See Florida was so DUMB in this episode. James FOUND the money, it wasn't like he stole the money. And you know they could have used the money for food. Florida wanted to stay poor.

Yeah that was stupid, but Florida was a "church" woman. That one was surely a no brainer! If had stole it that's one thing but since he found it hey finders keepers!

As JJ told him, "you shoulda returned that and kept the rest". Never understood that episode. And Florida. I probably would've called their house myself, :lol: :lol:

If the money was stolen, and James knew it, keeping it would make him just as immoral as the person who stole it. Wrong is wrong even if it helps you.

James' attitude in this episode is another inconsistency of the series. In another episode he was known as "honest James" for refusing to get into a shady business deal.

Originally posted by GeeBee
If the money was stolen, and James knew it, keeping it would make him just as immoral as the person who stole it. Wrong is wrong even if it helps you.

James' attitude in this episode is another inconsistency of the series. In another episode he was known as "honest James" for refusing to get into a shady business deal.


He didn't steal the money, he found the money. And i found nothing wrong with him keeping the money because of the financial situation thy were in.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
He didn't steal the money, he found the money. And i found nothing wrong with him keeping the money because of the financial situation thy were in.

Sorry, but the end doesn't justify the means. Keeping money that you know belongs to someone else is stealing.

It would be completely ignorant of James, if he decided to keep the money, and not report it (stolen or missing) to the authorties...

Originally posted by GeeBee
Sorry, but the end doesn't justify the means. Keeping money that you know belongs to someone else is stealing.


Like James said, that supermarket would have never missed that $2000 dollars. That $2000 to that market was like 10 cents to James

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Like James said, that supermarket would have never missed that $2000 dollars. That $2000 to that market was like 10 cents to James


That's irrelevant. The money belonged to the supermarket and its owners. It did not belong to James or his family.

Originally posted by GeeBee
That's irrelevant. The money belonged to the supermarket and its owners. It did not belong to James or his family.


Well what about that horrible reward he received after returning the money, $50 worth of free groceries-LOL They could have given him more than that.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Well what about that horrible reward he received after returning the money, $50 worth of free groceries-LOL They could have given him more than that.

It may have been unfair, but it doesn't justify keeping stolen money.

The even funny part was watching James on the news, looking nervous and impatient. Also, wasn't it a stupid question for Florida to ask James what he was doing home when he was on television. Didn't she know anything about taped programs? I ask again: Who were those writers?

Originally posted by nerrad
The even funny part was watching James on the news, looking nervous and impatient. Also, wasn't it a stupid question for Florida to ask James what he was doing home when he was on television. Didn't she know anything about taped programs? I ask again: Who were those writers?


Yeah that was a ******** question.

I just watched this episode last night and the only thing I could think of is that $27,000.00 was a lot of money in the late 70’s.

That must have been a hard choice under their condition, with James bouncing around with dead end jobs.

Very tempting……Like the rev. said “Perhaps”.

Originally posted by Yemana's Coffee
I just watched this episode last night and the only thing I could think of is that $27,000.00 was a lot of money in the late 70’s.

That must have been a hard choice under their condition, with James bouncing around with dead end jobs.

Very tempting……Like the rev. said “Perhaps”.


It wasn't the late 70's, it was 1974

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
It wasn't the late 70's, it was 1974


Well, mid 70's...lol

Still a lot of money..

If James had kept that money, he'd have never had the right to lecture his children about morality again.

Originally posted by GeeBee
If James had kept that money, he'd have never had the right to lecture his children about morality again.


What if he only took $500?-LOL

Imagine if Michael had seen some gang members run down the street and drop some stolen money. How do you think James would have reacted if Michael wanted to keep it? The hypocrite would have probably taken off his belt.

..except for JJ. He wanted to keep it. :cool:

Originally posted by nerrad
..except for JJ. He wanted to keep it. :cool:


All the more reason that James had a responsibility to be honest and set a good example.

The ONLY reason James kept the money is that he is a fictional character. On a fictional show, about a fictional family.

Anybody THAT destitute in real life would not have thought TWICE about keeping it. But on TV anything goes I suppose!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
The ONLY reason James kept the money is that he is a fictional character. On a fictional show, about a fictional family.

