Vote. And please, no car accident jokes. ;)

Glass Houses

An Innocent Man. Only because I like that "Uptown Girl" song.

Hard to choose... but I went with The Stranger.

Dont know, but my fav song of his is Tell Her About It.

The Stranger.

I'm a sucker for 'Movin' Out'...

I couldn't decide between The Stranger or 52nd Street. The latter ultimately got my vote.

Since I haven't done one yet, here's the obligatory AKA top ten list for this thread.

Here are my top ten Billy Joel albums:

1. 52nd Street
2. The Stranger
3. The Nylon Curtain
4. Glass Houses
5. Turnstiles
6. Piano Man
7. The Bridge
8. River Of Dreams
9. Storm Front
10. Streetlife Serenade

None. never heard of him.

Billy Joel is awesome. He is an excellent musician. I personally was captivated by Piano Man.

Nylon Curtain is my favorite Billy Joel album.

Along with the hits from that album, there's Laura, She's Right On Time, Surprises...

Great album

Originally posted by Kristina
None. never heard of him.

you're the one being deprived

my faves are Glass Houses and Nylon Curtain. Stranger and 52nd Street are both good, but a little too jazz for me

Originally posted by AKA

Here are my top ten Billy Joel albums:

1. 52nd Street
2. The Stranger
3. The Nylon Curtain
4. Glass Houses
5. Turnstiles
6. Piano Man
7. The Bridge
8. River Of Dreams
9. Storm Front
10. Streetlife Serenade

Would I be right in assuming An Innocent Man was too commercial pop heavy that it didn't place in your top ten?

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
your loss. Has much more talent than any of your tweeny MTV/Disney Avril/Ashlee/Hilary's can ever dream of having. And how can you even be 10 and have never heard Billy Joel's music? that's like not knowing who The Beatles are

where did i say i liked ashlee simpson? good god, stop labeling/judging me because i like one singer that you don't. that is so ANNOYING.

i worded what i said wrong, i have heard his name and knew he was some singer... but i've never heard his music. i wasn't raised listening to old men. it's not my loss because i really don't care, he's prolly like some country rock dude. nobody cares.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
you're the one being deprived

way to edit your post. realized you sounded like an idiot?

Enough. If you have problems with each other, you can use PMs. That's what they are there for. Keep it off this thread and off this board, please.

Originally posted by Kristina
way to edit your post. realized you sounded like an idiot?

not as much as you sounded over never hearing his music before in your life, yet knowing Ashlee Simpson songs? Someones priorities are way off track

me and AKA were probably listening to Billy Joel before you were even BORN. If you don't like it, don't add your 2 cents to it. Nobody would bash Avril either if you didn't go over to a thread about Billy; A MEMBER OF THE HALL OF FAME, and one of the top 5 all time solo male artists in terms of album sales, and say that he not only sucks, but you've never even HEARD of him. Even most older Avril fans could tell you that Billy Joel certainly ranks a little higher on the all-time music polls than she does.

If you stop trashing me and AKA, both of us are probably a good decade older than you, we'll stop bashing you and what you like.

Originally posted by vashti1999
Would I be right in assuming An Innocent Man was too commercial pop heavy that it didn't place in your top ten?

Well, it's not because it's commercial pop per se. It was released toward the end of the big '50s nostalgia kick the nation was going through, and it shows. A lot of songs - even the biggest singles - are cringeworthy to me.

But there are still some great songs on there, namely "Leave A Tender Moment Alone" and the title track.

I'm going to quote myself, which is the epitome of laziness. :) Here's what I posted in an earlier thread:

Originally posted by AKA on 8/25/2003
With the exception of a few songs, An Innocent Man has always been my least favorite Billy Joel album. It seems kind of hokey. I know the point of the album is '50s and '60s "doo wop"/R&B nostalgia; it's just that it seems like most of that material would be more suited for Frankie Valli.

I know a lot of people like it. I think it's his third best-selling album, behind Greatest Hits Volume I & Volume II and The Stranger, respectively.

And like I said, I dig some of the songs on An Innocent Man. "Easy Money" is a great James Brown-inspired tune, and you can't go wrong with Toots Thielman's harmonica in "Leave A Tender Moment Alone." The singles from the album, though ("The Longest Time," "Tell Her About It," Uptown Girl;" etc.) I can defnitely go without.

I've since changed my tune on "The Longest Time." In fact, I've always kind of liked it. I guess I was just pretty sick of it at the time I posted that.

Originally posted by Brian
Enough. If you have problems with each other, you can use PMs. That's what they are there for. Keep it off this thread and off this board, please.

exactly, that is the reason why I edited my post after about 10 minutes.

