Michael [hXc]
04-21-2004, 02:24 PM
What do you think? I really don't know.
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View Full Version : Should teachers be able to hit their students? Michael [hXc] 04-21-2004, 02:24 PM What do you think? I really don't know. Janice 04-21-2004, 02:32 PM Only if the kids can hit them back. Chocoholic 04-21-2004, 02:47 PM While I admit I've sometimes felt the urge to slap certain people, I don't think anyone has the right to strike another person unless it's in self-defense. The last time I checked, hitting, punching, beating, etc. is considered assault and battery. My answer is no. Teachers should NOT be allowed to hit students and any teacher who does should be charged with assault. Jenya 04-21-2004, 02:56 PM Originally posted by Sideshow Kristen While I admit I've sometimes felt the urge to slap certain people, I don't think anyone has the right to strike another person unless it's in self-defense. The last time I checked, hitting, punching, beating, etc. is considered assault and battery. My answer is no. Teachers should NOT be allowed to hit students and any teacher who does should be charged with assault. I agree 100%. Nor should students get "The Strap" in school. If a student's behaviour is uncontrolable for any reason, than he or she should be removed from the school entirely. Period. Their parents will be responsible for any additional education the pupil requires. :) Jenya 04-21-2004, 03:19 PM Originally posted by Janice Only if the kids can hit them back. What would you do with an violent aggressive autistic child then? Would you still hit them if they obviously cannot be controlable? OU812 04-21-2004, 03:56 PM Originally posted by Jenya What would you do with an violent aggressive autistic child then? Would you still hit them if they obviously cannot be controlable? Only if they were a liberal from Montreal who knows how best America should be ran. Then I think "The Strap", "The Stick", "The Flagpole"...etc. should be used in these situations. *Pleasant Tomorrow* 04-21-2004, 03:59 PM Originally posted by OU812 Only if they were a liberal from Montreal who knows how best America should be ran. Then I think "The Strap", "The Stick", "The Flagpole"...etc. should be used in these situations. You're a jackass. And no...kids shouldn't be hit by anyone but their parents, and if that...not hard...just to get the point across. Jenya 04-21-2004, 04:00 PM Originally posted by OU812 Only if they were a liberal from Montreal who knows how best America should be ran. You can't answer the question can you? Is it because you enjoy acting like an as*hole on these message boards? Or is it that you are acting like a big baby because you're not allowed to post political topics here anymore. GROW UP LITTLE KID!! ;) Michael [hXc] 04-21-2004, 04:07 PM Originally posted by OU812 Only if they were a liberal from Montreal who knows how best America should be ran. Then I think "The Strap", "The Stick", "The Flagpole"...etc. should be used in these situations. You're acting like an as*hole. I think no, children should not be hit at school, unless absolutely necessary, in very very serious situations. If children are hit at school, they will be too afraid. It won't teach them anything. The only people who have that right is the child's parents. Janice 04-21-2004, 04:12 PM Originally posted by Jenya What would you do with an violent aggressive autistic child then? Would you still hit them if they obviously cannot be controlable? It was a joke. In other words, kids would never be allowed to hit back, nor should they, so of course it's not okay for teachers to hit kids. Nobody should be hitting anybody. Rhiannon 04-21-2004, 04:13 PM As much as I would like to see some teachers hit kids, I say no. Jenya 04-21-2004, 04:25 PM Originally posted by Janice It was a joke. In other words, kids would never be allowed to hit back, nor should they, so of course it's not okay for teachers to hit kids. Nobody should be hitting anybody. I didn't think you were joking. Sorry- that was my mistake. Being a teacher is a very big responsibility. And disciplining students is not easy. Many of them will try to challenge their teacher. I do believe a lot of students are hard to control. And I do beieve in the zero-tolerance policies in that are enforced in the majotity of schools these days. :) julian bozo 04-21-2004, 04:30 PM No , I do not think teachers should be allowed to hit kids. It could abuse and hurt them. Plus cause emotional damage.I also do not think kids should be allowed to hit teachers. Detention works just as well. Cashodeen 04-21-2004, 04:36 PM Originally posted by Janice Only if the kids can hit them back. Lol, good one. Thank goodness hitting kids in school was outlawed long ago. If it were to happen again, that would be tremendously horrible. Once at a schoolI went to, the secretary threw a ruler at a boy and hit him. That bitch didn't have any action taken against her. I couldn't believe it. But that was at a bad private school. Public wouldn't tolerate such bull****. No school should. Janice 04-21-2004, 04:44 PM I attended Catholic school for five years back in the 70s, and believe me, those nuns weren't the nicest people going. They would make kids hold out their hands, palms up, and hit them with the ruler. I'm sure it was worse in previous decades. If anyone ever hit a kid of mine, I would rip their hair out of their head. Maybe not, but my lawyer would rip the money out of their wallet, lol. Cashodeen 04-21-2004, 04:48 PM Originally posted by Janice I attended Catholic school for five years back in the 70s, and believe me, those nuns weren't the nicest people going. They would make kids hold out their hands, palms up, and hit them with the ruler. They must teach that in nun school (jk). My mom went to Catholic school in the 70s and the nuns there would do the same thing. I went to that same school for 2 years in the 90s, where that boy was hit with the ruler. I guess the school didn't get any better over the years with protecting the kids from abuse with rulers. Brian 04-21-2004, 05:57 PM Originally posted by OU812 Only if they were a liberal from Montreal who knows how best America should be ran. Go away. Brian 04-21-2004, 06:01 PM I am against hitting or spanking kids, whether they be parents or school officials. I agree with Janice. If someone hit my kids or laid a finger on them, they would be hearing from my lawyer. It was scary enough for me in elementary school when the principal yelled at me almost every time I was sent to his office, if he hit me, I would be scared to the point where I would not feel safe. And schools are supposed to be safe. Hollow 04-21-2004, 06:29 PM absolutely not. they have no right to physically discipline a child that isn't theirs. Blair_Warner02 04-21-2004, 06:42 PM It hasn't totally been outlawed some states including mine (Ohio) still allow it. Thank God I went to school in Michigan. Check out this article from familyeducation.com... Corporal Punishment in School Dennis Randall Is spanking a child for breaking school rules a useful or destructive practice? Parents and educators are sharply divided. Twenty-two states allow some form of corporal punishment while twenty-eight have banned the practice. Would you support a policy allowing physical punishment in your school? Thirty years ago, I was a student at Henry Clay Junior High School in Los Angeles, and I have vivid memories of being told to bend over and grab my ankles while a teacher administered three blows with a paddle. When I think back I can't remember why I was punished and the only thing it taught me was to loathe that teacher. If you live in a state where the practice is allowed, how is it working? Do you want to see the practice continue? If you live in a state where such punishment is banned, would you support its re-introduction into the classroom? Where the states stand on corporal punishment: Alabama--Legal Alaska--Illegal Arizona--Legal Arkansas--Legal California--Illegal Colorado--Legal Connecticut--Illegal Delaware--Illegal District of Columbia--N/A Florida--Legal Georgia--Legal Hawaii--Illegal Idaho--Legal Illinois--Illegal Indiana--Legal Iowa--Illegal Kansas--Legal Kentucky--Legal Louisiana--Legal Maine--Illegal Maryland--Illegal Massachusetts--Illegal Michigan--Illegal Minnesota--Illegal Mississippi--Legal Missouri--Legal Montana--Illegal Nebraska--Illegal Nevada--Illegal New Hampshire--Illegal New Jersey--Illegal New Mexico--Legal New York--Illegal North Carolina--Legal North Dakota--Illegal Ohio--Legal Oklahoma--Legal Oregon--Illegal Pennsylvania--Legal Rhode Island--Restricted* South Carolina--Legal South Dakota--Illegal Tennessee--Legal Texas--Legal Utah--Illegal Vermont--Illegal Virginia--Illegal Washington--Illegal West Virginia--Illegal Wisconsin--Illegal Wyoming--Legal * banned by every school board in the state PZelda 04-21-2004, 06:47 PM Yay! Illegal in ND! :D Anyway, on to my post...NO. Absolutely NOT. In my opinion, having detention after school where you have to help the janitors or perform community service would work. There was something about it in my old high school's school newspaper recently. OU812 04-21-2004, 07:14 PM Originally posted by Brian Go away. Lighten up. :rolleyes: AKA 04-21-2004, 07:20 PM Originally posted by OU812 Only if they were a liberal from Montreal who knows how best America should be ran. Then I think "The Strap", "The Stick", "The Flagpole"...etc. should be used in these situations. Wow. This ****ing ********* sure likes to start ****. Hey, OU812, go drink tequilla in Cabo and leave us alone. Mr. Television 04-21-2004, 07:28 PM I figured it would still be legal in NC. When I went to school there it was very common to paddle students without parents permission. Their was nothing that could be done. At the beginning of the