View Full Version : Here is why it was so difficult to give the Jeffersons a Series Finale
TVFactFan 05-09-2004, 06:25 PM Because the Jeffersons achieved such a major GOAL at the Beginning of the Series. They were able to move to a fancy neighborhood and George was a successful businessman so it was really nothing else for the Jeffersons to accomplish if you ask me. It's not that many sitcoms that begin a series with cast members accomplishing so much so early. Maybe moving to Hawaii and selling the cleaning stores could have been idea for a series Finale instead of a 4 part episode
jamesanthony 05-09-2004, 07:58 PM You have a very valid point, TVA. It's just as well that they didn't have any sort of special ending to this. What could they do? Have Florence get married and move out maybe. That's about it. George was too young to retire and Louise didn't work so she was already retired basically. Besides they played with the retirement plotline at least twice: in the Hawaii episodes and at the start of year 9 in Laundry is a Tough Town. Seeing how bored they were in part 2 of that one I can't imagine George retiring anytime in the 80s.
Another point about Florence getting married: I can't imagine such a plot. She is much more entertaining as what we used to call an "old maid" than as someone's wife. In the last season there is an episode where she goes on a blind date and is matched up with Mr Bentley! He's another one that I can't see being married to anyone.
The show works because these characters are like exaggerations of people a lot of us know in real life.
nerrad 05-10-2004, 03:15 PM Good point. I guess there was nothing else left.
Lady T 05-13-2004, 12:46 AM I have not seen the 4 part finale of The Jeffersons, but I heard it was a complete dispointment; but a lot of the sitcoms that came from that time period, most of them had rather, surprisingly poor written finales:confused:
jamesanthony 05-13-2004, 09:47 AM Originally posted by Undercover Angel
I have not seen the 4 part finale of The Jeffersons, but I heard it was a complete dispointment; but a lot of the sitcoms that came from that time period, most of them had rather, surprisingly poor written finales:confused:
There was no finale for this series. That's what TVSHow Analyzer is talking about.
Actually I like the fact that there was no finale. This show was from an era when you could have a long running series with self-contained episodes and no long drawn out soap opera like gimmicks that demanded some type of resolution to wrap up loose ends.
Brian Damage 05-13-2004, 10:06 AM It didn't have to be a soap opera like ending, but they should've given that show a proper goodbye.
jamesanthony 05-13-2004, 10:28 AM I think it's just as well that it just had a regular episode as the last one. The characters still show up in commercials, other shows etc so they have taken on this kind of life of their own that transcends the show itself.
There is an episode that to me could've been the last one. Laundry Is A Tough Town which opened year 9. According to tvtome it was filmed in year 8 but held back for year 9 for some reason.
George is competing with Blue Sky cleaners who are having a promotional for their one millionth customer. Louise is sick of George's ridiculous competitive behavior (including having Tom Willis dress up in a huge starch box as Mr Starch) so she goes to Blue Sky to have a discussion with the owner. She walks in and becomes the one millionth customer. Later she tries to conceal this fact from George.
There is a very funny/touching scene with the two sitting on their couch where he is telling her that she is his "rock", and that everything he does is for and because of her love for him and his love for her. All the while she is trying to keep him form seeing her picture in the newpaper article commemorating her as the one millionth customer. When he finally sees it, he admits defeat and decides to retire. After being retired a while, laying around doing nothing but annoying Florence and Weezie, Louise reminds him of the advice that he gave budding fashion designer Jenny: Never give up. So he takes his own advice and decides to go back to business and be better than ever.
This episode has the essence of the series: George and Weezie's undying love and devotion to each other, Jenny Jeffeson striking out on her own without Lionel and George being brought low and contemplating quitting his business but being true to his scrappy, tenacious nature and getting back in the game.
afijamesy2k 01-16-2018, 08:30 PM Sayonara should have been the 2 hour series finale.
tlc38tlc38 02-20-2018, 10:17 PM I'm actually ok with no proper series finale but I'm not ok with the way CBS treated the show and its people. 11 wonderful years with high ratings and they get dumped with no warning, that's just dirty business.
CBS also did the same thing with "Murder, She Wrote".
MikeLutton 02-21-2018, 01:54 AM fox did same with married with children as well
The Jeffersons closing credits (season 11, episode 24)
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SitcomsHeydayfan 07-30-2018, 04:40 PM Because the Jeffersons achieved such a major GOAL at the Beginning of the Series. They were able to move to a fancy neighborhood and George was a successful businessman so it was really nothing else for the Jeffersons to accomplish if you ask me. It's not that many sitcoms that begin a series with cast members accomplishing so much so early. Maybe moving to Hawaii and selling the cleaning stores could have been idea for a series Finale instead of a 4 part episode
Good point. Maybe the Jeffersons AND the Willises should've moved to Hawaii since they both decided to retire. Also to end on a happy note Lionel & Jenny should've gotten back together and they move to Japan so it's easy for them visit Hawaii. And Florence moves to Hawaii as well!
Charlie gets his own bar in Hawaii! Ralph gets a job as a doorman at a luxury building in Hawaii! LOL..I know it's silly but it's a sitcom not real life!
Sayonara should have been the 2 hour series finale.
