TV Land May 2009 -- Cosby Mom Appreciation; The Cougar Continues

[Pavan]

TV Land May 2009 --


Blog Story: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2009/03/tv-land-may-2009-highlights-tv-land.html

Regular schedule:

Changes:

Weeknights, effective Wednesday, May 13, 2009
6:00PM & 6:30PM The Beverly Hillbillies (replaces Hogan's Heroes/Green Acres)
7:00PM & 7:30PM The Andy Griffith Show (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)
9:00PM & 9:30PM Roseanne Tues-Fri (replacing Andy Griffith)
12:00AM & 12:30AM Roseanne Mon-Wed, Fri (replacing 3rd Rock from the Sun)
1:00AM Roseanne Mon-Wed, Fri (replacing Cosby Show)
2:00AM Cosby Show Mon-Wed (replaces Sanford & Son)

Thursdays
10:00PM-1:00AM Married with Children (replaces M*A*S*H)
2:30AM-3:30AM Cosby Show (replaces Sanford & Son/The Jeffersons)

Fridays
9:00PM-2:30AM Roseanne (replaces Andy Griffith Show 2x, TV Land PRIME Movie, 3rd Rock from the Sun, The Cosby Show 2x, Sanford & Son)
2:30AM-3:30AM Cosby Show (replaces Sanford & Son/The Jeffersons)
3:30AM Sanford & Son (replaces The Jeffersons)
4:00AM The Jeffersons (replaces Good Times)

Saturdays
7:00PM-8:00PM Andy Griffith Show (replaces Leave it to Beaver)
11:00PM-1:00AM Cosby Show (replaces MASH)
1:00AM-4:00AM Roseanne (replaces Three's Company)
4:00AM-6:00AM Three's Company (replaces Little House on the Prairie 2x)

Sundays
10:00AM Hogan's Heroes (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)
1:00AM-3:00AM Roseanne (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)


FULL SCHEDULE

Weekdays
6:00AM Paid Programming
9:00AM All in the Family
9:30AM Sanford and Son
10:00AM The Jeffersons
10:30AM The Jeffersons
11:00AM Good Times
11:30AM Good Times
12:00PM Gunsmoke (Mon); Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (Tues-Fri)
1:00PM Gunsmoke (Mon); Beverly Hillbillies 2x (Tues-Fri)
2:00PM Bonanza (Mon); Gunsmoke (Tues-Fri)
3:00PM Bonanza (Mon); Gunsmoke (Tues-Fri)
4:00PM Bonanza
5:00PM Bonanza
6:00PM The Beverly Hillbillies
6:30PM The Beverly Hillbillies
7:00PM The Andy Griffith Show
7:30PM The Andy Griffith Show
8:00PM The Andy Griffith Show
8:30PM The Andy Griffith Show
9:00PM The Andy Griffith Show (Mon); Roseanne (Tues-Fri)
9:30PM The Andy Griffith Show (Mon); Roseanne (Tues-Fri)
10:00PM-12:00AM The Andy Griffith Show; The Cosby Show (Tues); The Cougar (Wed); Married...with Children (Thurs); Roseanne (Fri)
12:00AM Roseanne (Mon-Wed, Fri); Married...with Children (Thurs)
12:30AM Roseanne (Mon-Wed, Fri); Married...with Children (Thurs)
1:00AM Roseanne (Mon-Tues, Fri); The Cougar encore (Wed); Married...with Children (Thurs)
1:30AM The Cosby Show (Mon-Tues); The Cougar encore cont. (Wed); Roseanne (Thurs-Fri)
2:00AM The Cosby Show (Mon-Tues); Sanford & Son (Wed); Roseanne (Thurs-Fri)
2:30AM Sanford & Son (Mon-Wed); The Cosby Show (Thurs-Fri)
3:00AM The Jeffersons (Mon-Wed); The Cosby Show (Thurs-Fri)
3:30AM The Jeffersons (Mon-Thurs); Sanford & Son (Fri)
4:00AM Good Times (Mon-Thurs); The Jeffersons (Fri)
4:30AM Good Times
5:00AM M*A*S*H
5:30AM M*A*S*H

Saturdays
6:00AM TV Land Movie Encores
8:00AM Cougar Encores/Movie cont.
9:00AM Cougar Encores/Brady Bunch 2x
10:00AM Brady Bunch
10:30AM Brady Bunch
11:00AM Leave it to Beaver
11:30AM Leave it to Beaver
12:00PM Leave it to Beaver
12:30PM Leave it to Beaver
1:00PM Gunsmoke
2:00PM Gunsmoke
3:00PM Bonanza
4:00PM Bonanza
5:00PM Bonanza
6:00PM Bonanza
7:00PM-11:00PM The Andy Griffith Show
11:00PM-1:00AM The Cosby Show
1:00AM-4:00AM Roseanne
4:00AM-6:00AM Three's Company

Sundays
6:00AM Star Trek
7:00AM Gunsmoke
8:00AM Bonanza
9:00AM Bonanza
10:00AM Hogan's Heroes
10:30AM-1:00PM The Beverly Hillbillies
1:00PM Gunsmoke
2:00PM Gunsmoke
3:00PM Bonanza
4:00PM Bonanza
5:00PM Bonanza
6:00PM Bonanza
7:00PM-10:30PM The Andy Griffith Show
10:30PM-1:00AM M*A*S*H
1:00AM-3:00AM Roseanne
3:00AM-4:00AM The Brady Bunch
4:00AM Little House on the Prairie
5:00AM Little House on the Prairie


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Some minor one-time-only adjustments:
(does not include Movies and Original Encores)

Friday, May 1
3:00pm Gunsmoke
4:00pm Bonanza
5:00pm Bonanza
6:00pm Hogan's Heroes

Thursday, May 7
1am-2am 3rd Rock from the Sun

Saturday, May 9
7pm-11pm Andy Griffith (extended)
11pm-1:30am M*A*S*H (extended)

Thursday, May 14
10pm-1am Married...with Children

Saturday, May 16
10am-11:30am Brady Bunch
11:30am-1pm Leave it to Beaver
7pm Bonanza

Monday, May 25
9am-12pm Brady Bunch

Saturday, May 30
6am Brady Bunch
9am-7pm Bonanza

Sunday, May 31
6am-10pm Bonanza





Specials & Marathons






- Friday Nite Movies
Every Friday starting at 10pm e/p
TV Land Friday Movies continue this winter!
We all know them and we all love them. We have all seen these movies so many times we can quote entire scenes verbatim...yet we still watch them whenever they're on. These classic movies are back for nostalgic enjoyment this spring on TV Land.

Friday, May 1, 10p-12:30a
Witches of Eastwick

Friday, May 8, 10p-12:30a
Patriot Games

Friday, May 15, 10p-1a
The Fugitive

Friday, May 22, 10p-12a
The Twilight Zone

Friday, May 29, 10p-12:30a
Witches of Eastwick

Saturday encores / premieres:
Saturday, May 2: 6am-8:30am Witches of Eastwick
Saturday, May 9: 6am-8:30am Patriot Games
Saturday, May 16: 6am-9am The Fugitive
Saturday, May 23: 6am-8pm The Twilight Zone
Saturday, May 30: 6:30am-9am Witches of Eastwick

Special encores / premieres:
None




-The Cougar
Wednesday at 10pm ET/PT started April 15, 2009
Stacey Anderson, a stunning 40-year-old successful realtor from Scottsdale, Arizona, is the "Cougar" in TV Land's new original series "The Cougar." The eight-episode series is hosted by Vivica A. Fox ("Kill Bill: Vol. 1," "Curb Your Enthusiasm") and follows Anderson as she searches for love among a pool of 20 eligible twenty-something men. The one-hour elimination dating series is executive produced by Mike Fleiss ("The Bachelor") through his NEXT Entertainment production company in association with Warner Horizon Television
Encores: Wednesdays 11pm & 1am; Thursdays 3am; Fridays 11:59pm; Saturdays 12pm & 9pm; Sundays 11am, 6pm, & 1am; Mondays 10pm; Tuesdays 11:59pm.




-PRIME's Mom Appreciation Nite
Thursday, May 7, 2009
9pm-1am ET/PT
Viewers get to spend some time with Mom and "The Cos" just in time for Mother's Day when TV Land Prime gives moms everywhere the nite off!
Prime presents a special Cosby marathon salute to Mom with episodes that feature Cliff struggling to entertain the kids and keep the household in order as he indulges his wife Clair with some well deserved time away from Huxtable family mayhem.

9p Cliff Babysits - #111
9:30p A Girl and Her Dog - #059
10p Cliff in Charge - #061
10:30p Slumber Party - #022
11p Rudy’s Sick - #012
11:30p Cliff La Dolce - #135
12a Knight to Knight - #011
12:30a Clair’s Place - #188














Blog Story: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2009/03/tv-land-may-2009-highlights-tv-land.html

[tvparadise]

With the first week of June just a week off from the end of this schedule release, any idea if a renewal decision has been made on Leave it to Beaver?

[JulieSomoski]

So much for TV Land PRIME - they might as well call it the Andy Griffith block from now on.

[Pavan]

No news on Beaver yet. Andy is 7-10pm. Only one hour of that is in PRIME.

[factsoflife]

Question about the TV LAND awards... will there be any on-line categories this year? i love voting for on-line stuff every year. If so when will those categories be opened for voting?

[clj2]

I doubt they'll renew Beaver.....remember we can still watch it on RTN who treats their shows much better when things are running properly.

