Hillay may not be the teen queen because Lindsay Lohan now being called the teen queen because of huge hit Mean Girls

When was she ever the teen queen. A lot of people may like her(excluding me) but saying shes the teen queen is a matter of opinion. Which will never get my blessing.

I read in a magizine that her and lindsay have tension between them. It also said hilary would throw fits and stuff when she was around. And when I read that I was just thinking. BRAT

I think lindsay's better anyway, according to what I read in that magazine hilary is just a spoiled star who thinks she deserves the spotlight, and is better than everyone else. And puts on a fake image around her fans, and then acts a certain bratty way when she doesnt get what she wants.

It's more than just Lindsay Lohan moving in on her...

lilb-boy3, for once I actually agree with you. :eek:


I never really considered Duff as the teen queen either. I think Lindsay deserves that spot right now, since she has had some hits. I have also enjoyed Lohan's performances more than Hilary's.

Wow, to be truthfull I thought you were just going to say something I wouldnt have liked.


I also agree that Lindsay should get it. Raven is OK, but shes not doing any big screen productions yet, so shes out.

Lindsay has done some big hits with the mean girls, and the drama queen and even freaky friday, so the plaque should go to her, or at least the olsens, anybody but hilary. I cant stand her.

I don't care if she's actually known as the "teen queen" or not. That doesnt really matter to me, because she's the teen queen in MY eyes.

:wave: Thats good, becasue she's a snobbish ***** in my eyes.

I think is sould be Lindsay she the one right now that as the hit movies unless Hillary if Cinderalla is a huge hit then Hillay going to be a teen queen but the olsens failed to become the teen queens after what happen to there movie

What happened?:confused:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
:wave: Thats good, becasue she's a snobbish ***** in my eyes. And...I care? :lol:

No, because I never said you should care. I just said what I thought just like you did. Do you think I care about your comment.:lol:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
No, because I never said you should care. I just said what I thought just like you did. Do you think I care about your comment.:lol:

I heard about that on the news. Pretty weird. I didnt think any of that was true.

Got a link?

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
I heard about that on the news. Pretty weird. I didnt think any of that was true.

Got a link?



OK, I dont know what you are talking about now. I think you need to lay off of Hilary for awhile, she may be causing you to become illusional.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
OK, I dont know what you are talking about now. I think you need to lay off of Hilary for awhile, she may be causing you to become illusional. Nah, just messin with your mind. :lol:

It'll be OK.

Just a question, but what is your problem with Hilary Duff?

Originally posted by Fez619
Just a question, but what is your problem with Hilary Duff?


She's a fake snobbish B****, and she LOOKS as though she thinks she's all that, and deserves every bit of the money she gets. She also left disney because she felt she wasnt getting paid enuff , I think, and that just show thats she's a self centered snob. She probably thought, hey you know what, Im a star now, you guys need to get lost. Because she's a b****

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
She's a fake snobbish B****, and she LOOKS as though she thinks she's all that, and deserves every bit of the money she gets.
That's really quite stupid...You're juding her on that by the way she LOOKS? Thats pretty much just assuming....

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
She also left disney because she felt she wasnt getting paid enuff , I think, and that just show thats she's a self centered snob. She probably thought, hey you know what, Im a star now, you guys need to get lost. Because she's a b****

She left Lizzie McGuire because it had reached its 65 episode limit, and Disney wouldnt let it go on anymore, I'm not sure about her leaving Disney, but you gotta move on sometime. She's making good money in the music industry, and is doing alot of Movies...So she's making good money, obviously she just moved on to bigger and better things for her...It's not like shes obligated to stay with Disney all her life.

I'm not very sure about this, but I think that there were money issues, and they had to do with her mom wanting her to make more money. NOT sure about that. But I don't think Hilary wanted more money, its possible though.

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
That's really quite stupid...You're juding her on that by the way she LOOKS? Thats pretty much just assuming....



She left Lizzie McGuire because it had reached its 65 episode limit, and Disney wouldnt let it go on anymore, I'm not sure about her leaving Disney, but you gotta move on sometime. She's making good money in the music industry, and is doing alot of Movies...So she's making good money, obviously she just moved on to bigger and better things for her...It's not like shes obligated to stay with Disney all her life.

I'm not very sure about this, but I think that there were money issues, and they had to do with her mom wanting her to make more money. NOT sure about that. But I don't think Hilary wanted more money, its possible though.


Hey, all this is my opinion and thats not going to change. Ive seen a whole bunch of her shows(back before I hated her) a lot of her interviews, and performances, and she comes off as a B**** to me.

And thats not what I heard about her leaving disney. And no duh, I knew she was going to leave one day. Ive also read like a couple of stuff in the magazine about how bratty she is. And I am not judging her by the way she looks, I said looks, because if I would have said it differently you would have been like, "You dont Know her." Thats why I said looks.
I thought you said you didnt care what I thought. If you dont than why did you reply to my comment.
And she is the queen of fakeness. To me:eek:

Yeah...I heard something how Disney wanted to keep the Lizzie McGuire series going, or it might of been another movie. But, she didn't want to do it because they weren't offering enough money.
But, yeah it could be her mom talking.

Originally posted by Fez619
Yeah...I heard something how Disney wanted to keep the Lizzie McGuire series going, or it might of been another movie. But, she didn't want to do it because they weren't offering enough money.
But, yeah it could be her mom talking.


Thats exactly what I heard.


*smiles* Fez, your becoming alright in my book now. lol

Originally posted by Fez619
Yeah...I heard something how Disney wanted to keep the Lizzie McGuire series going, or it might of been another movie. But, she didn't want to do it because they weren't offering enough money.Yeah. I read that too somewhere, I also read money may not have been the full reason why they didnt do it, but thats what I thought.

Originally posted by Fez619
But, yeah it could be her mom talking.

That's what I heard.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Hey, all this is my opinion and thats not going to change. Ive seen a whole bunch of her shows(back before I hated her) a lot of her interviews, and performances, and she comes off as a B**** to me.

Not trying to change your opinion, just voicing my own.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Ive also read like a couple of stuff in the magazine about how bratty she is.

Maybe she has done a few "Bratty" things...I dunno, or even really care. Its not like she's perfect. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes, can't believe everything you read, either.

