Some of you probably know there are many people here with learning disabilites including EricIdleFan - she has Aspberger's Syndrome.

She needs to be given some slack. She goes off on people when she feels she's cornered. The boards would improve greatly if the bullying would stop. I've already suggested that if you are bothered by her (or anyone else for that matter), that you put them on your ignore list. You wouldn't have to read their posts or private messages or anything, it would be like they weren't even here. The claim that you wouldn't know if they were talking about you behind your back is bull****, why should you even care?

Put yourself in her shoes for a minute. She's not perfect and has said some not too nice things, but she doesn't need to be ganged up on by everybody 24/7.

safety pin (Sarah) was clearly the biggest offender and ringleader, but many others stepped in and were just as bad. She was warned repeatedly to stop it, but she chose not to. Bullying EricIdleFan has become a nasty sport and I'm ashamed of the behavior.

I think it's best also that she takes a break from the boards also, as she has been out of control lately.

When did the boards go so bad? I remember when they used to be so much fun and people got along for the most part.

We've already lost so many good members to the fights, I don't want to lose any more.

What is Aspberger's Syndrome?

Asperger Syndrome or (Asperger's Disorder) is a neurobiological disorder named for a Viennese physician, Hans Asperger, who in 1944 published a paper which described a pattern of behaviors in several young boys who had normal intelligence and language development, but who also exhibited autistic-like behaviors and marked deficiencies in social and communication skills. In spite of the publication of his paper in the 1940's, it wasn't until 1994 that Asperger Syndrome was added to the DSM IV and only in the past few years has AS been recognized by professionals and parents.

Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes, smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see. It's important to remember that the person with AS perceives the world very differently. Therefore, many behaviors that seem odd or unusual are due to those neurological differences and not the result of intentional rudeness or bad behavior, and most certainly not the result of "improper parenting".

By definition, those with AS have a normal IQ and many individuals (although not all), exhibit exceptional skill or talent in a specific area. Because of their high degree of functionality and their naiveté, those with AS are often viewed as eccentric or odd and can easily become victims of teasing and bullying. While language development seems, on the surface, normal, individuals with AS often have deficits in pragmatics and prosody. Vocabularies may be extraordinarily rich and some children sound like "little professors." However, persons with AS can be extremely literal and have difficulty using language in a social context.

At this time there is a great deal of debate as to exactly where AS fits. It is presently described as an autism spectrum disorder and Uta Frith, in her book AUTISM AND ASPERGER'S SYNDROME, described AS individuals as "having a dash of Autism". Some professionals feel that AS is the same as High Functioning Autism, while others feel that it is better described as a Nonverbal Learning Disability. AS shares many of the characteristics of PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder; Not otherwise specified), HFA, and NLD and because it was virtually unknown until a few years ago, many individuals either received an incorrect diagnosis or remained undiagnosed. For example, it is not at all uncommon for a child who was initially diagnosed with ADD or ADHD be re-diagnosed with AS. In addition, some individuals who were originally diagnosed with HFA or PDD-NOS are now being given the AS diagnosis and many individuals have a dual diagnosis of Asperger Syndrome and High Functioning Autism.

I agree. I was going to mention that she has a learning disabilty (who doesn't?) but I think it was better that it came from you. As some people already know, I am autistic and I can imagine being in her shoes very easily. It just makes my blood boil when things like this happen. I won't get started on it again because it does no good repeating myself.

I admit that I once bullied her but that was back in December and I have not even spoken to her since. Why? Because I realized that she might have a learning disability like me.

Thanks for posting this, Todd. You hit the nail right on the head.

I had no idea that EricIdlefan has a condition. :(

Originally posted by ElvisDustyfan
I had no idea that EricIdlefan has a condition. :(

me neither and I feel bad that people were bullying her and if they knew she had a problem that makes it so much worse.

It pisses me off that people have nothing better to do in their own lives than to make fun of or harrass people who are different than them.

thanks for letting us know TJ

I never had any problems with her and I realized she may have a learning disability, so do I. I didn't get enough oxygen to my brain when I was born and I have a small delay in my brain and my mom thinks I may be mildly dyslexic.

I didn't even know about this. I am very sorry. :( I wouldn't have done all of this nonsense if I knew that. :(

Thanks for the article, TJ.

It wouldn't have been ok even if she didn't have a learning disability.

I always thought she had one, but until I received a message pavanbadal forwarded to me I didn't know what she had.

Originally posted by Brent88
I didn't even know about this. I am very sorry. :( I wouldn't have done all of this nonsense if I knew that. :(

I feel badly, too, as I said a few things I shouldn't have. Shelby, if you can somehow see this, I'm very sorry for what I said. :(

Originally posted by TJ
It wouldn't have been ok even if she didn't have a learning disability.

I always thought she had one, but until I received a message pavanbadal forwarded to me I didn't know what she had.

