View Full Version : James was hell bent on Florida not working, wasn't he?


nerrad
05-12-2004, 03:15 PM
Did he have that much pride? The man had a 6th grade education, so he needed help. I can see if he was making Huxtab...(well in GT case, Alderman Davis) money. Damn, they were poor. I was always rattled by that. I was watching that Hypertension episode where Florida wanted to apply for a maid's job. James: "What the hell you doing applying for a job"?

Do I feel a inconsistency coming on? In the episode where Florida went to lunch with her boss, wasn't she working? Whatever happened to that job? I know she was drunk and talking about tin whistles:lol: How did she ever get that job in the first place?

jamesanthony
05-12-2004, 03:33 PM
A lot of men of earlier eras didn't want their wives to work. I don't know where Florida was working in that episode where she got drunk.

In hindsight James had a lot of flaws, and he was very funny. I didn't think he was funny watching him in the original series run in the 70s when I was a grade school kid. I found him intimidating. But he was very humorous and very realistic.

TVFactFan
05-12-2004, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by jamesanthony
A lot of men of earlier eras didn't want their wives to work. I don't know where Florida was working in that episode where she got drunk.

In hindsight James had a lot of flaws, and he was very funny. I didn't think he was funny watching him in the original series run in the 70s when I was a grade school kid. I found him intimidating. But he was very humorous and very realistic.


Why were you intimidated by James when watching GT in it's original run?

marvin g
05-12-2004, 07:52 PM
I guess this is just another one of those inconsistancies! I never really heard of a black man not letting his wife work unless he was making big big dollars. Also he didn't seem to have a problem with Florida working for Maude! OOPS! Sorry! TVShow Anaylzer! ;)

TVFactFan
05-12-2004, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by marvin g
I guess this is just another one of those inconsistancies! I never really heard of a black man not letting his wife work unless he was making big big dollars. Also he didn't seem to have a problem with Florida working for Maude! OOPS! Sorry! TVShow Anaylzer! ;)


That was Henry Evans who didn't have a problem with his wife working as a maid. JAMES evans was the guy who did. Two different people-lol

jamesanthony
05-12-2004, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Why were you intimidated by James when watching GT in it's original run?

James had a temper on him!!

TVFactFan
05-12-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by jamesanthony
James had a temper on him!!


Yeah I thought that throwing the chair against the wall was a bit much for a sitcom.

Lady T
05-12-2004, 10:13 PM
I think the fact that James only had a 6th grade education caused him to be somewhat narrow minded on his views on certain things, including his wife working; I basically think James was threatened of the thought of Florida joining the work forces and making more money than he, and I do not think his fragile pride could handle that...

jamesanthony
05-12-2004, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Undercover Angel
I think the fact that James only had a 6th grade education caused him to be somewhat narrow minded on his views on certain things, including his wife working; I basically think James was threatened of the thought of Florida joining the work forces and making more money than he, and I do not think his fragile pride could handle that...

You hit the nail on the head with that one.

Did they ever say why James never went further in school? Or how he and Florida met. I don't remember.

Lady T
05-12-2004, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by jamesanthony
You hit the nail on the head with that one.

Did they ever say why James never went further in school? Or how he and Florida met. I don't remember. Good Question...I would like to know that information myself:wave:

jamesanthony
05-12-2004, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Undercover Angel
Good Question...I would like to know that information myself:wave:

One of the most dramatic episode showcasing James is the one when they find his father. I guess since his father wasn't around he had to work at a very young age. I don't know why Florida never finished her schooling though. There is a lot to speculate about.

Lady T
05-12-2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by jamesanthony
One of the most dramatic episode showcasing James is the one when they find his father. I guess since his father wasn't around he had to work at a very young age. I don't know why Florida never finished her schooling though. There is a lot to speculate about. I am assuming for women, both African-American and Caucasian, that grew up in low in-come families from Florida's generation did not finish school....

jamesanthony
05-12-2004, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Undercover Angel
I am assuming for women, both African-American and Caucasian, that grew up in low in-come families from Florida's generation did not finish school....

