This kinda an odd question, but do you think Lucy being able to show herself as a pregnant woman on TV broke the barriers to lead to all the stuff that can be shown on TV today? (sex, blah, blah, blah..) Or did time allow it? I mean, if Lucy never got pregnant, do you think TV would almost be the same as it was back then?

I was just pondering o it, and thought I'd get your opinions! :crazy:

Contrary to popular belief, Lucy was not the first, but hers was the first one that made such an impact, it being talked about on the show and all, but TV would be the same, it just evolved as time does, the fifties was twin beds, today they show twins IN BED!

I think that the times have definitely changed. But if Lucy hadn't have been shown as pregnant on TV, somebody else would have later on and would have been first, such as Elizabeth Montgomery.

Yes, indeed that is a good question to ponder. One in which one could only offer an opinion.
I have no doubt, that as the times change, with values and standards. Back then, when our parents and grandparents were growing up, certain things, like pregnancy in the media, sex were taboo. Such topics were discussed in privacy and not discussed publicly.
Lucy was a very determined person. Even though later on she said she didn't think the show would last as long as it did, that her intent was to use them as home movies to show her baby and that she would have been just as happy being a homemaker and a mother. But we all know she couldn't be out of the public spotlight, and she wanted Desi right there with her, as a means that could keep them together. When Lucy came on TV she was already a hit so to speak. Jess oppenheimer, being the producer, had seenwhere they were going. they could let this good thing end. So he encouraged them to 'stay with the program'. together they discussed and found a way of making this work. Which I think ultimately, back then took a lot of spunk and courage. Questions arose,"How would the general public perceive this?" So they had to talk to preists and pastors and so fourth and psycolgists, to see if they thought it was too risque, [for that time period]. So this got the 'ball rolling' [pardon the pun;)]
Today we live in a world where people are quite comfortable with discussing such things, books have been written, documentaries shown. The media today is not what it was, sex is brought up in shows, that started in the seventies. Maybe even earlier. Remember I dream of Jeannie? There was a big controversy about Barbra Eden's costume, and showing her navel. So as time times change so do the standards.
IMHO, I think "Lucy" really did light the fire, I think this kind of broke people out of their shell a little bit, and people realized, this is life, what it is about. I Love Lucy was a sitcom about a married couple. Married couples have sex, they have children. This gave the show realism, made it beleiveable, even though the antics were fantasmal. So in other words, people got a grippe and loosened up.
On The Other hand, I remember the movie "Gone with the Wind". In that movie Rhett Butler/Clark Gable uttered the famous phrase'Frankly my dear I don't give a damn". That was made in the thirties or forties, and "Damn" was/is a curse word. You didn't hear anything like that comeout of anyone's mouth. MGM was almost not allowed to release the picture because of that word. Today we throw it around[in the media] like it is nothing. Even though it wasn't frequent in the media back then, people said the word off camera. Even after that movie was made, you very rarely ever heard that word again in a film, until the late fifties, early sixties. There was a slight quantum leap as far as scripted venacular was concerned. In other words, someone eventually picked back up on that and seen this in a different perspective, and this gave the green light to have curse words scripted into movies or TV. TV really didn't pick up on that until the late 60's or 70's. Tv was mostly about family entertainment.
You don't hear about the rave in curse words, as widely as you do about the fact Lucy and facing the facts of life. So in closing I would say perhaps someone would eventually picked up on it as the values and standards changed with the times, But "Lucy" played a major part of getting it going. Make any sense?

On a lighter note the first pornographic words on TV uttered were on Leave it to Beaver. "Ward, don't you think you were a little 'rough on the beaver last night' "? ;) Just a little joke. This is what we perceive now, back then I don't think that would have been taken as being explicit.

Probably a little of both. I think the 60s changed a lot of things about TV...and the way the US thought as a whole.

That's an excellent question crazyredhead. I think the barriers would have been broke reguardless of who broke them and how. :) She just happened to be one of the first.

Desi also broke barriers by being if not the first (I can't think of anyone else) THE FIRST) non-American on a tv show and be accepted and liked. That, broke a lot of barriers for today's market. He was also the first owner and President of his own production company and tv studio. And the use of film to record a sitcom with 3 cameras (still used today) instead of kinescope and the invention of the rerun.:D

Yeah i curse him every time i see a rerun! LOL! Doesn't it make you wince though that we were ever that dumb, that two people on a tv show had to be shown in twin beds and all that other nonsense, and that they had to think they would be cancelled because she got pregnant?

