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catlover79
10-15-2009, 08:46 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff

By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer Mary Foster, Associated Press Writer – 48 mins ago

NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."

Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.

Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.

"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.

Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.

Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.

Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.

"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."

Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.

"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."

"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. She said the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 "that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."

The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."

"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.

According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.

Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.

The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.

"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."

(This version corrects the date of the Supreme Court ruling.)

Retro4Life
10-15-2009, 10:55 PM
With all the real problems facing the world today, why are so many of us still obsessed with race? It's so disheartening to realize that we haven't gotten over this stuff, that in fact, we might never get over it.

People of Earth...move ON, already!:mad:

catlover79
10-15-2009, 11:19 PM
I completely agree. My dad and some other members of my family are against interracial relationships, but I'm not. As long as the couple loves each other and are both at the age of consent, who cares? :confused:

Retro4Life
10-15-2009, 11:29 PM
I agree.

It'd be different if the success rate of same race couples were anything to crow about, but the last time I looked...it ain't.

I think interracial couples will face unique challenges, but so does everyone else; couples with different economic, religious and social backgrounds. If you start deciding who can and can't pair up based on the fact that they will have problems, you might as well outlaw marriage.

JT
10-15-2009, 11:55 PM
Be it ever so humble, there's nooooo place like hooome...

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
10-16-2009, 02:07 AM
This crap is still going on? Really? What an idiot.

MickeyMac
10-16-2009, 11:51 AM
I can tell you as a black man that racism is alive and well in the United States. Not all the problems got solved during the civil rights era.

Doodyville10019
10-16-2009, 12:55 PM
It's really amazing to me that we still have bigots like the guy in Louisiana in this day and age. It's even harder to believe this guy is a justice of the peace.

LuLu Rogers
10-16-2009, 01:14 PM
I have to say, I live in an area where there is still a lot of racism, as much as I hate to admit, it even exists in my own family, but I myself love all people, no matter what their skin color. I think this guy in Louisiana is totally WRONG!! ohno:

Retro4Life
10-16-2009, 03:51 PM
I have to say, I live in an area where there is still a lot of racism, as much as I hate to admit, it even exists in my own family, but I myself love all people, no matter what their skin color. I think this guy in Louisiana is totally WRONG!! ohno:

There's prejudice in just about every family, I'd say, and honestly, there's probably some in every PERSON. But we can resist that old, outdated pull with the fresh air of knowledge and an open heart. In the old days, that was just the way most people thought. It was a way of forming identity by having groups of "us" and "them" based on ultimately shallow things like skin color. I don't begrudge anyone of an older generation for being a bit hung up on race, because in those days you were seriously rocking the boat to think otherwise.

Today it's a different story. There's so much mingling of races in work, neighborhoods, schools, etc, that if by now you still think that one race is 'better' than another, that's just silly.

This guy may not hate blacks, he may just be misguided enough to think he needs to 'protect' people from what he feels is a doomed relationship. It's not his place to make that call, but in his heart he thinks he's right. And it's sad.

People are basically the same, regardless of color. We all need shelter, food, water, work, love, etc. Obviously there are some huge cultural differences in this world, but the color of your skin doesn't mean anything deeper than the color of your skin.

If someone is lucky enough to find someone they love and that loves them (many, many don't) the minor bump in the road that race presents shouldn't derail the whole journey.

catlover79
10-16-2009, 04:10 PM
While his heart may be in the right place, it's none of his business about "any future children" this couple may have. As long as the couple is of consenting age, are not blood related, and love each other, on what legal grounds does he have to not perform the ceremony? Isn't it, like, HIS JOB??? Just out of curiousity, can he be penalized for this?

MickeyMac
10-16-2009, 04:11 PM
I have to say, I live in an area where there is still a lot of racism, as much as I hate to admit, it even exists in my own family, but I myself love all people, no matter what their skin color. I think this guy in Louisiana is totally WRONG!! ohno:



Not just the south. There is racsim right here in Michigan. I wont go into details but I have seen it firsthand.