year a rule booklet was brought home so the parents could read and it stated that teachers had a right to paddle students. Their was nowhere for parents to sign. That was just the way it was. I don't think teachers have a right to spank students. I believe parents do but only with the palm of their hand. Its nice to know that it is being outlawed in some states but it probably never will be outlawed in all of them. Brian 04-21-2004, 07:32 PM Originally posted by OU812 Lighten up. :rolleyes: I would but you insulted autistic people and I myself am an autistic, so I find it offensive. Brent88 04-21-2004, 07:59 PM Absolutely not. Only parents should spank their children. Rhiannon 04-21-2004, 08:14 PM Originally posted by Blair_Warner02 Where the states stand on corporal punishment: North Carolina--Legal [/i] hmmm.... Kazza 04-21-2004, 08:28 PM My answer is NO. My oldest daughter is in Kindergarten, and I had to fill out a form when the school year begins that either allows the teacher to physically punish MY child or take the child home with me and take care myself. I marked, NO of course; I would never let a child of mine be touched by a teacher! If I find out about it, I take care of the teacher myself:mad: PZelda 04-21-2004, 08:30 PM Originally posted by OU812 Lighten up. :rolleyes: You never know what kind of people are wandering around those boards. Watch your back, bub. :nonono: spunkygirl 04-21-2004, 10:09 PM OMG no! Nobody has the right to hit anyone, only in self defense. If more people kept there hands to themselves, then people could probably get along better :) I remember when I was in school, that they used to paddle students, that was when I was in elementary and Jr. High school, and that was almost 20 years ago :rolleyes: :( Thank god they can't do that anymore, it's degrading and humiliating to the student :mad: Cashodeen 04-22-2004, 01:06 AM Originally posted by Blair_Warner02 It hasn't totally been outlawed some states including mine (Ohio) still allow it. Thank God I went to school in Michigan. Wow, that surprises me. I thought it had been illegal everywhere for some time. I guess I live in a bubble here in the west, where its illegal in the three western states. I never hear about it being done anywhere, which is weird. Hmm, where have I been? (In nice ol' Washington, where it is ILL E GAL. ;)) dandelion wine 04-22-2004, 01:12 AM There were plenty of kids I remember from school (especially high school) who deserved a good smack upside the head, but no I don't believe teachers should be allowed to 'hit' their students. Microprosa 04-22-2004, 04:19 AM No. GeeBee 04-22-2004, 04:52 AM Originally posted by Jen1989 Teachers should not hit students. I've never seen a teacher hit a student. The worst thing I saw was a teacher in sixth grade staple a pencil to a boy's hand. He was a very bad kid. He caused problems every day, and after a while the teacher started automatically sending him to the principal's office at the beginning of class. It got to the point that the boy started going to the office without being told. The boy was constantly, being disruptive and teasing other kids to no end. One day the teacher finally had enough of him. Yes, it was very wrong of the teacher to do what he did, but it was so funny. One of those situations where you had to be there. It just looked so ridiculous that the teacher was doing it. A couple of the students were laughing. No action was taken against the teacher. My guess is because the parents knew how bad the boy was. I'll never forget it. The teacher picked up a stapler, and a pencil, took the boy's and stapled the pencil to his hand I knew someone would end up finally taking revenge on the boy, granted it could have been handled in a better way. Obviously, you had to be there because from where I stand, that's not funny at all. If you mean that she literally stapled it and broke his skin, caused him to bleed, and be in pain, it was worse than hitting. It was full fledged child abuse. I don't care what the child was doing. The teacher was a cold calculating abuser and his parents were negligent for not taking any action against her. Then again, if they were the kind of parents who truly cared about their child, he probably wouldn't have been acting out the way he was. I am a social worker and a mandated reporter. You can rest assured that in my line of work, any incidents like that will be reported straight to Child Protective Services and/or the Child Abuse Division of the police department. Then again, even if I wasn't a mandated reporter, I would report something like that. OU812 04-22-2004, 09:39 AM Originally posted by Miss Vicki You never know what kind of people are wandering around those boards. Watch your back, bub. :nonono: Uh...yea. Whatever.:rolleyes: OU812 04-22-2004, 09:46 AM Originally posted by AKA Wow. This ****ing ********* sure likes to start ****. Hey, OU812, go drink tequilla in Cabo and leave us alone. Sounds like a good idea!!! Why don't you come and join me. We'd have a hell of a time!! Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 09:59 AM OU812, you're a jackass PZelda 04-22-2004, 10:20 AM Originally posted by OU812 Uh...yea. Whatever.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: right back at you Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 10:43 AM Originally posted by OU812 Uh...yea. Whatever.:rolleyes: Go away!:goaway: :yousuck: :crysoup: Pentimento 04-22-2004, 11:39 AM Originally posted by Janice I attended Catholic school for five years back in the 70s, and believe me, those nuns weren't the nicest people going. They would make kids hold out their hands, palms up, and hit them with the ruler. I'm sure it was worse in previous decades. If anyone ever hit a kid of mine, I would rip their hair out of their head. Maybe not, but my lawyer would rip the money out of their wallet, lol. Five years? Try twelve ('67-'79). You're right about it being worse in the decades prior to Vatican II and the supposedly kinder, gentler Catholicism, but clearly it was years before the older nuns got the memo. A few of the ones who taught me seemed to really enjoy thrashing the troublemakers, but it never did a thing toward changing bad behavior. If anything, it only caused the problems to escalate. I guess I was lucky -- I never got hit, and there were actually a couple of nuns who seemed to go out of their way to try to be nice to me. That was just weird. To this day, I harbor some wildly incongruous feelings about the women in black. hawaii five-o 04-22-2004, 01:04 PM When I was in school there was a teacher who used to grab students by the ear so they would comply. I also had some teachers who would yell at you and call you names. I think words can be just as damaging as fists. OU812 04-22-2004, 01:06 PM Originally posted by BeaverFan5 OU812, you're a jackass You're a little young to be using such nasty words. Mommy is gonna wash your mouth out with soap if you keep it up. Go play with your Power Rangers. Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 01:15 PM Originally posted by hawaii five-o When I was in school there was a teacher who used to grab students by the ear so they would comply. I also had some teachers who would yell at you and call you names. I think words can be just as damaging as fists. On LITB, Wally and Beaver said that it hurt more when Ward said they were stupid than when he hit them. Words can be more harmful than fists. Oh, and to OU812, I am much more mature than you and I know how to act sophisticated, unlike you. How old are you, 10? Plus, I hate Power Rangers! :o Jenya 04-22-2004, 02:34 PM Originally posted by OU812 You're a little young to be using such nasty words. Mommy is gonna wash your mouth out with soap if you keep it up. Go play with your Power Rangers. You are the one who is the sh*t disturber on this thread, OU812. What are you intentions? Are you trying to get this thread locked because you like to start arguements with everybody else? I have no clue why YOU keep bringing the Liberal/Conservitave excuse in your posts. It seems to me that you are a little peeved because your not allowed to post political discussions on these messageboards. Well TOUGH!! You can't seem to get that idea out of your head. If you want to know why political topics are not allowed here, then take your busy time to read the STICKY thread both Janice and TJ posted on the top of this form. If you still can't accept the rules here, OU812, then you are posting on the wrong messageboards. Grow up KID! And stop playing games with all of us. There is no need to lock this thread because of you. If you want my opinion to solve this problem, maybe the person who is causing the problem on this thread should be removed from posting on this website altogether. ;) Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 02:36 PM Jenya, it isn't my fault for starting this thread, is it? I was looking for people's opinions. OU812 is always picking fights and being a bigot. Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 02:45 PM Originally posted by Jenya You are the one who is the sh*t disturber on this thread, OU812. What are you intentions? Are you trying to get this thread locked because you like to start arguements with everybody else? I have no clue why YOU keep bringing the Liberal/Conservitave excuse in your posts. It seems to me that you are a little peeved because your not allowed to post political discussions on these messageboards. Well TOUGH!! You can't seem to get that idea out of your head. If you want to know why political topics are not allowed here, then take your busy time to read the STICKY thread both Janice and TJ posted on the top of this form. If you still can't accept the rules here, OU812, then you are posting on the wrong messageboards. Grow up KID! And stop playing games with all of us. There is no need to lock this thread because of you. If you want my opinion to solve this problem, maybe the person who is causing the problem on this thread should be removed from posting on this website altogether. ;) Jenya is right. It's people like you, OU812 who make this place miserable. You can see how much it is bothering people and you won't stop. All of this bigotry and criticism has got to stop or I will report you to TJ. Jenya 04-22-2004, 02:53 PM Originally posted by BeaverFan5 Jenya, it isn't my fault for starting this thread, is it? I was looking for people's opinions. OU812 is always picking fights and being a bigot. Nope. You ARE asking for all of our opinions on the subject you origionally posted, and we responded. OU812 is just looking for an arguement because he can't discuss his politics here. Too bad for him because, this is a Chit-Chat board for general discussion. If OU812 wants to discuss nothing but politics, then he can go to any one of these boards (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&postid=1619444#post1619444) TJ posted in the Politics form archive. If he doesn't like the rules here, than too bad for him. :) Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 02:59 PM Besides what he did, I got everyone's opinion on the topic like I wanted. People shouldn't be able to post anything in a thread if it isn't about the original topic. Jenya 04-22-2004, 03:37 PM Originally posted by BeaverFan5 Besides what he did, I got everyone's opinion on the topic like I wanted. People shouldn't be able to post anything in a thread if it isn't about the original topic. Well that's good. ;) I don't mind general news topics. Or even big news political topics. But when your only intention to start a political topic, is start an arguement with everybody else, than I don't agree with that at all. That is generally OU812's reason. In anycase, there is no reason to keep going on about this topic. I hope OU812 gets the general message on this subject. :) Ags2000 04-22-2004, 03:47 PM Originally posted by julian bozo No , I do not think teachers should be allowed to hit kids. It could abuse and hurt them. Plus cause emotional damage.I also do not think kids should be allowed to hit teachers. Detention works just as well. Detention doesn't always work. There are some kids in my moms class that just need some good old fashioned discipline from somebody (preferably their parents) because detention, SAC, and even suspension does nothing to them. They could care less about that. I don't think teachers should be able to hit their students. However I do believe that children should be spanked IF THE SITUATION IS WARRANTED. D GeeBee 04-22-2004, 04:15 PM Originally posted by Jen1989 That happened 12 years ago. It wasn't reported as child abuse. It was wrong of the teacher, but the stuudent's behavior did improvie after that. I think if the student would have been put in an alternative school, or something like that, then it wouldn't have come down to that, but what happened, happened. I don't remember if there were alternative schools back then or not, it was during the 1991-1992 school year. You can't really blame the students for laughing, while it wasn't right, they were just kids, and the kid that had been causing so many problems finally had his day of reckoning. No one can tolerate kids like that forever. Eventually, they have to be dealt with, but the way he was dealt with wasn't the best approach. It may have not been reported as child abuse, but it WAS child abuse. Period. The teacher was an abuser and a criminal. To say that it "wasn't the best approach" is a gross understatement. You say that the student's behavior "improved" after that. How do you know? Did you only see him in the classroom? Do you know how he did at home and how he developed throughout life? For all we know, he may have grown up to be as big a sadist as that teacher. By the early 90's, mandatory reporting laws for educators were well in place, so any school official who had knowledge of this incident and did not report it was also a criminal and an accessory to the abuse. Once again, I would report such a situation like that to the authorities with PLEASURE. I've certainly reported less severe types of abuse in the past. monni d 04-22-2004, 04:23 PM Originally posted by Brent88 Absolutely not. Only parents should spank their children. dude? no one should spank their children GeeBee 04-22-2004, 04:23 PM Originally posted by Ags2000 Detention doesn't always work. For that matter, spanking doesn't always work. Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 04:30 PM I personally think teachers should punish, but not physically. A trip to the principals or being suspended should do the trick. GeeBee 04-22-2004, 04:33 PM Originally posted by monni d dude? no one should spank their children I agree. Unfortunately, most of us live in a culture that would not agree. For some strange reason, murderers, rapists, child molesters, arsonists, kidnappers, and every other group of violent criminals out there have more rights than children when it comes to being hit . While many adults certainly get beaten and hurt, children are the ONLY American citizens who can be LEGALLY hit. It's such a schizophrenic society too. We have some of the strictest laws in our society to protect children. In my state (perhaps every state), it is illegal to leave marks on your child, yet it is legal to spank them with belts, brushes, and any other object along with your hand. Does anyone else see something totally nuts about society? GeeBee 04-22-2004, 04:37 PM Originally posted by Jen1989 I saw his behavior in the classroom improve. As far as his behavior at home, I don't know. I don't know how he has developed since in life. I'm not condoning the action. It was wrong. I just think the student should have been dealt with long before that incident. Then perhaps that wouldn't have had to have happened. I think instead, he should have been put in a classroom for behavioral students. That way he wouldn't have been able to torment other students and be disruptive. While the action taken against him certaining isn't acceptable, I think his behavior was tolerated way too much. He was out of control, and I guess the teacher felt like no one else was going to correct his behavior, so he took it upon himself to do so, granted his approach was strange to say the least. "Strange" is saying the least. I like to call something what it is: It was child abuse and the teacher was an abuser. Period. Everything else becomes irrelevant when someone commits a crime like he did. Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 04:38 PM GeeBee, you're right. So are you saying that children legally can be hit, but you would be in trouble for hitting a criminal? That's so terrible. MandieR1980 04-22-2004, 04:40 PM If I had kids and someone else hit them I would totally go ape on their ass! Nobody has a right to touch my child but me and I wouldn't hit them to begin with! I belive in using words as weapons not being physical it only creates emotional problems for the child. There are plently of other ways to punish a child. OU812 04-22-2004, 04:51 PM How many of you actually have kids??? If you don't have any then you will have a hard tme understanding when it's alright to spank and when it is not. You can spank a kid and still love them. Teachers should not do it but a parent can as long as it does not get out of control. Once all you Political Correct followers have kids maybe you'll understand. P.S. Moderator Jenya-kiss my arse.:wave: Hey BeaverBoy-I'm old enough to be yer daddy twice over. MandieR1980 04-22-2004, 04:55 PM Originally posted by OU812 How many of you actually have kids??? If you don't have any then you will have a hard tme understanding when it's alright to spank and when it is not. You can spank a kid and still love them. Teachers should not do it but a parent can as long as it does not get out of control. Once all you Political Correct followers have kids maybe you'll understand. P.S. Moderator Jenya-kiss my arse.:wave: I don't have kids but it's easy to understand why hitting is wrong. I was beaten with a belt by my dad ALOT growing up and alot of times for little things and it really ruined our relationship and now that he moved out 4 years ago we are just now getting closer. I could never do that to my children I'd want to be close to them all the time I couldn't risk it by being violent. For a long time I really doubted my dad's love for me and I really thought he hated my guts and didn't want kids, I'd never want my kids to feel that. Mr. Television 04-22-2004, 04:58 PM Originally posted by MandieR1980 I don't have kids but it's easy to understand why hitting is wrong. I was beaten with a belt by my dad ALOT growing up and alot of times for little things and it really ruined our relationship and now that he moved out 4 years ago we are just now getting closer. I could never do that to my children I'd want to be close to them all the time I couldn't risk it by being violent. For a long time I really doubted my dad's love for me and I really thought he hated my guts and didn't want kids, I'd never want my kids to feel that. I was threatened with being hit by a belt when I was young. I never was but I knew kids who were. Thats the way it used to be done. I don't agree with hitting anyone with any object. Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 05:00 PM The only time spanking is alright is just a little tap on the bottom, nothing more, nothing less. I definitely agree with MandieR1980, hitting with belts is NOT acceptable. It is considered child abuse. I never was close with my father because he kicked and hit me when I was wrong. I never learned, I just learned to resent him. A tap on the bottom, with ONLY a hand is alright. Jenya 04-22-2004, 05:10 PM Originally posted by OU812 How many of you actually have kids??? P.S. Moderator Jenya-kiss my arse.:wave: I already know you don't have any kids. You're nothing more than a sh*t disturber- Plan and simple. So don't bring you problems to this thread. This thread didn't ask if any of us if we had any kids. It asked us if TEACHERS should be allowed to spank or hit their students. Obviously, you don't want to bother responding to the original topic. You wanted to use your political horsesh*t with your responses, and start a fight. That was what pissed us off. You couldn't care less if it follows the rules or not. You just want to go out of your way to start a dumb and useless fight. Keep it up, OU812, and you WILL be reported. ;) Michael [hXc] 04-22-2004, 05:18 PM Stop the snide remarks, OU812, or I'll be the first to report you. Cashodeen 04-22-2004, 05:35 PM Originally posted by OU812 How many of you actually have kids??? If you don't have any then you will have a hard tme understanding when it's alright to spank and when it is not. You can spank a kid and still love them. Teachers should not do it but a parent can as long as it does not get out of control. Once all you Political Correct followers have kids maybe you'll understand. P.S. Moderator Jenya-kiss my arse.:wave: Hey BeaverBoy-I'm old enough to be yer daddy twice over. I don't need to have kids to understand about spanking. What do you think of the ones that don't have kids and agree with spanking? Oh I see... it's not about experience. It's about coming to the same agreement AS YOU on the subject. So you hope all of us that "don't have it together yet" will eventually have children, and think like you. It's never going to happen. When I have kids, my feelings on spanking won't change. I don't do things to be politcally correct either, just for the sake of being able to say I am politcally correct. I happen to form my own opinions all by myself. And by the way, I hope you will never be anyone's "daddy." :bye: Hollow 04-22-2004, 06:37 PM Originally posted by Jenya You are the one who is the sh*t disturber on this thread, OU812. What are you intentions? Are you trying to get this thread locked because you like to start arguements with everybody else? I have no clue why YOU keep bringing the Liberal/Conservitave excuse in your posts. It seems to me that you are a little peeved because your not allowed to post political discussions on these messageboards. Well TOUGH!! You can't seem to get that idea out of your head. If you want to know why political topics are not allowed here, then take your busy time to read the STICKY thread both Janice and TJ posted on the top of this form. If you still can't accept the rules here, OU812, then you are posting on the wrong messageboards. Grow up KID! And stop playing games with all of us. There is no need to lock this thread because of you. If you want my opinion to solve this problem, maybe the person who is causing the problem on this thread should be removed from posting on this website altogether. ;) YOU ARE MY HERO. I couldn't have said it better. monni d 04-22-2004, 06:39 PM Originally posted by BeaverFan5 The only time spanking is alright is just a little tap on the bottom, nothing more, nothing less. I definitely agree with MandieR1980, hitting with belts is NOT acceptable. It is considered child abuse. I never was close with my father because he kicked and hit me when I was wrong. I never learned, I just learned to resent him. A tap on the bottom, with ONLY a hand is alright. thats horrible :( im really sorry u had to go through that. OU812 04-22-2004, 06:45 PM Originally posted by Jenya I already know you don't have any kids. You're nothing more than a sh*t disturber- Plan and simple. So don't bring you problems to this thread. This thread didn't ask if any of us if we had any kids. It asked us if TEACHERS should be allowed to spank or hit their students. Obviously, you don't want to bother responding to the original topic. You wanted to use your political horsesh*t with your responses, and start a fight. That was what pissed us off. You couldn't care less if it follows the rules or not. You just want to go out of your way to start a dumb and useless fight. Keep it up, OU812, and you WILL be reported. ;) Hey Ms. Lib-go back and read what I wrote. I did address the original topic. "Teachers should not hit kids!!!" My other statement was because a lot of you PCers on here are saying that you will never spank your kid. You can say that all you want until you have kids and finally realize that a good swat on the butt will get a kid in line quicker and better that "Oh Jimmy, if you do that again(after the thousandth time of doing it) you are going into time-out". And I do have kids. 2 great boys. About as old as BeaverBoy(except with out the potty mouth). Have they been spanked? Yes. Do they get spanked often? No. Why? Because they understand what will get them a spanken. My wife has a harder time with them because she hasn't spanked them. They know that they can get away with alot more with her than me. I wish I could be around when all you goody-two shoes finally have kids. I would be laughing my arse off when you finally realize what it's like to have kids. And as for you Ms. Lib Jenya-report me all you want. I'm not doin' a thing wrong. You just don't like anyone that doesn't think YOUR way. :wave: OU812 04-22-2004, 06:46 PM Originally posted by safety pin YOU ARE MY HERO. I couldn't have said it better. And I thought you and me were becoming friends. PZelda 04-22-2004, 07:01 PM Originally posted by OU812 Hey Ms. Lib-go back and read what I wrote. I did address the original topic. "Teachers should not hit kids!!!" My other statement was because a lot of you PCers on here are saying that you will never spank your kid. You can say that all you want until you have kids and finally realize that a good swat on the butt will get a kid in line quicker and better that "Oh Jimmy, if you do that again(after the thousandth time of doing it) you are going into time-out". And I do have kids. 2 great boys. About as old as BeaverBoy(except with out the potty mouth). Have they been spanked? Yes. Do they get spanked often? No. Why? Because they understand what will get them a spanken. My wife has a harder time with them because she hasn't spanked them. They know that they can get away with alot more with her than me. I wish I could be around when all you goody-two shoes finally have kids. I would be laughing my arse off when you finally realize what it's like to have kids. And as for you Ms. Lib Jenya-report me all you want. I'm not doin' a thing wrong. You just don't like anyone that doesn't think YOUR way. :wave: How do you know if your kids for sure don't have potty mouths? *Pleasant Tomorrow* 04-22-2004, 07:14 PM Originally posted by OU812 And as for you Ms. Lib Jenya-report me all you want. I'm not doin' a thing wrong. You just don't like anyone that doesn't think YOUR way. :wave: Or is it you who doesn't like things your way? Stop starting ****. I thought you were a mature adult? :lol: *Pleasant Tomorrow* 04-22-2004, 07:15 PM Originally posted by Miss Vicki How do you know if your kids for sure don't have potty mouths? He probably doesn't. All kids swear at one time or another. Jenya 04-22-2004, 07:24 PM Originally posted by OU812 Hey Ms. Lib-go back and read what I wrote. I did address the original topic. "Teachers should not hit kids!!!" My other statement was because a lot of you PCers on here are saying that you will never spank your kid. You can say that all you want until you have kids and finally realize that a good swat on the butt will get a kid in line quicker and better that "Oh Jimmy, if you do that again(after the thousandth time of doing it) you are going into time-out". And I do have kids. 2 great boys. About as old as BeaverBoy(except with out the potty mouth). Have they been spanked? Yes. Do they get spanked often? No. Why? Because they understand what will get them a spanken. My wife has a harder time with them because she hasn't spanked them. They know that they can get away with alot more with her than me. I wish I could be around when all you goody-two shoes finally have kids. I would be laughing my arse off when you finally realize what it's like to have kids. And as for you Ms. Lib Jenya-report me all you want. I'm not doin' a thing wrong. You just don't like anyone that doesn't think YOUR way. :wave: You can't get politics out of your head, can you? You have nothing better to talk about 24 hours a day. You're like a little 5 year old kid who can't get their favorite candy. You can't answer a simple topic question without bringing in your stupid politics bullsh*t, regardless of what the question is. You proved to all of us how you decide to conduct your behaviour. You can't even apoligize to Brian over your idiotic autistic comment you made to me and him. And I can expect that you won't apoligize to him anytime soon either. Too bad you can't use common sense to follow basic rules and requests on these messageboards. It shows us all what your maturity level really is. ;) :p Brian 04-22-2004, 07:33 PM Originally posted by Jenya You can't get politics out of your head, can you? You have nothing better to talk about 24 hours a day. You're like a little 5 year old kid who can't get their favorite candy. You can't answer a simple topic question without bringing in your stupid politics bullsh*t, regardless of what the question is. You proved to all of us how you decide to conduct your behaviour. You can't even apoligize to Brian over your idiotic autistic comment you made to me and him. And I can expect that you won't apoligize to him anytime soon either. Too bad you can't use common sense to follow basic rules and requests on these messageboards. It shows us all what your maturity level really is. ;) :p Thanks for standing up for me. I don't care if someone makes fun of me for being liberal but I draw the line when it comes to making fun of me because I'm autistic or making disparaging comments about autistics. Being liberal is a choice. Being autistic or having a mental disorder isn't. It's something you are born with. And OU812, don't think you will be banned. You're asking for it. SO has zero tolerance for troublemakers and that's what you are. And don't bother re-registering when you do get banned because we have ways of knowing who you are no matter what. PZelda 04-22-2004, 07:36 PM Originally posted by *A TV People* He probably doesn't. All kids swear at one time or another. :nod: and with the media the way it is those days...It's VERY hard to avoid swearing. ohno: Plus his sons have friends at school to teach them bad words;) I Love Carol Burnett! 