I know we all love ML scenes with David and/or Maddie but sometimes there are little scenes between other cast members (co-stars or guest stars) that actual teaches us something about D&M or that relates to D&M that enhances the episode by the scene being included. This topic is to talk about some of them. I am gonna go first.

I really love the card game of "Go Fish" played at the Blue Moon reception desk between Agnes Dipesto & Bert Viola in the episode I am Curious Maddie...as they have a conversation about office romances....clearly what they are saying directly relates to their bosses...and the scene really puts us in the right state of mind for the rest of the episode.... not only that the scene is rather provocative and sexy in its own sorta way...as they each crawl across the top of the desk toward each other.


"Yeah, lots of conflicting emotions. Will you miss the sexual tension...the day in, day out rush of adrenalin you get from being near a person you're wildly excited about, yet not sure you should have...?"

"Or will it be wonderful getting to know that person in a whole new way..?"

"Is what's happening, hypothetically speaking, just a natural hormonal reaction to somebody you spend a lot of time with?"

"Or is it the real McCoy?"

.........................

"....Or do you keep your feelings to yourself, and just let that person find another person to love?"

"...When the person each of you really wants is right under your noses..."

"...When the person each of you really wants is right under your noses..."

I like the scene with Agnes and McGillicuddy where they both are in a romantic mood to set up the scene in the elevator to bring them back together again.

Originally posted by CindyK
I know we all love ML scenes with David and/or Maddie but sometimes there are little scenes between other cast members (co-stars or guest stars) that actual teaches us something about D&M or that relates to D&M that enhances the episode by the scene being included. This topic is to talk about some of them. I am gonna go first.

I really love the card game of "Go Fish" played at the Blue Moon reception desk between Agnes Dipesto & Bert Viola in the episode I am Curious Maddie...as they have a conversation about office romances....clearly what they are saying directly relates to their bosses...and the scene really puts us in the right state of mind for the rest of the episode.... not only that the scene is rather provocative and sexy in its own sorta way...as they each crawl across the top of the desk toward each other.


"Yeah, lots of conflicting emotions. Will you miss the sexual tension...the day in, day out rush of adrenalin you get from being near a person you're wildly excited about, yet not sure you should have...?"

"Or will it be wonderful getting to know that person in a whole new way..?"

"Is what's happening, hypothetically speaking, just a natural hormonal reaction to somebody you spend a lot of time with?"

"Or is it the real McCoy?"

.........................

"....Or do you keep your feelings to yourself, and just let that person find another person to love?"

"...When the person each of you really wants is right under your noses..."

"...When the person each of you really wants is right under your noses..."


I love that scene because it really was about David and Maddie. Plus, it was done really well by Curtis and Allyce.

Cindy -- do you know how hard it is to come up with (m)any scenes that don't have either David or Maddie in them? I'm sitting here trying to rack my brain to come up with any (at least any that are memorable). THIS IS HARD.

This is really difficult for me. Every scene I think of has either David or Maddie in it. HELP!:wave:

this is hard. the scene that stands out for me is the one where a woman is talking to a priest. i don't remember what episode it's in and i don't think that it had anything to do with david or maddie.

Sorry...this is hard for me, too. :lol: Partially because I don't remember all of the episodes well enough, and partially because there really aren't many scenes that don't include Maddie and Dave that I like.

I don't know if this counts, but in an episode I can't recall, there was a prologue with a man in a hospital bed recounting the recent happenings at Blue Moon. Not sure if it was about Maddie and Dave, but I loved it nonetheless. :D

Lauren

That scene with the man recovering from the coma and the nurse filling him in on what had happened on Moonlighting while he has been unconscious occurs in Fetal Attraction. It is pretty funny...cause as soon as he hears that D&M still aren't back together, he has cardiac arrest.

Another funny funny scene from season 4 that has no D&M is the opening of Cool Hand Dave II where the network is auditioning actors to take the missing David Addison's place.

Interesting! Never saw that before.

Really Tas??? Do they not show that intro for the fourth season episodes?

Ok I know another pretty funny scene from ML that doesn't have either David or Maddie in it.... it is the early scene in Brother Can you Spare a Blonde where Richie Addison is hawking that Rich and Thin stuff. He is pretty darn funny there.