I don't know her personally, but she doesnt seem like that much of a brat. Although I don't doubt she HAS done bratty things before, nobody is perfect.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
And I am not judging her by the way she looks, I said looks, because if I would have said it differently you would have been like, "You dont Know her." Thats why I said looks.

I don't know her either. So that doesnt really matter.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I thought you said you didnt care what I thought. If you dont than why did you reply to my comment.

I dont care what you think. I'm just giving my opinions and views on what you have to say. I'm a fan of the show/Hilary, so I am going to try and defend her in areas where I can. This IS a board for the fans anyway, so you really shouldnt be here in the first place.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
And she is the queen of fakeness. To me:eek:

I can see where you're coming from...But to be truthful I think when people say that its really exaggerating quite a bit.

It Ok, that you want to defend her, but its just that this thread is about who should be the teen queen. And I think that it shouldnt be her.

Also, I know I cant believe everything I read, but seeing how she acts, that bratty cratique just fits so perfectly in her catagory to me.

I know nobody's perfect and that everyone makes mistakes, esp. Someone whos in the public eye as much as she is.

But, I just dont like her at all. I really dont have big good reasons why, its just that I dont.

I really dont think shes a good actress, and I know she isnt a good singer at all. And I just think giving her all that, and then the way she acts, almost like she deserves it. She doesnt look like she acts humble at all, when shes recieves her praise, she just looks like she walks away thinking shes all that. But like you said I really dont know her, and that just may be the way she carries herself, because every celebrity/person, carries themselves much differently.

Somethings I really dont like about the show, is that its just so fake. I mean, come on. Look, how on earth is one teen going to be able to go out with frankie Muniz and have him like you back, then before all that, kiss Aaron carter, and even be in his music video. Be able to become a model, and plus much more. And the way she looked when she was getting all that, she didnt look humbled at all, she looked as though she deserved it all.

But this all my opinion, and I apoligze if it was to long.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
It Ok, that you want to defend her, but its just that this thread is about who should be the teen queen. And I think that it shouldnt be her.

Also, I know I cant believe everything I read, but seeing how she acts, that bratty cratique just fits so perfectly in her catagory to me.

I know nobody's perfect and that everyone makes mistakes, esp. Someone whos in the public eye as much as she is.

But, I just dont like her at all. I really dont have big good reasons why, its just that I dont.

I really dont think shes a good actress, and I know she isnt a good singer at all. And I just think giving her all that, and then the way she acts, almost like she deserves it. She doesnt look like she acts humble at all, when shes recieves her praise, she just looks like she walks away thinking shes all that. But like you said I really dont know her, and that just may be the way she carries herself, because every celebrity/person, carries themselves much differently.

Somethings I really dont like about the show, is that its just so fake. I mean, come on. Look, how on earth is one teen going to be able to go out with frankie Muniz and have him like you back, then before all that, kiss Aaron carter, and even be in his music video. Be able to become a model, and plus much more. And the way she looked when she was getting all that, she didnt look humbled at all, she looked as though she deserved it all.

But this all my opinion, and I apoligze if it was to long.

Nah, that's ok. Everybody thinks differently. We just have totally different opinions and views on this subject.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Hey, all this is my opinion and thats not going to change. Ive seen a whole bunch of her shows(back before I hated her) a lot of her interviews, and performances, and she comes off as a B**** to me.

And thats not what I heard about her leaving disney. And no duh, I knew she was going to leave one day. Ive also read like a couple of stuff in the magazine about how bratty she is. And I am not judging her by the way she looks, I said looks, because if I would have said it differently you would have been like, "You dont Know her." Thats why I said looks.
I thought you said you didnt care what I thought. If you dont than why did you reply to my comment.
And she is the queen of fakeness. To me:eek:

Oh wow you never quit do you????? You stir up sh*t at every board you go to. Is there anyone or any show that you do like? :rolleyes:

Disney cancelled the show after 65 episodes, that's becoming a common practice, they did it with Even Stevens too.

You don't know Hilary personally, so who cares what she looks like? You probably aren't so hot looking yourself, It seems to me the ones who bash someone's looks are the ones who find themselves to be less than adequate

:rolleyes: :grr:

Originally posted by Topanga
Oh wow you never quit do you????? You stir up sh*t at every board you go to. Is there anyone or any show that you do like? :rolleyes:

Disney cancelled the show after 65 episodes, that's becoming a common practice, they did it with Even Stevens too.

You don't know Hilary personally, so who cares what she looks like? You probably aren't so hot looking yourself, It seems to me the ones who bash someone's looks are the ones who find themselves to be less than adequate

:rolleyes: :grr:


You came here just to say all that. You're ignorant. You just stirrred up **** yourself, by opening up the debate again. If you read my last post, you would have noticed I said it in a nicer way than before. And I dont cause trouble, i state my opinions. That is why there are message boards.

And heres a question for you, why would you quote something that I said that came off a little rude, than quote my last statement which came out much nicer than the other one. It looks like Im not the one trying to stir up trouble. If you werent trying to stir up trouble than you would have left this alone, because this thread is REAL old, and it hasnt been responded on until now. you knew I was going to reply back, and you probably was hoping it would be ignorant so you could ban me, or edit my post.

And you are right, I dont know Hilary personally. Like I said in my last post, I dont know her. But the way she acts in her interviews and stuff, I just dont like. Whats wrong with that. And I dont diss her because Im insecure about what I look like. You havent seen me, so you might as well shutup there. But, if I were to judge you than, by what you just said you probably aint to far from ugly yourself. And heres a dose of your own medicine.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And what I heard about them wanting to make more episodes. Than that means they werent going to cancel the show after 65 episodes. If they were paying her to make more, than the show would have kept on going. Plus Even stevens wasnt as popular as Lizzie Mcguire. One movie came out in theaters, the other came out only on disney channel. Although I hated both shows, Lizzie Mcguire was liked more(excluding me).

Well, it looks like raven has a little more episodes than Lizzie. Probably because her show is much better. All i say is go raven, looks like her show is going places.

THATS RIGHT!!!!!!! TSR ROCKS!!!!!!!!! WAHOOOO!!!!!!:lol:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Well, it looks like raven has a little more episodes than Lizzie. Probably because her show is much better. All i say is go raven, looks like her show is going places. Wait...You're saying TSR has had more than 65 episodes? :confused: Somehow I doubt that...