[Scoobiedoo30]

so you think Leave it To Beaver will not get renewed

[clj2]

Any updates on Beaver? I guess it's reached the end of its rope on TV Land. :( Or is it low on plays or something? I know it always did very well and aired in good slots until recently. It's been a staple for so long; even more than Lucy was.

I find it hard to believe Green Acres would get enough ratings to air afternoons instead of LITB. That was never the case....it was usually Beaver afternoons, Acres weekends. Any insight, Pav? Have Beaver fans finally gotten tired of it after 11 years?

Interesting to see all of these 60s/70s shows getting the good slots when we all thought that's what they were moving away from several years ago. Never fails....they get the recent shows and always wind up going back to the old reliable; Andy, Gunsmoke, Hillbillies, etc. If I were them, I would acquire some of the shows that they aired 7-8 years ago and have rested for a while. Review the ratings; get what did well back then again. Like they did Hillbillies and Hogan's, both seem to be doing well. Please....no more Hunter, Vice/S&S/A-Team/Knight Rider, 227, Murphy Brown, Just Shoot Me, Wings, Night Court, Scrubs, etc type adds....shows like that JUST DON'T WORK WELL on there for some reason. Cheers and Cosby are 80s shows that fit pretty well and did decently.

[tvparadise]

I think Green Acres is played where it is because it fits with the other shows that are played around it. If you look at it TV Land has moved to having 3 main themed sitcom blocks- Norman Lear Shows (All in the Family, Sanford and Son, The Jeffersons, Good Times), Rural Shows (Green Acres, Beverly Hillbillies, Hogan's Heroes, The Andy Griffith Show), and Prime (3rd Rock, Cosby Show)

TV Land has 3 sitcoms that don't fit into those 2 categories (Leave it to Beaver, The Brady Bunch, and Three's Company) and thus air weekends only.

M*A*S*H would probably air in afternoons/early evening, but they only can air it between 8pm - 8am--so that's why it is in overnights primarily.

It makes me wonder if the 2 classics coming later this year will either be Norman Lear or rural shows? Also makes me wonder if Green Acres and The Jeffersons have a better chance of renewal that LITB?

For the record, I'm happy Green Acres does air like it does as I like it much better than the Hillbillies. But outside of TAGS, I'm not real big on all the rural programming. I certainly prefer the Norman Lear/weekend sitcoms.

[clj2]

Remember Green Acres and The Jeffersons both expire this year so they could release both of them so there wouldn't be so much Lear/rural.

I'm hoping for Get Smart, That Girl, Alice, or at least something similar. 1 60s and 1 70s would be nice replacements and let the other 2 go maybe.

[Pavan]

TV Land has changed their May schedule a bit starting May 4. See first post for the full schedule. Among the changes are more westerns on weekdays now extended from 2pm-6pm Tues-Fri. This means the Monday block is now from 12pm-6pm. Evening sitcoms now start 6pm with Hogan's Heroes and Green Acres. Hillbillies remains in the 7pm hour. TV Land Goes West is added also on Saturdays from 1pm-7pm, just like Sundays. This means the TV Land movie encores are now Saturdays at 6am. Brady Bunch on Saturdays is now 9am-11am, with Beaver from 11am-1pm leading into the westerns. Beaver also airs 7-8pm, followed by blocks of Andy from 8pm-11pm, M*A*S*H 11pm-1am, and Three's Company from 1am-3am. Sundays has Hillbillies from 10am-1pm leading into the westerns. Andy follows from 7-10pm, then M*A*S*H from 10pm-1am, Hillbillies from 1am-3am, and an hour of Brady Bunch in the 3am hour.
Again see the first post for the full schedule. It is now more of a regular schedule, especially on weekends, so less one time adjustments now.

This is now CANCELED and replaced with regular schedule (TV Land Goes West):
-The Cougar Memorial Day Marathon
Monday, May 25, 2009
12pm-6pm ET/PT
It's been six weeks since single sophisticated cougar Stacey embarked on her prowl to find her perfect cub. Prior to the season finale and Stacey's final pick on Wednesday, June 3, come relive all of the romance, laughs, tears and heartbreaks with a marathon of the first six episodes. Tune in to see additional footage and dramatic deleted scenes as well as get an inside scoop on what everyone from Stacey to Vivica to the guys were really thinking.

[clj2]

Bah. More of those same 2 westerns. And still no weekday Beaver :(

[JT]

Bah. More of those same 2 westerns. And still no weekday Beaver :(
In place of that monstrosity "The Cougar." Given the choice between the Cartwrights/Matt Dillon and "single sophisticated cougar Stacey," I'd have to toss Stacey's single sophisticated ass out.

It's really not that horrid. They do seem to be moving back to where they were 4-5 years ago. The movies aren't on as much anymore, Cougar seems to have done not as good as they hoped...the westerns keep getting more timeslots, which IMO, is a major win for all types of classic TV because you just don't get any more old-fashioned than westerns. The westerns are the complete and total opposite of their originals.

I'm just interested to see how they go through 2009. They get ragged on a lot (DESERVEDLY), but sometimes it doesn't seem so bad. The majority of their schedule is the usual type of stuff you'd expect on TVLand, so who knows...they might start inching back to what they used to be.

[clj2]

In place of that monstrosity "The Cougar." Given the choice between the Cartwrights/Matt Dillon and "single sophisticated cougar Stacey," I'd have to toss Stacey's single sophisticated ass out.

It's really not that horrid. They do seem to be moving back to where they were 4-5 years ago. The movies aren't on as much anymore, Cougar seems to have done not as good as they hoped...the westerns keep getting more timeslots, which IMO, is a major win for all types of classic TV because you just don't get any more old-fashioned than westerns. The westerns are the complete and total opposite of their originals.

I'm just interested to see how they go through 2009. They get ragged on a lot (DESERVEDLY), but sometimes it doesn't seem so bad. The majority of their schedule is the usual type of stuff you'd expect on TVLand, so who knows...they might start inching back to what they used to be.
True. The only "wow" spot is 3rd Rock From The Sun....and they have sacked all of the 80s/90s sitcoms that failed. However, if these westerns do so well, why not acquire more so we don't have so much of the same 2 we've seen for years?

Any info on whether or not Beaver will be renewed yet? I'm doubting..

[tvparadise]

Any info on whether or not Beaver will be renewed yet? I'm doubting..

I'm guessing we will know that as soon as the TV Land June highlights are released. It's so close!

I'm optimistic about Beaver. They might at least keep it to fill those slots on Saturday. I don't think they can play the westerns, Andy Griffith, or Beverly Hillbillies that much more. They don't seem to use the Lear shows too much for weekends. More Brady Bunch? Maybe, but I think Beaver probably does a little better. Cougar/movies/3rd Rock not working on the weekends could be a good sign for Beaver....

I like it when they have a consistent weekend schedule! Hopefully they'll keep it!

[bliggenstrauff]

That huge sucking noise isn't coming from a giant vacuum, it's coming from TV land! TV land sucks more and more all the time and is rapidly turning into Hallmark channel

[TVFactFan]

Well glad to see the Jeffersons and Three's Company is still in Place for the month of May

[JT]

True. The only "wow" spot is 3rd Rock From The Sun....and they have sacked all of the 80s/90s sitcoms that failed. However, if these westerns do so well, why not acquire more so we don't have so much of the same 2 we've seen for years?

Any info on whether or not Beaver will be renewed yet? I'm doubting..
Yeah, they should definitely try some other westerns. Maybe sandwich them in between airings of Bonanza and Gunsmoke? I'm thinking The Big Valley and The High Chaparral.

[Pavan]

I do have the fate of Beaver. I'll announce that and June tomorrow. June is a go for tomorrow. Lots of Roseanne, that's all I will say.

[Scoobiedoo30]

What do you mean by you have the fate of Bever

[TVFactFan]

I do have the fate of Beaver. I'll announce that and June tomorrow. June is a go for tomorrow. Lots of Roseanne, that's all I will say.


In the words of my grandmom-"That sounds like sh*t to me"


LOL

[clj2]

I do have the fate of Beaver. I'll announce that and June tomorrow. June is a go for tomorrow. Lots of Roseanne, that's all I will say.

I agree with b&tcfan that they are going to need LITB eventually though. It has better staying power than many of the 50s/60s shows have had on there.

I am predicting Roseanne will air in PRIME from 10pm-12am and LITB will not be renewed. Cold? Hot? Warm? LOL....I know, I know. I'll try my best to wait.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I say Roseanne will air from 8:00 pm until 9:00 pm CT Time.

[Cheryl Harrell]

I bet Beaver is gone with my luck. :( I HATE how Tvland is dumping the old shows for this new junk like the Cougar & the High School Reunion mess. I want to watch old shows & they sure are dwindling. We had better tv when there was only 3 channels...

[JulieSomoski]

Roseanne did well for NAN all those years, it'll become a huge hit for TV Land. Whether you're a fan of the show or not, you have to admit that they are in dire need of a hit show in primetime. And Roseanne is a show that can do, that while also bringing in that demo they're looking for.

I can't wait for it to come - I've been missing it in primetime. My guess is 8pm-midnight, every night (or something like that) ;)

[Scoobiedoo30]

What ever Time TV Land gives Roseanne I know Roseanne will do well for TV Land.

[Jude The Obscure]

I'm just astounded at how much they are using Gunsmoke and Bonanza. AFIK, they only have certain seasons of Bonanza, correct? Heaven forbid we see any of the black/white years of Gunsmoke--those haven't been seen on a national scale is so many years, they would feel like fresh episodes to those who watched only the color years on TVL. Does Encore Westerns still have the hour b& w shows? I was shocked when several years ago, my local Fox actually reran the half hour "Marshall Dillon" syndicated package.