I agree, it wasn't ok and it's not ok to bully anyone. I feel ashamed. :(

.....Well, I could tell that there was something obviously different about her, and that's why I just never said anything....even though her posts were a little annoying, they werent serious enough to go crazy over...

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
.....Well, I could tell that there was something obviously different about her, and that's why I just never said anything....even though her posts were a little annoying, they werent serious enough to go crazy over...

I agree

Originally posted by °Bubbly Blonde°
.....Well, I could tell that there was something obviously different about her, and that's why I just never said anything....even though her posts were a little annoying, they werent serious enough to go crazy over...

Honestly, I thought she was a little bratty kid, who lied about her age. If I'd thought she had problems, I would have never said anything.

I was aware of it, and the symtoms are very hard to control. I agree that Sarah was pretty hard on her. But keep in mind that other posters who come here don't start fights. edwardwoodbine is a good example. He suffers from cerebral palsy. He doesn't try to start fights with other posters here. I understand his condition, and respect his views. I'm not going to criticize him for his mistakes that he can't obviously control. And the same goes for Shelby. I'm glad you brought up this issue, TJ.

Originally posted by Jenya
I was aware of it, and the symtoms are very hard to control. I agree that Sarah was pretty hard on her. But keep in mind that other posters who come here don't start fights. edwardwoodbine is a good example. He suffers from cerebral palsy. He doesn't try to start fights with other posters here. I understand his condition, and respect his views. I'm not going to criticize him for his mistakes that he can't obviously control. And the same goes for Shelby. I'm glad you brought up this issue, TJ.

Like Brian pointed out, he's autistic, but he doesn't start fights either. I mean, I can understand the whole not being able to interact with people well thing, but I guess I would think they could still be taught not to insult people. Oh well.

Originally posted by Jenya
I was aware of it, and the symtoms are very hard to control. I agree that Sarah was pretty hard on her. But keep in mind that other posters who come here don't start fights. edwardwoodbine is a good example. He suffers from cerebral palsy. He doesn't try to start fights with other posters here. I understand his condition, and respect his views. I'm not going to criticize him for his mistakes that he can't obviously control. And the same goes for Shelby. I'm glad you brought up this issue, TJ.

Cerebral Palsy doesn't cause people to lash out though it's a disease that effects muscles and speech. I have a family member with it and she's paralyzed and in a wheelchair and you can't really understand what she says.

You can't compare a physical disorder with a mental one Jenya.

I really wish EricIdleFan would have spoken up sooner, I think a lot of this could have been avoided and people could have been educated about her condition and be able to work with her better.

See, this is why I don't like to pick on people I don't know.

Originally posted by ElvisDustyfan
I had no idea that EricIdlefan has a condition. :(

My God, me either...now that explains everything. It would have helped if we all would have known before. And no one, like Sarah and others including myself should be in too much trouble for ever saying anything to her. It's not like we knew...most younger kids talk like that. I'll definately lay off of her now...

Originally posted by TJ
You can't compare a physical disorder with a mental one Jenya.

I really wish EricIdleFan would have spoken up sooner, I think a lot of this could have been avoided and people could have been educated about her condition and be able to work with her better.

I agree 100%, TJ. But believe it or not, I still had to PM a few people who criticized Edward Woodbine's run-on sentences he made here. In any case, hopefully this is a lesson to all of us who criticize Shelby and others. I think a lot of us pre-judged her, and it was wrong.

Originally posted by M82A1
See, this is why I don't like to pick on people I don't know.

That's a very good idea, because (especially over the internet) you never know who might be affected with what.

Originally posted by TJ
You can't compare a physical disorder with a mental one Jenya.

I really wish EricIdleFan would have spoken up sooner, I think a lot of this could have been avoided and people could have been educated about her condition and be able to work with her better.

She might not have wanted people to know alot of people with problems like this don't want to be treated better only because they have a problem.

Originally posted by Jenya
I agree 100%, TJ. But believe it or not, I still had to PM a few people who criticized Edward Woodbine's run-on sentences he made here. In any case, hopefully this is a lesson to all of us who criticize Shelby and others. I think a lot of us pre-judged her, and it was wrong.

It's definately a lesson to me. I'm not going to judge anyone on the internet, again.

Originally posted by TJ

I really wish EricIdleFan would have spoken up sooner, I think a lot of this could have been avoided and people could have been educated about her condition and be able to work with her better.


While that would make sense, knowing that she had a condition wouldn't change her responses, the way she was, and while some people would tolerate it "b/c she has a condition" others wouldn't...she still would annoy people and they still would treat her the same...jmo...

I really don't think alot people would have treated her the same way, just by judging from some of these replies.

It's fine if people thinks she is annoying, but they shouldn't gang up on her because of it. She wouldn't have been treated nearly as badly.

Originally posted by TJ

When did the boards go so bad? I remember when they used to be so much fun and people got along for the most part.