Lizzie is better in my opinion, and I don't think TSR will ever get the amount popularity Lizzie McGuire did. It was a great show alot of people liked.

Just my opinion.

well, Lizzie McGuire may be more popular than TSR to some people, but that doesnt mean that LM is a better show!

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
Wait...You're saying TSR has had more than 65 episodes? :confused: Somehow I doubt that...

Lizzie is better in my opinion, and I don't think TSR will ever get the amount popularity Lizzie McGuire did. It was a great show alot of people liked.

Just my opinion.


Well, it may not have had that many, but it seems like they have a whole bunch. I mean, they probably already have reached there limit, but I doubt disney is going to kick them to the curve.


I think that TSR is so much better than Lizzie. It may not be where many people can actually relate to, but compared to Lizzie its more realistic.

Another reason why TSR probably will last longer is because Raven has much more talent than Hilary duff. Shes a much better actress, and shes a much better singer. And her show is actually funny not phony.

Now this, is just my opinion.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Well, it may not have had that many, but it seems like they have a whole bunch. I mean, they probably already have reached there limit, but I doubt disney is going to kick them to the curve

I looked it up and its only at 30 or 40 something. If it gets to 65, I can almost guarantee that it will be cancelled unless theres a miracle. Even Lizzie was cancelled after 65 episodes, and if that show can't break the rule, I'm not sure exactly what could.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I think that TSR is so much better than Lizzie. It may not be where many people can actually relate to, but compared to Lizzie its more realistic.


When I'm watching a TV show, I don't care how realistic it is. MacGyver and Happy Days are my two favorite shows, and neither of them are very realistic. When I want to watch TV, I want to get away from realsticness, as long as it isnt just so unrealistic that its ********.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Another reason why TSR probably will last longer is because Raven has much more talent than Hilary duff. Shes a much better actress, and shes a much better singer. And her show is actually funny not phony.

It wouldnt matter if she was as popular as Britney Spears, or was an actress like Audrey Hepburn, Disney wouldnt let that show go passed 65 episodes. I don't agree with any of that though, Raven overacts alot of things on her show. That makes it seem very phony. I'm not saying Lizzie McGuire isnt once in awhile. It's even a little corny sometimes, but its a great show thats really funny.

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
I looked it up and its only at 30 or 40 something. If it gets to 65, I can almost guarantee that it will be cancelled unless theres a miracle. Even Lizzie was cancelled after 65 episodes, and if that show can't break the rule, I'm not sure exactly what could.



When I'm watching a TV show, I don't care how realistic it is. MacGyver and Happy Days are my two favorite shows, and neither of them are very realistic. When I want to watch TV, I want to get away from realsticness, as long as it isnt just so unrealistic that its ********.



It wouldnt matter if she was as popular as Britney Spears, or was an actress like Audrey Hepburn, Disney wouldnt let that show go passed 65 episodes. I don't agree with any of that though, Raven overacts alot of things on her show. That makes it seem very phony. I'm not saying Lizzie McGuire isnt once in awhile. It's even a little corny sometimes, but its a great show thats really funny.

I dont know I think ppl like raven better, i know I do. The way you look at shows is different form me. Looking at a show as phony and fake as Lizzie just isnt my cup of Koolade.

Yes Raven does over act on her show, but at least she can act several different parts, and its funny and enjoyable to watch. She can act like that on her show, than she did an excellent job on the cheetah girls, because she was acting more like a snob.( similar to what Hilary may act like in real life) Look at her on the first Zenon, than look at her on her show and than look at her on the cheetah girls. She act totally different in all those three roles, that it show how good of an actress she really is. Now Hilary on the other hand acted very very the same in her movie, Cadet Kelly, and her show. She seemed more annoying in Cadet Kelly than her show, but she still held that bratty annoying apperance. So seeing that to me, it still looks like she isnt a great actress at all, and I already know she isnt a good singer period. So basically, to me, her whole career is built on fake phoniness.

IMO.

i agree too.....personally, i think hilary should be thankful for being able to have her own show!!! its like hilary doesnt even appreicate the work that she does, so maybe that's why people call her a phony....its almost like hilary takes her work for granted!

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I dont know I think ppl like raven better, i know I do. The way you look at shows is different form me. Looking at a show as phony and fake as Lizzie just isnt my cup of Koolade.

It isnt THAT phony and fake. Its very enjoyable to watch.


Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Yes Raven does over act on her show, but at least she can act several different parts, and its funny and enjoyable to watch.

It doesnt really matter how many different parts you play if you're crap at acting period. The worst actor in the world could do 155 different types of personalities and they wouldnt be any better of an actor.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
She can act like that on her show, than she did an excellent job on the cheetah girls, because she was acting more like a snob.( similar to what Hilary may act like in real life) Look at her on the first Zenon, than look at her on her show and than look at her on the cheetah girls. She act totally different in all those three roles, that it show how good of an actress she really is. Now Hilary on the other hand acted very very the same in her movie, Cadet Kelly, and her show. She seemed more annoying in Cadet Kelly than her show, but she still held that bratty annoying apperance. So seeing that to me, it still looks like she isnt a great actress at all, and I already know she isnt a good singer period. So basically, to me, her whole career is built on fake phoniness.

IMO.

Hilary's only done 2 movies so far and one TV show...And you can't really count the Lizzie McGuire movie, since she had to act like she did on the show. It'd be stupid if she acted totally different.

Kinda early in her career to be judging her on how she can't act.

Anyways, It's been anounced that she landed the starring role in a movie coming up in 2005, according to IMDB. She plays a snobby girl who gets sent to an Outward Bound program. Sounds kinda crappy, but I don't know.

Originally posted by moeee
i agree too.....personally, i think hilary should be thankful for being able to have her own show!!! its like hilary doesnt even appreicate the work that she does, so maybe that's why people call her a phony....its almost like hilary takes her work for granted!
How is any of that true? It'd make alot more sense if you explained what you mean.

Hilary does a ton of charity work. She doesnt take what she has for granted. She's raised alot of money for charity, and spends time with kids with disability. She hardly has any time for her friends or family, or time at home. But when she isnt working she'll do charity work. That's more than alot of actors/actresses who just don't give a crap about other people. That hardly makes her look snobby.

if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life????