That type of thing happened commonly if the girl had to take care of younger siblings or got pregnant early but Florida didn't seem to have younger siblings (she had a brother, but Lou Gossett seemed to be close to her in age, maybe not who knows? ). Also, judging by the ages of the 3 kids it seemed JJ would have come along when Florida was already an adult.

Just fun speculation though. It would have been fun for the writers to have put some of this "backstory" into the scripts.

Lady T
05-12-2004, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by jamesanthony
That type of thing happened commonly if the girl had to take care of younger siblings or got pregnant early but Florida didn't seem to have younger siblings (she had a brother, but Lou Gossett seemed to be close to her in age, maybe not who knows? ). Also, judging by the ages of the 3 kids it seemed JJ would have come along when Florida was already an adult.

Just fun speculation though. It would have been fun for the writers to have put some of this "backstory" into the scripts. I am guessing that maybe Florida did not finish her education due to the fact that she did need to take care of her family; for her starting her family, I believe that Florida was in her 20's, when she gave birth to both JJ and Thelma, because I believe they are only less than two years a part...

nerrad
05-13-2004, 07:26 AM
I remember them mentioning having JJ before they'd gotten married. I think it was the episode where they threw the party for James, but he was too old for the job.

jamesanthony
05-13-2004, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by nerrad
I remember them mentioning having JJ before they'd gotten married. I think it was the episode where they threw the party for James, but he was too old for the job.

That explains a lot. Very daring of the writers to have that kind of story thread in a 1970s sitcom.

GeeBee
05-16-2004, 02:02 PM
Actually the whole point of "Henry Evans" appearing on Maude was to tell Florida to stop working. So the character of James Henry Evans was pretty consistent from Maude to the spin-off, Good Times.

TVFactFan
05-16-2004, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Actually the whole point of "Henry Evans" appearing on Maude was to tell Florida to stop working. So the character of James Henry Evans was pretty consistent from Maude to the spin-off, Good Times.



There was never a TV character by the name of-"James Henry Evans"

GeeBee
05-16-2004, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
There was never a TV character by the name of-"James Henry Evans"

Sure there was. He was "Henry" on Maude and "James" on Good Times, so it's simple arithmetic that one was his middle name or a nick name. He may have been "Henry James Evans" though.

TVFactFan
05-16-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Sure there was. He was "Henry" on Maude and "James" on Good Times, so it's simple arithmetic that one was his middle name or a nick name. He may have been "Henry James Evans" though.


His middle name was never mentioned on Good Times, therefore, His name was James Evans on GT and Henry Evans on Maude

GeeBee
05-16-2004, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
His middle name was never mentioned on Good Times,


Right, if another middle name had been mentioned, we could rule out "Henry" or "James". However, since no middle name was ever mentioned and he was known as "Henry" on Maude and "James" on Good Times, it is fair to say that his full name was probably a combination of both. Either "Henry James Evans" or "James Henry Evans". Or one of them may have been just a nickname. People do have more than one name sometimes.

TVFactFan
05-16-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Right, if another middle name had been mentioned, we could rule out "Henry" or "James". However, since no middle name was ever mentioned and he was known as "Henry" on Maude and "James" on Good Times, it is fair to say that his full name was probably a combination of both. Either "Henry James Evans" or "James Henry Evans". Or one of them may have been just a nickname. People do have more than one name sometimes.


The only Henry on GT was James Father, HENRY EVANS. THE END

GeeBee
05-16-2004, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
The only Henry on GT was James Father, HENRY EVANS. THE END


That's another very good sign that James was named Henry as well. His father, Henry, gave him his name. It's like when Mike Stivic named his son "Joseph Michael Stivic." James was "James Henry Evans." Good observation.

TVFactFan
05-16-2004, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
That's another very good sign that James was named Henry as well. His father, Henry, gave him his name. It's like when Mike Stivic named his son "Joseph Michael Stivic." James was "James Henry Evans." Good observation.


U still didn't answer me about how old you were when Good Times premeired

GeeBee
05-18-2004, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
U still didn't answer me about how old you were when Good Times premeired


I was in my pre-teens. Why do you ask?

TVFactFan
05-18-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
I was in my pre-teens. Why do you ask?


Because i want to know what exactly do u remember seeing in the opening credits in 1974. Whether it was extended video footage or different lyrics. Did it really say-It's a Maudie Spinoff? That sounds odd to me.

