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JamesG
09-25-2009, 07:44 AM
Manson Follower Susan Atkins Dies
By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP

LOS ANGELES (Sept. 24) - Susan Atkins, a follower of cult leader Charles Manson whose remorseless witness stand confession to killing pregnant actress Sharon Tate in 1969 shocked the world, has died. She was 61 and had been suffering from brain cancer.

Atkins' death comes less than a month after a parole board turned down the terminally ill woman's last chance at freedom on Sept. 2. She was brought to the hearing on a gurney and slept through most of it.

Full article here - http://news.aol.com/article/charles-manson-follower-susan-atkins/686956

phoebe7165
09-25-2009, 11:15 AM
I really want to say something mean, but I don't think you're allowed to do that here on a condolence thread, no matter who it is.

LuLu Rogers
09-25-2009, 12:27 PM
She got what she deserved.

MickeyMac
09-25-2009, 12:28 PM
Cant say I feel sorry for her.

phoebe7165
09-25-2009, 01:20 PM
Cant say I feel sorry for her.

OK, I guess I will say something -

I hope she suffered as much as she made Sharon Tate suffer. The only bad thing about her dying is that she is out of pain.

That wasn't my 1st thought though, I thought of other things, too.

Sharop
09-25-2009, 01:40 PM
I'm not happy that she died this way, but my sympathy for her is limited. In this situation, I would feel more sympathetic towards her family, who may well be decent people. As we know, not all criminals come from bad families - there are many that have relatives who are good, kind people who are absolutely shocked and appalled at the awful things their family member has done.

So, I do have sympathy for any decent person who for whatever reason (being a blood relative, for example) may have been close to this woman. However, my sympathy for Susan Atkins herself is limited.

Tuesday Weld
09-25-2009, 01:52 PM
I'm not happy that she died this way, but my sympathy for her is limited. In this situation, I would feel more sympathetic towards her family, who may well be decent people. As we know, not all criminals come from bad families - there are many that have relatives who are good, kind people who are absolutely shocked and appalled at the awful things their family member has done.

So, I do have sympathy for any decent person who for whatever reason (being a blood relative, for example) may have been close to this woman. However, my sympathy for Susan Atkins herself is limited.

I agree with this statement.

Chocoholic
09-25-2009, 03:25 PM
I have no sympathy for her. She deserved to suffer like that. Hopefully, Manson and the others will follow suit real soon. They lost their rights to be considered human beings when they decided to commit those murders.

Hope it's hot enough for you down there, Susan!

Edit: Yes, I know it's not nice to speak ill of someone who just died. I am showing her the same level of compassion and mercy she showed to Sharon Tate.

catlover79
09-25-2009, 04:11 PM
I just hope that monster who was the mastermind for the destruction of Pan Am 103 (who supposedly is also inflicted with cancer) follows - QUICKLY!!!!

Janice
09-25-2009, 05:27 PM
She lived 40 years longer than those poor victims. Sharon's son would be a man now, probably with a family. The poor baby was was never given a chance at life. I can't believe I used to be pro-abortion. Sorry to go off topic there. Back to Susan, good riddance.

Liza
09-25-2009, 05:36 PM
I feel that this must be a sigh of relief for Sharon's family. Their goal has always been to keep this woman behind bars. I hope Debra Tate can feel some peace that she has accomplished what her mother and little sister always wanted: Susan Atkins never got out. Debra won't have to make any more emotional pleas at her parole hearings. It's over. At least this chapter is.

God bless the Tate family. They've had more grief in the past 40 years than anyone could bear.

Liza
09-25-2009, 05:37 PM
The poor baby was was never given a chance at life. I can't believe I used to be pro-abortion. Sorry to go off topic there.

Being pro-choice has nothing at all to do with the tragedy of Sharon's baby.