04-22-2004, 07:41 PM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Ags2000 04-22-2004, 11:36 PM Originally posted by GeeBee For that matter, spanking doesn't always work. Yeah I know...it depends on the kid. My niece the only thing that gets through to her is a spanking, my nephew is different...a timeout works for him great. D OU812 04-23-2004, 01:50 AM Originally posted by Brian Thanks for standing up for me. I don't care if someone makes fun of me for being liberal but I draw the line when it comes to making fun of me because I'm autistic or making disparaging comments about autistics. Being liberal is a choice. Being autistic or having a mental disorder isn't. It's something you are born with. And OU812, don't think you will be banned. You're asking for it. SO has zero tolerance for troublemakers and that's what you are. And don't bother re-registering when you do get banned because we have ways of knowing who you are no matter what. Get a life Brian. Everyone gets made fun of sooner or later. Either get over it or go around pissed off all day long. Was I making fun of you personaly?? Did I say "Brain the autistic??" No. I made a comment to Jenya. Not you. If you are planning on standing up for all of the autistic people in the world you got a hell of a fight on your hands. "And don't bother re-registering when you do get banned because we have ways of knowing who you are no matter what." Uhhh...Whatever, tough guy. :rolleyes: OU812 04-23-2004, 01:52 AM Originally posted by Jenya You can't get politics out of your head, can you? You have nothing better to talk about 24 hours a day. You're like a little 5 year old kid who can't get their favorite candy. You can't answer a simple topic question without bringing in your stupid politics bullsh*t, regardless of what the question is. You proved to all of us how you decide to conduct your behaviour. You can't even apoligize to Brian over your idiotic autistic comment you made to me and him. And I can expect that you won't apoligize to him anytime soon either. Too bad you can't use common sense to follow basic rules and requests on these messageboards. It shows us all what your maturity level really is. ;) :p Thank you.:wave: Hollow 04-23-2004, 03:11 AM Originally posted by OU812 And I thought you and me were becoming friends. if everything you did is over with, then i guess it's all ok. Michael [hXc] 04-23-2004, 08:54 AM Originally posted by OU812 Hey Ms. Lib-go back and read what I wrote. I did address the original topic. "Teachers should not hit kids!!!" My other statement was because a lot of you PCers on here are saying that you will never spank your kid. You can say that all you want until you have kids and finally realize that a good swat on the butt will get a kid in line quicker and better that "Oh Jimmy, if you do that again(after the thousandth time of doing it) you are going into time-out". And I do have kids. 2 great boys. About as old as BeaverBoy(except with out the potty mouth). Have they been spanked? Yes. Do they get spanked often? No. Why? Because they understand what will get them a spanken. My wife has a harder time with them because she hasn't spanked them. They know that they can get away with alot more with her than me. I wish I could be around when all you goody-two shoes finally have kids. I would be laughing my arse off when you finally realize what it's like to have kids. And as for you Ms. Lib Jenya-report me all you want. I'm not doin' a thing wrong. You just don't like anyone that doesn't think YOUR way. :wave: YOU STARTED THIS! EVERYTHING WAS FINE UNTIL YOU CAME AND MESSED UP MY THREAD WITH YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS! YOU ASKED FOR IT, NOT ME! IF YOU GET BANNED, DON'T COME BACK OR WE WILL KNOW WHO YOU ARE! BESIDES, I DON'T HAVE A POTTY MOUTH! YOU WERE THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR IT! PZelda 04-23-2004, 09:15 AM Originally posted by OU812 Get a life Brian. Everyone gets made fun of sooner or later. Either get over it or go around pissed off all day long. Was I making fun of you personaly?? Did I say "Brain the autistic??" No. I made a comment to Jenya. Not you. If you are planning on standing up for all of the autistic people in the world you got a hell of a fight on your hands. "And don't bother re-registering when you do get banned because we have ways of knowing who you are no matter what." Uhhh...Whatever, tough guy. :rolleyes: Jeez. What's your problem? You're REALLY acting like something crawled up your ass and died, and now you can't get it out. :rolleyes: Michael [hXc] 04-23-2004, 09:25 AM OU812, you really need to be banned permanently. How old are you anyway? If you are old enough to be my dad, you are acting like a bratty child who didn't get what he wants. Thank goodness you aren't my "daddy".:rolleyes: BlueEyes 04-23-2004, 09:42 AM I don't think teachers should spank or hit students. Yes they need to take proper discipline/punishment. I don't have anything against parents spanking their kids for discipline, as long as it's just hard enough to get the point across -- nothing more. I was spanked when I was younger, and I got the point and tried not to do what caused me to get the spanking again. A lot of people seem to think "If I spank my kids, they'll think they don't love me." Well, a lot of kids who get spanked know it's all in love and there's a reason. They'll associate the thing they did with the spanking and won't do it again. Parents who love their kids WILL discipline. hawaii five-o 04-23-2004, 12:12 PM Originally posted by I Love Carol Burnett! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I agree 100%. *MIBabe03* 04-23-2004, 01:56 PM Originally posted by hawaii five-o I agree 100%. Ditto. It really does depend on the child. I was one of those kids that would be spanked by my parents, and I would laugh. My parents learned early on to take away the TV, and that was enough to get me to stop doing whatever I was doing that was wrong. G-Force Glockstar 04-23-2004, 10:41 PM Originally posted by Janice Only if the kids can hit them back. I agree! G-Force Glockstar 04-23-2004, 10:43 PM This one lady from my Mom's work told me that a long time ago when she was a younger girl, her teacher pulled a boy by his ear! OWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!! Gosh, that's so mean! I'm just thankful teachers aren't allowed to do that anymore! Mr. Television 04-23-2004, 11:08 PM Originally posted by FullHouseFan8795 This one lady from my Mom's work told me that a long time ago when she was a younger girl, her teacher pulled a boy by his ear! OWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!! Gosh, that's so mean! I'm just thankful teachers aren't allowed to do that anymore! My Grandmother once told me that her teacher hit her knuckles with a ruler and pulled her hair. G-Force Glockstar 04-23-2004, 11:11 PM Originally posted by mr roper My Grandmother once told me that her teacher hit her knuckles with a ruler and pulled her hair. I feel bad for her too....I feel bad for all the kids who have been mistreated unkindly by mean teachers. smbrown95 11-14-2005, 04:23 PM I am sorry but I have to disagree about this. Yes I aboslutly think its ok for teachers to hit kids actually I don'tthink they should hit them cuase that wont teach them anything but the teachers should be able to slap them as hard as they like. Even slap them in the face cause then they wont go being saucy or bad anymore right. So yes its ok for teachers to Slap kids right across there face. The kids deserves to be slapped by teachers if they are bad. \but the kids will not have a right to slap the teachers and if the kids do try to the slap the teachers then the teachers should have right to slap them back even harder then the first time. EmoJoe 11-14-2005, 04:34 PM NO. There are better ways to solve problems. But this thread is over a year old- why was it bumped up? MsOrange 11-14-2005, 04:35 PM times have changed... and there are too many psychos out there that are allowed to teach. Yea, if a teacher was smart enough to know that all you could do was a slap on the hand, or something, then I wouldn't see a problem with it. But we live in a way too politically correct world... and plus, you know that the min. this was allowed some physco teacher would end up beating a child within an inch of their life because they said "shut up" or something dumb. So, I vote no, because some things just have to be taken care of at home. side note... this thread is old ???? EmoJoe 11-14-2005, 04:36 PM side note... this thread is old ???? Yeah look at the first six pages- they're all from 2004 smbrown95 11-14-2005, 04:37 PM OMG no! Nobody has the right to hit anyone, only in self defense. If more people kept there hands to themselves, then people could probably get along better :) I remember when I was in school, that they used to paddle students, that was when I was in