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TVFactFan
06-12-2004, 02:00 AM
Maude, These two sitcoms have a LOT in Common. Both shows dealt with similar topics. Even Though GT is not a spinoff, LOL These were the similarities between the two shows.

Walter's Drinking Problem/Keith Drinking Problem

Maude and Thelma smacked by their husbands

Both shows had eps dealing with Drug Use

Maude Mood swings/Florida Mood swing

Walter was laid off/James was laid off

Both shows had eps dealing with Pregnancy

Findlays were Robbed/Evans were robbed

Walter/Maude and James/Florida spend romantic weekend at Cabin

Walter and James both had a sudden passion for Religion

Maude and Florida's Nephew caused problems when they came to Visit and were asked to Leave

Lady T
06-12-2004, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Maude, These two sitcoms have a LOT in Common. Both shows dealt with similar topics. Even Though GT is not a spinoff, LOL These were the topics both shows dealt with.

Alcoholism
Abortion
Rage In what episode was there abortion mentioned on Good Times?

TVFactFan
06-12-2004, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Undercover Angel
In what episode was there abortion mentioned on Good Times?


I didn't mean to say abortion. I made a mistake.

Lady T
06-12-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I didn't mean to say abortion. I made a mistake. Oh, I thought there was an un-aired episode where JJ accidently knocks some chick up, like that actress Ta-Tanisha..Ta-Tanisha and Jimmie Walker..What beautiful Babies they would make....

TVFactFan
06-13-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Undercover Angel
Oh, I thought there was an un-aired episode where JJ accidently knocks some chick up, like that actress Ta-Tanisha..Ta-Tanisha and Jimmie Walker..What beautiful Babies they would make....


I forgot to mention that Ron Glass also guest starred on Maude and Good Times

sitcomfan1
06-15-2004, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Maude, These two sitcoms have a LOT in Common. Both shows dealt with similar topics. Even Though GT is not a spinoff, Actually Good Times was a Spin off of Maude, Florida was Maude's maid. James name on Maude was Henry and was changed on Good Times. They did a show on Maude where Florida quits to stay at home to be with the kids. Both shows were also created by Norman Lear.

TVFactFan
06-15-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by sitcomfan1
Actually Good Times was a Spin off of Maude, Florida was Maude's maid. James name on Maude was Henry and was changed on Good Times. They did a show on Maude where Florida quits to stay at home to be with the kids. Both shows were also created by Norman Lear.


No Good Times was not a spinoff of Maude. I will be happy to explain in a private message.

sitcomfan1
06-16-2004, 03:44 AM
Okay, explain away.:D

TVFactFan
06-16-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by sitcomfan1
Okay, explain away.:D

Best Explanation.

Esther Rolle's and John Amos characters on Maude were written off so they both could star in a NEW TYPE OF SITCOM-called Good Times. If you knew further explanation I will send you a PM

GeeBee
06-16-2004, 07:05 PM
Actually, Good Times was a spin-off from Maude. This is just some kind of a game that TVShow likes to play with us.

TVFactFan
06-16-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Actually, Good Times was a spin-off from Maude. This is just some kind of a game that TVShow likes to play with us.


Believe me, it's no game.

GeeBee
06-16-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Believe me, it's no game.


There he goes again....What a cut up...Okay, TAG, TVShow...You're IT again!

Moonlight Lady
06-21-2004, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by sitcomfan1
Actually Good Times was a Spin off of Maude, Florida was Maude's maid. James name on Maude was Henry and was changed on Good Times. They did a show on Maude where Florida quits to stay at home to be with the kids. Both shows were also created by Norman Lear.

Yeah, there's been alot of controversy about this, there always will be, I'm sure. I've always thought that too, until lately.

I've been watching lots of Maude episodes lately and replaying some of Good Times episodes over in my head trying to remember if Maude characters were ever referred to on GT.
There were none. Personally, I think that if The Evans family had stayed in Harlem, and they kept Mr. Evans' first name Henry and they did crossovers with Maude, then yes, it would be a spinoff.

