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Mastermind
12-18-2009, 06:14 PM
Tried to find a thread on this..but couldn't so I figured I'd start this one.

I'm surprised this case does not get discussed more on this board..

This is the case of the Middle Eastern man who was being harassed by threatenening phone calls.

I assume there has been no update on this case other than the fact that Bashire is still alive and successful.

I do have some thoughts on this case after watching it.

1. The L'enfant messages were definitely done via splicing and recording techniques. Someone most likely got the kid voice from a movie or a television show. (in fact the voice almost sounds like Gary Coleman's!!!...no I'm serious!! I'm wondering if the splice came from an episode of Different Strokes---NBC aired they show, so maybe they used that for the re-enactment!!:D )

2. I find it hard to believe that they drove to all the locations to make the calls. It sounds more like they used a "scrambler" phone of some sort.

Such techniques sound more like the work of some nations secret service agency. Perhaps some of these people were working in one of the embassies.

bell83
12-18-2009, 11:29 PM
Tried to find a thread on this..but couldn't so I figured I'd start this one.

I'm surprised this case does not get discussed more on this board..

This is the case of the Middle Eastern man who was being harassed by threatenening phone calls.

I assume there has been no update on this case other than the fact that Bashire is still alive and successful.

I do have some thoughts on this case after watching it.

1. The L'enfant messages were definitely done via splicing and recording techniques. Someone most likely got the kid voice from a movie or a television show. (in fact the voice almost sounds like Gary Coleman's!!!...no I'm serious!! I'm wondering if the splice came from an episode of Different Strokes---NBC aired they show, so maybe they used that for the re-enactment!!:D )

2. I find it hard to believe that they drove to all the locations to make the calls. It sounds more like they used a "scrambler" phone of some sort.

Such techniques sound more like the work of some nations secret service agency. Perhaps some of these people were working in one of the embassies.


That case always bugged me, too. My question is did the scrambler-type phone exist at that time? It could be, also, that whomever was behind it simply had contacts in all of those cities and had those people make the calls. Since they were recordings, he could've simply sent them to his contacts.

Just my thoughts :)

WishfulDreamer
12-19-2009, 05:23 PM
You said he's successful today, so I hope that means he's out of the hospital and not being harrassed anymore. Hopefully with today's technology the calls could be tracked easier should the harrassers try it again.

Mastermind
12-19-2009, 09:55 PM
You said he's successful today, so I hope that means he's out of the hospital and not being harrassed anymore

From what I've heard

He still runs a chain of sucessful restaurants and there have been no further harassments.


Unless someone knows to the contrary??

Hopefully with today's technology the calls could be tracked easier should the harrassers try it again.

1.Technology works both ways. With disposable cell phones, stolen cell phones, cloning, internet telephoning, phone cards..etc...It actually even easier now for tormentors!!!!

They could make all the calls from a van using 6 stolen cell phones from some some guys in London!!!

2. Considering that Al Quaida has come to prominence..his tormentors have their resources as well to lean on.

Oldschooler81
12-20-2009, 08:14 AM
You know what, even though I have part of the segment on tape (I stupidly recorded something earlier back on the tape some time later, and it cuts in) and memorized alot of it, I never thought of the kids' voice being a recording, but that makes perfect sense! It did seem weird to me that a 10 year old would have such a vengeance against two men he didn't even know (Bashir as well as his replacement at the restaurant). For that matter, why would they target the new guy's innocent son and beat him for no reason at all, without kidnapping him? That actually was the scariest thing to me in the whole segment.

No question it was a complicated case and I wonder what started it all, but Stack's wrap up at the end sounds plausible to me - that he crossed paths with the wrong person when he was married to his first wife.

BTW, where did anyone hear Bashir was still successful? I'm glad for him the harrassment finally stopped, I guess he eventually got out of the hospital some time after the segment aired.

P.S. On a lighter note, it DID sound like Gary Coleman's voice now that I think about it. ;) "What chu talkin' bout, Bashir?"

smoothvirus
12-20-2009, 11:51 AM
I remember this one as well. I looked him up a couple of years ago and as far as I know he is running a successful restaurant and living in the DC area.

http://www.marrakesh.us/

I think that's the place.

burbqueen
12-21-2009, 04:56 PM
isnt this the case where the guy was in the hospital and l'enfant called and he told the nurse and she was like, "oh that's that L'Enfant again", then hung up the phone??? I just remember it being hilarious.

Oldschooler81
12-23-2009, 01:06 AM
isnt this the case where the guy was in the hospital and l'enfant called and he told the nurse and she was like, "oh that's that L'Enfant again", then hung up the phone??? I just remember it being hilarious.

Yeah, even though it was the reenactment (and probably not the way they actually said it, at least I hope not) I was also going WTF, why would you tell him THAT?

UMfan77
12-23-2009, 10:11 AM
I remember this one as well. I looked him up a couple of years ago and as far as I know he is running a successful restaurant and living in the DC area.

http://www.marrakesh.us/

I think that's the place.

I visited the website, but is Bashire currently running it or is that other guy (forgot his name from the segment) still running it? If Bashire is still in the mental hospital, afraid for his life, I can't imagine him running a restaurant.

Oldschooler81
12-23-2009, 10:59 AM
^ Yeah, even if he got out of the hospital some years later (which I hope he has) I'd think he'd basically live a low key private life and not chance it. Plus I'm sure living through something like that would normally make him a bit more uneasy about people or going back to what he did before.

I agree I felt bad for the guy who replaced him (Raj I think), especially with his son getting beaten just to "send a message".