When they say they don't know who Billy Joel (which I find very dificult to have never heard his music before) are, and then talk about Ashlee Simpson, you realize their age. And I edited my post to be civil, but looks like the other person doesn't play the same cards.

You don't even remember when MTV played music videos I bet.

In a few years, you will look back at Ashlee Simpson and Avril Lavigne and give it a good chuckle the way that girls who were 10 when I was that age were all obsessed over NKOTB yet now cringe and laugh about how they wanted to marry Jordan Knight.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
not as much as you sounded over never hearing his music before in your life, yet knowing Ashlee Simpson songs? Someones priorities are way off track

me and AKA were probably listening to Billy Joel before you were even BORN. If you don't like it, don't add your 2 cents to it. Nobody would bash Avril either if you didn't go over to a thread about Billy; A MEMBER OF THE HALL OF FAME, and one of the top 5 all time solo male artists in terms of album sales, and say that he not only sucks, but you've never even HEARD of him. Even most older Avril fans could tell you that Billy Joel certainly ranks a little higher on the all-time music polls than she does.

If you stop trashing me and AKA, both of us are probably a good decade older than you, we'll stop bashing you and what you like.

uh, did avril lavigne change her name to ashlee simpson? get your eyes checked, i said i DIDN'T like her. DIDN'T. D-I-D-N-'-T. Oh wait you'll probably think I meant Avril, I don't like ASHLEE SIMPSON. SHE IS HIDEOUS AND I WANT TO PUNCH HER FACE. CAN'T SAY MUCH ABOUT HER MUSIC CONSIDERING I'VE NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE. BUT ALRIGHT, I'M IN LOVE WITH HER IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO GO ON THINKING.

I can have my opinions. To hell with your precious little billy joel.

Originally posted by Brian
Enough. If you have problems with each other, you can use PMs. That's what they are there for. Keep it off this thread and off this board, please. not my fault i get attacked everytime i say my honest opinion or that i don't know who someone is. but it's all my fault, i'm a troublemaker right?

but alright, i have nothing else to say to him.

Anymore off-topic posts will be edited.

I'm going to say this. I hate to say this, and I am going to get some heat for it, but for once I actually agree with Kristina on something. She did give her opinion on it. When someone offers an opposing opinion, that does NOT necessarily mean that the person is trolling. Would you rather have someone post a thread knocking an artist or group? That probably wouldn't sound good. If any of you have any questions about this, PM me.

Originally posted by AKA
A lot of songs - even the biggest singles - are cringeworthy to me.

I've since changed my tune on "The Longest Time." In fact, I've always kind of liked it. I guess I was just pretty sick of it at the time I posted that.

That's funny, "The Longest Time" was always the one song I hated. Aside from that, I gotta say I really liked that album, Keeping The Faith, Tender Moment and Innocent Man were all big favorites of mine. And Uptown Girl, to this day I find that song catchy as hell. I can't help it, I love that song.

Originally posted by vashti1999
That's funny, "The Longest Time" was always the one song I hated. Aside from that, I gotta say I really liked that album, Keeping The Faith, Tender Moment and Innocent Man were all big favorites of mine. And Uptown Girl, to this day I find that song catchy as hell. I can't help it, I love that song.

I have to admit - I used to like "Uptown Girl." I think the dancing dudes wearing halfshirts in the video ruined it for me. :lol:

Originally posted by Brian
Anymore off-topic posts will be edited.

I'm going to say this. I hate to say this, and I am going to get some heat for it, but for once I actually agree with Kristina on something. She did give her opinion on it. When someone offers an opposing opinion, that does NOT necessarily mean that the person is trolling. Would you rather have someone post a thread knocking an artist or group? That probably wouldn't sound good. If any of you have any questions about this, PM me.

thx

Songs from An Innocent Man I do like:

Easy Money
An Innocent Man
This Night
The Longest Time
Leave A Tender Moment Alone
Keeping The Faith

Probably The Stranger. Most of my favorite BJ songs are on that one.

Originally posted by Brian
Anymore off-topic posts will be edited.

I'm going to say this. I hate to say this, and I am going to get some heat for it, but for once I actually agree with Kristina on something. She did give her opinion on it. When someone offers an opposing opinion, that does NOT necessarily mean that the person is trolling. Would you rather have someone post a thread knocking an artist or group? That probably wouldn't sound good. If any of you have any questions about this, PM me.

I agree. Why can't people just respect each other's opinions? If Kristina does not like Billy Joel, there is no law saying that she has to. Buffy, I have a great deal of respect for you and find your knowledge of music amazing. But Like Kristina, I also can not stand Billy Joel. I've always considered him a second rate Elton John. But just because someone doesn't like Billy Joel doesn't mean they know nothing about music. It just means they don't like Billy Joel. So let's all be friends here. :D

Hard to choose between The Stranger and 52nd Street! Two incredible albums that I grew up listening to.