Anybody THAT destitute in real life would not have thought TWICE about keeping it. But on TV anything goes I suppose!!

Believe it or not, there are poor people who could be honest in such a situation.

Nah. Not with that strife!!!..Maybe people with the means. Not poor people in a stinky ghetto.

That was not the only time they could have got out anyway. How many golden opportunities can one family have?? Like I said. HOLLYWOOD!!

The biggest mistake people make is assuming that everyone else has their same values or lack thereof.

Originally posted by GeeBee
The biggest mistake people make is assuming that everyone else has their same values or lack thereof.

The biggest mistake people make in general is ASSUMING period!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
The biggest mistake people make in general is ASSUMING period!!


So stop assuming that every poor person in the world is a crook.

Originally posted by GeeBee
So stop assuming that every poor person in the world is a crook.

No you are assuming that is what I am saying. So don't assume dear!!

THE ACT OF stealing would make them crooks dear. Nice spin job though. I am not sure if every poor family in the world has had a ton of money fall at their feet.

I never suggested at all that all poor people are dishonest. I DID suggest that is difficult to believe that ANYBODY in that situation that was destitute would turn in the money. And that is FACT!!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
No you are assuming that is what I am saying. So don't assume dear!!

THE ACT OF stealing would make them crooks dear. Nice spin job though. I am not sure if every poor family in the world has had a ton of money fall at their feet.

I never suggested at all that all poor people are dishonest. I DID suggest that is difficult to believe that ANYBODY in that situation that was destitute would turn in the money. And that is FACT!!!


You are wrong.

Sorry dear. You AS USUAL are wrong. I am right!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Sorry dear. You AS USUAL are wrong. I am right!!


Get a life, boy.

Originally posted by GeeBee
Get a life, boy.

Ho Hum. You give up too easily dear!!

If it were me in that situation, I'd turn the money over to the cops. I couldn't live with myself if I had kept it.

I would hope most people would..

But considering the circumstances. I have a feeling you have no Idea what it is like to be destitute. There are desperate people in the ghetto...Not saying they are dishonest. but put in that situation where they can take care of their families after being spit on their whole lives it would be hard to think ANYBODY would give it back.

Luckily I have never been destitute in my life. But trying to put myself in THAT particular situation where it would change my life would be hard to pass up...And most definitely not something somebody would do without at least thinking twice about it.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
I would hope most people would..

But considering the circumstances. I have a feeling you have no Idea what it is like to be destitute. There are desperate people in the ghetto...Not saying they are dishonest. but put in that situation where they can take care of their families after being spit on their whole lives it would be hard to think ANYBODY would give it back.

Luckily I have never been destitute in my life. But trying to put myself in THAT particular situation where it would change my life would be hard to pass up...And most definitely not something somebody would do without at least thinking twice about it.

That's a good point. :)

Heck, i'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be tempted to keep it and use it to feed and provide clothing for my family.

Hopefully, none of us will ever have to be in that situation.
It really make you stop and think though.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Ho Hum. You give up too easily dear!!

Grow up, son.

Unpopular opinion here, but I heartily agreed with James....as a child of the projects in the 70's, me, my mother and siblings experienced many situations which included going without food and threats of eviction.

Trust me, when you've got kids to feed and you're one snap away from being thrown out in the streets, you are not thinking about what's right or what's wrong at that time.

Originally posted by Sweetbabygirl
Unpopular opinion here, but I heartily agreed with James....as a child of the projects in the 70's, me, my mother and siblings experienced many situations which included going without food and threats of eviction.

Trust me, when you've got kids to feed and you're one snap away from being thrown out in the streets, you are not thinking about what's right or what's wrong at that time.


I agree with that.

Brilliant post. you pretty much confirmed what I really believed. You have to be selfish in a sense and do what is best for your family. If you are desperately trying to get by and this money is in your lap. You can almost make the case that you are irresponsible for returning it. Especially when you dont know where your next meal is coming from. and a step away from a homeless shelter.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
I would hope most people would..

But considering the circumstances. I have a feeling you have no Idea what it is like to be destitute. There are desperate people in the ghetto...Not saying they are dishonest. but put in that situation where they can take care of their families after being spit on their whole lives it would be hard to think ANYBODY would give it back.