We've already lost so many good members to the fights, I don't want to lose any more.

God, tell me about it. I don't know why I'm still here when obviously things are so bad. This site is just so addicting, whether or not it's enjoyable. I remember the days of late 2001/early 2002. But then the summer of 2002 took a turn for the worst and the boards have gone to hell ever since. If only we can get the original people back. Mossopp, Bootsy, Cokies, Max, etc. :(

Sarah responds:

I dont mean to sound like a brat and im not nagging you to let me back but i dont think i should have been suspended.. first of all i had no idea ericidlefan had a mental disability but i apologize for not considering that might be the case. If i knew i would have been alot more easy on her. i wasnt the only one that argued with her, and the only reason i did was because she would keep going off at me. In her apology thread, i told her what annoys us about her (it might seem like i was making fun of her but i wasnt) and she got mad at me and called me a smartmouth or whatever. she's been doing things like that and making up stuff about me the past few days, and it pissed me off so i snapped back at her. If it all has to do with her disability then apologize reacting that way because i didn't know. and again, i just wrote this to clear everything up, im not throwing a fit because i'm suspended. i just don't think i should be, but if i am then that's fine.

Originally posted by *A TV People*
My God, me either...now that explains everything. It would have helped if we all would have known before. And no one, like Sarah and others including myself should be in too much trouble for ever saying anything to her. It's not like we knew...most younger kids talk like that. I'll definately lay off of her now...

Yeah....:(

I think that we all have the smarts to know when to chill out on something and not resort to yelling and namecalling. When it is being done, it's just another form of abusing the boards for his/her own purposes. Let's just all exercise wisdom for the near future.

Originally posted by TJ
Sarah responds:

I dont mean to sound like a brat and im not nagging you to let me back but i dont think i should have been suspended.. first of all i had no idea ericidlefan had a mental disability but i apologize for not considering that might be the case. If i knew i would have been alot more easy on her. i wasnt the only one that argued with her, and the only reason i did was because she would keep going off at me. In her apology thread, i told her what annoys us about her (it might seem like i was making fun of her but i wasnt) and she got mad at me and called me a smartmouth or whatever. she's been doing things like that and making up stuff about me the past few days, and it pissed me off so i snapped back at her. If it all has to do with her disability then apologize reacting that way because i didn't know. and again, i just wrote this to clear everything up, im not throwing a fit because i'm suspended. i just don't think i should be, but if i am then that's fine.

IMO, I don't think she needs to be suspended either. She's not the only one who was fighting with EIF. I know I've said some things to her, too...but I don't think that means anyone needs to be suspended considering we had no idea anything was up with EIF, and I know I'm sorry about any of the mean things I've said.

Originally posted by *A TV People*
IMO, I don't think she needs to be suspended either. She's not the only one who was fighting with EIF. I know I've said some things to her, too...but I don't think that means anyone needs to be suspended considering we had no idea anything was up with EIF, and I know I'm sorry about any of the mean things I've said.

I agree, I think since Sarah didn't know, like many of us, she should be given another chance. JMO.

Sarah is just a mean-spirited person, it was not just towards EricIdleFan but many other people. She needs to change her act if she wants to come back. She doesn't have an excuse.

Originally posted by ThomasE
I think that we all have the smarts to know when to chill out on something and not resort to yelling and namecalling. When it is being done, it's just another form of abusing the boards for his/her own purposes. Let's just all exercise wisdom for the near future.

ThomasE, another great member who's been a no show lately. Where've you been man?

Safety Pin isn't banned, she is suspended. Maybe it's better to let things cool off a little while before she comes back.

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
God, tell me about it. I don't know why I'm still here when obviously things are so bad. This site is just so addicting, whether or not it's enjoyable. I remember the days of late 2001/early 2002. But then the summer of 2002 took a turn for the worst and the boards have gone to hell ever since. If only we can get the original people back. Mossopp, Bootsy, Cokies, Max, etc. :( Well, studies have shown that when you put two mice in a cage, they will get along fine. But when you put 20 mice in a cage, there is bound to be a scuffle or two.

Originally posted by M82A1
Well, studies have shown that when you put two mice in a cage, they will get along fine. But when you put 20 mice in a cage, there is bound to be a scuffle or two.

It's not really that, the number of people who actually post on a day to day basis hasn't changed that dramatially (For every new person, an old member left.) People just seemed more mature back then. The only problem we had was the Nancy Cult. They're not a concern anymore though because they all either left or realized Nancy wasn't God. :lol:

I am sorry if I said anything that might have hurt her feelings---I don't really think I did. I tried to be nice to her, and she never really bothered me.

The thing is... we didn't know she had a learning disability. You're making it sound as if thats why we told her off when she was completely off topic or whatever other things she said or did. That's not true.

