View Full Version : How Are Dish Network Negotiations Going?


MichaelLutton
03-09-2004, 12:02 AM
Hello Please tell me how Dish Network talks are going with

viacom i am so scared right now.not even funny.was spike tv

included. i saw it on spike tv while watching Raw.please tell me.

Brent88
03-09-2004, 12:19 AM
Not too good apparently. It doesn't seem either one wants to budge.

MichaelLutton
03-09-2004, 12:41 AM
what about spike tv.was that Included please tell me

And upn And what about Tv Land

MichaelLutton
03-09-2004, 05:02 AM
well Nick at Nite Cbs.

Mtv2 Bet thank god.Mtv Vhi comedy central.they are gone,


but i still get my spike tv.and Upn thank goodness, wwe lives on.

i no longer have to see Nick at Nite.i figured it would happen,by the amont of crap they was showing.but

TV Land n Nick at Nite are all gone, oh well. u think they will add new channells on to replace them

Brent88
03-09-2004, 10:38 AM
Apparently Spike TV isn't one of the channels leaving, some Dish subscribers here where I live still have it. Only CBS stations owned by Viacom are off-the-air too.

AcidBurnz1107
03-09-2004, 11:26 AM
Hi I dont have Dish Network. Is this going to happen to ppl with Ditgotal cable 2? jw And has any1 lost channels yet? A person im trading with was supposed to be taping some shows 4 me and says she has lost her channels already! Shouldnt the networks give us a haeds up or something:wave:

vashti1999
03-09-2004, 11:48 AM
It's not happening with digital cable, that's why they've specified on screen messages to DISH network subscribers. In fact, I just heard a radio commercial promoting my local digital cable system because we don't have to be concerned with losing channels like with DISH.

Brian Damage
03-09-2004, 11:58 AM
Spike TV is a Viacom owned station and should be included in this whole dish network arrangement.

Brent88
03-09-2004, 01:18 PM
Dish subscribers will get a $1 a month credit! LOL!

No MTV, CBS on DISH

EchoStar service pulls local stations, Nickelodeon in continuing dispute about rates.
March 9, 2004: 6:35 AM EST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - EchoStar Communications Corp. pulled from service Tuesday 16 of Viacom's local CBS stations and 10 of its national channels after the companies failed to agree on contract terms and prices.

Viacom (VIA.B: Research, Estimates) said in a statement it was "dismayed and disappointed" by the action, which affected channels such as MTV and Nickelodeon, after a deadline expired early Tuesday.

Satellite company EchoStar (DISH: Research, Estimates) said it would like to transmit CBS programming on its DISH network again, but both parties stood their ground in the dispute.

The move, which analysts say affects 1.6 million EchoStar viewers in major cities such as New York and Los Angeles, follows a lawsuit from EchoStar in January after a four-month deadlock over rates and conditions.

EchoStar said Viacom was illegally forcing its DISH Network to carry cable networks it does not want in order for it to retain the right to transmit CBS.

"DISH Network would always have a place for CBS, and we're willing to pay for retransmission rights," said EchoStar Chief Executive Charles Ergen, but he said Viacom was "holding the public airways hostage."

EchoStar said Viacom had also asked for rate increases of up to 40 percent over the length of its contract with the company.

Viacom urged EchoStar customers to switch to another distributor, and said the satellite company should be able to cope with a rate rise since it had already raised its own fees to end-users.

"They recently hiked their subscribers' bills by as much as $3 a month. Yet they are unwilling to consider paying an additional six cents a month per subscriber for the right to carry our channels," Viacom said in a statement.

EchoStar said it would provide a $1 monthly credit to customers who lose programming while the channels are unavailable.

barwars
03-09-2004, 07:42 PM
DISH Network will crash.




ALWAYS go with cable.
And if you can.... go for digital.

Brian Damage
03-09-2004, 08:58 PM
Dish Network is apparently on the verge of dropping Viacom owned channels, including UPN and Spike TV, from their lineup as part of a dispute over programming fees.
A scroll ran on screen during RAW last night asking Dish customers to call Dish to complain about the decision.

Markets impacted by the decision, which may have already been implemented, include: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Boston, Dallas-Fort Worth, Detroit, Minneapolis, Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, Denver, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Salt Lake City, Green Bay, Wis., and Austin, Texas.