When I saw the topic, the first scene I tought of was the one you said, Cindy, with Bert and Agnes. I laughed sooo much with it, and when he's trying to reach her to give her a kiss...:lol: :lol: :lol:

Richie Addison scenes are very funny, too. And I also liked (talking about hospitals) the one where a man was being atacked and he starts running with all the medical stuff on, with the drip (is it called that way? :rolleyes: ) and all that, chasing the man that was trying to kill him... I remember that was funny.

Maybe the time when Mcgilicuddy and Bert are having this "water bet", do you remember? That was funny, too. :D

That scene in the hospital that you refer to is in the first season episode "Gunfight at the So-So Corral" Tim Robbins in a very early role for him is playing the young man chasing the elderly man in that scene.

The water cooler roulette scene between Bert and McGillicuddy takes place in Womb with a View and it is made even more amusing due to the fact what the theme from the western The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is the background music....

I also always laugh anytime we see the office staff eavesdropping on their bosses....especially when something very personal is going on in the office. They are funny with their ears pressed up against doors and when they all have to go scrambling when one of the office doors flies open.

Originally posted by CindyK
Another funny funny scene from season 4 that has no D&M is the opening of Cool Hand Dave II where the network is auditioning actors to take the missing David Addison's place.

How could I forget that one? That was so creative.

Originally posted by CindyK
Really Tas??? Do they not show that intro for the fourth season episodes?

Ok I know another pretty funny scene from ML that doesn't have either David or Maddie in it.... it is the early scene in Brother Can you Spare a Blonde where Richie Addison is hawking that Rich and Thin stuff. He is pretty darn funny there.

No I'm finding out that I have missed a lot of intro's!
I finally have the intro on Every daughter's father...
I love that one!
But ofcourse it's Maddie and Dave

I like the intro from A Womb ...., but it has D and M in it.... so I guess that one doesn't count:p

WoW!! I just saw The straight Poop Bloopers for the second time in my life!
I got it on the Internet, I didn't have the bloopers on tape.
So this is sooooo coool:cool:

I LMAO!!! poor guy saying the lines from the man with the mole on his nose!

What episode is the scene from where they wake up on a couch and pick up the phone?? (golden globe)
Never saw that, could be from an epi I don't have on tape.

Cyb stayed sooooo serious when B couldn't get it right on the scene from Atlas Belched. Pro!!

Greeeeeeaaaat Bloopers!!

Me too, Taz!!!! I saw it yesterday!! It's a great episode. The one with the telephone I think it's called "The man who cried a wife", but I'm not sure. It's the one where the guy thinks he killed her wife (he buries her body) but then she keeps calling him... you remember?

The bloopers are great, very funny!! And I think they made a good summary of all the good scenes. And the kiss... wooowww :D hehehe

The blooper where Maddie grabs the Emmy award and tries to answer it like the phone and they decide the award must be Glenn's....

This really is an outtake of a scene from The Man Who Cried Wife --when M&D were waiting over a the Bower house for the phone call to come in from the dead wife so they could trace it.

I like the one where Bruce has to start talking and then Cybill turns around to say her lines. It goes all wrong and the part where Cybill turns around and walkes away laughing(the whole crew laughing as well) gives me tears in my eyes from laughing everytime I see it.

ok, I'm babling again

see ya

greets Steph

I wish I had some bloopers on tape. I remember laughing like crazy over the ones from "The Straight Poop," but I hardly remember specifics.

That explains it C. I don't have The man who cried wife yet.

Yeah Steph I like that one too!

I just didn't like it when Bruce said "Yo knucklehead turn around!"
that didn't sound very nice.
Almost as if he meant it.
It could be my imagination and maybe Cindy can tell something about that, but when you see them working together in the bloopers, it's almost as if everybody is only paying attention to Bruce.
As if he is the most important one of the two of them.

Look how Cyb acts when they are in the clothing shop and Bruce says "Do you have the Miami Vice look?".
Like she is a little unsure what to do at that moment when he gets all the attention again.
Just watch it and you'll see what I mean.

(and you know what, when you read Cyb's book, I think she felt the same, it was a man's world)

Yeah I know what you mean, I've noticed that too. I noticed it already when I watched it for the first time...