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
It's not really that, the number of people who actually post on a day to day basis hasn't changed that dramatially (For every new person, an old member left.) People just seemed more mature back then. The only problem we had was the Nancy Cult. They're not a concern anymore though because they all either left or realized Nancy wasn't God. :lol: Nancy cult? :lol:

TJ's point was regardless, the bullying of an individual is Bull----!

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
It's not really that, the number of people who actually post on a day to day basis hasn't changed that dramatially (For every new person, an old member left.) People just seemed more mature back then. The only problem we had was the Nancy Cult. They're not a concern anymore though because they all either left or realized Nancy wasn't God. :lol:

You mean there was a Nancy cult and I didn't get to join? DAMN IT! LOL

Originally posted by MandieR1980
You mean there was a Nancy cult and I didn't get to join? DAMN IT! LOL

:lol:

Originally posted by M82A1
Nancy cult? :lol:

You missed the most hilarious board trend to ever grace SO. I'll give you the link to the most famous fight on this board. It's 19 pages long though, so if you want to enjoy the experience fully, make sure you have time. :lol:

Here. (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18533&highlight=Nancy+McKeon+cant+act)

Originally posted by Brian Damage
TJ's point was regardless, the bullying of an individual is Bull----!

I agree. By the way, Has Solomon been talkin too lately? Just wondering. :)

I won't mention who it was, but that thread was started by a moderator here who did it as a joke. Those were the days...

I feel like a heel for snapping at her last night and this afternoon. Later on, I sent her a message, and she willingly told me about the asperger's. I'm glad she decided to send pav a message.

Originally posted by TJ
I won't mention who it was, but that thread was started by a moderator here who did it as a joke. Those were the days...

Get out.

You mean a mod purposely registered a new name just to post that and provoke all the Nancy fanatics to a brawl with Bootsy?!

You have got to be kidding me. If it's true, it was one of the greatest stunts ever pulled. :lol: :rotflmao:

But come on TJ, you can't just say that and not tell us who posted it. ;)

Originally posted by Jenya
I agree. By the way, Has Solomon been talkin too lately? Just wondering. :)

Me and Solomon have a love/hate relationship Just as long as he doesn't mention Good Times is not a spinoff, we're straight.

I will be taking that secret to my grave. :)

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
You missed the most hilarious board trend to ever grace SO. I'll give you the link to the most famous fight on this board. It's 19 pages long though, so if you want to enjoy the experience fully, make sure you have time. :lol:

Here. (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18533&highlight=Nancy+McKeon+cant+act)

OMG I remember that I guess I was part of it woohoo! I wouldn't really call it a cult Nancy's fans are VERY loyal. We can't stand anyone talking about her like that like many people can't stand the same thing about people they admire.

Originally posted by TJ
I will be taking that secret to my grave. :)

Oh so you did it huh? LOL

Originally posted by TJ
I will be taking that secret to my grave. :)

Was it callmetootie? Pavanbadal? Seth? Don't tell me it was YOU. :lol: Hey, you already spilled, and cant go back. Why not just reveal it. You know I'm just going to bring it up over and over again...;).

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Me and Solomon have a love/hate relationship Just as long as he doesn't mention Good Times is not a spinoff, we're straight.

Okay....As a Russkie, I don't remember that show. But I guess that doesn't matter to me! ;)

Originally posted by ElvisDustyfan
Honestly, I thought she was a little bratty kid, who lied about her age. If I'd thought she had problems, I would have never said anything.
That's what I thought, and I said a few things hurtful, but I would have never done this if I'd have known about her condition. :( I just naturally assumed she was some kid trying to stir up trouble by posting comments to kinda tick people off, because some of her posts made a whole lot of sense and then others didnt.

Originally posted by Jenya
Okay....As a Russkie, I don't remember that show. But I guess that doesn't matter to me! ;)

It's all good :D Solomon does come out with some doozies some times. ;)

Originally posted by Brian Damage
It's all good :D Solomon does come out with some doozies some times. ;)

His fire escape comment was the most hilarious thing I have ever read on these boards for the longest time. Incase anyone missed it, here's what I'm talking about.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93029&perpage=15&highlight=fire%20escapeLOL&pagenumber=4

While I agree that the picking on EricIdleFan was getting out of hand, I don't see how having that disease makes you put 2 exclmation points after everything, and 4 or 5 smiley's. I'm sorry if I did anything to her...I don't remember saying anything offensive...but I have a tendency to forget saything things.



By the way...the Nancy cult was not a cult. It's a religion. Nancy is God. :D

I'm very pleased with TJ's announcement, and I commend him for making this decision. It's wonderful to see him step up to the plate and show compassion towards EricIdleFan.

Banning her forever would have been the easy way out. Instead, he took the time to research her condition, and realized that she deserves our understanding and patience.

I have assured TJ, that upon her return, this doesn't give her a license to act up either. I believe that her lashing out, for the most part, was rooted in her frustration at being targeted continuously. If left alone, I think we'll see a dramatic improvement in her behavior.