Janice
09-25-2009, 06:42 PM
Being pro-choice has nothing at all to do with the tragedy of Sharon's baby.
I make the connection of a baby who didn't get a chance to live, much like aborted babies don't.

browneyes106
09-25-2009, 06:49 PM
I'm not happy that she died this way, but my sympathy for her is limited. In this situation, I would feel more sympathetic towards her family, who may well be decent people. As we know, not all criminals come from bad families - there are many that have relatives who are good, kind people who are absolutely shocked and appalled at the awful things their family member has done.

So, I do have sympathy for any decent person who for whatever reason (being a blood relative, for example) may have been close to this woman. However, my sympathy for Susan Atkins herself is limited.

I agree with you.

Faith
09-25-2009, 07:05 PM
Good Riddance, couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

catlover79
09-25-2009, 07:10 PM
I feel that this must be a sigh of relief for Sharon's family. Their goal has always been to keep this woman behind bars. I hope Debra Tate can feel some peace that she has accomplished what her mother and little sister always wanted: Susan Atkins never got out. Debra won't have to make any more emotional pleas at her parole hearings. It's over. At least this chapter is.

God bless the Tate family. They've had more grief in the past 40 years than anyone could bear.
AMEN!! :clap

catlover79
09-25-2009, 07:11 PM
She lived 40 years longer than those poor victims. Sharon's son would be a man now, probably with a family. The poor baby was was never given a chance at life. I can't believe I used to be pro-abortion. Sorry to go off topic there. Back to Susan, good riddance.
Not to mention that Roman might never have gone off the deep end had Sharon and the baby lived. ohno:

Liza
09-25-2009, 09:17 PM
I make the connection of a baby who didn't get a chance to live, much like aborted babies don't.

I take offense to your getting into this argument on this thread. But let me just point out that being pro-choice means you can choose to have your baby. Sharon chose to have her baby. According to Roman, it was an unplanned pregnancy. She was in the middle of a thriving career, and she put it all on hold when she got pregnant. She wanted her baby more than her own life. She begged the killers to save the baby and then kill her. She should have been allowed to have it.

Being pro-choice still has nothing to do with the situation. Leave the abortion issue out of it.

Liza
09-25-2009, 09:25 PM
Not to mention that Roman might never have gone off the deep end had Sharon and the baby lived. ohno:

I absolutely agree. Roman's never been right in the head ever since. I can't blame him. How do you begin to rebuild your life after something that dreadful?

How many lives were ruined by this? Sharon's parents spent the rest of their lives fighting to keep the killers behind bars. So did her younger sisters Patti and Debra. None of their lives were ever the same. :(

Janice
09-25-2009, 09:31 PM
I take offense to your getting into this argument on this thread. But let me just point out that being pro choice means you can choose to have your baby. Sharon chose to have her baby... she wanted her baby more than her own life. She begged the killers to save the baby and then kill her. She should have been allowed to have it.

Being pro-choice still has nothing to do with the situation. Leave the abortion issue out of it.
I made one comment, apologized for going off topic, and went back on topic. You're the one who's keeping it up. Again, since you won't let it go; in my mind, I've always equated abortion with Sharon's baby, because people who favor abortion always go on that it's not life. Well, Sharon's baby was a fetus just months before he died. It's the same thing with my nephew. My sister and her boyfriend drove to the abortion clinic, but she couldn't go through with it. Today, my nephew is a handsome 32-year husband and father of three beautiful babies. Now, if you want this topic to end, stop debating.

Janice
09-25-2009, 09:39 PM
Sorry, but Polanski is a piece of crap in my book. Many people suffer tragedy and don't turn into pedophiles. He was crazy when he was married to Sharon. He cheated on her, and I say that anyone who cheats on that beauty had got to have a couple of screws loose.

Liza
09-25-2009, 09:40 PM
I made one comment, apologized for going off topic, and went back on topic. You're the one who's keeping it up. Again, since you won't let it go; in my mind, I've always equated abortion with Sharon's baby, because people who favor abortion always go on that it's not life. Well, Sharon's baby was a fetus just months before he died. It's the same thing with my nephew. My sister and her boyfriend drove to the abortion clinic, but she couldn't go through with it. Today, my nephew is a handsome 32-year husband and father of three beautiful babies. Now, if you want this topic to end, stop debating.