I recently said elsewhere, that I personally consider "Sayonara" (the two part episode from the final season where Lionel and Jenny announce that they're getting a divorce (https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/things-about-the-jeffersons-you-didnt-like.1110319/post-91494877)) to be the defacto series finale. I was just thinking about the end of The Jeffersons (https://www.metv.com/lists/13-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-jeffersons) because the Grio (https://thegriotv.com/) channel just aired the actual (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PkZUBujawg) last episode (https://the-jeffersons.fandom.com/wiki/Season_11), "Red Robins" (https://the-jeffersons.fandom.com/wiki/Episode:Red_Robins). And next year will officially mark 40 years since (https://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+Jeffersons%22&sca_esv=271b3fc3b185c18a&biw=1600&bih=773&tbs=bkt%3As%2Ccdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F1985%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F31%2F1985&tbm=bks&sxsrf=ADLYWIJYIvNX8M-tzY5eFVO9ulBxchtueg%3A1732684214095&ei=tqlGZ-q4BefnwN4Popya2Ac&ved=0ahUKEwjq69rY3_uJAxXnM9AFHSKOBnsQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=%22The+Jeffersons%22&gs_lp=Eg1nd3Mtd2l6LWJvb2tzIhAiVGhlIEplZmZlcnNvbnMiMgUQIRirAjIFECEYqwJI4RNQjwRYyxFwAHgAkAEAmAGiAqABsxCqAQUwLjIuN7gBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6ACkQXCAgcQIRgKGKsCwgIEECEYCsICCBAAGIAEGKIEmAMAiAYBkgcFMC4xLjKgB58Z&sclient=gws-wiz-books) (July 2, 1985 was the original airdate (https://www.tvtango.com/listings/1985/07/02/boston_pops_fireworks_spectacular)) The Jeffersons was cancelled by CBS.
You’ve hit on the fundamental "problem" with 70s/80s sitcom architecture: the Premise-Driven vs. Character-Driven finale. As you noted, the Jeffersons already won the game in Episode 1, so there was no "mountain" left to climb.
Your breakdown of why a finale was unnecessary—and your choice for a "spiritual finale"—is fascinating for a few reasons:
The "Laundry is a Tough Town" Choice: You picked a perfect episode to serve as the end. It reinforces the "Tenacious George" archetype. If the series had ended there, it would have validated his entire journey: he didn't just "move on up" once; he stays up because of his grit and Louise’s support. The Jeffersons (Season 9) really was the last time the show felt like it had that grounded "essence."
The Florence Dilemma: You’re right that Marla Gibbs made Florence the ultimate "independent" character. Making her a wife would have neutralized her best weapon: her outsider's perspective on the Jeffersons' marriage. Even her short-lived spin-off, Checking In, kept her professional rather than domestic.
The "Commercial Immortality": Because there was no "The End" sign, George and Louise became cultural icons who exist in a perpetual state of success. They never "retired" or "faded away" in the audience's mind; they are still in that penthouse, arguing and loving each other, forever.
The "Red Robins" Incident: The actual final episode produced, "Red Robins," was a generic plot about George helping a girl scout troop. It was so inconsequential that it proves your point: the writers had completely shifted away from the "Jefferson Legacy" into "Standard Sitcom Plot #402."
Since you prefer the "No Finale" approach because it keeps the characters "alive," do you feel the same way about other long-running shows like All in the Family, or do you think Archie Bunker actually needed a definitive ending more than George did?
TVFactFan 01-13-2026, 01:09 AM You’ve hit on the fundamental "problem" with 70s/80s sitcom architecture: the Premise-Driven vs. Character-Driven finale. As you noted, the Jeffersons already won the game in Episode 1, so there was no "mountain" left to climb.
Your breakdown of why a finale was unnecessary—and your choice for a "spiritual finale"—is fascinating for a few reasons:
The "Laundry is a Tough Town" Choice: You picked a perfect episode to serve as the end. It reinforces the "Tenacious George" archetype. If the series had ended there, it would have validated his entire journey: he didn't just "move on up" once; he stays up because of his grit and Louise’s support. The Jeffersons (Season 9) really was the last time the show felt like it had that grounded "essence."
The Florence Dilemma: You’re right that Marla Gibbs made Florence the ultimate "independent" character. Making her a wife would have neutralized her best weapon: her outsider's perspective on the Jeffersons' marriage. Even her short-lived spin-off, Checking In, kept her professional rather than domestic.
The "Commercial Immortality": Because there was no "The End" sign, George and Louise became cultural icons who exist in a perpetual state of success. They never "retired" or "faded away" in the audience's mind; they are still in that penthouse, arguing and loving each other, forever.
The "Red Robins" Incident: The actual final episode produced, "Red Robins," was a generic plot about George helping a girl scout troop. It was so inconsequential that it proves your point: the writers had completely shifted away from the "Jefferson Legacy" into "Standard Sitcom Plot #402."
Since you prefer the "No Finale" approach because it keeps the characters "alive," do you feel the same way about other long-running shows like All in the Family, or do you think Archie Bunker actually needed a definitive ending more than George did?
Mike and Gloria moving to California was the perfect finale and since they came back after that I dont know how else you could have ended the series much like the Jeffersons
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