Originally posted by moeee
if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life???? Ok, lets say someone gets out some stuff to cook and they start to cook. If they keep on cooking, they'll get better, right? NAW! They'll stay the same all their lives and stink at it.

That isnt true is it? So how is it any different with acting? Practice makes perfect. She's young anyways, with expirience, she'll most likely get better.

Originally posted by moeee
if hilary cant act now, what makes you think she gonna act better later on in her life????

That's your personal opinion that she can't act, not everyone feels that way. :rolleyes:

Personally I would pick her over Raven, and lots of other teen actors that try to act. At least Hilary has talent.

:D

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
Ok, lets say someone gets out some stuff to cook and they start to cook. If they keep on cooking, they'll get better, right? NAW! They'll stay the same all their lives and stink at it.

That isnt true is it? So how is it any different with acting? Practice makes perfect. She's young anyways, with expirience, she'll most likely get better.

well, i sure hope so because in my OPINON, hilary has a LOT of work to do!

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
How is any of that true? It'd make alot more sense if you explained what you mean.

Hilary does a ton of charity work. She doesnt take what she has for granted. She's raised alot of money for charity, and spends time with kids with disability. She hardly has any time for her friends or family, or time at home. But when she isnt working she'll do charity work. That's more than alot of actors/actresses who just don't give a crap about other people. That hardly makes her look snobby. I forgot to mention that she played two parts in the Lizzie movie.

Originally posted by moeee
:D Wow, great post. Now exactly what that ment is yet to be said.

Originally posted by moeee
well, i sure hope so because in my OPINON, hilary has a LOT of work to do! Maybe she does, but not anymore than Raven does. She'll get better, both of them probably if they both stick to acting.

I also forgot to mention she was in Cheaper by the Dozen, I didnt see that so I don't know what her character was like.

Well, obciously me and moeee think somewhat the same, while you and Topanga think similar. I really dont think Hilary has that much talent, I did get stuck seeing the Lizzie Movie, and she did do good potraying that other persons role. To me, she just looks like she cary herself like shes all that, thats why I really dont like her. Remember the circle of life video, out of Raven Christy and Hilary, who was in the middle like she deserved that spotlight, when her voice isnt great, esp. compared to Christy and raven, even Annelisa from raven sounded better than her, Heck almost everybody who was in the video that sang sounded better than her. Lets look at these facts. If Hilary hadnt of gone with Disney, than she basically wouldnt have a career. She wouldnt be popular, she probably wouldnt have been known, so she owes disney a big thanks. If she had landed a part in some other company, she probably still wouldnt have been given that much recognition as Disney gave her. Disney gave her a singing career, when she cant even sing or when she doesnt have NO talent in that area. Raven, on the other, may not sound ABSOLUTELY great with her voice, but before she came with disney, she had an album out, and already had experience with singing, so disney knew they were going to do that with her. Also with Raven, she had a career before disney, but lets say she wouldnt have went with them, she probably wouldnt be as popular, but she still would be known.

Raven just seems more Humble to me. She doesnt look like she carries a big head on her shoulder like all that fame should be hers. Raven doesnt look like she carries herself Boastfully, like all this is mine. But hilary just looks like shes thinks shes all that, which shes not.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Well, obciously me and moeee think somewhat the same, while you and Topanga think similar. I really dont think Hilary has that much talent, I did get stuck seeing the Lizzie Movie, and she did do good potraying that other persons role. To me, she just looks like she cary herself like shes all that, thats why I really dont like her.
And how does she give off that appearance?

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Remember the circle of life video, out of Raven Christy and Hilary, who was in the middle like she deserved that spotlight, when her voice isnt great, esp. compared to Christy and raven, even Annelisa from raven sounded better than her, Heck almost everybody who was in the video that sang sounded better than her.

Oh, be quiet. So she was in the middle. You act as though she was doing that to symbolize she was better than everyone else. Maybe Christy's voice is better than Hilary's, I dont know, but Raven's is no better.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Lets look at these facts. If Hilary hadnt of gone with Disney, than she basically wouldnt have a career. She wouldnt be popular, she probably wouldnt have been known, so she owes disney a big thanks.

What, is she supposed to be kissing the Disney exectutives feet or something? How do YOU know she hasnt thanked them? Just because she doesnt go around saying how thankful she is 50 times a month doesnt mean she isnt thankful. I know I've seen videos where she thanked Disney before. Then again, you probably think Raven is more thankful to Disney because Hilary hasnt yelled out "DISNEY ROCKS!" at a Nickelodeon awards show yet.

And you know what, even if she did thank them 50 times a month, instead of saying she was thankful you'd try and say something stupid like "She was just kissing up to them".

Disney probably is the reason she has a Career as big as she does now, but if Disney hadnt picked her up, she still would have HAD a career. If Raven wouldnt have went with Disney she'd most likely be totally forgotten about now too. Although she probably WOULD still have a career, just not as big as with Disney.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
If she had landed a part in some other company, she probably still wouldnt have been given that much recognition as Disney gave her. Disney gave her a singing career, when she cant even sing or when she doesnt have NO talent in that area. Raven, on the other, may not sound ABSOLUTELY great with her voice, but before she came with disney, she had an album out, and already had experience with singing, so disney knew they were going to do that with her. Also with Raven, she had a career before disney, but lets say she wouldnt have went with them, she probably wouldnt be as popular, but she still would be known.

Hilary can sing. I can sing. Not good at all, but I CAN sing. Everyone can. Hilary just does it alot better than most.

The fact is, Raven is no better of a singer, or an actress than Hilary. Hilary isnt the absolute GREATEST at it, but you can't expect the "Greatest" from a 16 year old Disney star.

Anyways, Raven has been acting for YEARS longer than Hilary. If anything that only makes Hilary look like a better actress because Raven's been doing it since Hilary was in Diapers but yet she's still crap at it. Hilary has only been doing it for 6 years, and she's pretty good.

Yeah, Raven had an album out before Disney, but that puts her in a whole different CLASS than Hilary. So you can't really compare them. The only aspect where they're even remotely comparable is that they're both Disney stars, and they both act and sing.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Raven just seems more Humble to me. She doesnt look like she carries a big head on her shoulder like all that fame should be hers. Raven doesnt look like she carries herself Boastfully, like all this is mine. But hilary just looks like shes thinks shes all that, which shes not.

