This is a message from olsen-twins.org:

We have recieved communication from Dualstar's lawyer's basically telling us to take the website offline and hand it over to them or else.

Discuss this in our forums. (http://forums.olsen-twins.org)

So, we're just going to take it offline now. So, goodbye for now, we hope we'll see you soon, watch this space everyday, promise us!

It's been fun running this site, but now it's time to say goodbye until further notice.

Thanks to everyone who's helped run the site over the past year. It's been a great success I think you'll agree.

So for a final (for now) goodbye from the olsen-twins.org web team.

For those of you who donated, your donation was not wasted, it helped keep it open as long as we could. Thank you all.

Lee

Owner of olsen-twins.org

I can't stand this site anymore.:mad: Now I can find some Olsen Twins pictures on other websites. I missed olsen-twins.org.:(

Yeah, I saw that a few days ago...that's sad. I knew it would be coming one day...it's illegal to put whole episodes on the internet for download....but it was nice while it lasted.

Hopefully theirpictures are back online sometime again...because that was the only Olsen site I went to. :(

Originally posted by BrooklynGuy78


I can't stand this site anymore.:mad: Now I can find some Olsen Twins pictures on other websites. I missed olsen-twins.org.:(

Are you mad at olsen-twins.org or Dualstar the company? It's Dualstar you should be mad at, but it does make sense...if people are downloading the episodes off of that site then they're not going to buy the videos/DVD's.

Originally posted by barb1686
Are you mad at olsen-twins.org or Dualstar the company? It's Dualstar you should be mad at, but it does make sense...if people are downloading the episodes off of that site then they're not going to buy the videos/DVD's.

Unlike Kazaa or Kazaa Lite, Dualstar is the company that makes the twins' movies and they're not allowed to download episodes from that site. Only the pictures belongs to this site. It will be back online soon.

*gasps* You mean it's never coming back again? :(

I LOVED THE VIDEOS!
Thank God I saved some of them.

I second that! I'm glad I saved all the Full House episodes (I believe I forgot to download the "Sea Cruise" episode :(), and I have saved the Two of a Kind episode and the clips.

I can understand the DualStar company, however. But at the same time, I can't understand them! Were there any immediate plans to put out a Full House/Two of a Kind DVD? I doubt it.

On the other hand, I myself would still buy any future DVDs they would release because of extras that TV show DVDs put out.

All the downloads are currently up; snag them now if you want them before they are gone.

Does Dualstar even have jurisdiction of Full House? I don't think DualStar can make any kind of legal judgement, I think Warner Brothers has the rights to that.

You're 100% right. WB has the rights for "Full House", not Dualstar.:) IMO, Dualstar does not have the right to download these clips from certain Mary-Kate & Ashley shows. These clips from the media section at olsen-twins.org are illegal.

Guess what! Olsen-twins.org is back on and running.:clap: Thanks to everyone. I hope soon, maybe the "Full House" and "Two of a Kind" clips will be remove from this site. Only the pictures.:) It's back on.

Yah!! Good!
It's my favorite MaryKate and Ashley website!! :)

I just went to look at that website. It said in order to stay open you need to donate as little as $3

Due to the extreme popularity of olsen-twins.org we are struggling to keep up with server payments so we need your help to keep it open. As you should know, we have the largest media library of Mary-Kate and Ashley material on the internet and if we want to keep it that way we'll need your help to meet the $350 operation costs per month that currently lee and dan pay for with their own money and help from the kind few who have donated so far.

So, if you can spare some cash, please donate either by clicking the link above or goingto the donations section which is in the menu. As little as $3 is a big help!

Thank you,
The Olsen-Twins.org Web Team

Due to the extreme popularity of olsen-twins.org we are struggling to keep up with server payments so we need your help to keep it open. As you should know, we have the largest media library of Mary-Kate and Ashley material on the internet and if we want to keep it that way we'll need your help to meet the $350 operation costs per month that currently lee and dan pay for with their own money and help from the kind few who have donated so far.

The money isn't the issue really...they say that for right now...they're putting the website up as if nothing is wrong, but there may be quite a few changes...it really depends on negotiations between them and Dualstar. Now if they get to keep it online permanently then they will definitely need money for bandwidth costs.

More details are in the forum under Clean Talk I believe.

Someone one the Mam's Family message board of sitcomsonline, is uploading full episodes of Mama's Family. I tried to warn them it was illegal to upload full episodes of tv programs, but they ignored what I said and when and uploaded seaon 1 episode 4.

Here is what they wrote.

Download Mama's Family Episode 01x04
Hey everyone...