[clj2]

Roseanne did well for NAN all those years, it'll become a huge hit for TV Land. Whether you're a fan of the show or not, you have to admit that they are in dire need of a hit show in primetime. And Roseanne is a show that can do, that while also bringing in that demo they're looking for.

I can't wait for it to come - I've been missing it in primetime. My guess is 8pm-midnight, every night (or something like that) ;)

The Cosby Show was a smash on NAN (remember 2002-2005?) and appears to be only marginally successful if even that on TV Land. I wouldn't be surprised if it (Cosby) goes on hiatus at some point -- it has been on there off and on since 2006 and doesn't seem to have generated anything extrodinary...who's watching it at 1:30AM? Scrubs was a disaster.... These are both shows that they had high hopes for that failed or weren't jaw-dropping (and aired on sister channels, successfully).

I think it will do OK but not through the roof. I am not a Roseanne or Cosby fan ;) but if they do well, hey, I can't change that and won't go on about it. It's just my opinion, the final judgement will be the ratings which no one can dispute. I say Roseanne 10PM-12AM, 4 episodes.

[JT]

I'm just astounded at how much they are using Gunsmoke and Bonanza. AFIK, they only have certain seasons of Bonanza, correct? Heaven forbid we see any of the black/white years of Gunsmoke--those haven't been seen on a national scale is so many years, they would feel like fresh episodes to those who watched only the color years on TVL. Does Encore Westerns still have the hour b& w shows? I was shocked when several years ago, my local Fox actually reran the half hour "Marshall Dillon" syndicated package.
I think they air the whole run, no? Or maybe not...I don't think I've ever seen any Hoss-less episodes from the last season or any with the other theme song.

Encore Westerns stopped showing the 60-minute B&W episodes of Gunsmoke a few years ago. I know Hallmark Channel aired the 30-minute episodes years ago when they did Westerns all day on Saturdays.

[TVFactFan]

Bonanza and Gunsmoke is stuck on the TV land schedule like a tic on a dog's a$$

LOL

[tvparadise]

It is weird how Cosby Show only airs Tuesdays and late nights now. I can't remember if Viacom only has the rights to Roseanne during night hours or not? I'm going to guess it will air 8x a day (12x on Mon/Thu).

My predictions (probably pretty wrong):
9am - 2pm remains the same
2:00pm- Gunsmoke
3:00pm- Bonanza
4:00pm- Bonanza (possibly Hogan's Heroes x2)
5:00pm- Beverly Hillbillies
5:30pm- Beverly Hillbillies
6pm- 8pm- The Andy Griffith Show
8pm - 10pm- Roseanne
10pm - 12am:
Mon- Roseanne
Tue- The Cosby Show
Wed- Cougar/She's Got The Look
Thu- Roseanne
Fri- Movie

12am - 2am- Roseanne
2:00am- The Cosby Show
2:30am- The Cosby Show
3:00am- 3rd Rock From the Sun
3:30am- 3rd Rock From the Sun
4:00am- Good Times
4:30am- Good Times
5:00am- M*A*S*H
5:30am- M*A*S*H

[Scoobiedoo30]

That seems like a good schedule

[clj2]

I don't see TAGS leaving primetime. It's a staple and there is always a disaster when they move it. Remember LITB also does well evenings and although it may not fit well with the westerns and Hillbillies, if it is renewed and they need a show to help boost ratings in the evenings, it can always air back-to-back from 6-7 and move the others around.

PRIME is between 9pm and 12am, so Roseanne will have to air between then. I see Cosby or 3rd being whacked or cut down greatly. It could always go 8-10 TAGS, 10-12 Roseanne, 12-1 MASH, then who knows. MASH does well.

[factsoflife]

i know i'm in the minority here but i'd personally like to see TV LAND totally drop all the 50's, 60's and 70's stuff and air only stuff from the 80's, 90's and today. I think it's time for them to jump full force into the new stuff. Leave the old people shows for Hallmark.

[Pavan]

Viacom only has Roseanne from like 6pm-6am.

[bossradio93]

Bonanza and Gunsmoke is stuck on the TV land schedule like a tic on a dog's a$$LOL



In the greater Los Angeles/Orange County area of Southern California, KDOC-TV Channel 56, an Independent commercial classic TV station (in Anaheim, CA,) airs both shows you've mentioned (Gunsmoke, 8:00pm & Bonanza at 9:00pm as well as The Wild Wild West at 7:00pm as part of its "Western Weekends" a couple of months ago.

[tvparadise]

I don't really see Roseanne just being 10pm - 12am because on Wednesdays they air originals during those hours and Fridays the movie only leaving 3 nights for Roseanne. Remember back in the fall they moved Andy Griffith back to 5pm - 7pm, then it went 6 - 8, 7 - 9, and now 8 - 10. I think they'll try and move it closer to afternoons again to move in the new direction desired for Prime. I think it will atleast move back to 7 - 8pm.

3rd Rock probably doesn't have too much more time. I don't think Cosby is quite done. I could see Cosby Show being at 8/8:30pm. It may be a better lead-in for Roseanne than Andy Griffith (and better lead-out of Andy Griffith).

M*A*S*H does well, but they can only air it at night and I don't think it quite hits inside the desired demo and that's why it's mainly just used for weekend primetime.

Maybe if Beaver is renewed and placed back on the weekday line-up, it could air at 5/5:30pm between Bonanza and Andy. I could also see it at 12/12:30pm.

[Pavan]

Excellent points on The Andy Griffith Show, b&tcfan, but as far as the originals go (She's Got the Look 2)...they are on the move to a new night and time. You'll see a few shows totally gone, a few shows heavily reduced and one show return from the dead. I'll release it at noon.

[tvparadise]

A show return from the dead....well unless they've re-acquired a show-- it's got to be Scrubs or Just Shoot Me as those are the only shows not currently airing. I'd guess JSM out of those 2. Unless it's something like Star Trek, Little House, or Three's Company that airs very little now.

I hope they don't remove too much. As much complaining as there is about TV Land, I have to say kudos to them for their schedule for the last 4 months. They've been airing everything they have at least a little bit- bringing back All in the Family, The Brady Bunch and Green Acres after several months off at the end of 08. But I guess it's time for a shake-up...it certainly keeps in interesting.

More predictions:
Gone- Extreme Makeover, Green Acres
Reduced- Bonanza, Gunsmoke, Andy Griffith

[clj2]

Back from the dead? I'm saying Brady Bunch, 3's Co., or Leave it to Beaver. OR, they can swap JSM for another show through Program Exchange (Munsters?).

Reduced would be Gunsmoke and Bonanza of course, and either TAGS, 3rd Rock or Cosby. As for Cos, they seem determined to make it work, even though it doesn't seem to be.

Gone, could, be All in the Family or Extreme Makeover. Heck, maybe 3rd Rock. Pavan, I'll be refreshing like crazy for noon!

[robyrob]

i noticed this morning that TVLand actually was OFF AIR - for an hour between infomercials, the guide showed SIGN OFF and they had a test pattern up.

i quite enjoyed it.

[TVFactFan]

i noticed this morning that TVLand actually was OFF AIR - for an hour between infomercials, the guide showed SIGN OFF and they had a test pattern up.

i quite enjoyed it.


Sounds more enjoyable than the Cougar and the TV Land Awards-lol

[Scoobiedoo30]

TV Lands was just susposed to be off the air from 4:30 am until 5:00 am CT Time

[Pavan]

They have that every month.

[robyrob]

They have that every month.
they should do more to promote it.

[JulieSomoski]

they should do more to promote it.

Turning on TV Land to nothing but test patterns? It could be one of their highest rated shows ;)

[clj2]

I see Married ... With Children is airing from 10pm-1am this Thursday.

Also Beaver is not airing from 7-8pm on Saturday as they said.

Are these last-minute changes?

What the heck is wrong with them and TAGS? They are bouncing everywhere with the episodes. The 9PM episodes often re-run at 8PM the next night and they go from B&W to color, and back and forth some nights. I am sure they are skipping some of the more popular episodes. I've seen some episodes 3 times in one week.

[Pavan]

TV Land didn't release anything on Friday, so that is odd. I'll find out Monday, but I think Married...with Children did well for them a few weeks ago. And Beaver was already not scheduled to air today and next week 7-8pm. See the one-time adjustments. As always is the case for skipped episodes, they are saving airplays. By airing an episode of Andy at 9pm and encoring it the next night at 8pm, that only counts as one play.

[Pavan]

Episode info for Married...with Children on TV Land on Thursday, May 14 from 10pm-1am ET/PT


10:00 PM #14 Poppy's By the Tree (1)
In the second season opener, the Bundy's go to a sleazy, dumpy motel in Dumpwater Florida. Trouble heads their way when an axe murderer, who hates tourists, arrives.
10:30 PM #15 Poppy's By the Tree (2)
Peg is kidnapped by the axe murderer and it's up to Al to save her.
11:00 PM #39 The Camping Show (aka A Period Piece)
A nice weekend away for the Rhoadeses and the Bundys turns into misery for the men when Peg, Kelly, and Marcy all have their periods at the same time.
11:30 PM #44 Requiem for a Dead Barber
Al grows his hair when his barber dies, and fears he is turning into a "sissy" just because he has to go to salons.
12:00 AM #58 Hot off the Grill
Marcy's dead aunt's ashes end up in the Labor Day hamburgers
12:30 AM #70 Who'll Stop the Rain
Al's pride and "do-it-yourself" beliefs annoys the rest of the family when Al decides to fix the leaking roof himself.