I think there will be a LOT less locked threads too. :)

I think she'll be accepted more now that we know more info about her.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
It's all good :D Solomon does come out with some doozies some times. ;)

I'm still laughing at the "Ritz is not a food it's a snack" comment LOL

Originally posted by Brian Damage
It's all good :D Solomon does come out with some doozies some times. ;) Solomon is actually a pretty decent guy:)

Don't get me wrong, when he is inspired he knows what he is talking about. There are other times where he throws me for a loop.

Originally posted by *Marilyn Monroe*
While I agree that the picking on EricIdleFan was getting out of hand, I don't see how having that disease makes you put 2 exclmation points after everything, and 4 or 5 smiley's.
The article that TJ posted mentions obsessive behavior and a fixation with 'sameness', so that may explain that.

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
God, tell me about it. I don't know why I'm still here when obviously things are so bad. This site is just so addicting, whether or not it's enjoyable. I remember the days of late 2001/early 2002. But then the summer of 2002 took a turn for the worst and the boards have gone to hell ever since. If only we can get the original people back. Mossopp, Bootsy, Cokies, Max, etc. :(

I miss them. They were cool. Plus, I want to know how long Max kept the blue hair. :lol:

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Me and Solomon have a love/hate relationship

:lol: Same here. -LOL

I think Solomon is the best. His posts are amusing, if silly at times. He's a cool guy. :cool:

Originally posted by Janice
I think Solomon is the best. His posts are amusing, if silly at times. He's a cool guy. :cool: He is an excellent person who you are looking for certain episodes of Good Times..Always helpful and an excellent person to trade with as well...

I don't know. Something just doens't strike me right. Oh well, I guess it's just me.

Hope things work out for the best. My apologies to any hurt parties.

So what, EricIdlefan is some sort of exception? We have to back off when she does things to upset us because she has a mental problem? Bull****. What about Sarah? She lost her mother a few years ago and suffers from depression, yet a lot of people won't cut her some slack. I don't see the moderators starting a thread to explain her emotional problems to other members in an effort to help them understand her. And don't even bother trying to say that EIF's mental disability is different than Sarah's emotional pains. Both people are affected by their problems. The way they feel and think and act can be caused by these problems of theirs.

I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I sure as hell don't think it's fair to excuse EricIdlefan because of her problem. We all have problems, some have it worse than others, and I'm sure many of you know that Sarah suffers from depression. Ever stop to think that maybe some of the things she says are caused by that? No, a lot of you didn't. You were just quick to yell at her, just as the moderators seem quick to call her on all of her mistakes and "suspend" her.

Originally posted by Sourbabie
So what, EricIdlefan is some sort of exception? We have to back off when she does things to upset us because she has a mental problem? Bull****. What about Sarah? She lost her mother a few years ago and suffers from depression, yet a lot of people won't cut her some slack. I don't see the moderators starting a thread to explain her emotional problems to other members in an effort to help them understand her. And don't even bother trying to say that EIF's mental disability is different than Sarah's emotional pains. Both people are affected by their problems. The way they feel and think and act can be caused by these problems of theirs.

I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I sure as hell don't think it's fair to excuse EricIdlefan because of her problem. We all have problems, some have it worse than others, and I'm sure many of you know that Sarah suffers from depression. Ever stop to think that maybe some of the things she says are caused by that? No, a lot of you didn't. You were just quick to yell at her, just as the moderators seem quick to call her on all of her mistakes
and "suspend" her.


What was some of the things ericldlefan did that was mean? i never knew she did things to make people mad?

Originally posted by Sourbabie
So what, EricIdlefan is some sort of exception? We have to back off when she does things to upset us because she has a mental problem? Bull****. What about Sarah? She lost her mother a few years ago and suffers from depression, yet a lot of people won't cut her some slack. I don't see the moderators starting a thread to explain her emotional problems to other members in an effort to help them understand her. And don't even bother trying to say that EIF's mental disability is different than Sarah's emotional pains. Both people are affected by their problems. The way they feel and think and act can be caused by these problems of theirs.

I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I sure as hell don't think it's fair to excuse EricIdlefan because of her problem. We all have problems, some have it worse than others, and I'm sure many of you know that Sarah suffers from depression. Ever stop to think that maybe some of the things she says are caused by that? No, a lot of you didn't. You were just quick to yell at her, just as the moderators seem quick to call her on all of her mistakes and "suspend" her.


Originally posted by Janice


I have assured TJ, that upon her return, this doesn't give her (EIF)a license to act up either

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
What was some of the things ericldlefan did that was mean? i never knew she did things to make people mad?
Please don't ask. This thread is certainly not going to turn into a rehashing of anyone's past behavior.

Originally posted by Janice
Please don't ask. This thread is certainly not going to turn into a rehashing of anyone's past behavior.


