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Jenya
04-14-2004, 11:34 AM
Wal-Mart Sells Anti-Smut DVD Player

By Chris Marlowe
REUTERS (http://www.reuters.com/)

Tuesday April 13, 2004

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Wal-Mart is selling the world's first DVD player that can seamlessly skip over violence, swearing, nudity and other potentially offensive movie content. The $79 unit features technology by ClearPlay and is manufactured by Thomson Inc. under its RCA brand.

The product comes in the wake of the Super Bowl halftime controversy as well as the FCC fining Clear Channel for indecent content on "The Howard Stern Show." But ClearPlay CEO Bill Aho said the timing is coincidental.

"It's just fortunate," he said. "There is a lot of interest and sensitivity around the topic of potentially offensive media content."

RCA's player is the latest development in a legal battle between the Salt Lake City-based software company and Hollywood. Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, Steven Soderbergh and other members of the Directors Guild of America (DGA) filed suit against ClearPlay in September 2002, when the filtering product was available as a computer program.

Those legal proceedings are still under way in Colorado's 10th District Court. Both sides currently are waiting for a ruling on a summary judgment filed by ClearPlay.

The DGA, for its part, is sticking to its guns.

"ClearPlay software edits movies to conform to ClearPlay's vision of a movie instead of letting audiences see, and judge for themselves, what writers wrote, what actors said and what directors envisioned," a DGA spokesman said in a statement Monday. "Ultimately, it is a violation of law and just wrong to profit from selling software that changes the intent of movies you didn't create and don't own."

The Motion Picture Assn. of America, which lobbies on behalf of most of Hollywood's major studios, declined to comment directly regarding Wal-Mart's decision to sell the players but spokesman Matt Grossman did say, "our position is that we are wholeheartedly against any individual or enterprise that alters our studios' copyrighted material."

Consumers can play any DVD in these units in the usual manner. In addition, however, they can activate a variety of different filtering levels that work according to ClearPlay's preprograming. The player filtering works only on selected titles; it has no effect on movies that it has not been preprogramed to handle, but for those it doesn't recognize, it has the capability to completely block movies based on their rating.

The sophisticated process is rather like very smoothly fast-forwarding and muting the original movie as it plays back. The DVD remains unchanged and unharmed. Aho said that is an essential distinction between ClearPlay and fellow defendants named in the pending suit, because others provide consumers with a copy of a physically edited DVD or VHS movie.

According to Aho, the studios' allegations imply that consumers "are violating copyright law when they use ClearPlay to mute and skip the playback of movies on DVDs that they have lawfully bought or rented."

He believes the industry's objections are lessening now that Hollywood has had a chance to evaluate what ClearPlay actually does.

"There is a natural reaction when faced with a new technology to make sure that it's managed, that your industry is protected and that the application is good for both consumers and the industry," Aho said. "It's clear that there is a much better understanding of ClearPlay as opposed to companies that make copies of the movies. I think the industry is more aware of the distinction now, and there's a search for how to make it work for them."

ClearPlay offers several settings in four categories of filtering -- violence, language, sex/nudity and explicit drug use -- with the user able to choose any combination. For example, the language setting can range from irreligious exclamations to ethnic slurs to graphic phrases used as profanity.

Aho said the product is important, because standards differ from one person to another. Some people have no objection to innuendo, he said, but shield their children from seeing violence. He added that it's consumer choice, not censorship.

Demonstrating a low violence setting, Aho showed a scene from "The Patriot." The viewer sees a soldier firing a rifle at an enemy followed by Mel Gibson's character turning away in dismay: ClearPlay eliminates the close-up of the bullet's impact and blood spurting from the wound.

Aho said ClearPlay tries to program popular movies that contain elements people might be uncomfortable seeing or allowing their children to see. "About a Boy," "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines," "When Harry Met Sally," "Zoolander," "As Good as It Gets" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" are among the movies with available filters.

He added that ClearPlay will not offer titles that cannot be edited in a way that retains their sensibility, such as "Saving Private Ryan," "Schindler's List" or "The Passion of the Christ."

Thomson did not return calls by press time. But Aho said none of ClearPlay's partners were worried about the pending lawsuit. "We have had so many big public companies look at it and decide to proceed," he said. "Some have decided to wait it out, but none of them have declined to work with us because of the legal risk."

Each RCA unit comes with 100 filters. Additional filters can be purchased from ClearPlay's Web site for $4.95 per month or $49 per year. Movies more than 90 days old are less expensive at $20 for as many filters as the customer wants during a three-year period. Once a filter is installed it is permanently in the player.

AllIWantIsYourClutch
04-14-2004, 11:46 AM
That is so stupid...If you don't want to see the stuff in the movies, don't watch them.