[clj2]

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if they add MWC as a regular the way things are going.

As for TAGS, they've been airing it pretty heavily since the contract was last renewed -- I would think they're starting to run low on plays and are scared because it pretty much carries the network, so they are being careful.

[clj2]

I originally put this in the June thread, but it's May..

Some schedule alterations according to tvland.com

Thursday 5/14

Hillbillies 6-7pm
TAGS will be 7-9pm
9-10pm Roseanne
10pm-1am Married With Children
1am-2am Roseanne
2:30-3:30am Cosby Show
3:30am Jeffersons
4-6 same as usual

Friday
Hillbillies 6-7pm
TAGS 7-9PM
Roseanne 9pm-2:30am
2:30-3:30am Cosby Show
3:30am Sanford and Son
4:00am Jeffersons
4:30am Good Times
5-6am M*A*S*H

Saturday
7pm-11pm TAGS
11pm-1am Cosby Show
1am-4am Roseanne
4am-6am Threes Company

Sunday
7pm-10:30pm TAGS
10:30pm-1am M*A*S*H
1am-3am Roseanne
3am-4am Brady Bunch

what?

[Pavan]

Roseanne is coming earlier than planned. It starts TONIGHT leading into an all-new The Cougar.

Here are the changes:

Weeknights, effective Wednesday, May 13, 2009
6:00PM & 6:30PM The Beverly Hillbillies (replaces Hogan's Heroes/Green Acres)
7:00PM & 7:30PM The Andy Griffith Show (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)
9:00PM & 9:30PM Roseanne Tues-Fri (replacing Andy Griffith)
12:00AM & 12:30AM Roseanne Mon-Wed, Fri (replacing 3rd Rock from the Sun)
1:00AM Roseanne Mon-Wed, Fri (replacing Cosby Show)
2:00AM Cosby Show Mon-Wed (replaces Sanford & Son)

Thursdays
10:00PM-1:00AM Married with Children (replaces M*A*S*H)
2:30AM-3:30AM Cosby Show (replaces Sanford & Son/The Jeffersons)

Fridays
9:00PM-2:30AM Roseanne (replaces Andy Griffith Show 2x, TV Land PRIME Movie, 3rd Rock from the Sun, The Cosby Show 2x, Sanford & Son)
2:30AM-3:30AM Cosby Show (replaces Sanford & Son/The Jeffersons)
3:30AM Sanford & Son (replaces The Jeffersons)
4:00AM The Jeffersons (replaces Good Times)

Saturdays
7:00PM-8:00PM Andy Griffith Show (replaces Leave it to Beaver)
11:00PM-1:00AM Cosby Show (replaces MASH)
1:00AM-4:00AM Roseanne (replaces Three's Company)
4:00AM-6:00AM Three's Company (replaces Little House on the Prairie 2x)

Sundays
10:00AM Hogan's Heroes (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)
1:00AM-3:00AM Roseanne (replacs Beverly Hillbillies)

[clj2]

So let me get this straight -

-only show on hiatus will be Green Acres and 3rd Rock
-PRIME movies are gone
-Scrubs isn't coming

at least for now?

[Pavan]

I don't know how this will affect June now. This is in effect until end of May at the very least. See first post to see how the full schedule looks now for the rest of May.

[Brent88]

Roseanne is coming earlier than planned. It starts TONIGHT leading into an all-new The Cougar.

Here are the changes:

Weeknights, effective Wednesday, May 13, 2009
6:00PM & 6:30PM The Beverly Hillbillies (replaces Hogan's Heroes/Green Acres)
7:00PM & 7:30PM The Andy Griffith Show (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)
9:00PM & 9:30PM Roseanne Tues-Fri (replacing Andy Griffith)
12:00AM & 12:30AM Roseanne Mon-Wed, Fri (replacing 3rd Rock from the Sun)
1:00AM Roseanne Mon-Wed, Fri (replacing Cosby Show)
2:00AM Cosby Show Mon-Wed (replaces Sanford & Son)

Thursdays
10:00PM-1:00AM Married with Children (replaces M*A*S*H)
2:30AM-3:30AM Cosby Show (replaces Sanford & Son/The Jeffersons)

Fridays
9:00PM-2:30AM Roseanne (replaces Andy Griffith Show 2x, TV Land PRIME Movie, 3rd Rock from the Sun, The Cosby Show 2x, Sanford & Son)
2:30AM-3:30AM Cosby Show (replaces Sanford & Son/The Jeffersons)
3:30AM Sanford & Son (replaces The Jeffersons)
4:00AM The Jeffersons (replaces Good Times)

Saturdays
7:00PM-8:00PM Andy Griffith Show (replaces Leave it to Beaver)
11:00PM-1:00AM Cosby Show (replaces MASH)
1:00AM-4:00AM Roseanne (replaces Three's Company)
4:00AM-6:00AM Three's Company (replaces Little House on the Prairie 2x)

Sundays
10:00AM Hogan's Heroes (replaces Beverly Hillbillies)
1:00AM-3:00AM Roseanne (replacs Beverly Hillbillies)

WTF, I've heard of last-minute changes but this is beyond ridiculous. What a mess. 5 1/2 hours of Roseanne on Friday Nights? :eek: I can see right now trying to make sense of TV Land's schedule is a lost cause. What Roseanne episodes are airing tonight?

[clj2]

OK, I see now. 3rd Rock and Acres are both gone for the rest of the month then....I think they'll probably keep this schedule if it works. Looks like the movies weren't doing that hot. At least Three's Company stays (LHOTP is on Hallmark anyway) and Hogan's Heroes gets an airing. I hope Scrubs stays off.

Will be interesting to see how Roseanne does since it's coming so quickly - had anyone even seen an ad for it? It will be a shock for the TAGS viewers tuning in and seeing Roseanne instead. Seems they could have waited until next week and given it a decent launch with some promotion, that would help ratings. It's obvious they need something to do well for them very badly. The schedule still hasn't been updated at TVLand.com.

Prime-time is a certified, grade A disaster. It is messier than ever. I can't make anything out of what they're doing from 8PM-2AM.

[TVFactFan]

WTF, I've heard of last-minute changes but this is beyond ridiculous. What a mess. 5 1/2 hours of Roseanne on Friday Nights? :eek: I can see right now trying to make sense of TV Land's schedule is a lost cause. What Roseanne episodes are airing tonight?


Nobody will be watching that sh*t especially on a Frday Night in May

[Pavan]

Roseanne "coming in June" ads started the night of the TV Land Awards. Though that was the last time I watched TV Land, lol.

I don't understand why they are launching it early and tonight even. The schedule change was made today and they are starting Roseanne tonight. Very drastic. I don't know what to make of it, but it seems like Roseanne, Married with Children and Cosby Show are the "PRIME" shows now. Andy Griffith is on Mondays, but they need to stop airing that in PRIME on Monday nights...7pm-12am it is airing there. They need to make it more easier to follow, like this on weeknights:

9-10PM/12-1AM Roseanne
10-11PM/1-2AM Married...with Children
11PM-12AM/2-3AM Cosby Show


ALSO, I hear that "off the clock" times are starting again. Especially after 6pm. So be on the look out.

[TVFactFan]

Roseanne "coming in June" ads started the night of the TV Land Awards. Though that was the last time I watched TV Land, lol.

I don't understand why they are launching it early and tonight even. The schedule change was made today and they are starting Roseanne tonight. Very drastic. I don't know what to make of it, but it seems like Roseanne, Married with Children and Cosby Show are the "PRIME" shows now. Andy Griffith is on Mondays, but they need to stop airing that in PRIME on Monday nights...7pm-12am it is airing there. They need to make it more easier to follow, like this on weeknights:

9-10PM/12-1AM Roseanne
10-11PM/1-2AM Married...with Children
11PM-12AM/2-3AM Cosby Show


ALSO, I hear that "off the clock" times are starting again. Especially after 6pm. So be on the look out.


Well I feel a little better now that MWC and the Cosby Show is AFTER Roseanne. So thats pretty good.

[Pavan]

That's my thoughts, not the schedule. The schedule is on the first post of this thread. Married...with Children is only Thursdays.

[TVFactFan]

That's my thoughts, not the schedule. The schedule is on the first post of this thread. Married...with Children is only Thursdays.


Thanks for almost making me feel better-lol

[clj2]

Roseanne "coming in June" ads started the night of the TV Land Awards. Though that was the last time I watched TV Land, lol.

I don't understand why they are launching it early and tonight even. The schedule change was made today and they are starting Roseanne tonight. Very drastic. I don't know what to make of it, but it seems like Roseanne, Married with Children and Cosby Show are the "PRIME" shows now. Andy Griffith is on Mondays, but they need to stop airing that in PRIME on Monday nights...7pm-12am it is airing there. They need to make it more easier to follow, like this on weeknights:

9-10PM/12-1AM Roseanne
10-11PM/1-2AM Married...with Children
11PM-12AM/2-3AM Cosby Show


ALSO, I hear that "off the clock" times are starting again. Especially after 6pm. So be on the look out.

I have watched it off and on, even TAGS in PRIME at night and have seen no mention whatsoever of Roseanne. Everything is Cougar.

How do they expect to get viewers with such an abrupt change? This network is going off a cliff.

[tvparadise]

Not off the clock again!!! That is no way to watch TV! I'm glad that's just at night as Andy Griffith is really all I watch on TV Land at night (and I don't really watch it too much). I am however excited about the Married with Children block for Thursdays...it's much more of an after dark show to me...can't really get into it as well in the AM on Spike.

