Nightstalker Question

[sdb4884]

Did Alejandro Espinoza ever get the reward money for helping the police capture the nightstalker Ramirez? did he actually die like it was alluded to in the UM broadcast?

[bell83]

Did Alejandro Espinoza ever get the reward money for helping the police capture the nightstalker Ramirez? did he actually die like it was alluded to in the UM broadcast?

I don't remember where, but I vaguely remember hearing that they did find him, and I think he got the reward money, but don't quote me on that...I may be wrong. :)

[Big3sCompanyFan]

Did Alejandro Espinoza ever get the reward money for helping the police capture the nightstalker Ramirez? did he actually die like it was alluded to in the UM broadcast?

Did WHO die?? And how did they suggest he died?

[sdb4884]

Did Richard Ramirez get the death penalty?

[Drakken]

Did Richard Ramirez get the death penalty?

Hell yeah. Plenty of times.

He is still on death row, though, and still married to her serial killer groupie. He will probably sit there for a long, long while as California is notoriously very slow in applying the death penalty.

[sdb4884]

Hell yeah. Plenty of times.

He is still on death row, though, and still married to her serial killer groupie. He will probably sit there for a long, long while as California is notoriously very slow in applying the death penalty.

Thanks Drakken, interesting that this case was more about finding the tip off person than the Nightstalker. Anyone else know if Espinoza was found?

[Drakken]

Thanks Drakken, interesting that this case was more about finding the tip off person than the Nightstalker. Anyone else know if Espinoza was found?

From what I searched, it remains still unsolved.

Since Robert Stack mentions that he might have been dead, chances are that his family received the money instead.

[sdb4884]

Just watched a show about the night stalker on serial killer Sunday on CI, no mention of Espinoza tipping off the police or anything, guess his testimony wasn't really public knowledge.

[Big3sCompanyFan]

Just watched a show about the night stalker on serial killer Sunday on CI, no mention of Espinoza tipping off the police or anything, guess his testimony wasn't really public knowledge.

So is the Espinoza story just a myth?? It never really happened?

The Nightstalker should've gotten the death penalty many times over by now! Since he's in California he'll probably never be executed or not until he's very old.

With Jerry Brown as governor will there be any executions there at all??

[crystaldawn]

The last paragraph of this story states he was given a share of the reward so they must have found him.

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-25/local/me-694_1_mission-viejo

[justins5256]

The last paragraph of this story states he was given a share of the reward so they must have found him.

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-25/local/me-694_1_mission-viejo

Good find.

One thing I find odd though. The article is from October 25, 1989. Espinoza's story first aired on UM in February 1990.

I wonder if the article is incorrect about them issuing the reward to Espinoza. Or, perhaps the story had already been filmed and edited, so they showed it anyway - if that were the case, you would think they would do an update or at least pull the story from syndication. I remember seeing it on Lifetime many times without any sort of update. Weird.

[crystaldawn]

Good find.

One thing I find odd though. The article is from October 25, 1989. Espinoza's story first aired on UM in February 1990.

I wonder if the article is incorrect about them issuing the reward to Espinoza. Or, perhaps the story had already been filmed and edited, so they showed it anyway - if that were the case, you would think they would do an update or at least pull the story from syndication. I remember seeing it on Lifetime many times without any sort of update. Weird.

Lol, that is strange! Maybe the person from that article was incorrect and he wasn't awarded the money. Thats going to be a tough one to find out I'm afraid.

[sdb4884]

The last paragraph of this story states he was given a share of the reward so they must have found him.

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-25/local/me-694_1_mission-viejo

Well done on finding that article, still as Stack would have said it raises more questions than answers.

[Victoria81]

Well done on finding that article, still as Stack would have said it raises more questions than answers.


It still says unsolved on the segment :/ I would assume the guy was scared to come forward! I would be.

[justins5256]

It still says unsolved on the segment :/ I would assume the guy was scared to come forward! I would be.

Well, I could understand him possibly being nervous at first, but after Ramirez was arrested and eventually convicted, he would have little to fear.

IIRC, Stack mentioned that the police thought it possible that Espinoza might be deceased. My gut feeling is that they are correct - why else publicize that tidbit? That being said, his family (if they are still alive) may be unaware that Espinoza provided this information to the police and therefore unaware of the existence of the reward that they could rightfully claim. The fact that Espinoza knew a guy like Ramirez and snitched on him might not be information he shared with a lot of people or anyone.

[xxxxmattxxxx69]

From what I have read not only is Alejandro Espinoza missing but his family can't be located. I think he's dead honestly

[Victoria81]

From what I have read not only is Alejandro Espinoza missing but his family can't be located. I think he's dead honestly

The segment that yesterday said that he may have had a wife and child and nothing else. I wonder why Stack's verion is so different? Seems like this one would have mention him dead. Weird.

[xxxxmattxxxx69]

The segment that yesterday said that he may have had a wife and child and nothing else. I wonder why Stack's verion is so different? Seems like this one would have mention him dead. Weird.

Honestly Farina just re-airs the same footage from the Stack days. If there was an update before Stack died he'll pretty much air the same details unless it is solved after RS died. I honestly enjoy watching the Farina episodes where the interviewee is now deceased and was long before RS died(Jeremy Rolfs from the "Tom Johnson" case. He appeared in silhouette and only released his first name for the story.)

[Orgazmo]

While the article (http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-25/local/me-694_1_mission-viejo) is a great find, to be honest, it merely sounds like it's stating what reward is owed to Alejandro not that he has actually collected it.

[crystaldawn]

While the article (http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-25/local/me-694_1_mission-viejo) is a great find, to be honest, it merely sounds like it's stating what reward is owed to Alejandro not that he has actually collected it.

Yes I have a feeling he was never found or if he was he didn't want it publicized. The Farina UM has been pretty good about updating cases and this was on last week and he didn't say anything about him being found.

[sdb4884]

This case was recently shown again on the new Unsolved Mysteries and it is still open, no mention this time about Alejandro Espinoza possibly been dead.