Kazza
04-14-2004, 11:57 AM
That doesn't make any sense!! Why watch a movie then?? Since I have children and have to 'filter' what we watch; I would enjoy this movies when they are sleeping and I don't have to worry about a thing:D

Jenya
04-14-2004, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by I'maDESIlover
That doesn't make any sense!! Why watch a movie then?? Since I have children and have to 'filter' what we watch; I would enjoy this movies when they are sleeping and I don't have to worry about a thing:D

I always though DVD players were capible of offering an edit option based on the film's ratings- so you can cut out any obscene material on the discs. My assumption (when these players were first introduced on the market) was that you would have to manually change the parental guidence rating option in the DVD player's main menu. :confused:

Silver Bullet
04-14-2004, 02:11 PM
Do they sell dvd players that allow smut to be played? :p
Note to self: don't buy a dvd player from Wal-Mart.
It's bad enough that they censor albums, now this.

Kazza
04-14-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Jenya
I always though DVD players were capible of offering an edit option based on the film's ratings- so you can cut out any obscene material on the discs. My assumption (when these players were first introduced on the market) was that you would have to manually change the parental guidence rating option in the DVD player's main menu. :confused:

I think it has something like that; it's just that I'm still trying to figure out what half the buttons in the remote control are for:lol:

Jenya
04-14-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by I'maDESIlover
I think it has something like that; it's just that I'm still trying to figure out what half the buttons in the remote control are for:lol:

I just remember that- that was one of the advertising pitches for DVD a few years ago when they were first introduced to the public. That your DVD player can automatically edit any movies that contained inappropriate material on them to view. So I can't really understand what all the fuss is about. :confused:

Rockapella722
04-14-2004, 03:29 PM
Stick the 8 Mile dvd in there. You'd see approximately 4 minutes of the whole movie.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

SBTB Geek
04-14-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Rockapella722
Stick the 8 Mile dvd in there. You'd see approximately 4 minutes of the whole movie.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine watching "American Psycho," "Casino," "Scarface," or "Showgirls" on that DVD player! :D

FamilyTiesGOP
04-14-2004, 03:45 PM
It isn't a big deal. Some people probably will enjoy this, so let them have it. If you don't want to buy it, then don't. But let people who still want to view descent movies without explicit material have what they want. I for one do not believe that explicit language and violence enhance movies anyway, so I wouldn't have a problem with this.

AKA
04-14-2004, 04:16 PM
That's ****ing disturbing. Censorship is icky.

Originally posted by Jenya
I always though DVD players were capible of offering an edit option based on the film's ratings- so you can cut out any obscene material on the discs. My assumption (when these players were first introduced on the market) was that you would have to manually change the parental guidence rating option in the DVD player's main menu. :confused:

Me too, actually. I remember reading something about that in an article back in '97.

TJL
04-14-2004, 04:32 PM
What a timesaver!

I can watch my entire DVD collection in five minutes!

;)

Kay Scarpetta
04-14-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by SBTB Geek
Imagine watching "American Psycho," "Casino," "Scarface," or "Showgirls" on that DVD player! :D

'Casino' :lol: that would have about a minute and a half of the whole film

Penny Lane
04-14-2004, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by TJL
What a timesaver!

I can watch my entire DVD collection in five minutes!

;)


No kidding! :lol: :lol: :lol:

AKA
04-14-2004, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by TJL
What a timesaver!

I can watch my entire DVD collection in five minutes!

;)

:lol:

I can just imagine watching Pulp Fiction on one of those things:

PUMPKIN: No, forget it, it's too risky. through doin' that... Garcon! Coffee!

WAITRESS: "Garcon" means boy.

[Cut to opening credits, then:]

VINCENT: Do you know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

JULES: They don't call it a Quarter Pounder with Cheese?

VINCENT: No, they got the metric system there...

JULES: What do they call it?

VINCENT: Royale with Cheese.

JULES: Royale with Cheese. What do they call a Big Mac?

VINCENT: Big Mac's a Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac.

JULES: What do they call a Whopper?

VINCENT: I dunno, I didn't go into a Burger King. But you know what they put on french fries in Holland instead of ketchup?

JULES: What?

VINCENT: Mayonnaise.

cut to...

VINCENT: I think we oughta leave now.

JULES: That's probably a good idea.

The End

FamilyTiesGOP
04-14-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Jen1989
That's great. All they need to do now is come out with the same thing, but come out with it in VCR format also. It would be nice to watch a movie without having to listen to tons of bad language, having to watch scenes where you want to scream, "Ok, people get a room!", having to watch so much violence, and drug use. If the only way to make a movie is to involve bad language, violence, nudity, and drug use, than something's wrong to begin with. Movies can be great without all that. I'd prefer being able to eliminate the garbage such as violence, nudity, bad language, and drug use. People have been so exposed to such movies that a lot of people are no longer bothered by such material, but some of the material in movies today would have scared the living daylights out of people several years ago.

:clap

Unfortunately, though, we seem to be the minority here.

AKA
04-14-2004, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Jen1989
That's great. All they need to do now is come out with the same thing, but come out with it in VCR format also.

It's impossible to come up with a filtering system for an analog format. Besides, VHS is dead, so why would they?

Originally posted by FamilyTiesGOP
:clap

Unfortunately, though, we seem to be the minority here.

You sure are. Most of us prefer to honor the artistic integrity of the filmmaker. This is the same reason I don't watch TV edits of theatrical films.