I had a feeling Hogan/Green Acres at 6pm would not make it thru May.

I think Roseanne will be a hit for TV Land. I think Home Improvement and Friends will work well for TV Land too, but I think The Nanny and That 70's Show are better suited for Nick at Nite.

All I really watch on this channel anymore is All in the Family at 9a and Beaver/The Brady Bunch on the weekends. So as long as they leave those alone. I like Good Times too but I prefer the times on TV One and I have Three's Company on DVD.

[TVFactFan]

Not off the clock again!!! That is no way to watch TV! I'm glad that's just at night as Andy Griffith is really all I watch on TV Land at night (and I don't really watch it too much). I am however excited about the Married with Children block for Thursdays...it's much more of an after dark show to me...can't really get into it as well in the AM on Spike.

I had a feeling Hogan/Green Acres at 6pm would not make it thru May.

I think Roseanne will be a hit for TV Land. I think Home Improvement and Friends will work well for TV Land too, but I think The Nanny and That 70's Show are better suited for Nick at Nite.

All I really watch on this channel anymore is All in the Family at 9a and Beaver/The Brady Bunch on the weekends. So as long as they leave those alone. I like Good Times too but I prefer the times on TV One and I have Three's Company on DVD.


Yeah hopefully MWC can continue to do well so it can get multiple airings

[Brent88]

What is the point of being off the clock anyway? I remember it from 2006 when The Jeffersons started and it was a huge pain, but it's been so long I can't remember when exactly the shows start when that is the case? I notice the schedule on tvland.com has 12:30am missing most nights.

[TVFactFan]

What is the point of being off the clock anyway? I remember it from 2006 when The Jeffersons started and it was a huge pain, but it's been so long I can't remember when exactly the shows start when that is the case? I notice the schedule on tvland.com has 12:30am missing most nights.


Off the clock is considered the paid programming?

[clj2]

What is the point of being off the clock anyway? I remember it from 2006 when The Jeffersons started and it was a huge pain, but it's been so long I can't remember when exactly the shows start when that is the case? I notice the schedule on tvland.com has 12:30am missing most nights.

For more commercials. Each episode runs 35 minutes instead of the typical 30. Now they have off the clock AND paid programming. TheLink can't tell us they aren't hurting.

It went something like this: 11:00PM, 11:35PM, 12:10AM, 12:45AM, 1:20AM, 1:55AM, etc.

[Brent88]

For more commercials. Each episode runs 35 minutes instead of the typical 30. Now they have off the clock AND paid programming. TheLink can't tell us they aren't hurting.

It went something like this: 11:00PM, 11:35PM, 12:10AM, 12:45AM, 1:20AM, 1:55AM, etc.

Paid Programming? LOL, epic fail. :lol:

and yeah that was kind of how I remembered it but wanted to make sure.

Good thing about Roseanne, they didn't cut out the end credits or put weird commercial breaks in so far, so I'm happy. Just wish they wouldn't have started the show suddenly like this.

[clj2]

I wouldn't get too excited about the closing credits lol....they probably haven't had time to fix the little thing on the bottom left corner for each episode yet (I'm not familiar with how Roseanne goes off, though). What a way to launch a show, though (Roseanne)....no promotion then bam, it's airing all the time at night almost with no introduction.

And according to the schedule grid, they are going off the clock again as the 12:30am is missing. Wonder when it starts/stops each night?

For those interested, here are the Roseanne/MWC episodes airing. They sure are skipping Roseanne for it to be a new series. These grids make it easier to understand:

http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=101 - this week

http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=102 - next week

[Brent88]

I wouldn't get too excited about the closing credits lol....they probably haven't had time to fix the little thing on the bottom left corner for each episode yet (I'm not familiar with how Roseanne goes off, though). What a way to launch a show, though (Roseanne)....no promotion then bam, it's airing all the time at night almost with no introduction.

And according to the schedule grid, they are going off the clock again as the 12:30am is missing. Wonder when it starts/stops each night?

For those interested, here are the Roseanne/MWC episodes airing. They sure are skipping Roseanne for it to be a new series. These grids make it easier to understand:

http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=101 - this week

http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=102 - next week

Yes, and it's lame. I don't get it. The original plan, the marathon launch was of course random episodes but then after that they were going in order, covering all episodes that didn't air from the marathon. The early episodes it's not so bad to skip around but the later episodes it's a big problem.

And about the credits... I was wondering that too. Roseanne has HUGE scenes over the credits most of the time though, many times lasting several minutes. I really don't think they could cut it since the episodes are probably already cut down to 21 minutes for syndication(with The Jeffersons/Andy Griffith it was generic credits every episode lasting no more than probably 30 seconds), but this is TV Land. Anything's possible, lol.

[Pavan]

Notice starting next week BH is just "once" in the 6pm hour. This is a disaster.

[nickandmore]

Something had to have been doing very bad for them to make this drastic last minute change (and very last minute it was). I will watch all the Roseanne I can! :)

I know many have most likely said this (and I haven't been reading all the TV Land posts on SO anymore, just the schedules) - but TV Land is a very mixed up network. They don't seem to know who they are targeting in the ratings. They say "boomers" but the programming is all over the place. From Andy to Roseanne to their originals (which I do not care for).

It seems now that all the Viacom channels are on the "crazy TV schedule" plan. Nickelodeon, MTV, CMT, TV Land, Spike, and so on do not have a constant schedule -- things are different every single day.

[clj2]

Notice starting next week BH is just "once" in the 6pm hour. This is a disaster.

What the heck? Does that mean they will stretch Hillbillies from 24 minutes to a whole hour? My Dish on-air guide says 3rd Rock is currently airing and it's Roseanne. This is a circus!

What's with TV Land? WGN, Hallmark, TBS, USA, Nick @ Nite, etc seem to function properly and keep a schedule....what's their problem? I don't get why they've become so mis-managed lately...actually, in the last 3-4 years.

[Pavan]

Well you can assume Bonanza will run into the 6pm hour and BH will just get one episode in that hour. The timing is going to be a mess. I think it starts tomorrow during Married with Children.

[clj2]

So we will be off the clock in the afternoons as well? Notice we also will just get 2 Sanford and Sons a day now. They are botching this whole thing up.
Just watch. They'll change again in a week. What a horrid way to launch Roseanne.

This network has got to be hurting to air 5 extra minutes of commercials in each show and have 3 hours of paid programming each morning in addition.

[clj2]

Why are they skipping Roseanne episodes so much? Are they showing the best ones this week or something, like a quick/silent launch? I still have seen no promotion for it...looking at TV Land on-air or on-line, you wouldn't know it's even airing.

Another thought - maybe I'm alone here, but I'm surprised at how long 3rd Rock lasted at a somewhat decent timeslot. I thought Scrubs would out-last it.

[JulieSomoski]

It's idiotic - and to add, TV Land is off the clock once again. I can't stand that. They are in some serious trouble.

I'm thinking Roseanne is to help out The Cougar a bit. Clearly this is just another TV Land reality show to bomb. How can Roseanne possibly do well, though, with no promotion????

[TVFactFan]

It's idiotic - and to add, TV Land is off the clock once again. I can't stand that. They are in some serious trouble.

I'm thinking Roseanne is to help out The Cougar a bit. Clearly this is just another TV Land reality show to bomb. How can Roseanne possibly do well, though, with no promotion????


What is this TV Land off the Clock thing I keep hearing about ?

[Pavan]

Off the clock is when shows start on odd times. For example, 6pm show starts 6:16pm, etc.

[TVFactFan]

Off the clock is when shows start on odd times. For example, 6pm show starts 6:16pm, etc.


Well I haven't noticed that too much after 1am must be a a before 12am thing

[Pavan]

Because it starts today! You'll notice it during Married with Children tonight.

[TVFactFan]

Because it starts today! You'll notice it during Married with Children tonight.

So I guess that means the Cosby Show comes on at 2:46am tinight

[clj2]

It's idiotic - and to add, TV Land is off the clock once again. I can't stand that. They are in some serious trouble.

I'm thinking Roseanne is to help out The Cougar a bit. Clearly this is just another TV Land reality show to bomb. How can Roseanne possibly do well, though, with no promotion????
I was thinking the same thing - how can the show air on such quick notice with no promotion/launch (I have seen NONE), skipping episodes, and on-screen guides aren't even updated? And the schedule changes and now off the clock are even worse. No show can succeed like that. As we've said many times, they're desperate for something to work for them.

Off the clock, as I posted earlier is probably going to go like this, example:

9:00PM
9:35PM
10:10PM
10:45PM
11:20PM
11:55PM
12:30AM
1:05AM
1:40AM

etc etc etc...

[JulieSomoski]

I was thinking the same thing - how can the show air on such quick notice with no promotion/launch (I have seen NONE), skipping episodes, and on-screen guides aren't even updated? And the schedule changes and now off the clock are even worse. No show can succeed like that. As we've said many times, they're desperate for something to work for them.

Off the clock, as I posted earlier is probably going to go like this, example:

9:00PM
9:35PM
10:10PM
10:45PM
11:20PM
11:55PM
12:30AM
1:05AM
1:40AM

etc etc etc...

It's just another reason to add to the list of "why I dislike TV Land."

That would actually not be bad for off the clock. Unfortunately, the shows are always starting at odd times. Each show seems to run somewhere around 33 minutes at first, and then switches to 37 minutes later in the night. I remember that from the last time they were off the clock. For example, the 10:45 airing would start at like 10:42, which makes no sense to me. How can someone possibly get into a show when it starts at 10:42?