Luckily I have never been destitute in my life. But trying to put myself in THAT particular situation where it would change my life would be hard to pass up...And most definitely not something somebody would do without at least thinking twice about it.

No, I know that I would never do something like that no matter how difficult things got because I have a firm sense of what's right and wrong, as I believe most people do. If you think that everyone would be tempted to keep stolen money, you need to take a good look at your own sense of morality because you're projecting it onto everyone else. Just because you're capable of theft does not mean everyone is.

Originally posted by Sweetbabygirl
Unpopular opinion here, but I heartily agreed with James....as a child of the projects in the 70's, me, my mother and siblings experienced many situations which included going without food and threats of eviction.

Trust me, when you've got kids to feed and you're one snap away from being thrown out in the streets, you are not thinking about what's right or what's wrong at that time.


You've got it backwards, when you have children it is imperative that you stick to your values of what's right and wrong to set an example for them. If they see you stealing for survival, they could grow up to think that crime is the only way to survive.

God knows that the system is unfair and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, but America is still not a third world nation. There are public and private resources that you can turn to in times of an emergency. Yes, it can be embarrassing and difficult, but not half as shameful as taking what is not yours.

Once again, look at what the writers of Good Times were really trying to say. The Evans never went through with anything dishonest, but they still survived. It can happen in real life too. Where there's a will there's an honest way.

Originally posted by GeeBee
You've got it backwards, when you have children it is imperative that you stick to your values of what's right and wrong to set an example for them. If they see you stealing for survival, they could grow up to think that crime is the only way to survive.

God knows that the system is unfair and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, but America is still not a third world nation. There are public and private resources that you can turn to in times of an emergency. Yes, it can be embarrassing and difficult, but not half as shameful as taking what is not yours.

Once again, look at what the writers of Good Times were really trying to say. The Evans never went through with anything dishonest, but they still survived. It can happen in real life too. Where there's a will there's an honest way.

You know, I love it when those who have never experienced true poverty get on their soapbox and denounce those who have the nerve to do whatever they need to in order to survive. For starters, those "public and private resources that you can turn to in times of an emergency" does not always apply to poor people, especially if they make too much money. In other words, despite an extremely low paying job, my mother still made too much money for welfare, food stamps, etc. Although she never stole, you'd better believe that she busted her butt anyway she could in order for us to survive, and for that she'll always have my fierce love and devotion.

That said, if I were in such a dire situation and as long as no one knew about the missing $2,000 and there was no way that it could ever be traced, damned skippy I'd pocket it to take care of my family, and without regrets. As for kids growing up thinking that crime is the only way to survive, a good chunk of the ones I grew up with made it out okay, despite what they have experienced growing up in the ghetto, right or wrong.

Bottom line, NO ONE is perfect (Gasp! Not even you, toots!!), so get off your high-horse and TRY to be less judgemental....when you can dump solid gold out of your butt and turn water into wine, then I shall shut my mouth and accept the "Thieving Heathen" bullshizzle that you are so anxious to bestow on those who happen to disagree with you.

Originally posted by Sweetbabygirl
You know, I love it when those who have never experienced true poverty get on their soapbox and denounce those who have the nerve to do whatever they need to in order to survive. For starters, those "public and private resources that you can turn to in times of an emergency" does not always apply to poor people, especially if they make too much money. In other words, despite an extremely low paying job, my mother still made too much money for welfare, food stamps, etc. Although she never stole, you'd better believe that she busted her butt anyway she could in order for us to survive, and for that she'll always have my fierce love and devotion.

That said, if I were in such a dire situation and as long as no one knew about the missing $2,000 and there was no way that it could ever be traced, damned skippy I'd pocket it to take care of my family, and without regrets. As for kids growing up thinking that crime is the only way to survive, a good chunk of the ones I grew up with made it out okay, despite what they have experienced growing up in the ghetto, right or wrong.

Bottom line, NO ONE is perfect (Gasp! Not even you, toots!!), so get off your high-horse and TRY to be less judgemental....when you can dump solid gold out of your butt and turn water into wine, then I shall shut my mouth and accept the "Thieving Heathen" bullshizzle that you are so anxious to bestow on those who happen to disagree with you.