:nod:

Yes, EricIdleFan does have learning disability, but she has also been suspended. I asked her nicely to back off on what she was doing on the boards, and she goes crazy on me. She has a learning disability, but she uses that as an excuse to get away with things that she knows is not the right thing.

In the emails she sent me, she was very vulgar and rude. Calling myself, TJ and others very vulgar names. I took away her Chit Chat priveledges, and she got even more mad at me, so now Todd has suspended her. She even went on other message boards trashing SitcomsOnline.com and she "promises" she will get SitcomsOnline.com closed down.

If that's how she wants to act, she is gone for good.

WOW! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by pavanbadal
Yes, EricIdleFan does have learning disability, but she has also been suspended. I asked her nicely to back off on what she was doing on the boards, and she goes crazy on me. She has a learning disability, but she uses that as an excuse to get away with things that she knows is not the right thing.

In the emails she sent me, she was very vulgar and rude. Calling myself, TJ and others very vulgar names. I took away her Chit Chat priveledges, and she got even more mad at me, so now Todd has suspended her. She even went on other message boards trashing SitcomsOnline.com and she "promises" she will get SitcomsOnline.com closed down.

If that's how she wants to act, she is gone for good.


How were you able to find out she went on other message boards trashing S.O.? Just curious

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
How were you able to find out she went on other message boards trashing S.O.? Just curious


He goes to other TV message boards and usenet groups (like Google).

Originally posted by Brian
He goes to other TV message boards and usenet groups (like Google).

She also has been booted off several messageboards for constantly swearing and putting down other posters. It's definately a bad habit of hers, when things don't go her way.

0_o

Originally posted by Jenya
She also has been booted off several messageboards for constantly swearing and putting down other posters. It's definately a bad habit of hers, when things don't go her way.


One thing about most, if not all, people who are Autistic or have Aspergers is that they have a hard time adjusting to change or when their routine is disrupted, they don't like it because they want to do what they always do. She was posting here for months now and when that routine was disrupted, she didn't like it.

Everybody has to follow the rules. When you violate the terms of use, saying you have a learning disability is not an excuse. I know this because I have mentioned that I have one but I can still think before I do something and like Cathy mentioned, I don't start stuff. EIF saying that she is doing this is because she has Aspergers does not excuse her from her behavior.

Originally posted by Sourbabie
So what, EricIdlefan is some sort of exception? We have to back off when she does things to upset us because she has a mental problem? Bull****. What about Sarah? She lost her mother a few years ago and suffers from depression, yet a lot of people won't cut her some slack. I don't see the moderators starting a thread to explain her emotional problems to other members in an effort to help them understand her. And don't even bother trying to say that EIF's mental disability is different than Sarah's emotional pains. Both people are affected by their problems. The way they feel and think and act can be caused by these problems of theirs.

I am sorry if I upset anyone, but I sure as hell don't think it's fair to excuse EricIdlefan because of her problem. We all have problems, some have it worse than others, and I'm sure many of you know that Sarah suffers from depression. Ever stop to think that maybe some of the things she says are caused by that? No, a lot of you didn't. You were just quick to yell at her, just as the moderators seem quick to call her on all of her mistakes and "suspend" her.

I keep that in mind, because I'm a lot like that myself. I think anyone with any kind of problems should be laid off of, but not everyone knows about those problems, and no...it isn't fair.

And any kind of problems are also not an excuse for people to kiss that person's ass, I know I certainly won't to anyone. Sure, I'll keep it in mind and not be so hard on someone like that, but they don't deserve extra priveledges...that goes for anyone.

Originally posted by pavanbadal
Yes, EricIdleFan does have learning disability, but she has also been suspended. I asked her nicely to back off on what she was doing on the boards, and she goes crazy on me. She has a learning disability, but she uses that as an excuse to get away with things that she knows is not the right thing.

In the emails she sent me, she was very vulgar and rude. Calling myself, TJ and others very vulgar names. I took away her Chit Chat priveledges, and she got even more mad at me, so now Todd has suspended her. She even went on other message boards trashing SitcomsOnline.com and she "promises" she will get SitcomsOnline.com closed down.

If that's how she wants to act, she is gone for good.

Reminds me of someone I knew in high school that had (has) ADHD. She would act really vulgar and then she'd pass off her actions as a symptom of ADHD. Bull****.

Originally posted by pavanbadal
Yes, EricIdleFan does have learning disability, but she has also been suspended. I asked her nicely to back off on what she was doing on the boards, and she goes crazy on me. She has a learning disability, but she uses that as an excuse to get away with things that she knows is not the right thing.

In the emails she sent me, she was very vulgar and rude. Calling myself, TJ and others very vulgar names. I took away her Chit Chat priveledges, and she got even more mad at me, so now Todd has suspended her. She even went on other message boards trashing SitcomsOnline.com and she "promises" she will get SitcomsOnline.com closed down.