[Scoobiedoo30]

Off The Clock is this going to be every night I don't mine TV Land Starting there show's off the clock because I already start my show off the clock anyway.

[Brent88]

I was thinking the same thing - how can the show air on such quick notice with no promotion/launch (I have seen NONE), skipping episodes, and on-screen guides aren't even updated? And the schedule changes and now off the clock are even worse. No show can succeed like that. As we've said many times, they're desperate for something to work for them.

Off the clock, as I posted earlier is probably going to go like this, example:

9:00PM
9:35PM
10:10PM
10:45PM
11:20PM
11:55PM
12:30AM
1:05AM
1:40AM

etc etc etc...

It looks like to me off the clock ends with the 12:30am ET show because there's not another half-hour missing on the grids, so from 1am on the shows should be on time. This is how I remember the original off the clock as well.

But it's still dumb.

[Scoobiedoo30]

If I remember I think The Over Night show's are also off the clock.

[clj2]

I won't be watching MWC or Roseanne, but it'd be appreciated if anyone can report back as to when off the clock starts/ends!

I personally think it'll run until paid programming, but that's JMO.

[Brent88]

Both of Roseanne's episodes have started on time. Must start with MWC.

[Scoobiedoo30]

Lewt see what Pavan say's when off the clock will start

[clj2]

Off the clock didn't go into effect until the MWC marathon tonight. I'll be checking at times to see

[Scoobiedoo30]

Will TV Land be going off the clock every night

[clj2]

It's 11:03PM and the 2nd MWC is still airing. Disaster.

Yes it will be every night. I forgot that they weren't always on the :10s or :5s, that was always approximately.


UPDATE: The 2nd MWC just went off at 11:06PM...guess the next one will go off around 11:41PM.

[Brent88]

I think it's only Monday-Friday they are off the clock. The weekends look normal.

But what a disaster indeed.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I think TV Land w2as off the clock on the weekends the last time the network aired there programming off the clock.

[clj2]

I'm interested in seeing when the off-the-clock afternoons will be. I'm guessing it will start with the westerns and go in to the middle of the night? All I keep seeing is commercials. It's taking them forever to get through one episode, they're still in the 12:00AM MWC episode at 12:38AM. There is no way they are going to get these shows to perform well airing them like this.

[Brent88]

Cosby Show started right at 3am... and that seems to be when TV Land Prime ends(seriously? It runs til 3am?), so I guess the rest of the night will be on time(also Cosby has original credits air though it's promo'ed over like N@N)

What a mess. The TV listings STILL are wrong... they really should have waited til Monday to do this.

and the off the clock crap is well... crap and very annoying.

[SpenceOlchin]

My freaking guide is still screwed up for TV Land. How are people supposed to find out about these changes, if they don't have/use the internet?

[Pavan]

This week off the clock is for sure between 10pm-3am. But next week it will be worse since Hillbillies is only listed once in the 6pm hour. So maybe 3pm-3am? We'll see--or you all will see, since I'm not watching, lol.

[clj2]

Cosby Show started right at 3am... and that seems to be when TV Land Prime ends(seriously? It runs til 3am?), so I guess the rest of the night will be on time(also Cosby has original credits air though it's promo'ed over like N@N)

What a mess. The TV listings STILL are wrong... they really should have waited til Monday to do this.

and the off the clock crap is well... crap and very annoying.

MWC was the worst off the clock I've ever seen. I don't remember exactly, but I think Roseanne started a little after 1:30 (I think it was around 1:35?) so they must have really been full of commercials in those two Roseannes to stretch two episodes into 90 minutes! I'm thinking off-the-clock will probably be something like 6PM-3AM next week. I don't see how those westerns can run off the clock....we'd still be watching them at 8pm.

My Dish Guide still isn't updated.

[Scoobiedoo30]

will TV Land be off The Clock on WeekendsThe only time TV may stay on the clock is on Wednesday Night's

[clj2]

This week off the clock is for sure between 10pm-3am. But next week it will be worse since Hillbillies is only listed once in the 6pm hour. So maybe 3pm-3am? We'll see--or you all will see, since I'm not watching, lol.LOL - all I ever watch is Hogan's Heroes and Andy Griffith, but not anymore...
I guess if a 30 minute show is "supposed" to run 35, a 60 would run 70 minutes?

3pm Gunsmoke
4:10pm Bonanza
5:20pm Bonanza
6:30pm Hillbillies

If off the clock started at 3pm and it ran that way, that would make Hillbillies start at 6:30pm even, putting it back on the clock temporarily which is why it's listed as a whole hour? I don't know, lol....but I'm sure we'll only get one Hillbillies episode in that hour, somewhere around 6:30.

And I think weekends were off the clock

[Brent88]

MWC was the worst off the clock I've ever seen. I don't remember exactly, but I think Roseanne started a little after 1:30 (I think it was around 1:35?) so they must have really been full of commercials in those two Roseannes to stretch two episodes into 90 minutes! I'm thinking off-the-clock will probably be something like 6PM-3AM next week. I don't see how those westerns can run off the clock....we'd still be watching them at 8pm.

My Dish Guide still isn't updated.

Last night every show between 10-3 ran about 33-34 minutes, so it went down something like this

10:00
10:34
11:08
12:12
12:46
1:20
1:54
2:27
3:00(on the clock again)

Roughly... I wasn't watching the whole time but that's how Roseanne was after MWC. I guess we can assume this will be the way it is every night, and I think primetime on weekends is on the clock. There's not a half-hour missing like on weeknights.

It's so dumb, I used to think N@N was dumb but at least they have a steady schedule that doesn't change at the last minute and don't do things like this.

[TVFactFan]

Well I guess it's safe to say that TIVO is ELMINATED from trying to record things on TV Land

[Pavan]

I only saw a couple of seconds of TV Land last night. Too busy watching the outstanding Grey's Anatomy season finale (after catching my breath with the just-as-good Lost finale the night before) and then the NBA playoffs.

[TVFactFan]

I only saw a couple of seconds of TV Land last night. Too busy watching the outstanding Grey's Anatomy season finale (after catching my breath with the just-as-good Lost finale the night before) and then the NBA playoffs.


That's why I could only see the last episode of MWC at 1am because from 10pm-1am I was wrapped up in the game

[clj2]

That makes sense Brent. Off the clock from 3PM-3AM will be a joke. I'm trying to picture it in my head but I can't. They are a total mess. None of this is helping Roseanne, or even MWC.

BTW: How are they going to promote the MWC Thursdays? They were promoting it 10pm Thursdays but we all know it won't start at 10. How can they promote Roseanne either....when it won't have a set time?

[clj2]

I don't have cable tonight to see....is it off-the-clock yet with Roseanne?

[Brent88]

I don't have cable tonight to see....is it off-the-clock yet with Roseanne?

No, the 10pm episode started on time. I'm guessing this will start it though(since it started at 10 last night with MWC). It's very annoying to say the least that it happens at all, but to happen for some episodes and not others is even more of a pain.

It's DEFINITELY starting with this episode. A 5-minute commercial break to open the show. How lovely.

[clj2]

No, the 10pm episode started on time. I'm guessing this will start it though(since it started at 10 last night with MWC). It's very annoying to say the least that it happens at all, but to happen for some episodes and not others is even more of a pain.

It's DEFINITELY starting with this episode. A 5-minute commercial break to open the show. How lovely.Ha. Thankfully I don't watch anything in the afternoon since afternoons-late nights start going off the clock next week. There is no way they can garner ratings if they are going to air shows in this method. I think tonight is their real test for Roseanne (and maybe even PRIME) but will probably be a disappointment in the ratings and on-air butwith this scheduling method, then factor in the lack of promotion what do they expect? My Dish Network guide is still not updated! It was for MWC but the episode airing was never the one listed due to the time shifting.

And WTF is with the Roseanne episodes being skipped? It's not like the contract has been used a lot. :rolleyes:

[Brent88]

This episode of Roseanne started at 12:12am ET. How freaking annoying.

and I don't get the skipped episodes either... it sucks. They were going to go in order in June after the marathon, no clue what happened to that. Why is it different now?

[Pavan]

I think they are calling this a Roseanne "preview." Official launch is June 5-12 still, lol.

[Brent88]

I think they are calling this a Roseanne "preview." Official launch is June 5-12 still, lol.

:brent

WTF... except they are airing some episodes from the marathon in this cycle(while others are nowhere to be found either now or in the marathon)

TV Land is a freaking joke.

[clj2]

I think they are calling this a Roseanne "preview." Official launch is June 5-12 still, lol.LOL!! Preview is a few nights or maybe one or two episodes a night, not like this. They have lost it. Here is what TheLink says about off-the-clock, which makes it even more LOL:


There is no comment as to why the network is using off-the-clock programming. The official response is "We apologize if your local listings do not reflect our current show start times. We are working to update them as soon as possible."

[SpenceOlchin]

My guide listings were finally updated this morning. Although, the off the clock programming is sure to screw things up. Good thing I rarely DVR anything off of this network.

TV Land is :crazy:

[clj2]

My guide is finally updated, but not with the off-the-clock times like it was in '06. They at least tried to have it on the :05s and :10s.

Does anybody want to make bets on how long this "schedule" will last? I bet 2-3 weeks. They'll say the shows didn't do that great....but it won't be the shows' fault - it'll be their hap-hazard scheduling, off-the-clock programming, and lack of promotion. I'm betting afternoons will be altered, and Andy will return to 8-10PM...but God knows we need more of that.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: 10pm-4am is a disaster and these Andy/M*A*S*H marathons on the weekends are confusing.

