View Full Version : Jason Collins Of The Nets Is A Liar & He Should've Been Fined
isiahthomas 04-19-2004, 01:01 PM Did ya'll see that hard foul he did on Tim Thomas this past Saturday? He said that he was trying to go after the ball & he didn't intend to hurt Tim. Bulls**t. I don't believe him. When i saw the replay, he wasn't going after the ball at all. He fouled Tim hard & that was a dangerous spill that Tim took fallin on his back. I don't like dirty players & Jason & Kenyon Martin are dirty players. Jason Kidd gets dirty sometimes when he wants. A good example of that is when he pushed Frank Williams to the floor Saturday & then he stood over him saying somethin. I don't blame Frank for pushing Jason to the floor. Jason made that push look like it was more than it was. I can't stand players who flop a lot either & Jason is a flopper just like Vlade Divac who is the #1 flopper in the NBA LOL.
jekouptown 04-19-2004, 03:19 PM i honestly dont think COLLINS thinks like that. He does not give off that thuggish image. I dont think that if he wanted to hurt someone he knew how to do it. Now if you where talking about ZO or A-TRAIN....then your talking about thugz. Collins comes across too too soft. Maybe thats why he is getting away with it. Anthony Mason would be on his way to jail if it where him or OAKLEY.
isiahthomas 04-19-2004, 04:15 PM Who is A Train? LOL@Anthony Mason & Charles Oakley hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Houston used Charles this season. They signed him to a 10 day contract cause Kelvin Cato was hurt & then they cut him when Kelvin came back LOL. I'm glad Anthony is out of the league. He had the ugliest free throw shot i've ever seen & i would hate the way he would hesitate before he would shoot which made players come in the lane LOL. Did u see Brandon Hunter of the Celtics foul Jermaine O Neal hard this past Saturday? Jermaine & Brandon almost got into a fight. Ricky Davis got into it also with Jermaine. They were talkin s**t to each other. Jermaine spoke to the media saying that he didn't wanna do anything stupid by fighting with Brandon cause if he would've gotten ejected, his team would've needed him & if Brandon got ejected, the Celtics don't really need him cause he's not a good player hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
jekouptown 04-19-2004, 04:38 PM Originally posted by isiahthomas
Who is A Train? LOL@Anthony Mason & Charles Oakley hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Houston used Charles this season. They signed him to a 10 day contract cause Kelvin Cato was hurt & then they cut him when Kelvin came back LOL. I'm glad Anthony is out of the league. He had the ugliest free throw shot i've ever seen & i would hate the way he would hesitate before he would shoot which made players come in the lane LOL. Did u see Brandon Hunter of the Celtics foul Jermaine O Neal hard this past Saturday? Jermaine & Brandon almost got into a fight. Ricky Davis got into it also with Jermaine. They were talkin s**t to each other. Jermaine spoke to the media saying that he didn't wanna do anything stupid by fighting with Brandon cause if he would've gotten ejected, his team would've needed him & if Brandon got ejected, the Celtics don't really need him cause he's not a good player hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Aaron Williams is a-train. Houston needed Oakley as much as Oakley needed to be signed somewhere. Surprising they didn't keep him for the playoff push. Shaq says things like that all the time. Talkin about if he gets in trouble its his team thats going to loose..but if the other guy gets in trouble its just another body on the bench.
isiahthomas 04-19-2004, 05:01 PM LOL@Shaq saying just another body on the bench hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Shaq be saying some funny stuff to the media. Charles Barkley is a clown though. I love watching him in the studio on TNT doing the games. He always got somethin funny to say.
Next season, the Knicks need to get bigger and tougher. They need a low post scorer, a shooting guard to replace Houston as a starter (I am not reling on Houston anymore), and an enforcer.
That is a lot to ask, but Isiah can do it, but I am worried if Kurt Thomas continues to play horrible, he is our top trade bait (outside of Marbury) to get those players.
If we can get Rasheed Wallace that would be great. This series shows us we need him badly, he fills two of the three things I listed. Isiah needs to show Mrs. Wallace what a great city New York is and how much better it is than Detroit. Because according to Rasheed, she will decide where he signs.