GeeBee
05-18-2004, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Because i want to know what exactly do u remember seeing in the opening credits in 1974. Whether it was extended video footage or different lyrics. Did it really say-It's a Maudie Spinoff? That sounds odd to me.


Sure, it was originally:

"Temporary Lay Off...Good Times...

It's a Maudie Spin-Off...Good Times...

Ain't we lucky we got 'em...


Good Times..."

TVFactFan
05-19-2004, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
Sure, it was originally:

"Temporary Lay Off...Good Times...

It's a Maudie Spin-Off...Good Times...

Ain't we lucky we got 'em...


Good Times..."


Why would they remove the Maudie spinoff line?

GeeBee
05-19-2004, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Why would they remove the Maudie spinoff line?


It was too controversial. You see how heated the topic of whether or not Good Times is a spin-off gets on here.

TVFactFan
05-19-2004, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
It was too controversial. You see how heated the topic of whether or not Good Times is a spin-off gets on here.


what was controversial about it???

GeeBee
05-19-2004, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
what was controversial about it???


People have strong feelings about whether Good Times was a spin-off or not and it causes a lot of conflict. You of all people should know that.

Yemana's Coffee
06-03-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by nerrad
Did he have that much pride? The man had a 6th grade education, so he needed help. I can see if he was making Huxtab...(well in GT case, Alderman Davis) money. Damn, they were poor. I was always rattled by that. I was watching that Hypertension episode where Florida wanted to apply for a maid's job. James: "What the hell you doing applying for a job"?

Do I feel a inconsistency coming on? In the episode where Florida went to lunch with her boss, wasn't she working? Whatever happened to that job? I know she was drunk and talking about tin whistles:lol: How did she ever get that job in the first place?


James was also upset when Florida wanted to go back to school to get her **GED**.

Remember how pissed he was about that?

TVFactFan
06-03-2004, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Yemana's Coffee
James was also upset when Florida wanted to go back to school to get her **GED**.

Remember how pissed he was about that?


then they both went to night school and only James graduated-LOL

GeeBee
06-04-2004, 08:09 AM
James was even jealous of J.J.'s success in one episode. A man jealous of his own son is pathetic. James had layers and layers of insecurity.

TVFactFan
06-04-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by GeeBee
James was even jealous of J.J.'s success in one episode. A man jealous of his own son is pathetic. James had layers and layers of insecurity.


And what episode is that?

GeeBee
06-07-2004, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
And what episode is that?


I believe it was "The Mural."

TVFactFan
06-08-2004, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
I believe it was "The Mural."


That episode comes on tomorrow so i will let you know if your comment is true

Lady T
06-08-2004, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
That episode comes on tomorrow so i will let you know if your comment is true What season was The Mural from?

TVFactFan
06-08-2004, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Undercover Angel
What season was The Mural from?

Season 3. I can't remember James being Jealous i have to see it again.

Lady T
06-08-2004, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Season 3. I can't remember James being Jealous i have to see it again. I cannot see james being Jealous, but I can see him threaten if Florida went out and got herself a job...

nerrad
06-08-2004, 08:53 AM
I think James was jealous because it all had to do with Thelma needing the money for something I can't remember, but by the bank manager offering JJ cash money for his services, he gave his earnings to Thelma, instead of James rasing it himself. It made the ole' guy seem down in the dumps:crazy:

TVFactFan
06-08-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by GeeBee
James was even jealous of J.J.'s success in one episode. A man jealous of his own son is pathetic. James had layers and layers of insecurity.


I jut watched the episode and James was not jealous of J.J's success, he was disappointed in hisself for not being able to help Thelma with College like J.J was able to do.

GeeBee
06-08-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
I jut watched the episode and James was not jealous of J.J's success, he was disappointed in hisself for not being able to help Thelma with College like J.J was able to do.


He should have just been happy for his children.

liane49
04-30-2013, 12:02 PM
You hit the nail on the head with that one.

Did they ever say why James never went further in school? Or how he and Florida met. I don't remember.
Him and Jethro(Beberely Hillbillies) Both had a 6 grade education but Jethro was more dumb.