[Brent88]

I don't get the appeal of Andy Griffith, it bores me to DEATH! It's way overplayed(it also airs on a local affiliate here). The other big problem besides being off the clock is the erratic schedule, for instance Monday has Andy Griffith at 9 but Tuesday-Friday has Roseanne, and don't even get me started on after 10pm with a different show each night. They need consistency. It's no wonder they are struggling. Until they fix those two things it doesn't matter what show is where, they will continue to suffer.

This schedule would be more consistent although the stupid Cougar crap still presents a problem(why does it air three times on Wednesday anyway? No wonder it has poor ratings).

Weeknights(no off the clock!)

7-9 Andy Griffith
9-11 Roseanne(9-10 on Wednesday with Cougar at 10)
11-12 MWC
12-1 Roseanne
1-3 Cosby Show

Sad how few shows that is, and the weekends are a bigger disaster.

My guide is finally updated, but not with the off-the-clock times like it was in '06. They at least tried to have it on the :05s and :10s

Does anybody want to make bets on how long this "schedule" will last? I bet 2-3 weeks. They'll say the shows didn't do that great....but it won't be the shows' fault - it'll be their hap-hazard scheduling, off-the-clock programming, and lack of promotion. I'm betting afternoons will be altered, and Andy will return to 8-10PM...but God knows we need more of that.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: 10pm-4am is a disaster and these Andy/M*A*S*H marathons on the weekends are confusing.

[clj2]

I don't get the appeal of Andy Griffith, it bores me to DEATH! It's way overplayed(it also airs on a local affiliate here). The other big problem besides being off the clock is the erratic schedule, for instance Monday has Andy Griffith at 9 but Tuesday-Friday has Roseanne, and don't even get me started on after 10pm with a different show each night. They need consistency. It's no wonder they are struggling. Until they fix those two things it doesn't matter what show is where, they will continue to suffer.

I totally agree about TAGS - although I love the show, it's time for it to move out of primetime. Every time they try to move it from primetime it always comes back. Remember when they had that EM:HE/Cosby Show/Scrubs/3rd Rock when PRIME started and moved TAGS 5-7pm?? That didn't last long. There is no way anything is going to work with the current scheduling but they'll blame it on the newly added shows. I bet next month prime-time will be 8-10pm TAGS, 10-12am misc (Roseanne maybe 11-12 some nights). They will not be able to build a viewership base for Roseanne scheduling it like this. I'm not saying this because I don't care for the show, it's just logic. And these hap-hazard MWC marathons running off the clock are a joke.

The 11:30PM Cosby started on-time, BTW.

[Brent88]

I totally agree about TAGS - although I love the show, it's time for it to move out of primetime. Every time they try to move it from primetime it always comes back. Remember when they had that EM:HE/Cosby Show/Scrubs/3rd Rock when PRIME started and moved TAGS 5-7pm?? That didn't last long. There is no way anything is going to work with the current scheduling but they'll blame it on the newly added shows. I bet next month prime-time will be 8-10pm TAGS, 10-12am misc (Roseanne maybe 11-12 some nights). They will not be able to build a viewership base for Roseanne scheduling it like this. I'm not saying this because I don't care for the show, it's just logic. And these hap-hazard MWC marathons running off the clock are a joke.

The 11:30PM Cosby started on-time, BTW.

Yep, as I suspected since no half-hour is missing on the schedule there is no off the clock on weekends(thank God). So it's only Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday(they don't do it Wednesday because of The Cougar). I hope they stick to the original June plan after Roseanne's original launch date and go back to on the clock(Cougar will be over by then), but straighten out the schedule a bit and don't have a different lineup each night.

Well looking at the week of the 25th, they go BACK to the beginning of Roseanne(2nd episode, still skip the pilot) after going all the way to Season 6 next weekend and air another week of random episodes, including a few that will air either this weekend or next week! :rolleyes: (2 that air in the block tonight repeat on the 29th) and are into Season 7 by the 31st, again just random episodes though. Blah.

[clj2]

I know most here hated them, but I think they need to go back to marathons from 12AM-4AM. That's what they did last time when they were off the clock. It was less confusing.

I can't for the life of me figure out why they are skipping Roseanne so. It certainly can't be airplays as they barely aired it after the N@N contract. This network is sinking.

[Brent88]

I know most here hated them, but I think they need to go back to marathons from 12AM-4AM. That's what they did last time when they were off the clock. It was less confusing.

I can't for the life of me figure out why they are skipping Roseanne so. It certainly can't be airplays as they barely aired it after the N@N contract. This network is sinking.

I don't get it either.

Here's my other complaint, the erratic commercials. The first episode at 1am had three(one where it wouldn't normally be), and the show ran exactly 30 minutes with them, this last one(which had a scene before the credits) had 2 and only ran 28. I don't get why it's so different. :rolleyes:

Hmmm... third episode which went straight to the theme song(no opening scene) looks like the 1st one again. Make up your mind.

[clj2]

TV Land's editing has gotten very bad this year. I bet both Cosby and Roseanne are cut differently/more than they were on N@N. They cut even more than ever.

Since I'm out of school and have nothing better to do tomorrow, I'm going to be watching around 3PM....I bet that's when they go off the clock. Bonanza should end around 4:15-4:20pm if so I'm thinking. Airing one Hillbillies will get them somewhat caught up for Andy then things will probably go crazy after 8PM.

[clj2]

4:11PM, second Bonanza is starting. :rolleyes: Here we go!

Any idea when this started today? I bet TAGS will still be going at 1AM!

[Scoobiedoo30]

I think The 3rd airing of Bonanza will air at 4:20 pm CT Time

[Brent88]

Now it makes sense...(well as much sense as something this stupid can)

3:00
4:10
5:20
6:30 Beverly Hillbillies(explains why only one episode airs)

Then Andy Griffith is on the clock from 7-10 with 10-3 is the usual 33-34 minutes for each show. :rolleyes:

Andy Griffith airs way too much on Mondays.

[clj2]

2nd Bonanza started at 5:18pm. Pavan, do you have any more details on the off-the-clock? Will 2 Hillbillies air and spill over in to the 7pm hour, or will they get back on track for prime-time (to go back off later on) by somehow just airing one so TAGS can start at 7 even?

[clj2]

Now it makes sense...(well as much sense as something this stupid can)

3:00
4:10
5:20
6:30 Beverly Hillbillies(explains why only one episode airs)

Then Andy Griffith is on the clock from 7-10 with 10-3 is the usual 33-34 minutes for each show. :rolleyes:

Andy Griffith airs way too much on Mondays.

Yep. Hillbillies started about 6:27 and ran for 33 minutes, then TAGS started airing on time at 7. They aren't dare going to let their beloved Andy Griffith air off the clock from 7-9.

[clj2]

I haven't really watched, unless to check the timing....Roseanne came on around 12:16AM? tonight, I don't remember lol. TAGS went well past 12AM.

And now PRIME once again ends at 12:16AM, or whenever what spills over goes off :crazy: Roseanne had the regular TV Land logo at the bottom.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I watcherd to and I saw that Roseanne came on at 11:16 pm CT Time

[SpenceOlchin]

Are the airings of Married With Children on SPIKE, on hiatus? Seems like they're airing a lot of CSI NY. I've checked my IPG, but the only Viacom network that seems to be airing Married With Children is TV Land. Yeah, I know its on TBS, but most days (except today) when they air it, its from 5/5:30am-7am. Too early.

[clj2]

I wonder how Roseanne is doing. It and Cosby (and even MWC) are such a mess who knows. That "11:30" Cosby show didn't finish until 12:17 last night.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I think that TV Land will be on the clock Tonight with The Couger airing Tonight

[clj2]

I think that TV Land will be on the clock Tonight with The Couger airing TonightYes, it will only be off the clock from 3PM-7PM (as usual) tonight.

We should get this, all starting "on the clock":
7-9PM Andy Griffith
9-10PM Roseanne
10PM Cougar (new)
11PM Cougar (encore of new :rolleyes: )
12AM-1AM Roseanne
1AM Cougar (encore of new)
2-3AM Sanford and Son

etc.

[Brent88]

I think the main reason for The Cougar's bad ratings(well besides the fact it's lame) is that it airs three times in three hours. What is the point? The repeat at 11 is especially stupid. They'd be better off airing another hour of Roseanne or MWC(which should be a regular show and not just on Thursday)

Wondering what they are doing June 1-4th, haven't been any updates yet. I'm assuming Roseanne's actual launch is still June 5th but it's going to be on the clock. :eek: :lol: I can't stand this off the clock crap and the fact they are skipping episodes so much. Thinking about taking a break til the launch marathon if the original schedule holds(with episodes in order after it).

Edit: Hmmmm, they made MAJOR changes to Roseanne's episodes that are airing this weekend into next week.

[Scoobiedoo30]

yes that what Happen last year when They had there reality show's on Wednesday Night's they would stay on The Clock.

[SpenceOlchin]

I believe the three airings of "The Cougar", has to do with TV Land wanting to air it at 10PM local time, in each time zone. They used to air it four times in a row.

[Scoobiedoo30]

then starting in June TV Land Reality Programming will move to Thursday's at 8:00 pm CT

[clj2]

I think the main reason for The Cougar's bad ratings(well besides the fact it's lame) is that it airs three times in three hours. What is the point? The repeat at 11 is especially stupid. They'd be better off airing another hour of Roseanne or MWC(which should be a regular show and not just on Thursday)

Wondering what they are doing June 1-4th, haven't been any updates yet. I'm assuming Roseanne's actual launch is still June 5th but it's going to be on the clock. :eek: :lol: I can't stand this off the clock crap and the fact they are skipping episodes so much. Thinking about taking a break til the launch marathon if the original schedule holds(with episodes in order after it).I haven't seen anything about the Roseanne marathon on-air (which is still 2 weeks away) so I sort of wonder what they'll do? The Roseanne launch itself should have been moved to this week, IMO. They're already airing her as much as they planned after the marathon so it would be odd to call it a launch. Right now, if I were planning to launch a show I'd start with a "soft launch" and maybe air it once a night until the marathon.

