View Full Version : Am I alone in being a fan of ILL & L-DCH but...


dlemond
03-25-2004, 02:07 PM
not of The Lucy Show or Here's Lucy?

I just love the four of them together and otherwise I find myself not interested (though Lucy and Viv stayed together for a while).

Anyone else, or am I alone in my blasphemy?

SPLAIN
03-25-2004, 03:16 PM
Well, sorta, LOL! Maybe the reason is that like most of her fans, you NEVER see those OTHER two series. SOME of those shows were just as good if not BETTER than any I Love Lucy episode, of course some also were terrible, but then even the GREAT I Love Lucy had Drafted and a few other stinkers, LOL!

Fran=Lucy
03-25-2004, 03:30 PM
Haha. Don't feel bad. A lot of people prefer I Love Lucy and The Lucy-Desi CH over The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy. SPLAIN is right, a lot of people don't get to see the other shows. I personally love all 4 of them. Although, I gotta be honest...*whispering* I prefer I Love Lucy. :D ;) :D

Ricardos4ever
03-25-2004, 03:58 PM
I'm as much of a Desi Arnaz fan as I am a Lucille Ball fan, so during one of the rare times that I do get to see one of Lucy's other sitcoms, I feel like it is a real treat, yet I miss Desi's presence.

SPLAIN
03-25-2004, 04:20 PM
Yeah, it was never the same with a banker instead of a husband, you're right, but some of them were gems just like the original series.

hawaii five-o
03-25-2004, 09:20 PM
My favorite episodes of "The Lucy Show" are from the first season, when it's pretty much Lucy, Viv, and the kids. Mr. Mooney kind of got on my nerves.

dawsongirl
03-26-2004, 02:10 AM
*raises hand* I don't like The Lucy Show and only like the Here's Lucy eps with Desi Jr....cuz, well, he was cute. :D

Ethel2Tillie
03-26-2004, 10:13 AM
I enjoy watching Lucy's other sitcoms, but nothing compares to the chemistry that Lucy, Desi, Viv and Bill had together.

SPLAIN
03-26-2004, 11:55 AM
Sorry, but when you haven't seen them for decades, watching eps of The Lucy show or here's lucy are just as great as I Love Lucy, BUT i admit they don't have the longevity though!

Lodee
03-26-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by dawsongirl
*raises hand* I don't like The Lucy Show and only like the Here's Lucy eps with Desi Jr....cuz, well, he was cute. :D At least you have a good reason! :lol:

SPLAIN
03-26-2004, 02:13 PM
Dawson girl and her men, now that would be SOME miniseries. She has good taste though! But she never did exit the fifties and sixties.:lol:

Lodee
03-26-2004, 02:50 PM
Desi Jr was cute on here's Lucy!

crazyredhead
03-26-2004, 03:06 PM
I Love Lucy will always be my #1 choice by a mile, but I've got a couple of dvds of The Lucy Show and I have to say I quite enjoyed them. They were even the later ones, without Viv. I have never seen an episode of Here's Lucy, but I would like to see one with both of her kids in it.

SPLAIN
03-26-2004, 03:17 PM
You're correct Bekah, the Lucy shows on DVD are not the BEST ones by any means, and Here's Lucy had some GREAT shows with HER kids, they were all natural together, understandably, and Lucy ALWAYS worked best when it was with people she loved, if i know anything about her, it's THAT! And she LOVED working with her kids! And yes, it's true, Desi jr was quite the matinee idol in those days, i remember, a rock star at 12 or 13 and it just intensified from there.

hawaii five-o
03-26-2004, 05:30 PM
What I don't like about the California episodes of "The Lucy Show" is that there were only two major plots:

1. Lucy does something stupid and Mr. Mooney fires her.

2. Lucy schemes to meet a famous celebrity.

dawsongirl
03-26-2004, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by SPLAIN
Dawson girl and her men, now that would be SOME miniseries. She has good taste though! But she never did exit the fifties and sixties.:lol:

I made it as far as the 70's, and then got lost. :lol:

dawsongirl
03-26-2004, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by SPLAIN
And yes, it's true, Desi jr was quite the matinee idol in those days, i remember, a rock star at 12 or 13 and it just intensified from there.