Brent88
03-09-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Brian Damage
Dish Network is apparently on the verge of dropping Viacom owned channels, including UPN and Spike TV, from their lineup as part of a dispute over programming fees.
A scroll ran on screen during RAW last night asking Dish customers to call Dish to complain about the decision.

Markets impacted by the decision, which may have already been implemented, include: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Boston, Dallas-Fort Worth, Detroit, Minneapolis, Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, Denver, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Salt Lake City, Green Bay, Wis., and Austin, Texas.

OMG... the three largest markets in this country, New York, L.A., and Chicago.

I can see Dish Network's subscriber number dropping faster than a rock.

musicradio77
03-09-2004, 09:42 PM
I don't have Dish Network, but I have Time Warner Cable.

BLT
03-10-2004, 12:03 AM
I have Dish, why isn't TV Land gone with the rest of the Viacom stations?

dawsongirl
03-10-2004, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by MichaelLutton
u think they will add new channells on to replace them

I wish!

dawsongirl
03-10-2004, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by BLT
I have Dish, why isn't TV Land gone with the rest of the Viacom stations?

Shhhhhh! Maybe they forgot.

catnap72
03-10-2004, 10:26 AM
Since apparently nobody gave you an update, TV Land, Spike, and CMT are NOT included (directly) in the dispute and will NOT be pulled off (despite Viacom's repeated on-air claims...ie lies, to the contrary). Viacom wants an exhorbitant rate increase for their package (more than the 6 cents they repeatedly quote), to have CBS O&O carriage tied in directly with carriage of ALL Viacom cable networks at a higher rate, and to also tear up the recently agreed upon contract for the three networks (which haven't been removed) to ink a new contract at a much higher price, as well as a number of other stipulations.

In other words, they want you to take more junk that you may not want and pay through the nose for it.

Brent88
03-10-2004, 02:26 PM
From Dish's website:

DISH Network sincerely regrets that all MTV, BET, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon and VH1 programming is currently unavailable. Viacom owned CBS stations are also unavailable at this time.

These channels and CBS stations, owned by Viacom, have proposed excessive rate increases which we feel are unreasonable. Viacom is demanding rate increases nearly 4 times the rate of inflation for various cable channels, amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars in fees that would increase the cost of our services to you.

Click Here for answers to Frequently Asked Questions.

DISH Network continually strives to control costs on behalf of our customers and we are working hard to get this matter resolved quickly. Tell us what you think by writing us at:
CEOofDishNetwork@Dishnetwork.com.


For MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon and other cable networks
Call 212-258-8000.
For Viacom Corporate
Call 212-258-6000.

For CBS Corporate
Call 212-975-4321 or email them at audsvcs@cbs.com
Tell CBS and Viacom to give your channels back to you. Click here to send an email today.

For your local CBS Station
Call the local CBS general manager at your station listed below:

City Affiliate Call
Letters Name Title Phone
Austin CBS KEYE Gary Schneider General Manager 512-835-0042
Baltimore CBS WJZ Jay Newman VP/General Manager 410-466-0013
Boston CBS WBZ Ed Goldman VP/General Manager 617-787-7000
Chicago CBS WBBM Joe Ahern President/GM 312-944-6000
Dallas-Ft. Worth CBS KTVT Steve Mauldin President/GM 214-750-1111
Denver CBS KCNC Walt Dehaven General Manager 303-861-4444
Detroit CBS WWJ Linda Danna VP/General Manager 248-350-5050
Greenbay-Appleton CBS WFRV Perry Kidder Station Manager 920-437-5411
Los Angeles CBS KCBS Don Corsini President/General Manager 323-460-3000
Miami CBS WFOR Michael A. Colleran VP/General Manager 305-591-4444
Minneapolis CBS WCCO Ed Piette VP/General Manager 612-339-4444
New York CBS WCBS Lew Leone President/General Manager 212-975-4321
Philadelphia CBS KYW Peter Dunn VP/General Manager 215-238-4700
Pittsburgh CBS KDKA Gary Cozen VP/General Manager 412-575-2200
Salt Lake City CBS KUTV Dave Phillips General Manager 801-973-3000
San Francisco CBS KPIX Ron Longinotti VP/General Manager 415-362-5550

Brent88
03-10-2004, 06:00 PM
Near deal between CBS and Echostar:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040310/ap_en_tv/echostar_viacom&e=3