For those of you who want them on your computer, those of you who can't wake up at 6am, or those that just can't watch them on TV anymore. Here's your chance to download ALL the episodes of "Mama's Family" in order!

My video capture card isn't the greatest, but the quality is pretty decent. It took some trial and error, but as the seasons went on, the quality does get much better.

I will be uploading the next episode as soon as possible. My goal is to upload one at least every other day. HOWEVER! KEEP IN MIND! The server that is hosting these files will ONLY be hosting them for 7 days! Which means, 7 days from the time of this post, the link will no longer be valid.

If by some chance, you can't download the episode, or didn't have enough time, or whatever, e-mail me at Eroticdita92@hotmail.com. And when possible, I will re-upload the episode.

Once again, don't forget, each episode will ONLY be available for 7 days!!

I am trying to share something I enjoy with fellow fans, my intention is not a bad one. However, if anyone has a problem with me sharing these files, please let me know.

!!UPDATE!!
It was also called to my attention there IS A LIMIT on how many times a file can be downloaded!!!, so act quickly when the files are uploaded, and remember as I said: If by some chance, you can't download the episode, or didn't have enough time, or whatever, e-mail me at Eroticdita92@hotmail.com. And when possible, I will re-upload the episode.

All files are NTSC, and VCD Ready.

EPISODE 01x04

Originally aired:
Feb. 12, 1983

Title:
The Wedding (Part 2)

Description:
The day of the wedding is at hand, and Vint and Naomi are ready to tie the knot.While Eunice still wants to sing her solo,she first asks Vint who says she'll have to talk to Naomi about it. Mama then gives Vint his daddy's ring as a wedding present, problem is Eunice thinks it's her ring,because Carl always wanted her to have it.While Naomi is getting ready she shows Eunice the ring,saying it's something blue and she prepares to wear it around her neck.

Vint and Naomi say their vows and Eunice,who is already upset at Mama for giving her ring away and has had a few to many beers, prepares to sing her solo in front of the whole crowd.She starts yelling at Mama half way thru about the ring and Mama yells back and it turns into a free-for-all,with Eunice insulting everyone and eventually Ed has to carry Eunice out.

Later,Mama and Fran sit on the couch, and enjoy the peace and quiet that they now have. Vint (who decided to take the kids afterall), Naomi, and the kids have left for Arizona.But the peace doesn't last long cause just then, they walk back into the house, saying that the whole thing was a scam, and they lost all their money. They'll have to move back in with Mama again.

Download Link:
http://www.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...4ACFC261A749F0F

Screen Capture:

Here is the link to it.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111679

Actually, there are no definite rules as far as I am aware of regarding TV shows being put online. It's certainly questionable, but I haven't seen any definitive answers. Heck, FOX even encourage tape trading on their website for shows that aren't available on DVD.

When we're talking about DVD rips, that certainly is not allowed, but TV rips have always gone on, in fact, there's a tape trading forum on this message board.

Olsen-Twins.org removed the videos voluntarily themselves, they weren't told to.

Originally posted by tgc225
Actually, there are no definite rules as far as I am aware of regarding TV shows being put online. It's certainly questionable, but I haven't seen any definitive answers. Heck, FOX even encourage tape trading on their website for shows that aren't available on DVD.

When we're talking about DVD rips, that certainly is not allowed, but TV rips have always gone on, in fact, there's a tape trading forum on this message board.

Olsen-Twins.org removed the videos voluntarily themselves, they weren't told to.

I am going to quote something BrooklynGuy said.

We have recieved communication from Dualstar's lawyer's basically telling us to take the website offline and hand it over to them or else

You said they were never told to remove them they did it on their own. While BroklynGuy said they were told to.

Also I am going to hold you to where you said Fox encourages tape trading of tv shows that are not on dvd. I emailed them asking it they encouraged it.

Yes there is tape trading on this message board, that is different then uploading tv shows on the internet for people to download and save to dvd.

Why you think alot of peer to peer companies got introuble? They were letting people send out illegal material to others.

Here is something you should read.

FCC mulls digital 'flag' to sink TV pirates


U.S. regulators in coming weeks will adopt strict limits on sending digital television programs over the Internet to avoid the problems now plaguing the music industry, U.S. officials said on Tuesday.

The Federal Communications Commission will likely adopt rules that will allow programmers to attach a code to digital broadcasts that will in most cases bar consumers from sending copies of popular shows around the world, said the officials, who declined to be identified.

The approval, expected as early as next week, are intended as another step along the long road to higher-quality, crisper digital signals, which have been slow in coming because of worries about piracy, high-priced equipment and limited programming.

