or socio-economic level must be screaming lunatics like James to enforce discipline. I'm not buying it, buddy.


Then my father should have been locked up years ago.:lol:

Originally posted by knl9674
ohhhhhhh....getting good. i'll add a little more:

James: Oh, i thought i heard something.
JJ: Yea, Michael slamming the door in Wologna's face.
crowd laughs

Thelma: (crosses to James) Daddy, Michael just told us something and we need to ask you if it's true. Now, we know you've been really down since Mama passed. I mean, we all have. But...

JJ: Was you and Wologna kissing?

Thelma: JJ! (hits him) Weeeel, were you?

Michael: He SURE WAS!

Thelma: Michael!! Daddy?

Somebody pick it up....


JAMES: Uh, yeah baby girl.
THELMA: Daddy....

(James looks at his kids with guilt ridden eyes)

JAMES: I don't know what happened. Wilona was just giving me support and the next thing I know....we was...you know...

MICHAEL:......KISSING! Daddy how could you do that to Mama. I thought you loved her. And if she were here right now I'll bet she wouldn't want anything to do with you or Wilona!

(Michael spins around, grabs his jacket and basketball and leaves the apartment slamming the door)

Originally posted by laneyday
Then my father should have been locked up years ago.:lol:


You said it; I didn't.

But, it's rarely about "locking up" parents.

BTW, I think the moderator wants us to stay on topic now.

you are offtopic:

Originally posted by laneyday
you are offtopic:

So are you. Let's get back on topic. As you can see, this moderator plays no favorites and corrects everyone equally.

So, say something about Good Times. What was your favorite episode?

Originally posted by GeeBee
So are you. Let's get back on topic. As you can see, this moderator plays no favorites and corrects everyone equally.

So, say something about Good Times. What was your favorite episode? That is correct...Please no fighting..Take it to the PMs...Thanks:wave:

Originally posted by laneyday
JAMES: Uh, yeah baby girl.
THELMA: Daddy....

(James looks at his kids with guilt ridden eyes)

JAMES: I don't know what happened. Wilona was just giving me support and the next thing I know....we was...you know...

MICHAEL:......KISSING! Daddy how could you do that to Mama. I thought you loved her. And if she were here right now I'll bet she wouldn't want anything to do with you or Wilona!

(Michael spins around, grabs his jacket and basketball and leaves the apartment slamming the door) :crazy:

Originally posted by Undercover Angel
Hello, if this is not Good Times related...Please take it through Private Messaging...Thanks

aw c'mon. I am enjoying this civil debate. No one is using foul language and it is sort of surrounding James' parenting abilities.

That's right. It's all in good spirit.:cool:

True. There is a fine line between monitoring discussions and censoring them.