If that's how she wants to act, she is gone for good.

Geez....:eek2: I mean, I feel bad for anyone who has a condition, but they definately shouldn't use it as an excuse to act up.

Originally posted by Czas na Zywiec
It's not really that, the number of people who actually post on a day to day basis hasn't changed that dramatially (For every new person, an old member left.) People just seemed more mature back then. The only problem we had was the Nancy Cult. They're not a concern anymore though because they all either left or realized Nancy wasn't God. :lol: Oh god....That was nuts...:rotflmao: And to think that I was a part of that. Now I'm ashamed.



Originally posted by TJ
I won't mention who it was, but that thread was started by a moderator here who did it as a joke. Those were the days...

WHAT?! And I always thought you were a nice guy...

Originally posted by Jenya
She also has been booted off several messageboards for constantly swearing and putting down other posters. It's definately a bad habit of hers, when things don't go her way.


Really?? I'm shocked. I thought she was nice to everybody.

Originally posted by *A TV People*
I keep that in mind, because I'm a lot like that myself. I think anyone with any kind of problems should be laid off of, but not everyone knows about those problems, and no...it isn't fair.

And any kind of problems are also not an excuse for people to kiss that person's ass, I know I certainly won't to anyone. Sure, I'll keep it in mind and not be so hard on someone like that, but they don't deserve extra priveledges...that goes for anyone.

Don't mean to disagree with ya here, Ashlee, but I feel I must. :D

Everybody's got problems, if you think about it. If the whole "lay off everyone with a problem" philosophy starts to come into effect, no one would ever get reprimanded for their behavior. ohno: I get mad and upset and depressed sometimes, but that's no reason for me to lash out at anybody on here. C'mon now.

Anyway, I had absolutely no idea EricIdlefan has a disability. I tried to stay away from her threads, because most of them got nasty, but I must apologize for any mean comments made toward her. :(

I for one am glad that Safety Pin/Sarah is gone because I really didn't like her smart ass attitude. What a creepy kid! I am speaking here as a mature adult and she was getting on my nerves! I am so thankful that my own kids were not that like that! (with me anyway!):D That girl is heading for some major problems in life! Hope she gets over it!:nod:

Now let me get this straight TJ, you want us to be courteous, ignore any posts that annoy us, and behave in a civilized manner towards our fellow members?

It's just crazy enough to work.

;)

And another thing:

You people who were mean to EIF are trying to say that you shouldn't be in trouble because you didn't know she was disabled? :eek: That's the saddest excuse I've ever heard! Do you mean to tell me that it's okay to ream people just so long as they don't have medical problems? ohno:

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
And another thing:

You people who were mean to EIF are trying to say that you shouldn't be in trouble because you didn't know she was disabled? :eek: That's the saddest excuse I've ever heard! Do you mean to tell me that it's okay to ream people just so long as they don't have medical problems? ohno:

No, I'm not saying that, at all. No one should be bullied, however it is worse (at least in my opinion), if the person has a problem like EIF has. But you're right, no one should be bullied.

Originally posted by TJL
Now let me get this straight TJ, you want us to be courteous, ignore any posts that annoy us, and behave in a civilized manner towards our fellow members?

It's just crazy enough to work.

;)


:lol:

Originally posted by ElvisDustyfan
No, I'm not saying that, at all. No one should be bullied, however it is worse (at least in my opinion), if the person has a problem like EIF has. But you're right, no one should be bullied.

You know I wasn't directing that toward you...c'mon now. :bighug: It's those other creeps. :cuss:

:joke:

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
You know I wasn't directing that toward you...c'mon now. :bighug: It's those other creeps. :cuss:

:joke:

Oh, I know, I was just giving my opinion. :p :bighug:

Originally posted by ElvisDustyfan
Oh, I know, I was just giving my opinion. :p :bighug:

...and it was one awesome opinion, too. :clap:

Two questions:

Is Sarah banned or just suspended?

...and...

Is anybody else suspended?

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
And another thing:

You people who were mean to EIF are trying to say that you shouldn't be in trouble because you didn't know she was disabled? :eek: That's the saddest excuse I've ever heard! Do you mean to tell me that it's okay to ream people just so long as they don't have medical problems? ohno:

Even so, medical problems or not, it is still not OK for them to insult other people, like EIF was doing. She's wished death on me before, as seen by this post:

Originally posted by EricIdlefan
To be honest, I would love to have a helicopter drop on three teen-age "women" who have bad attitude problems and need an attitude adjustment or let a helicopter fall on the three and decapatate them!!

I understand now that she is disabled...I apologize for anything I said before...but wow, that was extreme. Not excuseable, not even for her.

Originally posted by Miss Vicki
Even so, medical problems or not, it is still not OK for them to insult other people, like EIF was doing. She's wished death on me before, as seen by this post:



I understand now that she is disabled...I apologize for anything I said before...but wow, that was extreme. Not excuseable, not even for her.