James"Thunder"Early
04-14-2004, 10:04 PM
I think it's a great idea for people who want to watch movie without seeing smut. it gives people the chance to skip those parts without fast forwarding the DVD. everyone does not have to use it.

Sterling Holobyte
04-15-2004, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by AKA

You sure are. Most of us prefer to honor the artistic integrity of the filmmaker. This is the same reason I don't watch TV edits of theatrical films.
I'm glad I'm not your kid. Lord knows what I would be exposed to for the sake of the "art".
I personally think the dvd players are a good idea. It gives control over what their kids see in a movie to the parents, and not to Hollywood. Because you know Hollywood is so concerned about what kids are exposed to(I'm being sarcastic here, in case you needed to know).:cool:
I also don't think the Hollywood people who are making a big stink about this have a foot to stand on! They would have to also go after all the people who fast-forward through objectional parts in their movies too. The only difference is this dvd player does it for them.

AKA
04-15-2004, 01:34 AM
Double post. Delete me.

AKA
04-15-2004, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Sterling Holobyte
I'm glad I'm not your kid. Lord knows what I would be exposed to for the sake of the "art".

Well, let's see. I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't show them South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut. If I had kids, I'd, well, parent them. I wouldn't show them things that would be objectionable to them. Therefore, I don't feel the need to show them censored versions of movies they're not mature enough for, either.

It's not Hollywood's job to be "concerned" about what your kids watch, Sterling. It's up to the parents.

Originally posted by Jen1989
Exactly. I seriously doubt ANYONE would want to be his kid. That would be awful to say the least. LOL!

Aaw. Are you still sad because I had to teach you (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104041) that Dan Quayle was George H.W. Bush's vice president, and not his political opponent? Aaw.

Janice
04-15-2004, 01:44 AM
I think it's a great idea, and not censorship at all. Nobody is forcing anyone to see the movie edited. It's a choice. Just as someone chooses to watch a movie unedited, it's good that those who object to certain themes in movies also have a choice.

I would never buy this DVD player, but I wouldn't criticize someone who did buy one.

Sterling Holobyte
04-15-2004, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by AKA
Well, let's see. I don't have kids, but if I did, I wouldn't show them South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut. If I had kids, I'd, well, parent them. I wouldn't show them things that would be objectionable to them. Therefore, I don't feel the need to show them censored versions of movies they're not mature enough for, either.
Well, that's good to know. Fair enough.
I just feel that these dvd players would be good for movies in which the makers put in a few curse words or a nude scene just so they could get away from a PG rating(it happens. quite a lot in fact). Then the whole family could watch without having to be on guard with the remote.

AKA
04-15-2004, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by Sterling Holobyte
Well, that's good to know. Fair enough.
I just feel that these dvd players would be good for movies in which the makers put in a few curse words or a nude scene just so they could get away from a PG rating(it happens. quite a lot in fact). Then the whole family could watch without having to be on guard with the remote.

I could see that with a few films, I guess. I remember as a kid having to leave the room while my parents fast forwarded through objectionable scenes in PG-13 films. This player would save one from the trouble.

I know I certainly won't buy anything like it, though.

Czas na Zywiec
04-15-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by Janice
I think it's a great idea, and not censorship at all. Nobody is forcing anyone to see the movie edited. It's a choice. Just as someone chooses to watch a movie unedited, it's good that those who object to certain themes in movies also have a choice.

I would never buy this DVD player, but I wouldn't criticize someone who did buy one.

I agree, if some parents want to buy it, then let them.

But people shouldn't soley rely on this. If they do, they shouldn't have kids in the first place.

Janice
04-15-2004, 02:31 AM
Since I have no children living at home, I would be interested in buying a Pro-Smut DVD player....one that adds more sex and violence into the movie. ;)

AKA
04-15-2004, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Janice
Since I have no children living at home, I would be interested in buying a Pro-Smut DVD player....one that adds more sex and violence into the movie. ;)

Just get Cinemax.

sara
04-15-2004, 03:07 AM
I don't think it's a bad idea for people with children. BTW my Dad almost skipped a scene while we were watching a movie a few months ago and I'm almost 25:crazy:

AKA
04-15-2004, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Jen1989
First of all, I wasn't sad/and or crying, I just felt that you were very harsh with your critism. Hopefully, you won't ever be a teacher, as mean as you are, you would probably pick on and bully your students. So, I didn't remember a few political details from 1989, is that a crime? I think not! Like you actually knew what was going on then, you were eight years old. So, telling me that I should have known what was going on in 1989 when I was 10, is stupid, because most little kids don't know all the ins and outs when it comes to things like that. So, chill out ok?

I didn't want to respond to this, but I feel compelled to.

Yes, I was eight years old, but during the '88 elections, I did know this much: pretty soon, Ronald Reagan wasn't going to be our president anymore. Some guy named George Bush wanted to be take his job, but so did another guy named Michael Dukakis.

But really, that point is moot.

Even if you don't remember the elections, how could you not know Dan Quayle was George Bush's vice president, not his opponent? Or that elections aren't held during years that end in an odd number? Most people can tell you that. It's common knowledge.

Again, you can call me a jerk for pointing out your errors, but I felt I had to. Especially if you're going to be a teacher.