Unseen Characters

[frani]

Not sure if there's been a thread about this but anyway.


Anglela Valentine
Larry's Sister
Larry's Brother


What others are there?

[DarleneIllyria]

Larry's father- Maybe they showed him an episode, but I don't think they did. He was always out of town.

[Kitt]

Larry's father. His mother is always saying things like, "Why can't you do these things when your father is not out of town?"

Ward's dad is not exactly an unseen chacter, because he's dead. But he gets mentioned a lot so he plays a part in a way.

[Kitt]

Originally posted by Jenny
Larry's father- Maybe they showed him an episode, but I don't think they did. He was always out of town. OOPS Jenny, lol. You and I were typing that in at exactly the same time!:wave:

[frani]

That's interesting, Kitt, about Ward's father cause I was thinking of him. Do they ever actually say Ward's father is dead?

[Frnk55]

I believe Larry's father was in the ep when Beaver had to play the canary. I could be wrong though.

[Kitt]

Originally posted by frani
That's interesting, Kitt, about Ward's father cause I was thinking of him. Do they ever actually say Ward's father is dead? I don't think so but it is implied in the way family speaks about him. I don't recall them ever planning any visits with him. I'd always assumed that he wasn't living.

[bandito]

Originally posted by Frnk55
I believe Larry's father was in the ep when Beaver had to play the canary. I could be wrong though. I think you're right, I remember seeing a breif shot of him after the play was over.
How about Eddies sister. I seem to remember in one ep where Eddie tells Wally about his dad putting some of his sisters hair permenant on him.

[tdr]

Angela Valentine (what was it with her, so often talked about but not shown?).
Larry's sister-- described as 18, 'homely,' wears a lot of cosmetics.
Larry's father-- seen once, and that only a silent profile.
Larry's older brother-- married, with at least one child.
Whitey's older brother-- married, with at least one child (Whitey says he is a "2-time uncle," but we don't know if same brother is the father of both children.
Margaret Rickover-- Richard's older sister; Wally says she "gives [him] the willies."
Gilbert's older sister (unnamed)-- Beaver says she appears "real nice at Sunday School," but Gilbert says "she just does that to fool people."
Miss Landers' brother-- said to be an airplane pilot, but it's unknown if that means professionally.

Finally, all of Ward and June's parents-- it's strongly implied they no longer have regular contact with them, and it's somewhat implied that none of them are even living, because there is no apparent estrangement from them, even though they are somtimes described as having been overly harsh.

[frani]

What about June's sister Peggy and the baby Peggy had that June had to leave Ward and the boys alone for and Beav had to end up wearing short pants. Whew.

[Kitt]

Finally, all of Ward and June's parents-- it's [i]strongly implied they no longer have regular contact with them, and it's somewhat implied that none of them are even living, because there is no apparent estrangement from them, even though they are somtimes described as having been overly harsh. [/B]I think Aunt Martha is supposed to have raised June which would indicate that both of June's parents died when she was young. Maybe I have that wrong but I don't think so. Anyone have info about that. I don't recall June ever talking about her parents but she talks about Aunt Martha quite a lot.

[tdr]

I know there is an ep (can't remember which) where June makes reference to how she invited Ward to her home and he "practically ordered my mother out of the kitchen to do the dishes himself." That certainly suggests they were 'dating' by that time.

When I wrote the story of how Ward and June met and married, I covered the part about Aunt Martha having 'raised' June by having June's parents being missionaries who were often out of the country, while June either was in 'boarding school' in East St. Louis, or staying with Aunt Martha at her home in Riverside.

Re: June's sister, "Peggy," someone mentioned. That seemed to be a one-time situation in order to introduce Aunt Martha into the plot, and I am quite certain she (Peggy) is never mentioned again.

[M.Teevee]

Larry's pop is always in Cincinatti. :lol:

[Tweety]

Originally posted by Frnk55
I believe Larry's father was in the ep when Beaver had to play the canary. I could be wrong though.