You are right, both shows are created by Norman Lear, but that doesn't always make them spin-offs. Too bad they aren't, I would've loved the occasional Maude/Good Times crossover.

So, I'm going to go with TVshow Analyzer on this one.






*Did any of that make sense?*

TVFactFan
06-21-2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Katie
Yeah, there's been alot of controversy about this, there always will be, I'm sure. I've always thought that too, until lately.

I've been watching lots of Maude episodes lately and replaying some of Good Times episodes over in my head trying to remember if Maude characters were ever referred to on GT.
There were none. Personally, I think that if The Evans family had stayed in Harlem, and they kept Mr. Evans' first name Henry and they did crossovers with Maude, then yes, it would be a spinoff.

You are right, both shows are created by Norman Lear, but that doesn't always make them spin-offs. Too bad they aren't, I would've loved the occasional Maude/Good Times crossover.

So, I'm going to go with TVshow Analyzer on this one.






*Did any of that make sense?*


Exactly, plus the Show Good Times is about the experience of Eric Monte's life when he grew up in Chicago. So how could GT be a spinoff of Maude? So Katie I'm glad you see my point.

TVFactFan
06-21-2004, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Katie
Yeah, there's been alot of controversy about this, there always will be, I'm sure. I've always thought that too, until lately.

I've been watching lots of Maude episodes lately and replaying some of Good Times episodes over in my head trying to remember if Maude characters were ever referred to on GT.
There were none. Personally, I think that if The Evans family had stayed in Harlem, and they kept Mr. Evans' first name Henry and they did crossovers with Maude, then yes, it would be a spinoff.

You are right, both shows are created by Norman Lear, but that doesn't always make them spin-offs. Too bad they aren't, I would've loved the occasional Maude/Good Times crossover.

So, I'm going to go with TVshow Analyzer on this one.






*Did any of that make sense?*



PLus CBS sent camera crews to Chicago because it was a show created by Eric Monte. If it was a spinoff, CBS would have sent a camera crew to the Harlem section of NYC. Some people can't seem to understand that.LOL

Moonlight Lady
06-21-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Exactly, plus the Show Good Times is about the experience of Eric Monte's life when he grew up in Chicago. So how could GT be a spinoff of Maude? So Katie I'm glad you see my point.

:)

Sure took me long enough.

GeeBee
06-21-2004, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Exactly, plus the Show Good Times is about the experience of Eric Monte's life when he grew up in Chicago. So how could GT be a spinoff of Maude? So Katie I'm glad you see my point.

The show was based on his life; it wasn't an exact autobiography. The characters were spun-off from Maude into a show with episodes about his experiences growing up.

GeeBee
06-21-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Katie


Personally, I think that if The Evans family had stayed in Harlem, and they kept Mr. Evans' first name Henry and they did crossovers with Maude, then yes, it would be a spinoff.




They probably changed the name to James so they could have the character of James Junior, better known as J.J.

Also, as I've pointed out before, a man can have more than one name.

ThomasE
06-21-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Exactly, plus the Show Good Times is about the experience of Eric Monte's life when he grew up in Chicago. So how could GT be a spinoff of Maude? So Katie I'm glad you see my point.

SOLOMON. It is time to bury this topic. This had gone beyond deep. Many of us feel that it is a spinoff because it is. Plain and simple. Wow! Anyways we need to finalize the trade. Respond with you address when you can. LOL. I can't believe this is jstill going. Stop the insanity! Stop the madness! :lol: The debate will never die.

TVFactFan
06-21-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
The show was based on his life; it wasn't an exact autobiography. The characters were spun-off from Maude into a show with episodes about his experiences growing up.


WHAT did the life of Eric Monte have to do with MAUDE????????-LOL

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
WHAT did the life of Eric Monte have to do with MAUDE????????-LOL


Who knows? Maybe there was an employer somewhere along the line. In any case, Good Times was not an exact duplicate of his life. The plots and scenario were just inspired by it. You should stop seeing things as such absolutes.