elementary and Jr. High school, and that was almost 20 years ago :rolleyes: :( Thank god they can't do that anymore, it's degrading and humiliating to the student :mad: you people are so wrong. In my opion hitting a student wont help students learn but slaping a student will make them smarten up. So yes teachers should be able to slap students and they sholud be able to slap them right across the face because detention wont make a student become better cuase all u do is sit down doing nothing trust me I should no. Teachjers should be able to slap students right across the face jsut for not having homework done and for not listening. Trust me getting detention for not having homework dont don't tell studetns nothing because I ahd detention last eyar for not having my homework done and I didn't learn from that. So my thing is go right ahead teachers slap the students as hard as you like and if they cry or somehting when the teachers slap them then the teachers should slap them even harder. If teachers was allowed to slap students even for being saucy jsut once I would be slapped by teachers like at least 3 times a week but thats ok. Yes teachers yoiu can slap a student. EmoJoe 11-14-2005, 04:40 PM you people are so wrong. In my opion hitting a student wont help students learn but slaping a student will make them smarten up. So yes teachers should be able to slap students and they sholud be able to slap them right across the face because detention wont make a student become better cuase all u do is sit down doing nothing trust me I should no. Teachjers should be able to slap students right across the face jsut for not having homework done and for not listening. Trust me getting detention for not having homework dont don't tell studetns nothing because I ahd detention last eyar for not having my homework done and I didn't learn from that. So my thing is go right ahead teachers slap the students as hard as you like and if they cry or somehting when the teachers slap them then the teachers should slap them even harder. If teachers was allowed to slap students even for being saucy jsut once I would be slapped by teachers like at least 3 times a week but thats ok. Yes teachers yoiu can slap a student. What's the difference between "hitting" and "slapping"? Superstar 11-14-2005, 04:42 PM you people are so wrong. In my opion hitting a student wont help students learn but slaping a student will make them smarten up. So yes teachers should be able to slap students and they sholud be able to slap them right across the face because detention wont make a student become better cuase all u do is sit down doing nothing trust me I should no. Teachjers should be able to slap students right across the face jsut for not having homework done and for not listening. Trust me getting detention for not having homework dont don't tell studetns nothing because I ahd detention last eyar for not having my homework done and I didn't learn from that. So my thing is go right ahead teachers slap the students as hard as you like and if they cry or somehting when the teachers slap them then the teachers should slap them even harder. If teachers was allowed to slap students even for being saucy jsut once I would be slapped by teachers like at least 3 times a week but thats ok. Yes teachers yoiu can slap a student. its an opinion. An opinion can't be wrong. And no, I don't think teahcers should be able to hit students. You shouldn't be afraid of a teacher hitting you IMO. MsOrange 11-14-2005, 04:44 PM new people are allowed to read the newer posts MsOrange 11-14-2005, 04:45 PM you people are so wrong. In my opion hitting a student wont help students learn but slaping a student will make them smarten up. So yes teachers should be able to slap students and they sholud be able to slap them right across the face because detention wont make a student become better cuase all u do is sit down doing nothing trust me I should no. Teachjers should be able to slap students right across the face jsut for not having homework done and for not listening. Trust me getting detention for not having homework dont don't tell studetns nothing because I ahd detention last eyar for not having my homework done and I didn't learn from that. So my thing is go right ahead teachers slap the students as hard as you like and if they cry or somehting when the teachers slap them then the teachers should slap them even harder. If teachers was allowed to slap students even for being saucy jsut once I would be slapped by teachers like at least 3 times a week but thats ok. Yes teachers yoiu can slap a student. could it be your English homework that you didn't get done? gilligan fanatic 11-14-2005, 04:45 PM Nope Superstar 11-14-2005, 04:47 PM could it be your English homework that you didn't get done? :brent Southern Hellraiser 11-14-2005, 04:49 PM No The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 04:54 PM I don't see why a teacher should hit a child. I came from the age of paddles where I was beaten day in and day out all through grade school. Not once was it for being bad, always because I didn't do my homework. They never once asked me if I was having a problem understanding the work, they just said "go wait ouside the door for me" which imediately terrified me to tears. They didn't have a name for ADD at the time (that came around just after I moved onto junior high), they just called it lazy:rolleyes: I remember in the third grade my teacher put me aginst the wall outside all year to watch the other kids have recess ( while the other kids laughed at me, cause I could join them ) just because I couldn't complete 100 multiplication problems in 5 minutes.....I guess what I'm trying to say is if you give a teacher that kind of power, there IS going to be abuse! I'm living proof of that.:( rusyd 11-14-2005, 05:01 PM I was taught in a Catholic School where the teachers were allowed to hit the students and they (most of them) took advantage of it. There was the paddle, ruler or they used their hands and slapped you or poked you. We lived in fear of some of these teachers. Teachers should not be able to hit their students, but students need to be taught respect for adults and that begins at home. G-Force Glockstar 11-14-2005, 05:13 PM What's the difference between "hitting" and "slapping"? I don't really think there is a difference..... Anyway any teacher who hits a student is a jerk, no matter what the circumstances are.....unless maybe the student really kicks the teacher then the teacher could maybe just grab the students arm or something.... Brian Damage 11-14-2005, 05:16 PM Hell No Mr. Television 11-14-2005, 05:19 PM I don't see why a teacher should hit a child. I came from the age of paddles where I was beaten day in and day out all through grade school. Not once was it for being bad, always because I didn't do my homework. They never once asked me if I was having a problem understanding the work, they just said "go wait ouside the door for me" which imediately terrified me to tears. They didn't have a name for ADD at the time (that came around just after I moved onto junior high), they just called it lazy:rolleyes: I remember in the third grade my teacher put me aginst the wall outside all year to watch the other kids have recess ( while the other kids laughed at me, cause I could join them ) just because I couldn't complete 100 multiplication problems in 5 minutes.....I guess what I'm trying to say is if you give a teacher that kind of power, there IS going to be abuse! I'm living proof of that.:( and I thought my teachers were bad. They used to use the paddles on us for simple things like talking in class but I never saw anyone get paddled for not doing their homework. :( Michael [hXc] 11-14-2005, 05:22 PM what was the point of bumping this thread back? at least what i said in it last year i still stand by now. teachers have no right to hit students, or even lay hands to them. this will just teach the kid to carry on the same behavior when they get to be that age. and if a teacher hits a kid, it just promotes the whole idea of physical violence, and that it is ok to hit as a form of punishment. truthfully if a teacher viciously slapped me across the face, i would be tempted to slap back just out of reaction. and that is wrong. G-Force Glockstar 11-14-2005, 05:24 PM This thread really depresses me....but it makes me more appreciative of my teachers. Southern Hellraiser 11-14-2005, 05:24 PM and I thought my teachers were bad. They used to use the paddles on us for simple things like talking in class but I never saw anyone get paddled for not doing their homework. :( I got a paddling for talking at lunch in 5th grade. :rolleyes: Back in 6th grade, the teachers got tired of us not doing homework so they had the principal paddle the people without homework. One morning half the class was lined up outside, and he broke the paddle on one girl (she wasn't hurt though) G-Force Glockstar 11-14-2005, 05:25 PM This thread really depresses me....but it makes me more appreciative of my teachers. Although I did have a couple teachers before that hit me a few times before....:( Mr. Television 11-14-2005, 05:29 PM I got a paddling for talking at lunch in 5th grade. :rolleyes: Back in 6th grade, the teachers got tired of us not doing homework so they had the principal paddle the people without homework. One morning half the class was lined up outside, and he broke the paddle on one girl (she wasn't hurt though) I do remember in 5th grade a bunch of students were lined up and got paddled for talking at lunch. This was a common thing when I was in school. My 6th grade Math teacher kept his paddle hung on the wall so the kids would never forget to behave. MsOrange 11-14-2005, 05:30 PM I do remember in 5th grade a bunch of students were lined up and got paddled for talking at