Mentioning abortion is usually asking for trouble, as people feel very strongly one way or another. Whatever, I'm willing to let it go if you are.

Liza
09-25-2009, 09:55 PM
Sorry, but Polanski is a piece of crap in my book. Many people suffer tragedy and don't turn into pedophiles.

There's a lot more to that story than meets the eye. Have you seen "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired"? It's quite interesting.

JamesG
09-25-2009, 09:57 PM
Sorry, but Polanski is a piece of crap in my book. Many people suffer tragedy and don't turn into pedophiles. He was crazy when he was married to Sharon. He cheated on her, and I say that anyone who cheats on that beauty had got to have a couple of screws loose.

I don't believe there are any connections between psychosis and infidelity.

Janice
09-25-2009, 10:02 PM
I don't believe there are any connections between psychosis and infidelity.
There is with being a pedophile. The others were just figures of speech, as in you'd have to be nuts to cheat on that beauty. Turns out he did have major issues after all.

Janice
09-25-2009, 10:03 PM
There's a lot more to that story than meets the eye. Have you seen "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired"? It's quite interesting.
There's no excuse, not to me.

OH Nuts!
09-25-2009, 10:03 PM
Cant say I feel sorry for her.

I as well. Although if ever there were a case that deserved capital punishment this was it. And I know it's what this horrid gang orig. got - although this does point out that life imprisonment is no picnic - and may be more of a punishment thana a rel. quick death. THANK GOD Atkins never got paroled. I never bought that she was REALLY sorry for what she did. Crocadile tears if you ask me.

IMHO Atkins going to need a lot of sun tan lotion where she's going - and I hope she gets an esp. hot room!

Janice
09-25-2009, 10:06 PM
IMHO Atkins going to need a lot of sun tan lotion where she's going - and I hope she gets an esp. hot room!
:lol: :devil:

JamesG
09-25-2009, 10:10 PM
There's a lot more to that story than meets the eye. Have you seen "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired"? It's quite interesting.

I heard that in recent years the girl (now adult) that he violated has been petitioning to have the charges against him dropped or something like that.

catlover79
09-25-2009, 10:41 PM
Sorry, but Polanski is a piece of crap in my book. Many people suffer tragedy and don't turn into pedophiles. He was crazy when he was married to Sharon. He cheated on her, and I say that anyone who cheats on that beauty had got to have a couple of screws loose.
Well, I said he MIGHT not have gone off the deep end. You're right in that other people suffer horrible tragedies and don't go the Woody Allen route. Yes, Roman has cheated and broken the law, and I don't condone that by any means. The fact that he is still overseas and won't come back to the US because he is a fugitive is proof. But we'll never know for sure what may have happened had Sharon and the baby lived.

By the way, Janice, I totally agree that Sharon was a knockout. She was a stunner - and born the same year as my mom (1943)! Maybe that's why I have a soft spot for Sharon. May she and her baby :rip:.

Liza
09-25-2009, 10:42 PM
I heard that in recent years the girl (now adult) that he violated has been petitioning to have the charges against him dropped or something like that.

Yes, she's been trying for the past several years to have the charges dropped and the case dismissed. She's publically forgiven him and says that she believes he has substantially paid for what he did.

catlover79
09-25-2009, 10:49 PM
Yes, she's been trying for the past several years to have the charges dropped and the case dismissed. She's publically forgiven him and says that she believes he has substantially paid for what he did.
Yeah, I've heard that, too. How old is this girl now? She's got to be at least in her early/mid-40s by now.

Pus$y Galore
09-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Kinda nice to know that some people with brain cancer deserve it. I'm sorry folks but I just can't be a hypocryte here and try to say anything nice (although I do agree about her family, but in a sense they've had to suffer 40 years of embarrassment for being related to her so there could be some relief for some of them too.