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 10:27 AM
Ok. This is the fact. GOOD TIMES IS NOT a spinoff of Maude in any way shape or form... The Parents on Good Times are based on the characters seen on Maude. But it is in no way a spinoff. They are NOT the same characters.

THere was only ONE spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family. and that was CHecking In!!..I even saw this asked on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". It asked the same question and both Maude and Checking In were in the choices. THe guy chose Good Times and lost. Such as Life...Hopefully this clears it up.

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Ok. This is the fact. GOOD TIMES IS NOT a spinoff of Maude in any way shape or form... The Parents on Good Times are based on the characters seen on Maude. But it is in no way a spinoff. They are NOT the same characters.

If the parents were based on the characters from Maude, it was a spin-off.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail

THere was only ONE spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family. and that was CHecking In!!..I even saw this asked on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". It asked the same question and both Maude and Checking In were in the choices. THe guy chose Good Times and lost. Such as Life...Hopefully this clears it up.


Sorry, but everyone would not consider "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" as the source of the ultimate truth.

TVFactFan
06-22-2004, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Ok. This is the fact. GOOD TIMES IS NOT a spinoff of Maude in any way shape or form... The Parents on Good Times are based on the characters seen on Maude. But it is in no way a spinoff. They are NOT the same characters.

THere was only ONE spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family. and that was CHecking In!!..I even saw this asked on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". It asked the same question and both Maude and Checking In were in the choices. THe guy chose Good Times and lost. Such as Life...Hopefully this clears it up.


THank you. It's a shame GeeBee can't understand that.

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
THank you. It's a shame GeeBee can't understand that.


A tragedy...:rolleyes:

Moonlight Lady
06-22-2004, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Ok. This is the fact. GOOD TIMES IS NOT a spinoff of Maude in any way shape or form... The Parents on Good Times are based on the characters seen on Maude. But it is in no way a spinoff. They are NOT the same characters.

THere was only ONE spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family. and that was CHecking In!!..I even saw this asked on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". It asked the same question and both Maude and Checking In were in the choices. THe guy chose Good Times and lost. Such as Life...Hopefully this clears it up.

Thank you :)

I remember Checking In. Florence from The Jeffersons spun off into her own show.

TVFactFan
06-22-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
A tragedy...:rolleyes:


I'm about to call Norman Lear so we can put a end to this-lol

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
If the parents were based on the characters from Maude, it was a spin-off.




Sorry, but everyone would not consider "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" as the source of the ultimate truth.

It just validated what I already knew. Norman Lear was on Live at Five many years ago in NYC and stated exactly how I stated it. The idea for the characters came from Flo and Henry. But they were not the same characters and was not a spinoff. Not that it matters to me anyway. Just stating what I know to be fact. If you want to be wrong about it that is your business. It is something I notice you enjoy being anyway!!

Brian Damage
06-22-2004, 11:05 AM
Good Times was a spinoff. Until Norman Lear himself says it wasn't(Which by the way he NEVER has) then I will continue to call it a spinoff.



PS, Checking In was a spinoff of The Jeffersons NOT All in the Family.

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 11:14 AM
Norman Lear DID state it.

and read again sir. I said it was the ONLY SPinoff of a SPINOFF of All in the Family. WHich it was. I believe (this I am not 100% certain) that it was the only ever double spinoff. Good Times is not a spin off. It was its own show.

Norman Lear stated it as he was interviewed for some failed sticom that had a new family living at Archie Bunkers house. I wonder if that would have been considered some sort of spinoff.

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Norman Lear DID state it.

and read again sir. I said it was the ONLY SPinoff of a SPINOFF of All in the Family. WHich it was. I believe (this I am not 100% certain) that it was the only ever double spinoff. Good Times is not a spin off. It was its own show.

Norman Lear stated it as he was interviewed for some failed sticom that had a new family living at Archie Bunkers house. I wonder if that would have been considered some sort of spinoff.