For one thing, honey, you don't know if I've ever been truly poor or not, so don't ass-u-me. I'll be the first to admit that those public and private agencies are not perfect, but they can keep you from starvation. The bottom line is that you're trying to defend the indefensible, namely stealing. Stealing is wrong, period. All of the double talk, rationalizing, and spin will never change the fact that you can't have what was never yours.

Originally posted by GeeBee
For one thing, honey, you don't know if I've ever been truly poor or not, so don't ass-u-me. I'll be the first to admit that those public and private agencies are not perfect, but they can keep you from starvation. The bottom line is that you're trying to defend the indefensible, namely stealing. Stealing is wrong, period. All of the double talk, rationalizing, and spin will never change the fact that you can't have what was never yours.
Wow, you spelled assume correctly, that's great....what shall you do for an encore? :rolleyes:

Believe it or not, I truly get what you have been saying in this post; my problem is your saintly attitude....chile please, we all have some type of skeletons in our closets, let's not make ourselves to be higher than God, okay?

Originally posted by Sweetbabygirl
Wow, you spelled assume correctly, that's great....what shall you do for an encore? :rolleyes:

Believe it or not, I truly get what you have been saying in this post; my problem is your saintly attitude....chile please, we all have some type of skeletons in our closets, let's not make ourselves to be higher than God, okay?

Since when is opposition to theft a "holier than thou" attitude? Just about every society, religion, and philosophy in the world has rules against stealing other people's property. I think it's a pretty basic value and you don't have to be a saint to believe in it.

Originally posted by GeeBee
Since when is opposition to theft a "holier than thou" attitude? Just about every society, religion, and philosophy in the world has rules against stealing other people's property. I think it's a pretty basic value and you don't have to be a saint to believe in it.

I'm not saying that opposition to theft is a "holier than thou" attitude....what I am saying is that your responses to those who have differing opinions on this particular subject did come across as being extremely judgemental.

Let's just agree to disagree on this subject, shall we? Thanks!!

:wave:

Forget it. GeeBee has been watching too many shows like GOOD TIMES and dreams of a UTOPIA that just doesn't exist.


She doesn't get the point that these are NORMAL LAW ABIDING PEOPLE that would never thing to break the law. But have something go there way.

If you want to use the TV show you can say Florida prayed every day for the welfare of her kids. and god saw fit to have James find the money that a corporate outfit could have simply filed an insurance claim on.

GeeBee I am not saying you would return it. I don't know your circumstances (As far as I am concerned anybody who is destitute does not have money to buy a computer anyway)...But it is easy to say MATTER OF FACT you wouldn't think twice about returning it. I just don't believe you. NOW I AM ONLY SAYING THAT if you were in that desperate situation.

In the situation I am in I would give it back. But I would most certainly think twice if I had my kids welfare at stake.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Forget it. GeeBee has been watching too many shows like GOOD TIMES and dreams of a UTOPIA that just doesn't exist.


She doesn't get the point that these are NORMAL LAW ABIDING PEOPLE that would never thing to break the law. But have something go there way.

If you want to use the TV show you can say Florida prayed every day for the welfare of her kids. and god saw fit to have James find the money that a corporate outfit could have simply filed an insurance claim on.

GeeBee I am not saying you would return it. I don't know your circumstances (As far as I am concerned anybody who is destitute does not have money to buy a computer anyway)...But it is easy to say MATTER OF FACT you wouldn't think twice about returning it. I just don't believe you. NOW I AM ONLY SAYING THAT if you were in that desperate situation.

In the situation I am in I would give it back. But I would most certainly think twice if I had my kids welfare at stake.

I still say it's not utopian idealism; I'd be more inclined to call it mainstream decency.

It's amazing just how many assumptions are being made on here. Just because someone has a computer does not mean that they weren't once poor and worked their way out of it (honestly). For that matter, just because someone is on a computer does not mean it isn't something being used at a friend's house or a library. Putting two and two together should not equal five, only four.

Yes, if I was desperate, I would try every legitimate means at my disposal, but stealing would not be on the table anymore than murder, kidnapping, blackmail, or any other crime.