I didn't like the comment of Bruce either. It was mean and immature.

And this is one of the things that make me think the pregnancy of Cybill doesn't have a lot to do with the ending of the show. It was the way they worked together.

I translated an article from Veronica magazine where I read that Cybill stood for the choice to take an abortion or to work with a lot of people who wouldn't like to work with her anymore. It was a men's world. I believe Cybill when she says that, I really do!

I think it's wrong what Glenn and Bruce did with the Pilot episode on DVD. They did the talking without Cybill, they left her out. If something like that would happen to me (and something like that DID happen to me) I would feel awfull. One of them (Glenn or Bruce) should have thought about what they did, but they didn't. Okay, okay, Bruce is a big star, but he wasn't the ONLYONE who kept the show running. It needed both of them and I find it really sad that they let a friend like Cybill, the way we like to say in Dutch, fall like a brick.

pfew, I feel much better now...

greets Steph

I'd like to add that Bruce has become a star thanx to Cybill.
She convinced Glenn that Bruce was THE MAN for the job.
And she was righter than right.
I know that both of them had to cope with a lot of pressure and very long days, but I also believe Cyb when she says that Bruce and Glenn were the best of mates and shut her out.
Maybe Glenn also forgot that when he wrote the Maddie Hayes part that he was writing it for Cybill!
Then why the heck shut her out like that??
I don't know, we never heard B's side of the story, but maybe he doesn't talk about it because he knows it's true.

Anyway I think Cyb acted like a pro in all the bloopers Bruce made, but vice versa he wasn't being fair in some of the scenes.
But know I'm talking with my head only, I mean I do love that guy!

The only thing is that I don't think Cybill talked Glenn into casting Bruce. I'm sure she had casting approval but Glenn tells the story quite a bit differently in interviews he's done. Sounds like he really went to bat for Bruce with the network.

He did! But I believe that was after Cyb said that she was convinced that Bruce was the one!

I'm not sure about that. Glenn has said that 3000 actors auditioned for David and he personally saw 300. Cybill has said she read with a handful of finalists. She tells the story in her book of when she met Bruce but it seems strange that he would meet her at his first audition, so it makes me wonder if that might have been later. I'm sure both Glenn and Cybill played a role in the process and both might embellish the story a little now since Bruce became a star.

I personally do not see any favoritism or bad behavior by either in the outtakes....and I have watched them a kagillion times.

I think you have to realize that these are outtakes...they are snippets of funny takes...some of them clearly not intended to air and others just a flubbed line reading. What you see is a funny moment and I see both stars laughing and enjoying the moment....Cyb laughs at Bruce's flubs and smacks playfully at him and he teases her when she blows a line.... We see both of them making errors and laughing....and we see them teasing and kidding around with each other.

It seems to me like people sometimes go looking for conflict between them that isn't necessarily there. I think when working, they were both very professional and actually worked very very well together.

I also believe that as time has passed, individuals put their own personal spin on incidences and situations and sometimes their recollections are not as accurate as one might think.... for instance, I have read at least three different versions of specific events....depending on who is telling the story. When Cybill wrote her book, over 10 years and then some had passed between Moonlighting, and I can point out several precise factual errors in what she writes concerning the show.

Enjoy her book, and appreciate the effort....but don't treat it as the gospel concerning all things Moonlighting.

after i had discovered moonlighting i told everybody i knew about it. that's when i found out everybody i knew not only had seen and loved moonlighting- but they could tell me blow by blow about arguements they had read about the time the show was originally on the air. arguements between the actors and creator of the show. they had read about these arguements in reputable and not reputable periodicles.
so something was upsetting people. who knows what. i decided to keep to the romantic comedy of 'david and maddie'. because everybody told me that after they knew about the arguements it distracted from the fantasy of moonlighting. i do know that actors are never, but never like the characters they play.

Originally posted by CindyK
I personally do not see any favoritism or bad behavior by either in the outtakes....and I have watched them a kagillion times.

I think you have to realize that these are outtakes...they are snippets of funny takes...some of them clearly not intended to air and others just a flubbed line reading. What you see is a funny moment and I see both stars laughing and enjoying the moment....Cyb laughs at Bruce's flubs and smacks playfully at him and he teases her when she blows a line.... We see both of them making errors and laughing....and we see them teasing and kidding around with each other.