If he didn't want it to be classified as a spin-off, he shouldn't have used the same characters from Maude in the same family situation. If a man makes a chair and calls it a table, it's still a chair.

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I'm about to call Norman Lear so we can put a end to this-lol


I think I've heard that one before.

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
It just validated what I already knew. Norman Lear was on Live at Five many years ago in NYC and stated exactly how I stated it. The idea for the characters came from Flo and Henry. But they were not the same characters and was not a spinoff. Not that it matters to me anyway. Just stating what I know to be fact. If you want to be wrong about it that is your business. It is something I notice you enjoy being anyway!!


Nah, it doesn't matter to you. You're just about to wear out your keyboard by pounding all those exclamation points.

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
If he didn't want it to be classified as a spin-off, he shouldn't have used the same characters from Maude in the same family situation. If a man makes a chair and calls it a table, it's still a chair.

He didn't say anything about building chairs and calling them tables. He said it was not a spinoff of Maude. So you are still WRONG dear!!

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Nah, it doesn't matter to you. You're just about to wear out your keyboard by pounding all those exclamation points.

That doesn't make you less wrong dear!!

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
That doesn't make you less wrong dear!!


Get a life.

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Get a life.

LOL! You are WRONG!!

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
LOL! You are WRONG!!


<yawn>

JREwingBlackmail
06-22-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
<yawn>

more like......:crybaby:

GeeBee
06-22-2004, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
more like......:crybaby:


Please don't cry.

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Please don't cry.

I know your colicky. Make sure your mommy tucks you in dear.

GeeBee
06-23-2004, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
I know your colicky. Make sure your mommy tucks you in dear.

:lol:

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 12:09 AM
yawn

Lady T
06-23-2004, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I forgot to mention that Ron Glass also guest starred on Maude and Good Times I know, I have those episodes on Tape....

GeeBee
06-23-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
yawn


Nighty night.

sitcomfan1
06-23-2004, 07:59 AM
According to this article it says Good Times is a spin off of a spin off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 10:17 AM
I'll take Norman Lear's word for it. It was his show.

Good Times is as much of a spinoff of the Brady Bunch. (Florida knew Alice at some servants get togethers) as it is from Maude!!

dlemond
06-23-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Ok. This is the fact. GOOD TIMES IS NOT a spinoff of Maude in any way shape or form... The Parents on Good Times are based on the characters seen on Maude. But it is in no way a spinoff. They are NOT the same characters.

THere was only ONE spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family. and that was CHecking In!!..I even saw this asked on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire". It asked the same question and both Maude and Checking In were in the choices. THe guy chose Good Times and lost. Such as Life...Hopefully this clears it up.

I would like someone else to confirm this actually happened because it sounds fairly bogus.

Especially dealing with a show that most people consider a spinoff and another one that 99% of the public would not remember.

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by dlemond
I would like someone else to confirm this actually happened because it sounds fairly bogus.

Especially dealing with a show that most people consider a spinoff and another one that 99% of the public would not remember.

99% of people think the Baby Ruth candy bar is named after Babe Ruth.

99% of people (if this is the case) are wrong!!

dlemond
06-23-2004, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
99% of people think the Baby Ruth candy bar is named after Babe Ruth.

99% of people (if this is the case) are wrong!!

All I asked was for someone to confirm that they have seen this segment of Who Wants to be a Millionaire.

Is that too much to ask?

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 12:00 PM
not at all. I've seen it. THERE.

But seriously try the game show board. Somebody had to have seen it. It did happen. The question was.. Which was a spinoff of a spinoff of All in the Family.

Both Good TImes and Checking In were in the choices. Only one right answer. Which was Checking In.

If it helps. this was when it was on PrimeTime and Regis was hosting!!

dlemond
06-23-2004, 12:19 PM
I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just think it's funny since we have been arguing about this from the first day Solomon signed up!