lunch. This was a common thing when I was in school. My 6th grade Math teacher kept his paddle hung on the wall so the kids would never forget to behave. but times have changed. I think that might have worked back then, but now, it would do no good. The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 05:32 PM I do remember in 5th grade a bunch of students were lined up and got paddled for talking at lunch. This was a common thing when I was in school. My 6th grade Math teacher kept his paddle hung on the wall so the kids would never forget to behave. That's kind of sick when you think about it isn't it? How they thought it was need to intimidate? That one always pissed me off:mad: Mr. Television 11-14-2005, 05:39 PM but times have changed. I think that might have worked back then, but now, it would do no good. I don't really know if it did any good then. The paddles were used year after year. It didn't seem to reduce any of the unruly kids. A lot of the kids were paddled more than once and it didn't seem to do any good. Southern Hellraiser 11-14-2005, 05:41 PM I do remember in 5th grade a bunch of students were lined up and got paddled for talking at lunch. This was a common thing when I was in school. My 6th grade Math teacher kept his paddle hung on the wall so the kids would never forget to behave. Whenever we got loud our reading teacher would put her hand on the paddle, but we just kept on talking anyway. :lol: The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 05:42 PM I don't really know if it did any good then. The paddles were used year after year. It didn't seem to reduce any of the unruly kids. A lot of the kids were paddled more than once and it didn't seem to do any good. It didn't do any good, all it really did was cause depression and issues. Which is probably why it was banned in the first place. Mr. Television 11-14-2005, 05:42 PM That's kind of sick when you think about it isn't it? How they thought it was need to intimidate? That one always pissed me off:mad: Yea. This teacher always took the student outside. This was in elementary school and we only had one floor. Inside we could hear them getting paddled and when the kid would come in usually they were in tears. :( The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 05:49 PM Yea. This teacher always took the student outside. This was in elementary school and we only had one floor. Inside we could hear them getting paddled and when the kid would come in usually they were in tears. :( I know what you mean, it was always embarrasing coming in from the hallway and all the other kids were staring at you as well :( Man, these are issues I'm still trying to get over. Damn can of worms :mumble: Mr. Television 11-14-2005, 06:09 PM I know what you mean, it was always embarrasing coming in from the hallway and all the other kids were staring at you as well :( Man, these are issues I'm still trying to get over. Damn can of worms :mumble: I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think that was the main point in doing it and that was to humiliate the student in front of their classmates. :( Courtnee 11-14-2005, 06:13 PM I don't see why a teacher should hit a child. I came from the age of paddles where I was beaten day in and day out all through grade school. Not once was it for being bad, always because I didn't do my homework. They never once asked me if I was having a problem understanding the work, they just said "go wait ouside the door for me" which imediately terrified me to tears. They didn't have a name for ADD at the time (that came around just after I moved onto junior high), they just called it lazy:rolleyes: I remember in the third grade my teacher put me aginst the wall outside all year to watch the other kids have recess ( while the other kids laughed at me, cause I could join them ) just because I couldn't complete 100 multiplication problems in 5 minutes.....I guess what I'm trying to say is if you give a teacher that kind of power, there IS going to be abuse! I'm living proof of that.:( :crying: Sorry to hear you went through that :( I think it's wrong for teachers to do that... I VOTED NO!:D The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 06:18 PM I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think that was the main point in doing it and that was to humiliate the student in front of their classmates. :( I know, but it was very painful when I thought I was doing good by trying to do my homework, I was belittled by some sarcastic remark anyways. I could win for trying. I remember once I tried to run away from school. They sent two 8th graders after me to catch me. I was so scared of going back that I literally tried to claw the throat out of the one who had picked me up and was carrying me back. So what did they do? They called my dad to the school who when he arrived spanked me in the schools hallway in front of many students. He didn't find out til years later what was really going on. The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 06:23 PM :crying: Sorry to hear you went through that :( I think it's wrong for teachers to do that... I VOTED NO!:D Thanks, I am over it for the most part. This thread just brought back a lot of crap for me. And before some idiot accuses me of attention grabbing ( which insensitve people sometimes do ), I didn't think I would post any of it. In fact, I don't know why I did. I guess I just wanted people to know what happens when teachers get poisoned with power and how some of us are traumetized for it. TheGreatPretender 11-14-2005, 09:21 PM I know what you mean, it was always embarrasing coming in from the hallway and all the other kids were staring at you as well :( Man, these are issues I'm still trying to get over. Damn can of worms :mumble: That's horrible you had to go through that :( Hopefully the karma fairy gave your old teacher or principle a nice kick in the ass. :) Fonzarelli 11-14-2005, 09:25 PM Hell no! What is this, the Middle Ages? Who are those 7 barbarians who even consider this? It's a shame that this question is raised in the first place. Teachers have to teach, and nasty kids can get kicked out of class or even out of school. But they can't hit somebody else's kid. The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 09:28 PM Hell no! What is this, the Middle Ages? Who are those 7 barbarians who even consider this? It's a shame that this question is raised in the first place. Teachers have to teach, and nasty kids can get kicked out of class or even out of school. But they can't hit somebody else's kid. If it's gonna be someone elses kid, I sure hope it's some other nasty kid:lol: Fonzarelli 11-14-2005, 09:31 PM If you allow a teacher to hit a student: where is it gonna stop? These things can be abused very easily. Ok, I hit a nasty kid. Then I hit a kid who isn't nasty, but also isn't really cooperating. Then I hit a kid that I just don't like. Then I hit a kid just because I can, because I have the (legal) power. So, it's really not done! The Chauffeur 11-14-2005, 09:31 PM That's horrible you had to go through that :( Hopefully the karma fairy gave your old teacher or principle a nice kick in the ass. :) It was bad, but it's in the past. I often wish I could line those teachers up and explain how they ripped me out of an education. I was kicked out in the 9th grade. That is my biggest regret. cralappyhappy4 11-14-2005, 10:55 PM if teachers were allowed to hit kids i would have a sore ass....today i got in a fight with my math teacher because he wouldnt let me use the calculator on my phone and i kept goin why not? what the ****? and and he started yelling at me and i was like quit ****ing talking to me ... and he kept yellin and said to shut my mouth i was like ALRIGHT SHUT UP....he probably would have beat the crap out of me if he was allowed so im against this :) Tuesday Weld 11-15-2005, 12:02 PM No, I don't think hitting solves anything, if anything it could make the kid more violent, IMO. Zebra 3 11-15-2005, 04:06 PM Yes, but only in a fun primetime reality show format. Nighthawk76 11-15-2005, 06:35 PM No Stormtracker TF 11-15-2005, 07:01 PM I know, but it was very painful when I thought I was doing good by trying to do my homework, I was belittled by some sarcastic remark anyways. I could win for trying. I remember once I tried to run away from school. They sent two 8th graders after me to catch me. I was so scared of going back that I literally tried to claw the throat out of the one who had picked me up and was carrying me back. So what did they do? They called my dad to the school who when he arrived spanked me in the schools hallway in front of many students. He didn't find out til years later what was really going on. Wow, that mustve been terrible. I'm sorry you had to go through that crap. :( Anyways, no. I don't think teachers should hit their students. It only opens up a door that will lead to alot of bad things. Mijada 11-15-2005, 08:05 PM Certainly not. If a student acts up, just send em to the principals office, call their parents and let them handle it. Most kids who continually make trouble are doing it for a reason. They may have a learning disability or there may be some domestic problems going on, any number of things. I think teachers/school officials should try and get to the root of the problem and help the kid instead of smacking him around. Hitting kids and humiliating them in front of other students only makes them resentful. It does not help them imo. Penny Lane 11-15-2005, 08:51 PM My husband( who attended high school in the late 50's/ early 60's ) said that he got thrown against lockers many times. Which he says that he deserved for being such a smart A$$. But remember back in those days school punishments were given out just like they were at home. Spankings wre the norm then. In my