I know you guys think it is not going to happen, that he will stay in Detroit, but I thought Andy Pettie would stay with the Yankees, but he went to a city where his wife wanted him to play for less money, and for a lesser team. So anything can happen. And Rasheed will make his money back though endorcements if he came to the Knicks anyway.
If we don't get him, we should sign the other free agent player Okur from the Pistons, (Detroit ain't keeping both Okur and Wallace) or the center on the Bull, I forgot his name, but he killed the Knicks everytime we played the Bulls this year.
isiahthomas 04-19-2004, 05:19 PM U talkin about Eddy Curry who plays center for the Bulls? The Bulls need so much help, it ain't funny LOL. TVJE i wish u would shut the hell up talkin about Rasheed coming to the Knicks. The man always wears the pants in the household so Rasheed isn't gonna listen to his wife about where he should play. He isn't gonna leave Detroit so shut up talkin about him leaving Detroit. They already said on ESPN yesterday during the Detroit game that Larry Brown is gonna make sure the Pistons sign him to a long term contract. Rasheed would be a fool to leave Detroit to play for the sorry Knicks. Stephon is gonna have to score more than 13 points in game 1 for the Knicks to have a chance of winning against the Nets. Lenny Wilkens said he's gonna start Penny Hardaway at point guard in game 2 so Stephon will be able to shoot more. The Knicks should let Allan Houston go. If Allan doesn't play this series, the Knicks might as well forget about beating the Nets.
Eddie Curry, thanks.
Rasheed said it is 80% his families decision and 20% his decision. After we got Marbury, I put nothing past Isiah. The Knicks are going after him and they will try their best. And Isiah so far has a good track record of getting his way. And since when did Larry Brown become Rasheed Wallace's agent? I don't give a dam what Larry Brown says, besides if I was Rasheed I wouldn't care what Brown says because he is always changing teams. And the Knicks through endorcements will match any amount of money he could get anywhere else.
You say Rasheed would be nuts to leave the Pistons for the Knicks, well I say Andy Pettie is nuts to leave the Yankees for the Astros. You never know what goes through an athlete's mind.
If Rasheed loves the Pistons so much, and the Pistons said they will pay him the max, he would have resigned already. Don't tell me, he is using the Knicks for leverage, the Pistons said they will pay him the max, so there is no need for that. He is considering the Knicks. I thought if Pettie became a free agent, he would probably leave the Yankees, if Rasheed does not sign with the Pistons by July 1, he is most likely not coming back to Detroit.
I think we can get Wallace, he is plan A. But if not, Okur and Curry are good players too. Reguardless the Knicks will be a better team next year, that I know.
jekouptown 04-20-2004, 08:47 AM Kurt is not playing well because he has a broken pinkey. He does not want to get it slapped. I hear that the Knicks where going to leave Penny unprotected for the Charlotte draft. Then I hear that they are going to leave Allan Houston unprotected instead. Trying to get that big contract off the payroll. I think thats a good move. He can shoot but I am tired of having to sub Shandon Anderson in the game for defensive purposes. I would've kept Charlie Ward for that matter if it came to defense. Shandon can't shoot worth a damn. Demarr even looks good right about now. I wish Penny where 4 years younger...*lol*
We need to trade Norris, Harrington, Anderson, Houston and Trybanski(why keep him and Mutombo).. Frank showed heart when he shoved Kidd...I would trade Baker but he aint making any real dollars so we can afford to keep him.
isiahthomas 04-20-2004, 11:22 AM TVJE i don't care what u say. Rasheed isn't leaving Detroit for the Knicks. Detroit got a good thing going right now & he adds a defensive, rebounding, scoring presence to that team. The Knicks aren't going anywhere for awhile cause they're not good enough. If i was a athlete, i wouldn't wanna play in New York or LA cause it's too many damn people there & the traffic is always bad. Detroit is a good place to live cause it's not as big a city as New York, LA, Washington DC where there's always traffic & too many people. That's why i love Cleveland so much & i don't wanna live anywhere else cause the traffic isn't always bad & it's not a lot of people here. U have to take all that into consideration when you're a athlete. Who wants to be hemmed up in traffic all the damn time & dealing with a bunch of foreigners? If u notice, foreigners always move to Miami, Washington DC, New York, LA. U barely see a lot of foreigners in Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago & that's what i like about those cities. Those cities are laidback towns. LOL@Shandon Anderson can't shoot worth a damn. The Knicks do need to get rid of those players u named Jekouptown.
