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Chocoholic
08-15-2009, 08:43 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539741,00.html

Utterly ridiculous! :mad: I guess freedom of speech and expression doesn't apply to Christians. Meanwhile, rapists, murderers, and other criminals roam the streets.

The ACLU needs to be done away with.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/

catlover79
08-15-2009, 08:44 PM
Just sickening. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

beautifuldreamer
08-15-2009, 08:46 PM
So much for the First Amendment. :rolleyes:
That's just.... :mad:

Chocoholic
08-15-2009, 08:49 PM
I'd expect to hear this story happening in the Middle East, but not here. I am officially disgusted. Those liberals are such hypocrites. They talk about tolerance and equality as long as you're not Christian. They are no better than the Taliban.

catlover79
08-15-2009, 08:51 PM
I'd expect to hear this story happening in the Middle East, but not here. I am officially disgusted. Those liberals are such hypocrites. They talk about tolerance and equality as long as you're not Christian. They are no better than the Taliban.
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

browneyes106
08-15-2009, 10:10 PM
This story pisses me off.

Marvo301
08-15-2009, 10:23 PM
It seems to me there is a significant difference between praying (what these men did) and promoting prayer (what they're being accused of). It's seems unbelievable to me that we are sending soldiers to places like Iraq and Afghanistan to give those people more freedoms and meanwhile our freedoms are being taken away from us!!!! :mad:

dakert
08-15-2009, 10:41 PM
I am a so called liberal and if you want to pray anytime/anywhere, go for it :wave:

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
08-15-2009, 10:42 PM
I am a so called liberal and if you want to pray anytime/anywhere, go for it :wave:
Ditto. I'm sick of the "those liberal" comments, as if everyone is the same and it's always "liberals" pulling that crap.

Chocoholic
08-15-2009, 11:24 PM
^ Not us Christians, Lauren. We might offend somebody ;)

catlover79
08-15-2009, 11:31 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539741,00.html

Utterly ridiculous! :mad: I guess freedom of speech and expression doesn't apply to Christians. Meanwhile, rapists, murderers, and other criminals roam the streets.

The ACLU needs to be done away with.

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/
Oh, you're talking about the Anti Christian Liberals Union! :rolleyes: :mad:

catlover79
08-15-2009, 11:32 PM
I am a so called liberal and if you want to pray anytime/anywhere, go for it :wave:
THANK YOU!! :cool: :D

Hollow
08-15-2009, 11:37 PM
Ditto. I'm sick of the "those liberal" comments, as if everyone is the same and it's always "liberals" pulling that crap.
exactly. to criticize "those liberals" for being hypocrites is, well, hypocritical. hypocrisy comes from your personality (even if it's just a habit or honest mistake), not from what your political beliefs are, give me a break. but people find it more convenient to have a wider target of blame.

i knew that headline was out of context when i saw it. they're in trouble for violating a court agreement not to LEAD prayers at school, it's not "for praying." not that i get butthurt every time someone talks to their food, but if you say you're going to do something, do it. boy does it pay to read full articles instead of just the ~*shocking*~ and out-of-context headlines that the journalists throw out there for attention whoring purposes.

Janice
08-16-2009, 12:01 AM
I am a so called liberal and if you want to pray anytime/anywhere, go for it :wave:
Unfortunately, it's not always up to you. Rules are implemented and such, and not even you can pray in certain places, not out loud anyway.

JT
08-16-2009, 12:33 AM
exactly. to criticize "those liberals" for being hypocrites is, well, hypocritical. hypocrisy comes from your personality (even if it's just a habit or honest mistake), not from what your political beliefs are, give me a break. but people find it more convenient to have a wider target of blame.

i knew that headline was out of context when i saw it. they're in trouble for violating a court agreement not to LEAD prayers at school, it's not "for praying." not that i get butthurt every time someone talks to their food, but if you say you're going to do something, do it. boy does it pay to read full articles instead of just the ~*shocking*~ and out-of-context headlines that the journalists throw out there for attention whoring purposes.
Gracias.

This here isn't an issue of whether or not the rule is unjust (and, IMO, it is), but about the fact that two people broke a rule that they were obviously aware of. You break a rule, you get punished for it, no matter how ridiculous the rule is. Contrary to popular belief, the best way to change a rule or law is not to...you know...actually break that rule or law.

Stuck In The '70's
08-16-2009, 12:53 AM
It's disgusting.

Courtnee
08-16-2009, 01:48 AM
exactly. to criticize "those liberals" for being hypocrites is, well, hypocritical. hypocrisy comes from your personality (even if it's just a habit or honest mistake), not from what your political beliefs are, give me a break. but people find it more convenient to have a wider target of blame.

i knew that headline was out of context when i saw it. they're in trouble for violating a court agreement not to LEAD prayers at school, it's not "for praying." not that i get butthurt every time someone talks to their food, but if you say you're going to do something, do it. boy does it pay to read full articles instead of just the ~*shocking*~ and out-of-context headlines that the journalists throw out there for attention whoring purposes.
Yeah. I knew this was gonna be blown out of proportion.

Hey, journalists, I see what you did there.

*Pleasant Tomorrow*
08-16-2009, 01:50 AM
Yeah. I knew this was gonna be blown out of proportion.

Hey, journalists, I see what you did there.
Sure makes it easy for everyone who just wants to be angry to just ignore the facts.

Schmoopie
08-16-2009, 05:37 AM
Wow, I mean even though they supposedly broke the law, I hope they get out of prison time. I've seen people praying in restaurants before they eat and it doesn't bother me at all.

80sTrivia
08-16-2009, 05:43 AM
t's seems unbelievable to me that we are sending soldiers to places like Iraq and Afghanistan to give those people more freedoms and meanwhile our freedoms are being taken away from us!!!! :mad:

So very true... and extremely frightening... :eek:

catlover79
08-16-2009, 09:04 AM
So very true... and extremely frightening... :eek:
It IS scary - and infuriating. :mad:

Doodyville10019
08-16-2009, 12:02 PM
I consider myself a very serious liberal and I STILL don't understand the ACLU's point, since the basic tenets of Christianity (respect, love for one another, basic laws about not killing, not stealing, etc.) are also basic tenants of just about every other major world religion.

If you want to pray, then I say do it!

Sharop
08-16-2009, 02:28 PM
I understand that they broke a rule, but, like Schmoopie, I hope they don't have to go to jail for it. Even if they did break a rule, that punishment seems extreme to me.

I'm a New Ager and a Christian. So people can pray at my house and also hold seances too. :)

MrCleveland
08-16-2009, 03:08 PM
This is bull****!

There's many people who share other faiths and should they get jailed too?

MickeyMac
08-17-2009, 02:40 PM
This is beyond outrageous. Its a crime now to pray. Soon it will be a crime to go to church on Sunday, if laws like this continue. :mad: :mad: :mad:

MrCleveland
08-17-2009, 03:10 PM
This is beyond outrageous. Its a crime now to pray. Soon it will be a crime to go to church on Sunday, if laws like this continue. :mad: :mad: :mad:

If that's the case...we may have to use the Soviet Flag.