And please, if someone does make a choice to steal something, they should take responsibility for it, and not say that it was God's answer to a prayer.

It's funny that people are complaining about being "too preachy", but they're on a board for one of the peachiest comedy shows that was ever created. Sometimes the messages on Good Times did seem a bit too heavy handed, I will admit, but not stealing is pretty much a universal value.

HEY It is just a convo here dear. You are preachy yourself. with your UNREALIST montra!!

The most
intolerant people I know are those who claim to fight for everyone else's
tolerance.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
HEY It is just a convo here dear. You are preachy yourself. with your UNREALIST montra!!

The most
intolerant people I know are those who claim to fight for everyone else's
tolerance.


It's just a simple case of honesty and decency vs. dishonesty and shame.

Originally posted by GeeBee
It's just a simple case of honesty and decency vs. dishonesty and shame.

Somehow there to me there is no shame in getting my family out of harms way in a dirty stinky ghetto if given the opportunity.

It is a tv show anyway but I will never understand how people so poor would have such big families. When you have kids you are suppose to be able to take care of them..SOmehow a dangerous stinky ghetto is not giving them the best!!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Somehow there to me there is no shame in getting my family out of harms way in a dirty stinky ghetto if given the opportunity.




Stealing is not an opportunity. Are you sure you don't own a $3 bill?

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail




It is a tv show anyway but I will never understand how people so poor would have such big families. When you have kids you are suppose to be able to take care of them..SOmehow a dangerous stinky ghetto is not giving them the best!!!


And yet, you seem to feel that they were entitled to take money that the owner of a grocery store earned, not by taxes or social programs, but through outright theft.

Hold it dog breath. I never said once they were entitled to it.

It was not money THEY stole. It was found money that somebody ELSE stole!!


You weight the responsibility you have to your own family and a corporate store... Like I said. The situation Im in right now. I owuld most certainly return it. However. Living in the filth of the projects. You would have to be NUTS (not neccesarily dishonest ) not to.

My loyalties are to my family before the grocer.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Hold it dog breath. I never said once they were entitled to it.

It was not money THEY stole. It was found money that somebody ELSE stole!!


You weight the responsibility you have to your own family and a corporate store... Like I said. The situation Im in right now. I owuld most certainly return it. However. Living in the filth of the projects. You would have to be NUTS (not neccesarily dishonest ) not to.

My loyalties are to my family before the grocer.

Wrong is wrong even if it helps you. A responsibility to a family does not include the option of stealing (And yes, deliberately keeping money that you know is stolen is the same as stealing it outright. Morality 101). A responsibility to a family means employing every legitimate means that is available such as harder work, assistance from friends and family, along with many public and private charities that are available. It does not mean taking another man's earnings. There is always a way to survive in America without resorting to crime.

If James really thought his family would benefit from the money he should have just not told them that it was part of the cash he found.

BTW: I just remembered that Willona wanted James to keep money.-LOL

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
If James really thought his family would benefit from the money he should have just not told them that it was part of the cash he found.




Sure, if you're not going to honest with your community, no point in being honest with your family either.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer



BTW: I just remembered that Willona wanted James to keep money.-LOL

Well, that makes a world of difference. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by GeeBee
Sure, if you're not going to honest with your community, no point in being honest with your family either.



Look if he had kept the money most of it was going back to the Super Market anyway when thy went food shopping. So The Market was not going to lose anything. So you see the market would have gotten the money back-LOL

Originally posted by GeeBee
Well, that makes a world of difference. :rolleyes:


Well she was able to see how Borgon's Market was ripping POOR people off

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Look if he had kept the money most of it was going back to the Super Market anyway when thy went food shopping. So The Market was not going to lose anything. So you see the market would have gotten the money back-LOL

I guess illogic and dishonesty often do go hand and hand. But, I know you're just joking about that one. :)

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Well she was able to see how Borgon's Market was ripping POOR people off


Which means she was right about everything.

Originally posted by GeeBee
Which means she was right about everything.


Well Borgon's Market was stealing money from low income people but I guess that was ok.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Well Borgon's Market was stealing money from low income people but I guess that was ok.