And then, for some reason, he dated Liza Minelli. I hope she was sane back then.

dawsongirl
03-26-2004, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by hawaii five-o
What I don't like about the California episodes of "The Lucy Show" is that there were only two major plots:

1. Lucy does something stupid and Mr. Mooney fires her.

2. Lucy schemes to meet a famous celebrity.

Here's Lucy was a little better. At least one kid stayed throughout the run.

Except the writers reduced themselves to stuff like this:

Lucy meets a prince. Fine. The prince is played by Ricardo Montalban, so the writers thought it would be haha funny if the made up country he was from was...Montalbania. Even the audience groaned! :lol:

LucyFan
03-28-2004, 06:11 PM
Here are my thoughts . . .

First, I love all of Lucy's sitcoms including her very last one. Lucille Ball, IMO, was great throughout her episodic career on television. It's very hard, at least for me, to identify what show she was the weakest as far as talent and comedy goes because to be quite honest . . . all of her shows showcased them.

Second, for most Lucy fans, I too was first introduced to her original show, I Love Lucy. After watching my first episode of it, I immediately fell in love with it (not literally though). For the next three years, I occasionly watch an episode here or there until my interest of it took the best of me in the Summer of 1997. The day I began to tape I Love Lucy . . . Saturday, July 19th, 1997 was when I officially became a fan of the show. The rest is history after that day.

Third, her original show led me to be curious about her later shows. I wanted to see what they were like and how they compared to her original series. I wanted to see if they were just as good or even better than I Love Lucy. My constant wondering led me to tape Here's Lucy on Pax-TV as well as acquire The Lucy Show episodes through tape trading. Watching her later shows for the first time was not only a blast, but refreshing. Her later shows helped me keep my interest in Lucille Ball as well as becoming one of her biggest fans.

Fourth, I love each of her shows dearly but through the test of time (2000-2003) . . . I Love Lucy clearly stands out to be my #1 favorite Lucille Ball show. I'm not saying that her later shows are lesser value of her original . . . because they're not. I will be the first one to admit that. What I'm saying is . . . her original show did many things for me that later shows couldn't surpass or do better. But as we know, tastes change and my favorite Lucille Ball show could change. But as of now, I love all 5 Lucy sitcoms equally.

Larry Surrell
03-30-2004, 11:19 PM
Although I liked The Lucy Show, Here's Lucy and even Life with Lucy, they didn't seem to be as well written as I Love Lucy. I remember some later episodes that looked like re-hashed I Love Lucy episodes too. For example, Lucy accidentally wins a fortune gambling and loses it all on one last accidental bet.

I did enjoy some of the celebrity shows, especially the one with Jack Benny. The traps they had to pass to get to his safe was histerical :lol:

SPLAIN
04-01-2004, 09:51 PM
But the fact remains that SOME episodes of her later series were funnier and better than the original series, and some were bad as some of the I Love Lucy shows were, though very few. Also, there's another factor, at a certain point, we see Lucille Ball instead of a character and we cheer Lucy the Queen of TV or the first lady of comedy and the audience laughs at the recognition, the fame, the status and the built up love they've stored for her over the years. Look at the Life with Lucy shows, they cheer because they worship the woman and she can get laughs with straight lines.

NostalgiaAce777
04-02-2004, 03:18 PM
Personally, I like the black and white episodes of The Lucy Show, I didn't care too much for them when she moved to California. Viv was gone, and the kids. Here's Lucy isn't my cup of tea either, cept for the one where Lucy meets Lucille Ball, that was cute.
I prefer I Love Lucy myself. I am not all that crazy about TLDCH, which for a short time ran as We Love Lucy on TBS, as a two parter. This was in the early/mid 90's.
TLDCH marked the end of her relationship with Desi. That was too sad, and I refuse to watch Lucy meets the Mustache.
Then she married 'ol Morton What's his Lame'.
She never had the chemistry in any of those other shows as she had when it was Lucy Ricky Fred and Ethel. Even though there was much more to that lady than just I Love Lucy that most fans I find overlook. I Love Lucy is what turned the page for her.