It seems to me like people sometimes go looking for conflict between them that isn't necessarily there. I think when working, they were both very professional and actually worked very very well together.

I also believe that as time has passed, individuals put their own personal spin on incidences and situations and sometimes their recollections are not as accurate as one might think.... for instance, I have read at least three different versions of specific events....depending on who is telling the story. When Cybill wrote her book, over 10 years and then some had passed between Moonlighting, and I can point out several precise factual errors in what she writes concerning the show.

Enjoy her book, and appreciate the effort....but don't treat it as the gospel concerning all things Moonlighting.

I don't really remember most of these incidents that are being referred to, but what you said sounds pretty good, Cindy. :p

I enjoyed Cybill's book but it is only one person's perception of events. That's not to say it was intentionally inaccurate, but everyone has their own point of view of situations which doesn't necessarily jive with someone else's. I did notice the sequence of events sometimes seemed a little off in the book.

As for the outtakes, I don't think they favored Bruce at all. I kind of liked the "knucklehead" remark. But I do think the outtakes (particularly after "Shirts and Skins" in the 5th season) were probably carefully selected, if you know what I mean. ;)

I'm glad everybody has their own opinion.

And I'm not taking anybody's side or rerunning what I read in the book.
It's what I noticed in the outtakes.
I know they both had fun as wel as struggle.

But in the knucklehead scene I see something that I don't like and that's my opinion.
That's all.

Hope I'm not offending anybody here.

Originally posted by Tazmania
I'm glad everybody has their own opinion.

And I'm not taking anybody's side or rerunning what I read in the book.
It's what I noticed in the outtakes.
I know they both had fun as wel as struggle.

But in the knucklehead scene I see something that I don't like and that's my opinion.
That's all.

Hope I'm not offending anybody here.

Nah, of course you're not! :D I simply tend to see things in a different light with Cyb and Bruce...I just really want them to get along! :p

Thanx, but I never said that they didn't get along, I just noticed that it seemed that Bruce was a little more important in these outtakes and that it seem to make Cyb a little unsecure.
But I always believed that they are two very professional actors who did a great job on that show together.

Gosh! I always wished with my whole my heart that they had married eachother, I'm a BIG FAN here, and ofcoourse I could be wrong!!

I'm with you there, Taz! I think that's the ending the Moonlighting fans really wanted to see. I thought the ending with them trying to get married was such a bad tease. :(

Yeah it felt like a bad joke!

The ending could have been so much better!

Yeah, I never meant to be mean or anything (I think I wasn't being mean btw) I just have a very strong way of "talking" when I give my opinion about something. So, I'm also sorry if I offended someone. I didn't mean for that to happen.

I know that Bruce and Cybill can get along great in some ways, but I also know there was something going on that wasn't very great.

I hope they will ever talk to eachother again...

I don't think anyone was offended. I sure wasn't! I think this is a great conversation and a fun board. :talk:

Cool! So do I and I wanna keep it that way.
Like I said everybody is entitled to an opinion.
And to quote Maddie: " Isn't that what our forfathers founded this country for?"

LOL :lol:

ahhhhh. I get it now Taz. You are upset by the knucklehead comment. Well, knowing that Mr. Willis is a big big Three Stooges fan, you have to understand that knucklehead is not a negative term when he uses it.... it is sorta a teasing term of endearment right out of the Three Stooges. You probably being from Europe are not as familiar with the Three Stooges as many of us who grew up in the States and watched them everyday on our TV's.

So I laugh and giggle at his comment...and Cybill laughed too.

Originally posted by Tazmania
Thanx, but I never said that they didn't get along, I just noticed that it seemed that Bruce was a little more important in these outtakes and that it seem to make Cyb a little unsecure.

Oooooh, I get it now. :idea:

For me, I always try to think that everything was fine on the set. I hate the rumors that went around about the two of them, so I love to see them joking with each other. Whenever I hear about one being mean to the other, I can't help but try to defend them. I flip out! :crazy:

Taz, don't be too upset with the knucklehead comment. I think he meant it as a term of endearment, actually. Bruce is a 3 Stooges fan and they used the term "knucklehead" all the time.