That's crap anyways, you don't have any facts on how she DOES act that way, or you just havent bothered to share. If Hilary REALLY thought she was all that, and that she deserved every bit of what she had, she wouldnt do charity for the people who ARE less fortunate than her. How many 16 year old actresses even give a crap about that? She's been doing that since she was about 14, I think.

You have no facts, or proof that Hilary IS that way, so until I see it, I will give Hilary the benefit of the doubt, and say she isnt.

:clap Well said TF, I agree all the way, now if she constantly went around thanking Disney people would say she's sucking up to Disney :rolleyes: She can't win for losing.

Originally posted by Topanga
:clap Well said TF, I agree all the way, now if she constantly went around thanking Disney people would say she's sucking up to Disney :rolleyes: She can't win for losing. Exactly. There's no winning.

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
And how does she give off that appearance?



Oh, be quiet. So she was in the middle. You act as though she was doing that to symbolize she was better than everyone else. Maybe Christy's voice is better than Hilary's, I dont know, but Raven's is no better.



What, is she supposed to be kissing the Disney exectutives feet or something? How do YOU know she hasnt thanked them? Just because she doesnt go around saying how thankful she is 50 times a month doesnt mean she isnt thankful. I know I've seen videos where she thanked Disney before. Then again, you probably think Raven is more thankful to Disney because Hilary hasnt yelled out "DISNEY ROCKS!" at a Nickelodeon awards show yet.

And you know what, even if she did thank them 50 times a month, instead of saying she was thankful you'd try and say something stupid like "She was just kissing up to them".

Disney probably is the reason she has a Career as big as she does now, but if Disney hadnt picked her up, she still would have HAD a career. If Raven wouldnt have went with Disney she'd most likely be totally forgotten about now too. Although she probably WOULD still have a career, just not as big as with Disney.


Hilary can sing. I can sing. Not good at all, but I CAN sing. Everyone can. Hilary just does it alot better than most.

The fact is, Raven is no better of a singer, or an actress than Hilary. Hilary isnt the absolute GREATEST at it, but you can't expect the "Greatest" from a 16 year old Disney star.

Anyways, Raven has been acting for YEARS longer than Hilary. If anything that only makes Hilary look like a better actress because Raven's been doing it since Hilary was in Diapers but yet she's still crap at it. Hilary has only been doing it for 6 years, and she's pretty good.

Yeah, Raven had an album out before Disney, but that puts her in a whole different CLASS than Hilary. So you can't really compare them. The only aspect where they're even remotely comparable is that they're both Disney stars, and they both act and sing.



That's crap anyways, you don't have any facts on how she DOES act that way, or you just havent bothered to share. If Hilary REALLY thought she was all that, and that she deserved every bit of what she had, she wouldnt do charity for the people who ARE less fortunate than her. How many 16 year old actresses even give a crap about that? She's been doing that since she was about 14, I think.

You have no facts, or proof that Hilary IS that way, so until I see it, I will give Hilary the benefit of the doubt, and say she isnt.


OK, like I already said and gave my reasons why I dont like her and why I think she sucks, I am really going to say your are right.:rolleyes: Like I said before, and maybe you are to ignorant to comprehend it. She comes off TO ME as a stuck up person, Ive always thought of her like that ever since she started to sing. And I cant compare her and raven because to me, Raven is in a higher rank than Hilary.

You be quite, dont tell me just because you probably think she should be in the spotlight too.

I know how I fell about her, and she still is a stuck up snob, and thats the way she comes off to me, maybe if you werent so ignorant yull understand that, thats how the little bitch is seen in my eyes.

So, IMO, Raven has been, will be, and always will be better than Hilary. I agree her voice isnt that great, but its more decent than hilarys.

And all that Bull about you thinking Hilary can sing, maybe wth them studio effects, and she still sucks to me. Thats also your own opinion about her voice. You stated it like it was fact, I guess if you werent so ignorant you would know how to differenciate opinions from fact.

Originally posted by Topanga
:clap Well said TF, I agree all the way, now if she constantly went around thanking Disney people would say she's sucking up to Disney :rolleyes: She can't win for losing.


First off, I didnt say she should keep thanking disney, i said that she owes disney a big thanks. Thats a whole different bowl of Koolade, but I guess if you look at it ignorantly than thats what yull come up with.

Now, hopefully yall know that if she didnt get the part for Lizzie she would have not had a singer career(usually they signed people who have good voices) She wouldnt have even been anybody like her little fake self is now. But Raven would have still had something to do.

Im not going to compare Raven with Hilary, because like I said Raven is in a higher rank, at least to me.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
OK, like I already said and gave my reasons why I dont like her and why I think she sucks, I am really going to say your are right.:rolleyes: Like I said before, and maybe you are to ignorant to comprehend it. She comes off TO ME as a stuck up person, Ive always thought of her like that ever since she started to sing. And I cant compare her and raven because to me, Raven is in a higher rank than Hilary.

And you have every right to dislike her, but if you don't have any real facts as to why she should be disliked, don't come over to a board deticated to Hilary and start acting like she's the worst thing to come on the planet since hitler. You're being a jerk, you have the right to voice your opinion as much as you want on this board, but theres a difference from stating your opinion, and shoving it down peoples throats.

And yes, maybe she is in a higher rank than Hilary, rightly so, she's been around longer, like that matters...

Hilary is just starting out, she'll get better, and she'll move up in the ranks.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
You be quite, dont tell me just because you probably think she should be in the spotlight too.

I can't really understand what you're saying. Please talk in english, man.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I know how I fell about her, and she still is a stuck up snob, and thats the way she comes off to me, maybe if you werent so ignorant yull understand that, thats how the little bitch is seen in my eyes.

I know that's how you feel about her, and I'm not trying to change your opinion, I'm just doing my very best to prove your points wrong (As most of them are).

MAybe she is just a "Little B*tch" in your eyes, but your points are based on purely asumptions and views with no real proof of point, so you shouldnt be going on to Lizzie McGuire boards or Hilary boards bashing the Girl for reasons you don't even have proof of, because you WILL get bad feedback on your points, and rightly so.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
So, IMO, Raven has been, will be, and always will be better than Hilary. I agree her voice isnt that great, but its more decent than hilarys.