As for LWL, I think it is novel and cute, but I think it hurt her career just a tad. I know some stories behind it, and I read some on it. Did you know she really did not want to do this series?

lucyrules
04-02-2004, 04:37 PM
And you call yourself a Lucy fan!:joke:

I Love Carol Burnett!
04-02-2004, 04:46 PM
My personal favorite is The Lucy Show because Mr Mooney and her are hilarious! I love it, but I like the other ones too!

dawsongirl
04-02-2004, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by NostalgiaAce777

Then she married 'ol Morton What's his Lame'.

:rotflmao:


As for LWL, I think it is novel and cute, but I think it hurt her career just a tad. I know some stories behind it, and I read some on it. Did you know she really did not want to do this series?

I think one of the biggest problems with that show was the horrendous overacting by the supporting characters. The people that played her daughter and son in law were TERRIBLE.

NostalgiaAce777
04-03-2004, 12:51 AM
Yes, It was a sad commentary really. Everybody was so cartoon like and looney. Even Gale Gordon whom had always played straightman to Lucy's antic in her other three shows.

The show just wasn't done right. First of all Lucy didn't want to even do it in the first place, she was kind of forced into it I beleive, because she had said countless times in interviews she could never top what she had done and also she wouldn't do it because all of her friends were gone.
2nd, Lucy was way too mature to be playing a goofy scatterbrained woman. They should have given her a little more oomph and zest. No looniness. She should have played someone more like Sophia Petrillo in The Golden Girls, or kept the zaniness like with Yetta played by Ann Guilbert in The Nanny.
The healthfood, excercising nut didn't work out for her. Let her be a little more dramatic like Bea Arthur, not exactly like her, but the abruptness and cockiness.
I am sorry but it was way to "Disney like" for me.

Anyways moving on.

The Carol Burnett episode of The Lucy Show, in which Lucy and Carol are in Flight school was hilarious. Carol really stole the show with her facial expressions and reactions.

SPLAIN
04-03-2004, 07:27 PM
B U T i still say that anybody sick to death of the endless I love Lucy reruns would get a kick out of seing her best shows of The Lucy show or Here's Lucy, some were just terrific. The ones that criticize them usually haven't seen them in years. Or in some cases, they've never even seen them. Bring them all out for us to buy and then we can all vote on it! LOL!

NostalgiaAce777
04-03-2004, 09:02 PM
My thoughts are give it time like 10 to 15 years down the road, perhaps even sooner, and we will have IT ALL at our grasp. I am talking rare interviews and tv shows. We are already having this digital craze and so many disks, and on demand cable. I am just seeing us all typing it in on our computers or selecting menus on Tv Boxes. Someday there will be no need for disks or tapes. It is already happening. If 20 years ago, recording media to magnetic tape was the rage and ten years ago we were adding things to disks, now we save it on computer, someday I can see no need for saving anything, all impromptu selections.

Lodee
04-03-2004, 10:13 PM
I don't know, I think I'd still want some backup disks. What if the computer crashed?? It's a cool idea though.

dawsongirl
04-04-2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by NostalgiaAce777
She should have played someone more like Sophia Petrillo in The Golden Girls, or kept the zaniness like with Yetta played by Ann Guilbert in The Nanny.


:lol: That would have been cool.

dawsongirl
04-04-2004, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by NostalgiaAce777
My thoughts are give it time like 10 to 15 years down the road, perhaps even sooner, and we will have IT ALL at our grasp. I am talking rare interviews and tv shows. We are already having this digital craze and so many disks, and on demand cable. I am just seeing us all typing it in on our computers or selecting menus on Tv Boxes. Someday there will be no need for disks or tapes. It is already happening. If 20 years ago, recording media to magnetic tape was the rage and ten years ago we were adding things to disks, now we save it on computer, someday I can see no need for saving anything, all impromptu selections.

I want a world where I can turn on my satellite receiver, tell it I want to see, like, the first episode of Automan ( :lol: ) and there it is, uncut and digital. I'd have any and every show ever made at my fingertips.

NostalgiaAce777
04-04-2004, 01:36 AM
It would definitely be a lot of signal traffic, and God forbid it did crash, yeah I would want some back up disks too.

But It would be so convenient to watch what I want when I want.
Imagine all the cable staions that would be out of work.

SPLAIN
04-04-2004, 08:43 PM
Guess that's why they are always so surprised that all of us fans make copies for each other, i mean how else are we gonna see her great work if they don't SELL the stuff in the marketplace?