I'd say hopefully Sharon spits in her face upon arrival, but there's no way she's going to the same place Sharon and her unborn child did.

JamesG
09-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Yeah, I've heard that, too. How old is this girl now? She's got to be at least in her early/mid-40s by now.

You're right. She was 13 in 1977 when this went down so that makes her 45 now.

catlover79
09-25-2009, 11:16 PM
You're right. She was 13 in 1977 when this went down so that makes her 45 now.
Thanks - I knew that the case was over 30 years old so that would be her approximate age.

Dragonflies
09-25-2009, 11:23 PM
There's a special place reserved in hell for scum like this. I hope she suffered worse than what Sharon and her baby did.

Another piece of useless trash gone from this world, and I can't feel one ounce of sorrow over it, given she didn't feel any remorse for what happened to Sharon.

ABlairican Pie
09-26-2009, 12:58 AM
I really want to say something mean, but I don't think you're allowed to do that here on a condolence thread, no matter who it is.
Condolence thread?? :confused: I thought this was just a news item thread.
There was nothing much to find consoling about Susan Atkins' ("Sexy Sadie")
claim to infamy. Good riddance to bad rubbish.


She claimed to have been "born again", but in the words of Lemmy of Motorhead, "The world's worst criminals were ones who saw the light."

Ponder that what you will.

I heard that her claims to be a born again Christian were most likely a ploy to get her off for good behavior or reduce her sentence.

phoebe7165
09-26-2009, 01:47 AM
Condolence thread?? :confused: I thought this was just a news item thread.
There was nothing much to find consoling about Susan Atkins' ("Sexy Sadie")
claim to infamy. Good riddance to bad rubbish.


She claimed to have been "born again", but in the words of Lemmy of Motorhead, "The world's worst criminals were ones who saw the light."

Ponder that what you will.

I heard that her claims to be a born again Christian were most likely a ploy to get her off for good behavior or reduce her sentence.

Sorry, Greg, I guess when I saw that somebody well-known had died, I thought it was a condolence thread, no matter how evil this person is. Not that I was saying anything consoling.

When John Phillips died, I remember some people made some mean comments about him, and they were put in their place. Granted, what Susan did in her life were a million times worse than what John did in his life, but I thought somebody's death was just a death.

Sorry if I misunderstood.

Pus$y Galore
09-26-2009, 01:49 AM
When John Phillips died, I remember some people made some mean comments about him, and they were put in their place. Granted, what Susan did in her life were a million times worse than what John did in his life, but I thought somebody's death was just a death.

Sorry if I misunderstood.


I dunno, after hearing what Mac had to say on Oprah this week, I'd say John is pretty darn close. Talk about someone that shouldn't have ever been allowed to have children! :mad:

catlover79
09-26-2009, 02:05 AM
I dunno, after hearing what Mac had to say on Oprah this week, I'd say John is pretty darn close. Talk about someone that shouldn't have ever been allowed to have children! :mad:
I have to agree there - except Chynna (his daughter with Michelle) seems to have turned out OK. I feel sorry for Mac - every interview or show I've seen her in she comes across as very sweet and gracious. I've heard nothing but good things about her as to how she treats fans. She has never come across as a bad, mean person to me - even when she relapsed last year. God bless her and I hope it's all uphill from here!!

Liza
09-26-2009, 10:01 PM
I felt like I was such a rotten person because my first thought when I read the headlines was honestly "About d@mn time!" I've never rejoiced over the death of anyone before. No one. But I was actually glad to hear Sadie Mae has gone over to the great beyond. She was a burden to the people of California financially, and to every family member of the victims emotionally.

Susan Atkins was a monster. I've read so much about the crimes that I have seen redeeming qualities in some members - Leslie Van Houten I believe is truly sorry for what she did. However, I never believed anything Atkins said. I think she's almost as manipulative as Charlie. She said whatever she could to get herself out. And it never worked, thank God. There is justice. I'm glad she's gone and won't be burdening anyone else anymore.