That's your opinion, in mine, Hilary will always be better than Raven, even though I have nothing against her, and she seems pretty cool. I see nothing wrong with her, just not my cup of tea.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
And all that Bull about you thinking Hilary can sing, maybe wth them studio effects, and she still sucks to me. Thats also your own opinion about her voice. You stated it like it was fact, I guess if you werent so ignorant you would know how to differenciate opinions from fact.

Eh, it's not bull. Its called OPINION, I think she can sing, and actually is better without studio effects. The effects just make the songs sound cool in my opinion, and I like them.

It IS a fact. Everyone can sing, except for people who cant speek. Some just do bad, and some do good. And in my OPINION, Hilary sings good.

Now you, you're stating that her voice is bad being a fact. In saying that my opinion that her voice is good is "Bull", you just said that your view of her voice being bad, was a fact, not an opinion.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
First off, I didnt say she should keep thanking disney, i said that she owes disney a big thanks. Thats a whole different bowl of Koolade, but I guess if you look at it ignorantly than thats what yull come up with.

She HAS thanked Disney before. If you even gave the time to actually read facts instead of making stuff up in your head you'd know that already.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Now, hopefully yall know that if she didnt get the part for Lizzie she would have not had a singer career(usually they signed people who have good voices) She wouldnt have even been anybody like her little fake self is now. But Raven would have still had something to do.
I dont know about all of that, but I'm not saying she would have, but nobody knows for sure, so you shouldnt really be talking.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Im not going to compare Raven with Hilary, because like I said Raven is in a higher rank, at least to me.

Then its best you go back to your little "Raven" board and talk with the rest of the kids, instead of coming over here and comparing the two, as much as you deny it, you have been comparing them, and thats what you've been doing since this thread started.

Yeah this is not the place for Hilary haters, fine if you hate her, then hate her, but don't bring that hate here.

Go back to the Raven board and spread your Raven love there, you're just making me hate Raven more by doing this :mad:

Originally posted by Topanga
Yeah this is not the place for Hilary haters, fine if you hate her, then hate her, but don't bring that hate here.

Go back to the Raven board and spread your Raven love there, you're just making me hate Raven more by doing this :mad:

Really, it just makes her look worse.

Her fans cant even just talk about her, they have to resort to bashing Hilary to make Raven look better. The fact is, bashing Hilary because she has shot up to stardom and is now bigger than your beloved Raven isnt going to make Raven any bigger of a celebrity.

Maybe that isnt why you're causing all this trouble, but it sure seems like that. You come over here saying how Hilary doesnt deserve all the fame shes gotten - and then try to make her out to be nothing but a brat who thinks she deserves it all.

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
Really, it just makes her look worse.

Her fans cant even just talk about her, they have to resort to bashing Hilary to make Raven look better. The fact is, bashing Hilary because she has shot up to stardom and is now bigger than your beloved Raven isnt going to make Raven any bigger of a celebrity.

Exactly I hate when people do that, they cannot defend Raven on her own merits they have to bash Hilary to make Raven look better. When in fact it doesn't :rolleyes:

OK, Im done wasting my time with yall, I will come back, but not anytime soon.

I didnt even bother to read over yall last posts so I really dont know what you said. But I do know that its all **** to me. I did read storm trackers statement about me trying to dictate yall to not like her. Well, your gay if you think I said that, I mean I knew you were ignorant, but saying Im dictated you into not liking her, you are being just like what she comes off to me.

Lets see, ummmmmmm Raven is still better and has better skills, to me, and Hilary sucks more than any actress I know.

Call me whatever you want, immature, arrogant, bastard, whatever, I heard them all, and I dont give a damn. All the words you call me that are bad, are words that fit Hilarys category perfectly. Judging by your replies back, Ill decide whether I wanna comeback or not.

Ill go to the raven board when I want, look at the name of the thread. If you had a smart value its a debate about who should have been teen queen. Hilary shouldnt IMO

This is a freikin message board, once again if you werent ignorant, you would know ppl are going to come here with different opinions if you dont like that than you go away. I registered here, and you will see me all over this site, if you dont like it, than kindly go somewhere else, I mean dang big deal, I dont like Hilary. Quit trippin, and just agree to disagree.

Hate Raven more all you want, Before you came her topanga, and posted something saying how ignorant I was, I was trying to look at her in a different way so I wouldnt be so judgemental. Go back a couple of pages and read my post before you came and said what you said then yull see I didnt start this you did. So thats your problem.

OK, heres what Ill do. Ill make a deal with you guys similar to what I did at the even stevens boards. After this debate is over I, know that this part of the site will be dead. Just like theres is now. Ill try not to post hateful remarks bout how much I dislike the snotty nosed Hilary, but Ill just state my opinion. If yall cant accept this than yall are stubborn. But thats what Ill do.


Note to you guys, why is it that almost everytime I be on this site, the Thats so raven board is always bumpin with a new topic or new reply, and this part of the site is only bumpin when theres an argument like what we're having now. Is it because people like Raven better, or is it because yall arent as confinident in Hilary as yall say. You decide that one. And you cant say because Lizzie mcguire is cancelled, and Raven isnt, is why yall hardly reply here. Because ST said that Hilary is an emerging star. If she is then there should be a lot of more discussion about her emerging abilities, and how great she is in acting and singing.

Well, yall decide on that, and if yall want me to leave, and not bash her, just kindly say that, and Ill only come here to state my opinion. Which I did when this thread first started, but some people just had to make it more of a big deal than it really was.
This thread was really old, untill ST came and said something I didnt agree with, so naturaley I came to debate her on it. Than the thread died, and topanga came and said something ignorant towards me, and didnt even look at how nicely I said the last post I made, but just quoted something else.

Anyways yall decide, and we'll see if I agree.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
OK, Im done wasting my time with yall, I will come back, but not anytime soon.

About dang time. Although I will be missing our daily arguments. :wave:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I didnt even bother to read over yall last posts so I really dont know what you said. But I do know that its all **** to me. I did read storm trackers statement about me trying to dictate yall to not like her. Well, your gay if you think I said that, I mean I knew you were ignorant, but saying Im dictated you into not liking her, you are being just like what she comes off to me.