I agree with you, some athletes love to play in New York and Los Angeles, and be part of the limelight. Some athletes don't want to play in those cities for the reason you say.
Everyone is different.
isiahthomas 04-20-2004, 12:56 PM Why u think Rasheed Wallace played in Portland so long? Portland is a quiet city & it's laid back & u don't have to worry about a whole bunch of fans following u around & harrassing u for autographs. A lot of blacks don't live there LOL. I remember when Ruben Patterson was a free agent for Portland a few yrs ago, he had a chance to play for Cleveland Cavs & he decided not to play for them cause his wife told him there would be too many distractions for him cause he's from Cleveland & a lot of his family is there. I don't care what his wife says. His wife shouldn't make his decisions for him. If he wants to play for Cleveland cause that's where he's from, he should do that. Forget what his wife talkin about. There was a incident involving him at a club in Cleveland a few yrs ago where he got into a fight with somebody & he had to go to court about that. That's why it's so hard to get NBA players to play for Utah cause most black players know Utah is a boring city. Black players wanna live in a city where u can go to clubs & get into some stuff. That's why they be in trouble all the time too. If i was a athlete, i'd stay away from clubs cause it's too many envious people at clubs that aren't happy for your success especially at black clubs.
I am not making this stuff up. The papers had stories about Rasheed desire to play in New York. And not just New York papers, Chicago papers reported he wants to play in New York.
Also many NBA insiders including the Gereral Manager of Portland said Rasheed wants to play in New York. He seems to be an athlete that would embrace New York.
Anyway, in other news the NBA Dean of Discipline former Knick coach Stu Jackson will be in attendence at tonights Knicks/Nets game. And will also attend one of the games in the Garden. If he goes to the Garden, the Knicks fans will be all over him.
isiahthomas 04-20-2004, 01:32 PM I didn't say u were making up this stuff about Rasheed. All i'm saying is he would be a fool if he left Detroit. He did play for the Washington Bullets before they were called Wizards so i guess he does like cities with a lot of people & traffic always being bad cause Washington DC, VA, MD definitely has a lot of people & bad traffic. Washington Wizards have got to be the dumbest franchise in the NBA. They have made so many bad trades over the yrs, it's ridiculous. They traded Rasheed for Kevin Duckworth from Portland hahahahahahahahahahaha. What a waste. Abe Pollin who is the owner of the Wizards needs to sell the team cause as long as his old ass is the owner, the Wizards will continue to be sorry. There is no way he should've fired Michael Jordan & used him like he did. Cleveland teams & Washington Wizards get on my damn nerves always trading good players & they never get nothin good in return. Fans of Cleveland teams & Wizards are gettin fed up with losing yr after yr but at least Cleveland Cavs have a brighter future than the Wizards.
jekouptown 04-20-2004, 02:11 PM detroit aint gonna win nothing.!!! thats why rasheed is going to bounce.
isiahthomas 04-20-2004, 02:16 PM U crazy talkin about Detroit ain't gonna win nothin. They're gonna be better than the Knicks for a lot of yrs, i guarantee that. Don't say nothin if Detroit makes it to the finals this yr. I wouldn't be surprised if they were in the finals cause their defense is better than Indiana's.
I think we might see Detroit and San Antonio in the Finals, and if you like scoring, it is not going to be a good Finals. But if you like defense, it will be a great Finals.
My pick to come of the East is still Indiana though.
