UNAIRED? I mean NBC knew that Redd Foxx had retured to the show so why would they include those 3 eps in season 4? That means viewers back in 1974 still had to go 3 weeks in a row without seeing Redd Foxx on NBC. Honestly, i don;t think these eps should have been included on the season 4 DVD. Damm I hate Grady-LOL

Come on now. Some od S&S funniest shows were when Redd was away. I know that we all love the show in it's purest form, with Redd at the helm, but Grady did a great job in his absence. In fact, I remember reading that some of Redd's demands were mitigated by the postive feedback they got from viewers about Grady, and the fact that the show maintained it's Neilsons without him. Grady cost him some bargaining power....at least on the demands the studio felt was outlandish.

Besides, would we have come to know Aunt Emma without the Grady S&S 3rd season shows being broadcast? "Once a Thief" and "A Little Extra Security" from the 4th are two VERY funny eps.
The whole Grady experience was a good one for me.


There's also the memorable commentary Grady makes at the end of the "security" episode about the Social security system...both funny, and horribly ironic. Check it out.

Originally posted by Manzerman
Come on now. Some od S&S funniest shows were when Redd was away. I know that we all love the show in it's purest form, with Redd at the helm, but Grady did a great job in his absence. In fact, I remember reading that some of Redd's demands were mitigated by the postive feedback they got from viewers about Grady, and the fact that the show maintained it's Neilsons without him. Grady cost him some bargaining power....at least on the demands the studio felt was outlandish.

Besides, would we have come to know Aunt Emma without the Grady S&S 3rd season shows being broadcast? "Once a Thief" and "A Little Extra Security" from the 4th are two VERY funny eps.
The whole Grady experience was a good one for me.


There's also the memorable commentary Grady makes at the end of the "security" episode about the Social security system...both funny, and horribly ironic. Check it out.


Grady was a Goofball and a idiot and i refused to watch any S&S eps without Fred.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Grady was a Goofball and a idiot and i refused to watch any S&S eps without Fred.

I think the idea WAS for him to portray a goofball and an idiot most of the time. But at the same time he was basically honest and good-natured, and a man with some kind of conscience....a perfect contrast to Fred, which made him a good side-kick.

Lamont was a "player hater".

Originally posted by Manzerman
I think the idea WAS for him to portray a goofball and an idiot most of the time. But at the same time he was basically honest and good-natured, and a man with some kind of conscience....a perfect contrast to Fred, which made him a good side-kick.

Lamont was a "player hater".


I just didn't understand why Lamont needed a babysitter at 32. When Fred left, rollo and julio could have been seen more. Julio and lamont on a double date, or rollo and Lamont selling junk together. Grady was not needed since Fred was in St.louis

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I just didn't understand why Lamont needed a babysitter at 32. When Fred left, rollo and julio could have been seen more. Julio and lamont on a double date, or rollo and Lamont selling junk together. Grady was not needed since Fred was in St.louis


As Grady made it plain, Fred did not trust Lamont to be left alone in his house. Yeah I know he's 32, but he lives in his Dad's house, has a penchant for partying with the ladies. has a morally questionable friend, named Rollo who he'll follow blindly into almost any hare-brained scheme, plus Lamont will open his dad's home to anybody, including newly released convicts while the man is away. Given the circumstances, I wouldn't leave him in my house alone either...(the big dummy!)

Despite the fact that some people today have a negative opinion of Whitman Mayo's Grady character, history itself gives us a totally different perspective. Viewers found him funny enough, as they kept tuning in and the show continued to prosper. In fact, the show offers some of it's funniest moments in Fred's absence. Many of those moments provided were by Grady, himself.

It's much easier to look back in retrospect, and compare what Fred brought to the show that Grady didn't, but if you were around back in the 70's (and, I was), you were glad when Fred got back from St. Louis, but I never once felt a reason to stop watching while he was gone. Just like everyone else, I laughed my a** off, every time, and looked forward to the next episode.

Originally posted by Manzerman
As Grady made it plain, Fred did not trust Lamont to be left alone in his house. Yeah I know he's 32, but he lives in his Dad's house, has a penchant for partying with the ladies. has a morally questionable friend, named Rollo who he'll follow blindly into almost any hare-brained scheme, plus Lamont will open his dad's home to anybody, including newly released convicts while the man is away. Given the circumstances, I wouldn't leave him in my house alone either...(the big dummy!)

Despite the fact that some people today have a negative opinion of Whitman Mayo's Grady character, history itself gives us a totally different perspective. Viewers found him funny enough, as they kept tuning in and the show continued to prosper. In fact, the show offers some of it's funniest moments in Fred's absence. Many of those moments provided were by Grady, himself.

It's much easier to look back in retrospect, and compare what Fred brought to the show that Grady didn't, but if you were around back in the 70's (and, I was), you were glad when Fred got back from St. Louis, but I never once felt a reason to stop watching while he was gone. Just like everyone else, I laughed my a** off, every time, and looked forward to the next episode.



During that time, were you worried what would happen to the show if Redd never returned?

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
During that time, were you worried what would happen to the show if Redd never returned?

First you have to realize that there was a minute there when nobody knew what was going on, outside of NBC anyway. So we just bought the story that he was in St. Louis.

I was in college at the time, and the best I remember was that there was some talk about it, but by the time anybody really got worked up about it, the dispute had been resolved, and they had come to terms. They had already taped all but a few shows to complete the 3rd season.

I don't think the show was ever in any real danger of being cancelled. At worst, they had a proven commodity...Lamont & Grady equalled ratings. So, while they held down the fort, I think that the negotiations would have just continued until they got it all worked out. This is evidenced by the continued Grady & Lanont tapings for season 4.

Originally posted by Manzerman
First you have to realize that there was a minute there when nobody knew what was going on, outside of NBC anyway. So we just bought the story that he was in St. Louis.

I was in college at the time, and the best I remember was that there was some talk about it, but by the time anybody really got worked up about it, the dispute had been resolved, and they had come to terms. They had already taped all but a few shows to complete the 3rd season.

I don't think the show was ever in any real danger of being cancelled. At worst, they had a proven commodity...Lamont & Grady equalled ratings. So, while they held down the fort, I think that the negotiations would have just continued until they got it all worked out. This is evidenced by the continued Grady & Lanont tapings for season 4.


Did you watch Grady's spinoff that premired in December of 1975 on NBC?

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Did you watch Grady's spinoff that premired in December of 1975 on NBC?


If it's the one where Fred drives up to see him, I know I've seen it before, but I don't recall if I saw it as a re-run or if I saw the actual season premier.

Originally posted by Manzerman
If it's the one where Fred drives up to see him, I know I've seen it before, but I don't recall if I saw it as a re-run or if I saw the actual season premier.


Yes you did see the season premeire. The Grady episode when Fred rides up to see him was the first episode of Grady. No Grady eps was ever in syndication except for the episode TV LAND showed 2 years ago.