Kinda obvious you didnt. So, you're saying I'm acting like a Snobbish, Selfish, B*tch who needs to give a big thanks to Disney? :confused:

If you actually took the time to read it you'd know I DIDNT say you were trying to make us dictate her, or anything near it.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Lets see, ummmmmmm Raven is still better and has better skills, to me, and Hilary sucks more than any actress I know.

Of course, do you think I care? I wasnt trying to change your opinion, just defending Hilary, since you'd like to make her out to be alot worse than she actually is. And, well, I just can't let ya do that since its all asumptions anyway. ;)

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Call me whatever you want, immature, arrogant, bastard, whatever, I heard them all,

That isnt surprising.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
All the words you call me that are bad, are words that fit Hilarys category perfectly.

Yeeeaaah. That was probably the stupidest thing you've said in this thread. :lol:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Judging by your replies back, Ill decide whether I wanna comeback or not. Betchya anything you reply back.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Ill go to the raven board when I want, look at the name of the thread. If you had a smart value its a debate about who should have been teen queen. Hilary shouldnt IMO

I am plenty smart, little boy. And I did give my view on who the teen queen should be, I said I didnt care what everyone says, I don't need that. As long as Hilary is the teen queen in MY eyes, thats all that matters. You're the one who turned the conversation around, it didnt exactly turn around anyways, it kinda slowly morphed into what it is now. But that doesnt matter anyways.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
This is a freikin message board, once again if you werent ignorant, you would know ppl are going to come here with different opinions if you dont like that than you go away. I registered here, and you will see me all over this site, if you dont like it, than kindly go somewhere else, I mean dang big deal, I dont like Hilary. Quit trippin, and just agree to disagree.

We arent ignorant, people DO come here with different opinions, the only difference with you is that you dont just give your opinion....You shove it down our throats.

Voicing your opinion = Ok...But not when you do it in every freaking thread, and its the exact same thing, practically copy and paste. Nobody cares, this is a board for the FANS. It is not for haters of the show to talk about it, you hate it? Go talk about it with people who care. The owner of this place doesnt even want people mearly going to the board to bash the show. It only starts fights.

I have an idea, we don't like it, why don't you kindly go somewhere else? This is a fan forum, last time I checked, wouldnt that mean WE belonged here, and not you? :confused:

Oh, and I did agree to disagree, I did that a long time ago. I'm just giving constructive comebacks to your views on Hilary, with real points, not lame assumptions with absolutely no proof to back them up.

When Hilary is being talked about negatively at a board deticated to her, I will back Hilary up, and I WILL give my point of view, and facts to prove you wrong. I'm just that way, no hard feelings. :wave:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Hate Raven more all you want, Before you came her topanga, and posted something saying how ignorant I was, I was trying to look at her in a different way so I wouldnt be so judgemental. Go back a couple of pages and read my post before you came and said what you said then yull see I didnt start this you did. So thats your problem.

If you really wanted to be fair to Hilary, or even give her a chance, you would've atleast listened to what I said instead of giving it no thought whatsoever. I don't want to change your opinion, because you really can't do that. But you're acting like you wanted to be all "Fair", which you obviously werent trying to do at all.

You're most likely just jealous that Hilary has kinda, "Stolen" Raven's spotlight on Disney. That's kinda obvious, because if you really had a reason to come over here and bash her besides using the stuff you've just assumed...I could give your views a TAD bit more respect. But you're not using facts, or even really good points, so I can't take ya too seriously.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
OK, heres what Ill do. Ill make a deal with you guys similar to what I did at the even stevens boards. After this debate is over I, know that this part of the site will be dead. Just like theres is now. Ill try not to post hateful remarks bout how much I dislike the snotty nosed Hilary, but Ill just state my opinion. If yall cant accept this than yall are stubborn. But thats what Ill do.
Yeah, I noticed you've been starting crap over there.

Well, maybe it will go a little dead, but not if I can help it.

I'd appreciate if you didnt, thanks.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
the snotty nosed Hilary

Well, you're sure getting off to a good start. :lol: ;)

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Note to you guys, why is it that almost everytime I be on this site, the Thats so raven board is always bumpin with a new topic or new reply, and this part of the site is only bumpin when theres an argument like what we're having now.

Well heres some points:

1. The Raven board is mostly just spam, i.e :rolleyes: YEPS!!! etc... So it isnt REALLY Raven talk.

2. There is a bigger group of people posting there.

3. That's so Raven is still on the air, so there's new stuff to talk about, on the show.

4. They talk about alot of the same things.

5. More people go there. Not that Raven has more fans than Hilary...I don't know. Doesnt seem like it, but I wont assume...Different things come up in different searches. So more Raven fans may have found this site, and Lizzie/Hilary Fans may just not have found this, because "Hilary" isnt in the name of Lizzie McGuire, but "Raven" is in the title of TSR, so that could be a factor. If someone was searching for "Hilary Duff" but not for "Lizzie McGuire", this site might not come up.

Believe me, there are PLENTY of other active Hil/Lizzie boards.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Is it because people like Raven better, or is it because yall arent as confinident in Hilary as yall say. You decide that one. And you cant say because Lizzie mcguire is cancelled, and Raven isnt, is why yall hardly reply here. Because ST said that Hilary is an emerging star. If she is then there should be a lot of more discussion about her emerging abilities, and how great she is in acting and singing.

I doubt it's because people like Raven better, more people have just found that site.

Yes, actually I CAN say its because Lizzie McGuire is cancelled, because this board isnt really for just talk about Hilary Duff, but for her show (Although it is definetly allowed).

There are tons of HILARY boards, and not Lizzie Boards, that are booming with activity, but there is rarely talk about Lizzie, because its cancelled, and everyones seen every epsiode quite a few times.

Yes, she is an emerging star, with emerging abilities, that ARE being discussed...On other boards, that are for Hilary, not Lizzie McGuire, although that is discussed because it does relate to her. And believe me, there is plenty of activity, with discussions of her singing and acting. Probably more than the Raven board here.