day also. So I really don't see what the big deal is. Being sent to the Principal's office was a very scary thing! (Of course I was the model student who never got in trouble!):snob: :D Jonathan 11-15-2005, 10:35 PM No. Hitting solves nothing. consentida 11-16-2005, 01:12 AM No. What would that accomplish? Parents can't even hit their own kids without having child protective services on their backs. Why should teachers be able to? Karen* 11-16-2005, 01:46 AM Holy crap, I thought the question was "Should teachers be able to hit ON their students?" :rofl: Anyway, either way, I say no. smbrown95 02-23-2006, 08:50 PM You know something yes I do think teachers should have the right to slap students because if a student is misbehaving, sometimes its hard for teachers to handle it so maybe a good slap from a teacher will smarten the student up. Do anyone agree with me smbrown95 02-23-2006, 08:54 PM comes on people listen up for a minute...if teachers was allowed to slap students for any type of misbehaving then I would be slapped a nice few times htis year and mostly by my two favorite teachers but one them I don't think would slap a student but the one problay would. But one of them hit me once this eyar but she was only fooling around cause i was talking about wanting acholoicol and then she hits me for it. But teachers should have the right to slap students right in the face if they want too. Chocoholic 02-23-2006, 09:05 PM I'll admit it, there are a few students that I wouldn't mind giving a good slap on the ass for their behavior, but in reality, I would NEVER do such a thing. I think it's wrong to raise a hand against another human being unless it is in self-defense. I don't blame the kids for their poor behavior. It's the parents' fault for not teaching them proper manners. smbrown95 03-06-2006, 05:39 PM I think teachers should be allowed to hit students if the students is being suacy at all, not listenting or doing other things at school that they are not allowed to be doing. I think this way because teachers would uasusally call the parents to tell them what their daughter or son is doing and then the parent would have to deal with things theirself but I don't think they should have to do that so I think teachers should handle their problems with the students them self by giving the students a good slap in the face. Parents shouldn't even care what the students do at school because they should tell the teachers to deal with it theirself. I don't think teachers should be calling parents to tell them what the students have been doing wrong...I really think the teachers should be allowed to give the students a good slap but the male teachers should only be allowed to slap the boys and the female teachers should be allowed to slap boys and girls because it is against the law for having boys slap girls but its not agaisnt the law for girls to slap boys. Brad Russ 03-06-2006, 05:55 PM Should teachers be able to hit the students? Absolutely not!!! If any teacher ever touched my child without first getting my permission, it would be the worst mistake they ever made. I'm the parent, leave the punishments to me!!! smbrown95 03-06-2006, 06:07 PM some of you said that detention should be good enough...will I am in grade 10 and this year I had three detentions and they were all by one of my favortie teachers and my three detentions were only 15 minutes each because they were recess detentions. The first detention I had was because of sticking my middle fingure up at a student becuase he was making fun of me and my second detention was for being saucy to that teacher that has been giving me these detentions but I was saucy durning a test and my third detention was last week for being saucy to another teacher and he eneded up telling this teacher that I have been being saucy so she gives me the third detention but since then I have not done these things. but if teachers were I allwoed to slap students I would have been slapped alot this year and I do not disagree with teachers slapping students but I do disagree with parents slapping the children. smbrown95 03-06-2006, 06:09 PM for me if a teacher slapped me I would probleay keep getting slapped by that teacher because I would either laugh at it or keep being suayc ot the teacher. But I don't see nothnig wrong with teachers slapping students...It kinda seems funny even if a teacher slapped me I would fine it funny. smbrown95 03-06-2006, 06:12 PM Absolutely not!!! If any teacher ever touched my child without first getting my permission, it would be the worst mistake they ever made. I'm the parent, leave the punishments to me!!! come on people...if you were a teacher and one of your students were out of control and you ends up calling the students parents about it but they does absoulutly nothnig and then the next day the student comes back again and is still uncontrolable then wouldn't you slap the student? I would. Mr. Television 03-06-2006, 06:14 PM I don't even know why you keep talking about teachers slapping students. In the old days we were paddled and I don't ever remember teachers slapping anybody. Teachers should keep their hands to themselves. They are not the parents. And it is very easy for teachers to abuse this anyhow. I saw it plenty of times. Brad Russ 03-06-2006, 06:34 PM come on people...if you were a teacher and one of your students were out of control and you ends up calling the students parents about it but they does absoulutly nothnig and then the next day the student comes back again and is still uncontrolable then wouldn't you slap the student? I would. If a student were too far out of control, I'd probably call the police. If they hit me first, I'd hit them back, or if they were hitting another student, I'd try to restrain them, but other then that, I'd leave the physical stuff to the parents, or the police. smbrown95 03-06-2006, 08:39 PM OMG people actually even if the student isn't uncontrolable the teacher should still be allowed to slap a student but if I was a teacher I would not slap a student unless they were really uncontrolable but I still think teachers should be allwoed to slap students. smbrown95 03-06-2006, 08:44 PM Teachers get paid to teach so they don't get paid to have students not listening to them so they should be able to slap students because the teachers needs to teach and thats what they are getting paid for...Like if I wasn't listening to a teacher and don't show respect for a teacher yes they got a right to slap me. I never have respect for teachers will most of the time I don't. Mr. Television 03-06-2006, 08:48 PM Teachers get paid to teach so they don't get paid to have students not listening to them so they should be able to slap students because the teachers needs to teach and thats what they are getting paid for...Like if I wasn't listening to a teacher and don't show respect for a teacher yes they got a right to slap me. I never have respect for teachers will most of the time I don't. No what they should do is kick you right out of the class if you're acting up. smbrown95 03-06-2006, 09:28 PM trust me I have been kicked out of class so many times this year its not even funny. But I have only got kicked out of class by two different teachers and they are both my favorite teachers. I only made it down to the office once though the other times they kicked me out of class they only made me stand out side of the class for a few minutes and then the teahcer came out and spoke to me. I even got sent to the libariy by one of my faovriteteachers this year for a 5 minute time out and I am in grade 10 and they treat me like a 3 year old because I am misbehaving. The teachers tried everythnig to get me to smarten up but they didn't try a suspention yet but I am still not all that great. I even walked out of math class a couple weeks ago because the class was uncontrolable and I decided there was no point being in class if we wasn't learning nothing. but I never got in trouble but Ms. Hickey the one that been giving me detention caught me and she made me turn around to walk back to class and she was gonig to speak to me and when we got close to my math class she hears my math teacher yelling at the class and she looks at me and says bad class and I said yeah and then we turns right back around and goes right back to the lobby but then she spoke to me about it. D.J. 03-06-2006, 09:38 PM Definitely not. If teachers were allowed to hit us, I'd throw them out the window from the 3rd floor. Keep in mind that I am not a small kid. I'm 6'1" so picture me kicking a teacher's ass whos like 5'1"? My friend is 6'7" and 275 so basically, the kids today are too big and too violent to allow teachers to hit. Michael [hXc] 03-06-2006, 10:18 PM yeah i think nowadays teachers are sometimes more afraid of their students than the students are of the teacher. i have a friend and she is 5'9 or so and she's very aggressive, and would definitely hit a teacher back if they hit her. or her mother would :lol: but we have really small teachers who know better. Polniaczek033 03-07-2006, 12:00 AM no. i just think the students should beat the crap out of each other. if teachers were allowed to hit their students for anything, my english teacher would have beaten me to a pulp because she hates me for no reason at all. she suxxxx. smbrown95 03-09-2006, 07:07 PM I am 5"4 and if I would hit a teacher back even though I agree with teachers giving students a good slap...But one of ym teachers hit me a couple of times but she was only fooling around and eysterday she showed me the fist but I showed ehr the fist right back but we werer only kidding around but teahcers should be allwoed to slap students. Dude111 04-30-2025, 07:59 AM Only if the kids can hit them back.Yes well even though they arent allowed to,most would if they were hit first for no reason. |