Originally posted by dukey
If Kristina does not like Billy Joel, there is no law saying that she has to. Buffy, I have a great deal of respect for you and find your knowledge of music amazing. But Like Kristina, I also can not stand Billy Joel. I've always considered him a second rate Elton John. But just because someone doesn't like Billy Joel doesn't mean they know nothing about music. It just means they don't like Billy Joel. So let's all be friends here. :D

well, the reason I responded was because she posted in the first place to bash AKA (it initially said "you suck"). There are plenty of ways to politely say "I'm not a fan of Billy Joel" without coming across as trolling. And above that, I don't like being downed by a 12 year old when I'm twice that age. She has been unbelievably rude to me and a few other posters all because we don't agree that her amazing Ms. Lavigne is a "badass rock chick", that is why she attacked AKA on this thread. There is such a thing as "show respect to your elders", especially since most of us are adults in here, but we're stupid because we're old enough to see past the marketing when it comes to someone like Avril or Hilary or Ashlee instead of thinking they're "cool" because MTV brainwashes people to thinking so.

If you don't like Billy Joel, good for you, I only really like a few of his albums (I hate everything post-Innocent Man personally), but there are different ways to present disliking him. "Billy Joel is a second-rate Elton John" is totally different than "I don't like Billy Joel because he sucks". One form of disliking comes across much more mature than the other. For every artist I dislike, I've given valid reasons why I dislike them, as opposed to the age-old "sucks" rule. If you wanna like an artist I hate and hate an artist I like, good for you, more power to you, but when you start snapping at people because they dislike them, that's another thing.

I know the "tween" years suck, they were the worst of my life, but having a negative attitude is not going to help you one bit.


Now back to Billy Joel, someone who people will still be listening to in 30 years...

count me in as an An Innocent Man fan. Not his greatest, and was basically a rebound album (because Nylon Curtain wasn't such a hot seller compared to the 3 studio albums preceding it), but it did have a few classic songs on it.

Piano Man is my favorite, but I haven't heard them all.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
well, the reason I responded was because she posted in the first place to bash AKA (it initially said "you suck"). There are plenty of ways to politely say "I'm not a fan of Billy Joel" without coming across as trolling. And above that, I don't like being downed by a 12 year old when I'm twice that age. She has been unbelievably rude to me and a few other posters all because we don't agree that her amazing Ms. Lavigne is a "badass rock chick", that is why she attacked AKA on this thread. There is such a thing as "show respect to your elders", especially since most of us are adults in here, but we're stupid because we're old enough to see past the marketing when it comes to someone like Avril or Hilary or Ashlee instead of thinking they're "cool" because MTV brainwashes people to thinking so.

If you don't like Billy Joel, good for you, I only really like a few of his albums (I hate everything post-Innocent Man personally), but there are different ways to present disliking him. "Billy Joel is a second-rate Elton John" is totally different than "I don't like Billy Joel because he sucks". One form of disliking comes across much more mature than the other. For every artist I dislike, I've given valid reasons why I dislike them, as opposed to the age-old "sucks" rule. If you wanna like an artist I hate and hate an artist I like, good for you, more power to you, but when you start snapping at people because they dislike them, that's another thing.

I know the "tween" years suck, they were the worst of my life, but having a negative attitude is not going to help you one bit.


Now back to Billy Joel, someone who people will still be listening to in 30 years...

I will be an ADULT in about 2 months, actually. I don't know where you got 12 from. The "tween" years. :rolleyes: Yeah.... right. This is like the third or fourth time I have told you that I'm 17. I'm not trying to start another fight, I just want to state the fact that I'm not 12 years old, k mods? I don't like when people say things about me that aren't true. That's all.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
well, the reason I responded was because she posted in the first place to bash AKA (it initially said "you suck"). There are plenty of ways to politely say "I'm not a fan of Billy Joel" without coming across as trolling. And above that, I don't like being downed by a 12 year old when I'm twice that age. She has been unbelievably rude to me and a few other posters all because we don't agree that her amazing Ms. Lavigne is a "badass rock chick", that is why she attacked AKA on this thread. There is such a thing as "show respect to your elders", especially since most of us are adults in here, but we're stupid because we're old enough to see past the marketing when it comes to someone like Avril or Hilary or Ashlee instead of thinking they're "cool" because MTV brainwashes people to thinking so.

If you don't like Billy Joel, good for you, I only really like a few of his albums (I hate everything post-Innocent Man personally), but there are different ways to present disliking him. "Billy Joel is a second-rate Elton John" is totally different than "I don't like Billy Joel because he sucks". One form of disliking comes across much more mature than the other. For every artist I dislike, I've given valid reasons why I dislike them, as opposed to the age-old "sucks" rule. If you wanna like an artist I hate and hate an artist I like, good for you, more power to you, but when you start snapping at people because they dislike them, that's another thing.