You're exactly right Frnk55 (and tdr is correct as well)...

Larry's father WAS seen in the episode in which Beaver plays the canary...Larry is seen talking to his father back stage, but his father doesn't say anything on camera...

[PracTz]

I always thought it was odd that Mrs. Fred Rutherford was never seen! We saw her husband giving Ward a hard time, her son Clarence giving the boys a tough time- and even occasionally her daughter Violet messing with Beav's cranium and she was frequently talked about but I can't ever recall seeing her!

[DarleneIllyria]

Originally posted by PracTz
I always thought it was odd that Mrs. Fred Rutherford was never seen! We saw her husband giving Ward a hard time, her son Clarence giving the boys a tough time- and even occasionally her daughter Violet messing with Beav's cranium and she was frequently talked about but I can't ever recall seeing her!

Wait, I think I remember seeing her. It's been awhile since I've watched this ep, but you remember the time when Lumpy was kind of cruel acting towards Beav and Wally? Beav and Wally decide to put those tire thingies out so Lumpy could fall. B & W are outside the house and start yelling 'Meathead', so Lumpy would come out and Mrs. F R (Wasn't her name Gwendolyn?) said something like 'They must want you, Fred'. I think I remember seeing her in a picnic ep, too. Not 100% sure about my post, but maybe someone here can prove me wrong or agree with me.

[Kitt]

I'm not sure about that one Jenny but I have a similar memory. The episode when Lumpy put a smoke bomb in Wally car and also Edie's car. Wally and eddie went to get him back at his house by tying a chaiin to his axle. But after his axle totally cut loose from his car when he unsespectingly tried to drive of, I think his mom came out before his dad did to see what was going on.

[frani]

Actually, Geraldine/Gwen Rutherford is seen in the ep where eddie and wally park the cars at the langley wedding and fred's car is towed. i could be wrong, but i think we do actually see her then.

[bandito]

She was also in the ep where Violet kissed Beaver at that picinic they went on.

[PracTz]

Gee, I'd forgotten all those times! Thanks everyone for refreshing my memory! Oh, well, at least I've still got enough brain cells not to attempt to climb into a poster of a soup bowl! LOL

[UncleBilly]

Mrs. Fred Rutherford is seen in the episode where the Rutherfords come over to play cards at the Cleavers and Fred forgot to bring the pictures from their trip much to everyones' relief. (Thats also the ep. where the Cleaver boys put barrel hoops in Fred's driveway hoping to catch Lumpy but getting Fred by mistake) Her name was sometimes Gwendolyn and sometimes Geraldine depending on the episode. I think she has been seen in other episodes too but I'm not sure which ones.

[UncleBilly]

Oops! I didn't realize someone had already mentioned that episode.

[Mrs. Ducky]

Originally posted by bandito
She was also in the ep where Violet kissed Beaver at that picinic they went on.



That ep. didn't make sense to me, Lumpy was'n't at that picnic. :confused:

[BeavLover]

One Cleaver relative that wasn't mentioned was Wally's Uncle Tom from Florida that gave Wally a pen and pencil set for his birthday. It wasn't clarified if he was Ward or June's brother.

[BeavLover]

[B]That ep. didn't make sense to me, Lumpy was'n't at that picnic. :confused:


"The Lump" during that part of the LITB series wasn't really a good friend yet of Wally's. Remember, he was suppose to be a couple of years older than Wally, so he probably whined to his parents about having to go on a "crummy picnic."

I do agree though, they should of mentioned him in that episode as to why he wasn't there. Oh yeah, remember how Fred spent hours figuring out how everyone would be seated in the car???? He probably figured Clarence would screw the order up, and told him he had to stay home. Just Kidding!

If Lumpy would of gone, I guess June would of had to sit on Ward's lap. Wally on Ward's??? Lumpy on his mother's??? :lol:

Naaaa, just tie 'em to the bumper and drag 'em.