IT was just the mentality back then; probably since a bed is not the only place to get preg they left that open to the imagination :wink:

Yeah with the way Lucy and Desi were mad for eachother, I mean come on people, He is a hot Latino, and she was gorgeous with those big Blues of hers, you think they confined their love to one small room?
I cannot just picture them saying to eachother, "Your bed or mine?":wink:

Originally posted by NostalgiaAce777
Yeah with the way Lucy and Desi were mad for eachother, I mean come on people, He is a hot Latino, and she was gorgeous with those big Blues of hers, you think they confined their love to one small room?
I cannot just picture them saying to eachother, "Your bed or mine?":wink:

How 'bout, "Your shower or mine?" ;)

Good one dawsongirl, I was gonna be more frank, but didn't want to offend anyone here. Anyone would have to know they were hot and heavy, at least in real life I would think.;)

Kitchen table? Couch? Floor? Rear balcony? Hallway? Closet? Piano bench? Even the oven door sometimes stretched to six feet or more, LOL!

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Kitchen table? Couch? Floor? Rear balcony? Hallway? Closet? Piano bench? Even the oven door sometimes stretched to six feet or more, LOL!

You are too much and with lots of IMAGINATION! :lol:

Let's not encourage him now!

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Kitchen table? Couch? Floor? Rear balcony? Hallway? Closet? Piano bench? Even the oven door sometimes stretched to six feet or more, LOL!

:lol: You forgot the car.

The shower, definitely the shower, after stomping in the grapes and the candy factory incident, wearing the handcuffs AND the loving cup on her head.

Funny Cathy, i thought of the car the minute i closed the laptop!

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Funny Cathy, i thought of the car the minute i closed the laptop!

:lol:

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Funny Cathy, i thought of the car the minute i closed the laptop!

Looks like it's been a while:lol:

Not since Claire died, i didn't want to be unfaithful. But lately, i've been nervous so she came to me in a dream and said hey, what do I care, you weren't that good anyway! Try and make it to the bed this time, she added, saucy wench, even up there, she's still funny! Hope she plays backgammon with Lucy now and then!

A while? Yeah, you could say that, i was the inspiration for that famous scene in Scary Movie.

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Not since Claire died, i didn't want to be unfaithful. But lately, i've been nervous so she came to me in a dream and said hey, what do I care, you weren't that good anyway! Try and make it to the bed this time, she added, saucy wench, even up there, she's still funny! Hope she plays backgammon with Lucy now and then!

Oustpoken too huh? My kind of woman:D

Originally posted by SPLAIN
A while? Yeah, you could say that, i was the inspiration for that famous scene in Scary Movie.

Never watched that movie.. too :rolleyes: for me

But i DARE you to watch and NOT laugh at the scene where the guy FINALLY gets the girl, in bed and what happens to the bedroom, well, maybe it's a GUY thing, i dunno, thought it was funny as i could relate, LOL!

Originally posted by SPLAIN
But i DARE you to watch and NOT laugh at the scene where the guy FINALLY gets the girl, in bed and what happens to the bedroom, well, maybe it's a GUY thing, i dunno, thought it was funny as i could relate, LOL!

I think I know what you are talking about; still :rolleyes: . I guess it's a guy thing;)

It's just that after 50 years of watching comedy, they RARELY ever find anything that can make me laugh. But that DID!

I guess I have lost my sense of humor:rolleyes: With my kids around all day when they are finally in bed I've lost everything

Awwwwwwww come on now, i'lll bet you many of these threads are amking you HOT, LOL!

they're not amking me! I don't even know what that means. Must be some weird Canadian thing..............:)

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Awwwwwwww come on now, i'lll bet you many of these threads are amking you HOT, LOL!

Yeah, weird canadians like ya make a hot latina like me think twice about everything!:lol:

Originally posted by SPLAIN
Kitchen table? Couch? Floor? Rear balcony? Hallway? Closet? Piano bench? Even the oven door sometimes stretched to six feet or more, LOL!

LOL!! *breathes* Do you think you left anythin' out?? :lol:

He had forgotten about the 'backseat' of the car or rather the hood?? :D :lol:

Ya know, I was just thinking on the way back from my trip (I have just GOT to get my mind out of the gutter) that maybe there's some lost uncensored episode of ILL! Duuude...I would pay to see that! It just might answer some questions! :lol:

Originally posted by I'maDESIlover
He had forgotten about the 'backseat' of the car or rather the hood?? :D :lol:

There ya go, Karen! ;) :lol:

On the stove on a cold day, in front of the open refrigerator on a hot day, a guy can come up with different places all day and let's face it, Desi had done it everywhere and every way. And Lucy too. And one day 40 years from now, we'll know with who, LOL!

That poem sums up their lives pretty well! LOL!

Well, at least they had a good time while on earth! Let's see, Desi with Grable, and Lucy with Hope, maybe Fonda or Stewart, and Desi well, most women in Hopllywood and new york and most parts in between, LOL!

LOL! :lol:

Well back then, just having sex did NOT mean a death sentence if the OTHER person had aids or anything like that, they were very lucky back then in that respect, so more power to them.