Plus, as Cybill has said many times, Bruce is a really funny guy, and I think he probably made the crew laugh all the time. Cybill made that same comment many years ago on David Letterman. He showed a pic of Bruce (and a couple of other men also) and she said that Bruce was really funny. She had extremely negative comments about Mickey Rourke and Ted Kennedy in the same interview, as I recall.

Ok maybe knucklehead isn't such a bad word, I just think I saw a little irritation in Bruce's eyes when she turned around and wasn't suppose to.
Then he calls her knucklehead and I don't see Cyb laughing, in fact I don't see her react at all.
She was already laughing because of her own mistake.
(that was very funny btw)
Don't get me wrong I like this outtake a lot, great to see them work together.
And I must add that Bruce also stayed serious when she said her lines totally wrong.
(can somebody write down the whole thing she said?? I didn't get it all)

Thanx for the explanations girls.

Gr Taz

Originally posted by Tazmania
Ok maybe knucklehead isn't such a bad word, I just think I saw a little irritation in Bruce's eyes when she turned around and wasn't suppose to.
Then he calls her knucklehead and I don't see Cyb laughing, in fact I don't see her react at all.
She was already laughing because of her own mistake.
(that was very funny btw)
Don't get me wrong I like this outtake a lot, great to see them work together.
And I must add that Bruce also stayed serious when she said her lines totally wrong.
(can somebody write down the whole thing she said?? I didn't get it all)

Thanx for the explanations girls.

Gr Taz

Taz, we think alike.

And yeah, could someone please write down what she said? I didn't even get the subtitles:confused:

You're more lucky than I am, I don't have it with subs, allthough I hardly need them, now it would have been convenient.
:rolleyes:


gr
Taz:wave:

I don't need those things either, but I needed them when I watched that blooper. Even then I didn't get what she said lolol:D

Something like: Yeah well next time I have a somebody I use to sleep with then I'm gonna tell 'm to give you the once over by the girl and the old lady too??????????? HUH???

<--- Confuzzled :confused:

David: Hey, I owe you.

Maddie: Yeah, well, the next time someone I used to sleep with wants to leave his wife, I'll be sure to ask you to give the little lady the once over.

I love this scene from Knowing Her. David is asking Maddie to go see Gillian's husband and feel him out. He feels he can't do it since he (David) doesn't know what the husband knows about him and Gillian.

Unfortunately, the scene was Bravo-ized in the US. (Meaning, deleted in lieu of more commercials in syndication.)

oooh, so that was what she was supposed to say. NOW I get it LMAO!! Cybill you're the best :D :D Thanks CyBr:)

My pleasure, Dutchie! :)

Aha! So I guess she mixed her line up real good! hahahahaha
Great!
Thanx Cybr

now this is the way I like to see them!:D

Oh Taz, what a beautiful picture, I haven't seen it before!!! It's a great pic and I LOVE to see them like that :D

:D <-- Me, after seeing that picture.

where did you find it Taz?

I never reveal my sources!
LOL LOL
(I'm definitely on a roll!! )

ooooooh .... okay, I need a good reply?!?!

I think my rolling days are over...:confused:

Can't keep up forever!
And I'm a very good roller.

lol
:D

ROFL!!:lol:

What's with the rolling? :eek3: :lol:

I dunno you tell me! roflmao!!
:D :lol:

That's a great pic from The Golden Globes. Doesn't Cybill's dress look like the same one from the dance scene in When Girls Collide? just shorter?

How did you find such a big photo like that one? When I do find pics, they seem so small in comparison.

Originally posted by kismet
That's a great pic from The Golden Globes. Doesn't Cybill's dress look like the same one from the dance scene in When Girls Collide? just shorter?

How did you find such a big photo like that one? When I do find pics, they seem so small in comparison.

Actually Kis it is even bigger, I had to make it smaller for this site.
I don't even remember where I found it, I just Google the web and download them to my ML album.
I can send you any pic you want Kis, but then you'll have to give me an email adress.

Hope you enjoy it, gr Taz
Oh and I also believe it's the same dress! Nice one btw.