That's definitely extreme, and I'm not saying that's okay. All I was saying is that some people are saying that they should get away with all that mean behavior just because they didn't know about EIF's condition. That's ridiculous. ohno: Whatever you did in response to that particular post was probably fine, though. :D

Originally posted by david&maddie4ever
Two questions:

Is Sarah banned or just suspended?

...and...

Is anybody else suspended? From what I hear, both Shelby AND Sarah are suspended.

Originally posted by Sourbabie
What about Sarah? She lost her mother a few years ago and suffers from depression, yet a lot of people won't cut her some slack.

I was thinking about that earlier. Depression is considered a mental condition as well. Just people who aren't depressed or have never suffered through it think it's no big deal. That totally pisses me off.

Originally posted by pavanbadal
Yes, EricIdleFan does have learning disability, but she has also been suspended. I asked her nicely to back off on what she was doing on the boards, and she goes crazy on me. She has a learning disability, but she uses that as an excuse to get away with things that she knows is not the right thing.

In the emails she sent me, she was very vulgar and rude. Calling myself, TJ and others very vulgar names. I took away her Chit Chat priveledges, and she got even more mad at me, so now Todd has suspended her. She even went on other message boards trashing SitcomsOnline.com and she "promises" she will get SitcomsOnline.com closed down.

If that's how she wants to act, she is gone for good.

Hmmm....I wonder if she said anything on gsn.....*runs to see!*

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I was thinking about that earlier. Depression is considered a mental condition as well. Just people who aren't depressed or have never suffered through it think it's no big deal. That totally pisses me off.

I just think that if Sarah can't be mature and hold her tongue, she shouldn't even be here.

Alright...you can jump all over me now. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by dawsongirl
I was thinking about that earlier. Depression is considered a mental condition as well. Just people who aren't depressed or have never suffered through it think it's no big deal. That totally pisses me off.

I suffer from depression too but I don't attack people unless I'm attacked first. Besides they have medication for that she can take a Lexapro or whatever and chill out.

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Hmmm....I wonder if she said anything on gsn.....*runs to see!*


what is gsn?

Originally posted by Jenya
She also has been booted off several messageboards for constantly swearing and putting down other posters. It's definately a bad habit of hers, when things don't go her way.

She must have gotten kicked off gsn too.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
what is gsn?

Game Show Network's message boards. They're the more disfunctional twin of SO. EIF used to be a poster there too.

Originally posted by MandieR1980
I suffer from depression too but I don't attack people unless I'm attacked first. Besides they have medication for that she can take a Lexapro or whatever and chill out.

She's on Paxil.

She got lost in the shuffle when GSN required re-verification of all users in January.

As for Depression, yes, in some cases, it DOES make people snap with little or no provocation (There when I hit a funk a little while back, I snapped often, and I snapped hard...twice on the boards even)

Originally posted by dawsongirl
She's on Paxil.



What is Paxil?-LOL

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
What is Paxil?-LOL


It's a medication.

Originally posted by Brian
It's a medication.

Oh OK, i thought it was another message board EIF was on-LOL That's why i was like what the hell is PAXIL

I think all of you can stop rehashing and bashing EricIdlefan now.

Did you miss the point of this thread?

Go back and re-read what TJ said.

You are totally missing the meaning and doing exactly what he is asking you not to do.

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Oh OK, i thought it was another message board EIF was on-LOL That's why i was like what the hell is PAXIL

It's anxiety/depression medication, to be specific. The little pink pill...white in generic. :D

Originally posted by Seth Thrasher
She got lost in the shuffle when GSN required re-verification of all users in January.

As for Depression, yes, in some cases, it DOES make people snap with little or no provocation (There when I hit a funk a little while back, I snapped often, and I snapped hard...twice on the boards even)

Oh yeah...I remember that. What a pain in the ass.

Originally posted by dlemond
I think you can stop rehashing and bashing EricIdlefan now.

Did you miss the point of this thread?

Go back and re-read what TJ said.

You are totally missing the meaning and doing exactly what he is asking you not to do.



Who me??

Originally posted by dawsongirl
Game Show Network's message boards. They're the more disfunctional twin of SO. EIF used to be a poster there too.

She's also has a News You Can Use thread over on that message board too. That's funny. :lol:

Originally posted by Jenya
She's also has a News You Can Use thread over on that message board too. That's funny. :lol:

:nod: I remember that!

Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
Who me??

No, not you.

It was a general "you" for those who keep bringing up past incidents when TJ was basically asking for cooperation.

The matter is done and everyone should just leave it alone- because that is what TJ would like.

Damn.

This thread is over - when EricIdleFan and safety pin are ready to e-mail me to discuss this privately we will go from there. My point in the initial announcement has been made.