Brian Damage
06-23-2004, 12:40 PM
Sorry, but there is no proof other than your word. And that's not quite cutting it. Norman Lear didn't say such a thing and I seriously doubt you about Who wants to be a millionaire. Florida Evans is still Florida Evans. Therefor, it is a spinoff.

Moonlight Lady
06-23-2004, 01:06 PM
Well it's safe to say that. Even though we disagree on whether GT it is or isn't a spinoff, I'm sure we can all agree that
it gives us alot to talk about and dare I say, educational in some way. :D

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Sorry, but there is no proof other than your word. And that's not quite cutting it. Norman Lear didn't say such a thing and I seriously doubt you about Who wants to be a millionaire. Florida Evans is still Florida Evans. Therefor, it is a spinoff.

No..YOU are wrong. Norman Lear DID state it. and it WAS IN FACT a question on WWTBAM. You can doubt or think otherwise all you want. Doesn't make you any LESS WRONG!!

I guess Florida found a better paying maid job in Chicago so moved out of the NYC ghetto to the Chicago one!!

Brian Damage
06-23-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
I guess Florida found a better paying maid job in Chicago so moved out of the NYC ghetto to the Chicago one!!

Thank You!!

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 01:50 PM
I guess it is lost on you how ridiculous that is.

TVFactFan
06-23-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Thank You!!


Brian would you like to share with everyone that i mailed you a article from a 1975 EBONY MAGAZINE ISSUE and inside the Executive Producer, Alan Manings said-"GT is really not a spinoff"


IF anyone wants a copy of the article send me a PM

JREwingBlackmail
06-23-2004, 09:26 PM
Hmmm ..Guess now it is a slam dunk aye?

I am always right. I thought I was wrong one time but I was mistaken!!

Brian Damage
06-23-2004, 10:10 PM
The article itself stated it that Florida was spun from Maude so send the article to everyone!!

!! :lol:

GeeBee
06-24-2004, 01:00 AM
I would take everything this particular poster says with a shaker of salt. His past actions on this board and his current posts make his word somewhat suspect.

JREwingBlackmail
06-24-2004, 11:08 AM
You are being very judgemental. Doesn't that contradict your utopia views??

GeeBee
06-24-2004, 11:47 AM
Utopia is in the eyes of the beholder.

JREwingBlackmail
06-24-2004, 06:21 PM
True. But unfortunately it only exists in a dreamworld!

GeeBee
06-24-2004, 08:21 PM
A dreamworld is also in the eye of the beholder, my child.

ThomasE
06-24-2004, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Sorry, but there is no proof other than your word. And that's not quite cutting it. Norman Lear didn't say such a thing and I seriously doubt you about Who wants to be a millionaire. Florida Evans is still Florida Evans. Therefor, it is a spinoff.

:lol: I know, right? It is not hard to miss.

JREwingBlackmail
06-25-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
A dreamworld is also in the eye of the beholder, my child.

Yes yes. Teach the children that and they will hang themselves the first time they get a parking ticket!!

Brian Damage
06-25-2004, 10:11 AM
Hey Solomon, why do you keep bringing up that article, when it does say that Florida was spun from Maude onto her own show?

TVFactFan
06-25-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Hey Solomon, why do you keep bringing up that article, when it does say that Florida was spun from Maude onto her own show?


Well i have to read it again because i remember something different

GeeBee
06-25-2004, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Yes yes. Teach the children that and they will hang themselves the first time they get a parking ticket!!


Skip it, son, it's over your head.

JREwingBlackmail
06-26-2004, 10:47 AM
LOL coming from a person that does not draw a line between reality and fantasy.

GeeBee
06-26-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
LOL coming from a person that does not draw a line between reality and fantasy.


If you consider an honest life to be a fantasy world, I'm sorry for you, son. I really mean that.

TVFactFan
06-26-2004, 01:43 PM
Let me try to get Thread back on topic.

Good Times did not come from Maude but the two shows did have a lot in common. Agree or Disagree?

W.J. Griffin
06-26-2004, 06:48 PM
We-elll...yes and no...