According to your way of thinking, it might be. Maybe the owner started off as a poor man who stole from the wealthy and just reversed it when he got to the top. If you make up your own rules as you go along, there's never a clear stopping point.

Didn't they all get sick from some bad meat bought at that store?

YOu would think they would give James a job for coming forward. But lets face it.

James Keeps the Money there is no Good Times.

James gave the money back and listened to Florida and gave in all the time... And he wound up DEAD!!. Or maybe he drove into a tree on purpose. If Iwoke up to Florida every morning I would have looked all over the house for that pistol Michael hid and ATE IT!!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Didn't they all get sick from some bad meat bought at that store?

YOu would think they would give James a job for coming forward. But lets face it.

James Keeps the Money there is no Good Times.

James gave the money back and listened to Florida and gave in all the time... And he wound up DEAD!!. Or maybe he drove into a tree on purpose. If Iwoke up to Florida every morning I would have looked all over the house for that pistol Michael hid and ATE IT!!!




LOL LOL LOL LOLL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LMAO!!!!!!!!!!-LMAO

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
If Iwoke up to Florida every morning I would have looked all over the house for that pistol Michael hid and ATE IT!!!

:lol:, see, that's not even right!!

I personally thought that Esther Rolle was nice looking in her own way, and she had the most beautiful voice.

Originally posted by Sweetbabygirl
:lol:, see, that's not even right!!

I personally thought that Esther Rolle was nice looking in her own way, and she had the most beautiful voice.


She wasn't the best looking woman but she a GREAT ACTRESS!!!!!!

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
Didn't they all get sick from some bad meat bought at that store?

YOu would think they would give James a job for coming forward. But lets face it.

James Keeps the Money there is no Good Times.

James gave the money back and listened to Florida and gave in all the time... And he wound up DEAD!!. Or maybe he drove into a tree on purpose. If Iwoke up to Florida every morning I would have looked all over the house for that pistol Michael hid and ATE IT!!!


Weird.

Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
She wasn't the best looking woman but she a GREAT ACTRESS!!!!!!

Great is pushing it. I respected her as an actor though. However as her life wound down and she became a spokesperson for some bogus psychic line it kind of ruined her credibility to me.

That said Thelma can drink from my cup anytime!!

I remember being on, i think, jumptheshark.com when I first took notice. Someone said, to the effect, "is it me of is esther rolle the ugliest woman on sitcom television history... they went on to say something like, "my God. James was a good looking guy. Couldn't he found something better"? I'd admit cracking up when I first read it. I never used to look at it like that. Buttttt, there was some truth to it.:) Great actress though!!!!

James couldn't do better. He was broke. Broke guys have ugly wives.

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
James couldn't do better. He was broke. Broke guys have ugly wives. Damn,that's pretty harsh:lol: (my ol man is broke,but I ain't ugly:D )

Originally posted by JREwingBlackmail
James couldn't do better. He was broke. Broke guys have ugly wives.


Bigot.

Originally posted by GeeBigot
Bigot. b


:rolleyes:

Originally posted by BabyJohn
b


:rolleyes:


:lol:

Originally posted by GeeBee
:lol:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?s=&postid=183310

If that was supposed to be a picture, John John, it's not showing up. Sorry.

It was. Just didn't want to stoop to your level bigot.

Originally posted by BabyJohn
It was. Just didn't want to stoop to your level bigot.

I'm proud of you.

Just finishing watching "The Windfall" and I just noticed something; when James offered the $$ to the Reverend, it seemed like Florida didn't have a problem with that option....in fact, if James had insisted, I doubt Reverend Gordon would have said no to taking it.

...to a known gambler who would've taken anything. Actually he did, LOL. I guess James was trying to be smart, knowing that his friend wouldn't have the heart to take them. Well, he lost. Ever notice the look James gave Florida after Ernie left.:D As if to say, "damn baby, I'm sorry". I laugh when I see that. Check it out.

Disregard that last post by me. I forgot where I was. I thought I was starting a thread with that title about the 'shakers. I will now.

Originally posted by GeeBee
Sorry, but the end doesn't justify the means. Keeping money that you know belongs to someone else is stealing.

I agree. Boy it would be hard for me to try and give it back but I would do the right thing plus I would feel bad for the longest time if I knew it belonged to someone else.