The difference with the Lizzie Board, is that we discuss the SHOW, and the other cast members, not just Hilary, unlike the Raven board, where its been months since another cast member was mentioned. Ours is a mix of everything about the show, so its a bit moderated as to which is discussed for (Hilary is probably the most, then Adam Lamberg)

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Well, yall decide on that, and if yall want me to leave, and not bash her, just kindly say that, and Ill only come here to state my opinion. Which I did when this thread first started, but some people just had to make it more of a big deal than it really was.
This thread was really old, untill ST came and said something I didnt agree with, so naturaley I came to debate her on it. Than the thread died, and topanga came and said something ignorant towards me, and didnt even look at how nicely I said the last post I made, but just quoted something else.

I like a nice debate, especially when its about something I like as much as Hilary. I feel a sense of pride that I'm defending her...I'm a loyal fan, so it's sorta like my job. And in situations like that I feel it needs to be done.

I saw some of your posts here, and they were bashing Hilary, naturally I'm going to disagree and debate.

MAybe Topanga didnt SEE your other post until after she posted hers, you couldve put that into consideration if you really wanted this discussion to stop.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Anyways yall decide, and we'll see if I agree.

Somehow I doubt it.

Originally posted by Stormtracker TF
Yeah, I noticed you've been starting crap over there.

Well, maybe it will go a little dead, but not if I can help it.

I'd appreciate if you didnt, thanks.



Well, you're sure getting off to a good start. :lol: ;)



Well heres some points:

1. The Raven board is mostly just spam, i.e :rolleyes: YEPS!!! etc... So it isnt REALLY Raven talk.

2. There is a bigger group of people posting there.

3. That's so Raven is still on the air, so there's new stuff to talk about, on the show.

4. They talk about alot of the same things.

5. More people go there. Not that Raven has more fans than Hilary...I don't know. Doesnt seem like it, but I wont assume...Different things come up in different searches. So more Raven fans may have found this site, and Lizzie/Hilary Fans may just not have found this, because "Hilary" isnt in the name of Lizzie McGuire, but "Raven" is in the title of TSR, so that could be a factor. If someone was searching for "Hilary Duff" but not for "Lizzie McGuire", this site might not come up.

Believe me, there are PLENTY of other active Hil/Lizzie boards.



I doubt it's because people like Raven better, more people have just found that site.

Yes, actually I CAN say its because Lizzie McGuire is cancelled, because this board isnt really for just talk about Hilary Duff, but for her show (Although it is definetly allowed).

There are tons of HILARY boards, and not Lizzie Boards, that are booming with activity, but there is rarely talk about Lizzie, because its cancelled, and everyones seen every epsiode quite a few times.

Yes, she is an emerging star, with emerging abilities, that ARE being discussed...On other boards, that are for Hilary, not Lizzie McGuire, although that is discussed because it does relate to her. And believe me, there is plenty of activity, with discussions of her singing and acting. Probably more than the Raven board here.

The difference with the Lizzie Board, is that we discuss the SHOW, and the other cast members, not just Hilary, unlike the Raven board, where its been months since another cast member was mentioned. Ours is a mix of everything about the show, so its a bit moderated as to which is discussed for (Hilary is probably the most, then Adam Lamberg)



I like a nice debate, especially when its about something I like as much as Hilary. I feel a sense of pride that I'm defending her...I'm a loyal fan, so it's sorta like my job. And in situations like that I feel it needs to be done.

I saw some of your posts here, and they were bashing Hilary, naturally I'm going to disagree and debate.

MAybe Topanga didnt SEE your other post until after she posted hers, you couldve put that into consideration if you really wanted this discussion to stop.



Somehow I doubt it.

:rofl:

OMG TF you rule :rock:

He has started crap at the Boy Meets World forum as well, he was banned under another screenname for starting crap, hmmm maybe TJ needs to get a PM letting him know he's causing trouble again, and calling people names

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Topanga
:rofl:

OMG TF you rule :rock:

He has started crap at the Boy Meets World forum as well, he was banned under another screenname for starting crap, hmmm maybe TJ needs to get a PM letting him know he's causing trouble again, and calling people names

:rolleyes:

:king: Thanks. I don't really have hard feelings for the guy... But he could post over at boards for shows he likes instead of wasting his time starting trouble at other boards.

OK whatever, yall win this one. But next time you probably wont be this lucky. I still dont like Hilary duff, and you have proved to me that you are an *******. I didnt start this sh*t, yall did. When ST posted her reply it just caused chaos. Now, Im going on vacation, and Im gonna have me a good time, by the time I get back, Ill be ready.

I still think that, whenver this debate ends this part of the site will be dead. I still think hilary is fake, and I dont know how many times I told you that I didnt start this, but yea, Yall are ignorant. I really dont need to be lowering my standards talking to people who think that Hilary is all that anywayz


Anyways congratulations. If you want this to be done with, dont reply back, Im basically thru witht this thread. But I will be back.

Congradulations.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
OK whatever, yall win this one. But next time you probably wont be this lucky. I still dont like Hilary duff, and you have proved to me that you are an *******. I didnt start this sh*t, yall did. When ST posted her reply it just caused chaos. Now, Im going on vacation, and Im gonna have me a good time, by the time I get back, Ill be ready.

First of all...I'm a He, and for the last time...I never WANTED you to like Hilary Duff.

How can you call this CHAOS? We're just having a constuctive discussion, I dont really see how we're fighting, maybe a heated arguement, but I'm not even mad at you. :lol:

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I still think that, whenver this debate ends this part of the site will be dead.

Who cares? I'll still post here whenever I feel like it.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I still think hilary is fake, and I dont know how many times I told you that I didnt start this, but yea, Yall are ignorant.

Yeah...I know. I dont care. Actually, by coming over here and stating your "opinion" you DID start it, because naturally being harsh is going to start fights. Technically, you did start it.


Originally posted by lilb-boy3
I really dont need to be lowering my standards talking to people who think that Hilary is all that anywayz.

Talk about a jerk. Just because I made you mad is no reason to bash ALL of Hilary's fans. You're begining to show your immaturity now that you're totally losing this debate.

But then again, I dont care, and neither should anyone else, I think Hilary is all that...And am proud of it, ya SOB.

Originally posted by lilb-boy3
Anyways congratulations. If you want this to be done with, dont reply back, Im basically thru witht this thread. But I will be back.

Congradulations.


Thanks. :king: Later. :wave: Have a good time on vacation, man.