I know the "tween" years suck, they were the worst of my life, but having a negative attitude is not going to help you one bit.


Now back to Billy Joel, someone who people will still be listening to in 30 years...

I see what you are getting at. I'm sorry if what I wrote offended you. As I mentioned above, I have the most respect for your vast knowledge of music, same with AKA. Kristina should in no way attack the two of you. That is very rude of her to do so. But you should not attack her back, after all she's only a kid. Teenagers often act in a manner that is improper. I know I sure did! And as the oldest of the three of us (you, AKA and me), I don't think that we have quite reached the age of being "elders" yet. Don't age us too much:D . Again, I mean to show no respect to you, AKA or anyone else. By the way, there is actually one Billy Joel album that I do like and that is Storm Front (that's my vote up there), "We Didn't Start The Fire" is a great song! :)

Dang, I wish my Led Zeppelin, Doors and Guns N' Roses threads had gotten this much response!

Originally posted by dukey
By the way, there is actually one Billy Joel album that I do like and that is Storm Front (that's my vote up there), "We Didn't Start The Fire" is a great song! :)

Storm Front is great, but overproduced. But the producer of the album co-wrote "Juke Box Hero," so one shouldn't be surprised.

Originally posted by AKA
Storm Front is great, but overproduced. But the producer of the album co-wrote "Juke Box Hero," so one shouldn't be surprised.

I liked Stormfront a lot when I was younger, but now a lot of what was wrong with the production of it hurts it immensely 14 years on. We Didn't Start The Fire still rocks tho. But I am not too wild about this album, The Bridge or River Of Dreams.

Re: We Didn't Start The Fire

I remember on one of those sarcastic VH1 programs, they discussed the song, and the panelists were talking about how Billy was trying to lure people in by naming all those things off, like he goes "punk rock", and then "heavy metal", etc... I heard Billy himself hates the song. But it's still a fun frivolous song that you can't help singing along to.

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I liked Stormfront a lot when I was younger, but now a lot of what was wrong with the production of it hurts it immensely 14 years on. We Didn't Start The Fire still rocks tho. But I am not too wild about this album, The Bridge or River Of Dreams.

The Bridge is great. It took me awhile to warm up to it, but I think it's one of his stronger albums of the '80s.

I love River Of Dreams, too. Billy sounds angry and bitter on a lot of those songs because he was. He was going through a really rough period in his life, and eleven years later, I don't think things have gotten much better for him.

Originally posted by AKA
The Bridge is great. It took me awhile to warm up to it, but I think it's one of his stronger albums of the '80s.



I agree. It never really got that much attention, but The Bridge has some good stuff.

What does everyone think about "Cold Spring Harbor?"

I really like the album. It certainly was a lot different than what Billy Joel eventually evolved into.

I used to play that album for friends, and asked them to name the artist, none of them thought of Billy Joel.


;)

I like Cold Spring Harbor, but it's weird listening to it, because I know that there are other musical instruments that were edited out of the original recordings twelve years later (I've only heard the 1983 remix of the album, and various boots of "original versions" of songs) that I'm not hearing.

Hopefully one day, Sony will issue the original version of the album (at its correct speed, of course).

Originally posted by AKA
Storm Front is great, but overproduced. But the producer of the album co-wrote "Juke Box Hero," so one shouldn't be surprised.

Did you know that Eddie Van Halen was asked to produce Storm Front?

Originally posted by dukey
Did you know that Eddie Van Halen was asked to produce Storm Front?

Really?

Wow. That would have been interesting..

Originally posted by dukey
Did you know that Eddie Van Halen was asked to produce Storm Front?

I did not know that.

Earlier, I blamed Mick Jones for the overproduction on the album. I retract that. I don't think I should blame the person; I should blame the era. The mid-'80s through the early-'90s had the most sterile, overproduced albums in history.

I'm not really a big fan of Billy Joel, but I guess out of the BJ albums I've heard, I'd pick The Stranger. Joel came close to being the East Coast Randy Newman he should have been on that album.

I'm the only one who voted for Nylon Curtain?

;)

Originally posted by TJL
I'm the only one who voted for Nylon Curtain?

;)

Looks like it. :) I love that album, but I had to give 52nd Street its due.

Vashti, I just gave An Innocent Man a spin for the first time in I don't know how long, and I'm warming back up to it. It's still far from my favorite, but it's actually a pretty good album.

And, duh - I never got what "Told ya my reason for the whole revival" meant at the end of the album until just this second.