MickeyMac
10-16-2009, 04:12 PM
While his heart may be in the right place, it's none of his business about "any future children" this couple may have. As long as the couple is of consenting age, are not blood related, and love each other, on what legal grounds does he have to not perform the ceremony? Isn't it, like, HIS JOB??? Just out of curiousity, can he be penalized for this?



This judge should be fired for this. :mad:

Retro4Life
10-16-2009, 06:17 PM
This judge should be fired for this. :mad:

Yeah he's violating some kind of discrimination law, I'd imagine.

So sad that we have to even waste breath on this, after all these years. :(

OH Nuts!
10-16-2009, 10:28 PM
Yeah this justice of the peace sounds perfectly whacko, I'm surprised he hasn't suffered some kind of legal repercussions as well; he really should.

catlover79
10-17-2009, 12:42 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff

By MARY FOSTER, Associated Press Writer Mary Foster, Associated Press Writer – Fri Oct 16, 7:05 pm ET

NEW ORLEANS – Louisiana's governor and a U.S. senator joined Friday in calling for the ouster of a local official who refused to marry an interracial couple, saying his actions clearly broke the law.

Keith Bardwell, a white justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish in the southeastern part of the state, refused to issue a marriage license earlier this month to Beth Humphrey, who is white, and Terence McKay, who is black. His refusal has prompted calls for an investigation or resignation from civil and constitutional rights groups and the state's Legislative Black Caucus.

Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal said in a statement a nine-member commission that reviews lawyers and judges in the state should investigate.

"Disciplinary action should be taken immediately — including the revoking of his license," Jindal said.

Bardwell did not return calls left on his answering machine Friday.

Bardwell has said he always asks if a couple is interracial and, if they are, refers them to another justice of the peace. Bardwell said no one had complained in the past and he doesn't marry the couples because he's worried about their children's futures.

"Perhaps he's worried the kids will grow up and be president," said Bill Quigley, director of the Center for Constitutional Rights and Justice, referring to President Barack Obama, the son of a black father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas.

Obama's deputy press secretary Bill Burton echoed those sentiments.

"I've found that actually the children of biracial couples can do pretty good," Burton told reporters aboard Air Force One as it flew to Texas.

Humphrey and McKay were eventually married by another justice of the peace, but are now looking into legal action against Bardwell.

Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to ask about a marriage license. She said Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell would not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples.

Bardwell maintains he can recuse himself from marrying people. Quigley disagreed.

"A justice of the peace is legally obligated to serve the public, all of the public," Quigley said. "Racial discrimination has been a violation of Louisiana and U.S. law for decades. No public official has the right to pick and choose which laws they are going to follow."

A spokeswoman for the Louisiana Judiciary Commission said investigations were confidential and would not comment. If the commission recommends action to the Louisiana Supreme Court, the matter would become public.

U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., said in a statement Bardwell's practices and comments were deeply disturbing.

"Not only does his decision directly contradict Supreme Court rulings, it is an example of the ugly bigotry that divided our country for too long," she said.

Tangipahoa Parish President Gordon Burgess said Bardwell's views were not consistent with his or those of the local government. But as an elected official, Bardwell was not under the supervision of the parish government.

"However, I am certainly very disappointed that anyone representing the people of Tangipahoa Parish, particularly an elected official, would take such a divisive stand," Burgess said in an e-mail. "I would hope that Mr. Bardwell would consider offering his resignation if he is unable to serve all of the people of his district and our parish."

Bardwell, a Republican, has served as justice of peace for 34 years. He said he has run without opposition each time, but had decided earlier not to run again. His current term expires Dec. 31, 2014.

Courtnee
10-17-2009, 10:01 PM
As if Louisiana didn't ALREADY have a bad rap. ohno:


...our bad?