I do disagree about the Pistons being better than the Knicks for years to come. You can not say any team is going to be great for years to come. You don't know what is going to happen. Look at what happened to Orlando twice. They were suppose to be great for years to come. But Shaq left, and they went downhill. Then they got Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady and were suppose to be great again, but Hill misses a ton of games every year due to injury, and look at Orlando now.
isiahthomas 04-22-2004, 11:19 AM Tim Thomas called out his teammates yesterday saying he couldn't believe nobody pushed any of the Nets players & got physical with them after Jason fouled him hard. Tim said he felt like Jason was definitely trying to foul him hard instead of going after the ball. I told ya'll that was a intentional foul by Jason. Jason wasn't hardly going after the ball. I don't care if he is a soft player to u Jekouptown. That was a physical foul & he was trying to take his head off. Tim also said that Kenyon Martin is a fake wanna be tough guy LOL.
sinatrastar 04-22-2004, 12:56 PM Tim Thomas should call his self out. He is sitting on the bench complaining about about his team being weak :lol: why didn't he suit up if he is so tough.
isiahthomas 04-22-2004, 03:58 PM He couldn't suit up because of Jason Collins injuring his back. I wish Tim was still with Milwaukee. Milwaukee is better than the Knicks.
jekouptown 04-23-2004, 09:51 AM Originally posted by isiahthomas
He couldn't suit up because of Jason Collins injuring his back. I wish Tim was still with Milwaukee. Milwaukee is better than the Knicks.
you don't really believe that...Talent wise.? Your saying that...listen to this.
Ervin JOhnson is better than Mohammad (Mohammad)
Joe Smith is better than Kurt Thomas (kurt)
Van Horn is better than Tim THomas (even)
Redd is better than Houston (even if Houston has a slight advantage)
Marbury is waaaayyyyy better than any other point guard except KIDD. so lets not even go there.
isiahthomas 04-23-2004, 10:31 AM Ervin Johnson is with Minnesota. I don't care about your opinion. Like i said, i wish Tim was still with Milwaukee. The Knicks are terrible. They're about to get swept by the Nets. Isiah Thomas should feel stupid for gettin all these new players cause look at what's happening.
jekouptown 04-23-2004, 10:37 AM Originally posted by isiahthomas
Ervin Johnson is with Minnesota. I don't care about your opinion. Like i said, i wish Tim was still with Milwaukee. The Knicks are terrible. They're about to get swept by the Nets. Isiah Thomas should feel stupid for gettin all these new players cause look at what's happening.
damn son...i dont care about your opinion. You sound upset..I though you where bigger than that.
If they get swept it wont hide the fact that milwaukee is not a better team. Isiah has a better team than Scott Layden had during his whole time here. Bullshyt draft picks. Then when he did get a good draft he gave them away. IF i can recall Milwaukee center is GADZURIC...so that makes it a clean sweep for THE KNICKS. The KNicks where not a better team with VAn HOrn and no backup center. Isiah made a good move for the Future.
isiahthomas 04-23-2004, 10:42 AM I'm not upset. Milwaukee's starting center is Brian Skinner but i think they should have Dan Gadzuric starting cause he's a good shot blocker & rebounder. He can score too. Brian is doing well for Milwaukee but when he was with Cleveland, he ain't do jack. Brevin Knight is also playing well for the Bucks. He's a good point guard & he's quick. I wish the Cavs would've kept him. The Cavs have always had good point guards but they never keep them. Kenyon Martin at practice yesterday had on his shirt a picture of Tim Thomas on the New York newspaper saying Whiny Tim hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Kenyon is off the hook.
jekouptown 04-23-2004, 11:20 AM Originally posted by isiahthomas
I'm not upset. Milwaukee's starting center is Brian Skinner but i think they should have Dan Gadzuric starting cause he's a good shot blocker & rebounder. He can score too. Brian is doing well for Milwaukee but when he was with Cleveland, he ain't do jack. Brevin Knight is also playing well for the Bucks. He's a good point guard & he's quick. I wish the Cavs would've kept him. The Cavs have always had good point guards but they never keep them. Kenyon Martin at practice yesterday had on his shirt a picture of Tim Thomas on the New York newspaper saying Whiny Tim hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Kenyon is off the hook.
Brian was better with the 76ers. Better with braids.
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