An agency spokeswoman declined to comment on when the five commissioners would vote on the issue.

Consumer advocates have warned that consumers will have to buy new DVD players if they want to play programs that have been recorded on machines that recognize the digital "flag." But agency officials stressed that that always happens when new technology hits the market.

"It will simply prevent consumers from illegal piracy, from mass distribution over the Internet, which is the problem with the music file sharing," Kenneth Ferree, head of the FCC's media bureau, said.

The music industry has been plagued over the last few years with consumers illegally sharing and copying songs over the Internet, which has led the recording industry to sue music downloaders for damages up to $150,000 per song.

Consumers will still be able to make unlimited copies of their favorite shows and watch them in various rooms of their homes, but they will not be able to send them over unsecured networks until protections are established, the officials said.

"Why should anyone in the world buy if it's on the Internet," said Andrew Setos, president of engineering at News Corp.'s Fox Entertainment Group.

Initially, the FCC is aiming for a relatively open process for approving equipment that will read encrypted shows, officials said, and the agency will likely retain some oversight along the way to help ensure a fair review of new technologies.

Programmers had wanted a role in approving television equipment to ensure that security features were robust enough. But some technology companies, such as Microsoft, had worried they would be shut out from developing new ways to deliver protected digital content.

IBM has been developing technology so that some day consumers will be able to transmit shows over secured networks, such as between their homes and offices.

Television-set makers hope to begin installing the necessary equipment for the broadcast flag in TVs going on sale next year.

"As a solution for addressing the single narrow problem of Internet redistribution, this is a pretty good solution," said Dave Arland, a spokesman for Thomson, which manufactures RCA television sets.

But consumer advocates warn that it would make obsolete 50 million DVD players already in Americans' homes.

"If a consumer records a program on a new Broadcast Flag equipped machine and then tries to take that program and play it on Grandma's older DVD player, it's just not going to work," said Chris Murray, legislative counsel for Consumers Union.


Exactly as I expected, they are going to try to prevent us from backing up/sharing TV shows and anything else transmitted digitally. Why would I want my DVD player to be obsolete overnight, along with millions of other consumers? Hollywood always seems to want everything their way, without a thought for the consumer. More backlash expected...
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http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184287

FCC Approves Internet Anti-Piracy Tool

WASHINGTON - The government on Tuesday approved an anti-piracy mechanism to make it harder for computer users to illegally distribute digital TV programs on the Internet.

In its order, the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) told makers of digital television receivers that by July 1, 2005, their models must recognize an electronic marker that broadcasters can embed in their programs to limit piracy.

As Internet connections get faster and broadcasters switch to much clearer digital TV, the movie and television industries are concerned that consumers will put high-quality copies of shows and films on the Web that others can download for free. This would reduce the broadcasters' ability to sell the shows for syndication or overseas.

The proliferation of music on the Internet has held down the sales of CDs, and the music industry has started to sue listeners who illegally distribute the songs online.

FCC (news - web sites) Chairman Michael Powell said his agency was taking "an important step toward preserving the viability of free over-the-air television."

The deadline would be in advance of the congressionally mandated goal of 2007 for all TV broadcasts to switch to a digital format, which uses computer language, from the current analog format, which uses radio signals sent as waves. After the switchover, consumers who don't subscribe to a cable or satellite service would need digital tuners, either inside a TV or in a set-top box.

FCC officials said the embedded electronic signal, known as a "broadcast flag," would not prevent consumers from using existing or new DVD or VCR machines to make copies of TV programs. But the signal is designed to make it more difficult for consumers to then transfer those copies to the Internet and make them available to potentially millions of others.

While all five commissioners supported the order, Jonathan Adelstein, one of two Democrats on the five-member panel, said the decision did not safeguard viewers' privacy.

"Improper use of the technologies could arguably allow such things as tracking personal information," Adelstein said. "The broadcast flag should be about protecting digital content, not about tracking Americans' viewing habits."

Broadcasters had strongly urged the FCC to approve the flag.

"Without it, high quality programming will migrate off of free television," said Edward O. Fritts, president of the National Association of Broadcasters.

But consumer groups said the electronic marker is not the solution to prevent illegal copying of TV programs.

"We would like to be talking about how to best protect over-the-air content rather than rush 1,000 miles an hour to approve a solution that isn't going to work with technology we haven't seen for a problem we don't yet have," said Chris Murray, legislative counsel for Consumers Union, the publisher of Consumer Reports magazine.
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http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=184287

And finally

Battle lines drawn in digital TV copy protection
WASHINGTON (AP) — Hollywood and Silicon Valley carried their battle over Internet piracy to Capitol Hill on Thursday, debating the need for technology to prevent the illegal trading of movies and television shows online.
The entertainment industry told lawmakers that without copy protection the threat of extensive piracy will force the industry to move its best programming to pay services such as cable and satellite TV.