YES, Florida Evans was spun off from "Maude"...this, we can all agree upon. However, Florida herself was the ONLY element from "Maude" to be spun off...Henry Evans, the firefighter in New York City became James Evans, Sr., a sometimes employed dishwasher/janitor; the Evans family themselves resided in Chicago, not Harlem, and the children...J.J., Thelma, and Michael...are clearly defined individuals in this version, as opposed to their somewhat nebulous existance in the "Maude" continuity.

There are a lot of compelling arguments confirming that the show is, indeed, what many on this board claim it is...and then there's Solomon's version, which, belive it or not, also carries a bit of credibility.

So where does this leave us in reference to the status of "Good Times" as a spin-off? Only Norman Lear knows, and he ain't a-talkin'...

(However, if Mr. Lear, or for that matter, Mike Evans or Eric Monte, are monitoring these post...HELP!!!)

TVFactFan
06-26-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by W.J. Griffin
We-elll...yes and no...

YES, Florida Evans was spun off from "Maude"...this, we can all agree upon. However, Florida herself was the ONLY element from "Maude" to be spun off...Henry Evans, the firefighter in New York City became James Evans, Sr., a sometimes employed dishwasher/janitor; the Evans family themselves resided in Chicago, not Harlem, and the children...J.J., Thelma, and Michael...are clearly defined individuals in this version, as opposed to their somewhat nebulous existance in the "Maude" continuity.

There are a lot of compelling arguments confirming that the show is, indeed, what many on this board claim it is...and then there's Solomon's version, which, belive it or not, also carries a bit of credibility.

So where does this leave us in reference to the status of "Good Times" as a spin-off? Only Norman Lear knows, and he ain't a-talkin'...

(However, if Mr. Lear, or for that matter, Mike Evans or Eric Monte, are monitoring these post...HELP!!!)



Yes i would say i have credilibility, especially when i have a 1975 article with the Executive Producer saying-"IT"S NOT REALLY A SPINOFF"-lol So i was able to support my argument.

JREwingBlackmail
06-26-2004, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by GeeBigot
If you consider an honest life to be a fantasy world, I'm sorry for you, son. I really mean that.

No dear...A dreamworld is a fantasy world. Don't feel sorry for me bigot. I feel sorry for you and your myopia!!

I live a honest life dear. Never broke a law in my life. Total clean living!!

But even in this case possesion is 9/10ths of the law

The issues on this episode were NOT if they were breaking any laws.

But if it would be accepted by Jesus Christ...

He found the money and didn't steal it.

Oh and BTW I love how you turn everything into a political thread. and you are WAY off on my political views bigot!

GeeBee
06-27-2004, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
No dear...A dreamworld is a fantasy world. Don't feel sorry for me bigot. I feel sorry for you and your myopia!!

I live a honest life dear. Never broke a law in my life. Total clean living!!

But even in this case possesion is 9/10ths of the law

The issues on this episode were NOT if they were breaking any laws.

But if it would be accepted by Jesus Christ...

He found the money and didn't steal it.

Oh and BTW I love how you turn everything into a political thread. and you are WAY off on my political views bigot!


Yeah, I can tell just by your name that you are the poster boy for honesty. :lol:

Brian Damage
06-27-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Yeah, I can tell just by your name that you are the poster boy for honesty. :lol:

:lol:

JREwingBlackmail
06-27-2004, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Yeah, I can tell just by your name that you are the poster boy for honesty. :lol:

Gee maybe the fact I enjoy "Dallas" never entered your feeble head bigot!!

Most bigots have small brains so I understand!

GeeBee
06-28-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Gee maybe the fact I enjoy "Dallas" never entered your feeble head bigot!!

Most bigots have small brains so I understand!


You apparently like the concept of keeping stolen money and blackmail too. Hope I didn't hit a nerve. :)

JREwingBlackmail
06-28-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by GeeBigot
You apparently like the concept of keeping stolen money and blackmail too. Hope I didn't hit a nerve. :)

No. I wouldn't have kept the money. I keep my family in a nice neighborhood where I don't have to depend on a sleezy grocer who should be shut down by the board of health.