"Over-the-air television as we know it today will be a thing of the past," said Fritz Attaway, an executive vice president with the Motion Picture Association of America. He testified before the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on the Internet.

The entertainment industry has proposed technology called a "broadcast flag," an electronic marker in digital programming that could thwart or limit copying or distribution of pirated broadcasts over the Internet. Many in the industry fear high-quality broadcasts could be sold online.

The Federal Communications Commission is studying whether to require the marker, but it is unclear when its review will be finished, said Kenneth Ferree, chief of the FCC's media bureau.

Congress has set a goal of December 2006 for TV broadcasters to switch from analog to digital signals, which offer more vivid pictures and crisper sound. The FCC is concerned the piracy issue could slow that transition.

Opponents of the broadcast flag say it won't prevent piracy, but will restrict consumers who want to make copies for personal use.

"The more we restrict how our customers can use our products, the more likely they are to be annoyed," said Ed Black, president of the Computer and Communications Industry Association. The association represents technology companies, including one that develops software used by people who share music files online.

Attaway used a laptop computer and a projector to show lawmakers excerpts from an episode of the television show 24, which his staff downloaded from the Internet the day before the hearing. He said the Internet allows for "effortless and costless worldwide distribution of copies."

Critics of the entertainment industry say downloading movies and television programs from the Internet is much more difficult.

It is easier and cheaper to record a movie on a VHS tape and send it through the mail than to record a digital broadcast and transmit it over the Internet, said Edward Felten, a computer science professor at Princeton University. Felten made his comments in a filing with the FCC.

Felten said digital piracy requires computer equipment that can contain the massive files used for high-quality video. Such files can take days to upload and download through file sharing networks and are too big to send by e-mail.

Attaway said it's only a matter of time before the process becomes easier.

"If you make the assumption that there will be no technological progress above and beyond the technology that exists today, I would agree with them," Attaway said. "But I don't think it's reasonable or even rational to make that assumption."


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/2003-03-07-digital-tv_x.htm

Oh if you want to take the chance and download tv shows off the internet go right ahead. Now when people want to do something they will make all the excuses they want to try and justify that it is okay for them to do.
If you get cuaght you got no one to blame but yourself.

We have recieved communication from Dualstar's lawyer's basically telling us to take the website offline and hand it over to them or else

That's just telling them to take the website down. As far as I know, Dan never revealed as to why they wanted it down, nor was any specific media or information named, as far as I know.


Also I am going to hold you to where you said Fox encourages tape trading of tv shows that are not on dvd. I emailed them asking it they encouraged it.

http://www.fox.com/community/askfox/

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8. Can I get tapes of FOX Network Primetime Shows sent to me?

ANSWER:
The FOX Network does not provide nor sell videos of any of shows, specials or movies that air on the Network.

Our recommendation is to ask co-workers, friends, family and neighbors for anyone who may have taped off-the-air the show you are looking for."
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Yes there is tape trading on this message board, that is different then uploading tv shows on the internet for people to download and save to dvd.

To be honest, I don't think there is much of a difference. With a VHS tape, you get a copy without commercials, make a duplicate, and then you can send out duplicates to as many people as possible. This is fundamentally the same with online trading, except that you're transferring your recording through a different medium.



Why you think alot of peer to peer companies got introuble? They were letting people send out illegal material to others.

Well, to be more correct, the bulk of lawsuits went to peer to peer traders and not to the file sharing program creaters. As far as I know, there have been no complaints from whoever has the rights to the show regarding TV rips being traded.

As for the broadcast flags, thanks for those interesting articles. I think it's more of a form of an encryption method to prevent people from trading shows rather than an enforcement of any kind of law. We'll see how that goes and if the law is presented in a more specific manner.

I didn t know this website before i read this message , you say that it was possible to download videos , that was episodes of full house?

CherryMoon: It was the www.olsen-twins.org but the owners have removed all of the first seven episodes from season one. And they've also removed all other full-length episodes such as "Two of a Kind."

One interesting note, the first seven season one episodes of "Full House" and full length "Two of a Kind" episodes, gone! Only all non-TV show video and audio clips from otorg.

Originally posted by BrooklynGuy78
One interesting note, the first seven season one episodes of "Full House" and full length "Two of a Kind" episodes, gone! Only all non-TV show video and audio clips from otorg.

I noticed that, too!