You didn't hit a nerve bigot. Like I said it is a TV show so all is well. Thank you for your concern though!!

GeeBee
06-28-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by BabyJohn
No. I wouldn't have kept the money. I keep my family in a nice neighborhood where I don't have to depend on a sleezy grocer who should be shut down by the board of health.

You didn't hit a nerve bigot. Like I said it is a TV show so all is well. Thank you for your concern though!!

Sorry, John John.

JREwingBlackmail
06-28-2004, 07:43 PM
yawn

GeeBee
06-28-2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by BabyJohn
yawn


Time for your nap.

JREwingBlackmail
06-28-2004, 07:50 PM
Yawn. Bigots always put me to sleep.

GeeBee
06-28-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by BabyJohn
Yawn. Bigots always put me to sleep.


Good night.

ThomasE
06-29-2004, 06:59 PM
...so (changing subject) Good Times is set in Chicago, huh?

JREwingBlackmail
06-29-2004, 07:15 PM
Yes. Florida and Henry lived in NY

Florida and James lived in Chicago.

Maybe Florida and James had twins.


Good TImes is as much of a spinoff of Maude as SEINFELD is.

Brian Damage
06-29-2004, 10:36 PM
This coming from our resident expert who lies about things that happened but never did.

James"Thunder"Early
06-29-2004, 10:57 PM
There is no way this is not a spinoff. the characters are them same, they are just in a different city. this happened I think because they wanted to give the show a head start and using the characters from Maude was the best way to do that. It is incorrect to say it's not tied to Maude, because Florida was in Maude for two seasons. the answer is that Good Times was not written as a spinoff of Maude, it was written as a separate series.

TVFactFan
06-29-2004, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by CoolCounty
There is no way this is not a spinoff. the characters are them same, they are just in a different city. this happened I think because they wanted to give the show a head start and using the characters from Maude was the best way to do that. It is incorrect to say it's not tied to Maude, because Florida was in Maude for two seasons. the answer is that Good Times was not written as a spinoff of Maude, it was written as a separate series.


Correct, GT was witten as a seperate show which means it was not a spinoff.

ThomasE
06-29-2004, 11:22 PM
I agree. Every spinoff does not have to be done in the traditional sense. It it very clear to see that the show is indeed a spinoff. Too easy if you ask me. However, I guess we have to respect the opinions of those who feel different.


All in the Family put George and Louise into their own world
It also put Maude into her own world.
Maude also had the characters named Florida and Henry Evans that were put into their own world but not according to the traditional standards. The idea for "Good Times" was concieved in 1971 in a script called "The Black Family". It did not take off yet. One of the main characters was place on "Maude" and would be used to launch "the Black Fam." in due time.

Knots Landing like Good Times was concieved earlier than it's precedor(darn my spelling!:eek: ) but was not picked up so "Dallas" came into play. It took two Ewing charcters from the show and used them to bridge Knots Landing and it is said that Knots is a Dallas spinoff even by David Jacobs the creator.

See the similarities between the two. Although the geografical biography was changed, the characters were taken from one show and put into their own.

One more example would be "Billy" starring Billy MacGregor. He was on "Head of the Class" then was spun off the following season but his backround was changed never mentioning that he was a teacher at Filmore High on HOTC. Same character, but again geographical switches were made again. He is not in New York City teaching but in some suburban area marrying some woman to get his Greencard.

James"Thunder"Early
06-30-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Correct, GT was witten as a seperate show which means it was not a spinoff. It is still a spinoff, because it used characters from Maude.

Brian Damage
06-30-2004, 11:25 AM
Correct. Florida Evans was still Florida Evans. A maid on Maude, a former maid on Good Times.

ThomasE
06-30-2004, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by CoolCounty
It is still a spinoff, because it used characters from Maude.

That is it in a nutshell.