What kind of changes did they make to Roseanne's episodes?

[Brent88]

I haven't seen anything about the Roseanne marathon on-air (which is still 2 weeks away) so I sort of wonder what they'll do? The Roseanne launch itself should have been moved to this week, IMO. They're already airing her as much as they planned after the marathon so it would be odd to call it a launch. Right now, if I were planning to launch a show I'd start with a "soft launch" and maybe air it once a night until the marathon.

What kind of changes did they make to Roseanne's episodes?

It's still erratic but the episodes aren't all over the place anymore, makes a little more sense.

[clj2]

So is anybody still watching TV Land :lol: :crazy: ? This off-the-clock is so pathetic it's almost funny. The "11:30" MWC finally ended at 12:16AM, lol. I have never seen a more sloppy television network (well, maybe Ion)....

I'm starting to get curious about TV Land June. I have seen/heard nothing about a Roseanne launch on-air, so I wonder if it's still happening? I don't even see a Roseanne promo. Then again, it airs at such off the wall times on different days, how could you promote it? :crazy:

[TVFactFan]

I'm trying to figure out why the Roseanne Closing Credits are shown in FULL while all the shows are not? I bet if I ask the link on the TV Land Boards he will say-"I don't know?"

[Brent88]

So is anybody still watching TV Land :lol: :crazy: ? This off-the-clock is so pathetic it's almost funny. The "11:30" MWC finally ended at 12:16AM, lol. I have never seen a more sloppy television network (well, maybe Ion)....

I'm starting to get curious about TV Land June. I have seen/heard nothing about a Roseanne launch on-air, so I wonder if it's still happening? I don't even see a Roseanne promo. Then again, it airs at such off the wall times on different days, how could you promote it? :crazy:

I keep checking the read-only schedule board for updates but nothing yet. On Sunday the TV Land schedule grid will update out to June 6th so we will definitely know then what they are planning.

Solomon: Isn't Roseanne the only show with scenes as the credits roll? I know Cosby, MWC, Andy Griffith, Jeffersons etc. had generic credits. You can't remove those, they are classics, most of them are several minutes.

[Pavan]

As of now, the marathon for Roseanne is still on. And the schedule that is on now will continue in June. Just waiting for the updated grids to confirm.

[clj2]

As of now, the marathon for Roseanne is still on. And the schedule that is on now will continue in June. Just waiting for the updated grids to confirm.

So do you think off-the-clock will continue? I'm thinking until at least the end of the summer. I figured the current schedule would hold.

[Pavan]

Got the grids. See June thread for updated June info. Yes, off-the-clock continues. Roseanne launch is still on for June 5-12, 8pm-6am.

[TVFactFan]

I keep checking the read-only schedule board for updates but nothing yet. On Sunday the TV Land schedule grid will update out to June 6th so we will definitely know then what they are planning.

Solomon: Isn't Roseanne the only show with scenes as the credits roll? I know Cosby, MWC, Andy Griffith, Jeffersons etc. had generic credits. You can't remove those, they are classics, most of them are several minutes.


Yup, Roseanne is the only show were the closing is shown without interruption. Now Andy Griffith is no longer TV Land's number 1 show, it's Roseane according to the special treatment

[Brent88]

Yup, Roseanne is the only show were the closing is shown without interruption. Now Andy Griffith is no longer TV Land's number 1 show, it's Roseane according to the special treatment

It's not because of that! It's because Roseanne has very long scenes over the credits most of the time(sometimes running 3-4 MINUTES). You cannot cut those. Generic credits are cut(which last about 30 seconds), but Roseanne never had those at any point.

[TVFactFan]

It's not because of that! It's because Roseanne has very long scenes over the credits most of the time(sometimes running 3-4 MINUTES). You cannot cut those. Generic credits are cut(which last about 30 seconds), but Roseanne never had those at any point.


N@N doesn't seem to care about that when it comes to Family Matters. All of that shows closing credits are similar to Roseanne's nd are still crunched

[Brent88]

N@N doesn't seem to care about that when it comes to Family Matters. All of that shows closing credits are similar to Roseanne's nd are still crunched

That's true, but N@N didn't trim Roseanne's credits either, neither do they Home Improvement or George Lopez.

and there's a difference between what N@N does and what TV Land does. At least N@N keeps the credits intact(even if they promo over some of it though I agree it sucks)

[clj2]

Well it's 7:12PM and Bonanza is still rolling. There is only one TAGS listed in the 7PM hour so it's off the clock on weekends as well :rolleyes: This is going to be a circus tonight!

[Pavan]

TV Land has added a Bonanza marathon this weekend:

Saturday, May 30 from 9am-7pm and Sunday, May 31 from 6am-10pm. See first post for details.

[TVFactFan]

TV Land has added a Bonanza marathon this weekend:

Saturday, May 30 from 9am-7pm and Sunday, May 31 from 6am-10pm. See first post for details.


I don't think nobody on here is watching that marathon

[Buffyboy323]

I don't think nobody on here is watching that marathon
:lol:

My father will probably be watching. LOL!

[Brent88]

TV Land has added a Bonanza marathon this weekend:

Saturday, May 30 from 9am-7pm and Sunday, May 31 from 6am-10pm. See first post for details.

:barf::barf::barf:

[TVFactFan]

:barf::barf::barf:


BARF is right-lol

[tvparadise]

That is really uncool. No Beaver/less Bradys this Saturday. That is about my favorite part of TV Land these days outside of the Norman Lear weekday morning block. There is just something about good wholesome/cheesy (in the case of The Brady Bunch) shows for the weekend.

Not a western fan. Of course the westerns go great with shows like The Cougar and High School reunion. They should just alternate hours between Bonanza and Cougar (off the clock of course).

[TVFactFan]

The Cable TV Gods hate me for some reason

[JT]

Eh, I'm no HUGE fan of westerns (I don't hate them tho), but this is good, IMO. The simple fact that TVLand chooses to show a dusty old 60s western all. damn. day. long. means that they don't have any qualms with the older stuff as long as it gets the ratings.

[clj2]

:rolleyes:

Not so much the Bonanza marathon, but the rest of the network it's airing on. Roseanne and Bonanza and She's Got the Look/Cougar on the same channel. Where the heck is Beaver? It should be 5-6PM weekdays

[clj2]

I found some ratings info from last week, but it isn't specific enough to tell us how each program is doing, especially since each night is different. They were 26th in cable with an average of 709,000 viewers according to http://www.tvbythenumbers.com:

TNT 3,323 USA 2,822 ESPN 2,220 DSNY 2,028 FOXN 1,890 TBSC 1,531 NAN 1,420 FX 1,333 A&E 1,175 DISC 1,113 VS 1,091 HGTV 1,089 SCIF 1,042 TOON 1,033 HIST 1,014 SPK 885 AMC 878 LIFE 878 TRU 874 FAM 861 FOOD 847 HALL 824 CMDY 807 TLC 784 MSNB 747 TVLD 709 BET 691 MTV 676 CNN 651 BRAV 610

So in primetime, ratings averages have been:
5/17-5/24: 709,000
5/11-5/17: 729,000 (this is when they changed the schedule that Wednesday and added Roseanne, etc)
5/4-5/11: 778,000
4/27-5/3: 811,000
4/20-4/26: 821,000

this came from http://www.tvbythenumbers.com

[Brent88]

I found some ratings info from last week, but it isn't specific enough to tell us how each program is doing, especially since each night is different. They were 26th in cable with an average of 709,000 viewers according to http://www.tvbythenumbers.com:



So in primetime, ratings averages have been:
5/17-5/24: 709,000
5/11-5/17: 729,000 (this is when they changed the schedule that Wednesday and added Roseanne, etc)
5/4-5/11: 778,000
4/27-5/3: 811,000
4/20-4/26: 821,000

this came from http://www.tvbythenumbers.com

So it's gotten worse each week, and I can't help but notice the worst week was last week when off the clock was in full effect.

[clj2]

So it's gotten worse each week, and I can't help but notice the worst week was last week when off the clock was in full effect.I thought at least the addition of Roseanne would help make up for off-the-clock losses in ratings. Then again nobody knows whats on and when, so...
They also lost an hour of TAGS in prime-time, which is the lifeblood of it.

It's notable that daytime actually increased last week (547,000), and 3pm-7pm is off the clock.

[JulieSomoski]

I thought at least the addition of Roseanne would help make up for off-the-clock losses in ratings. Then again nobody knows whats on and when, so...
They also lost an hour of TAGS in prime-time, which is the lifeblood of it.

It's notable that daytime actually increased last week (547,000), and 3pm-7pm is off the clock.

I can see off the clock working in daytime. But in primetime, it just isn't going to work. Why would someone watch the network when for one, they don't know when a show will be airing, and two, they can watch something else?

[Scoobiedoo30]

Will they stay off the clock in June.

[Brent88]

Will they stay off the clock in June.
Yes... :rolleyes:

But the initial schedule for July is on the clock, so we'll see.

Didn't I see somewhere where The Cougar only was getting 300k viewers at first? If it's still like that then it is by far the weak link of primetime, not surprisingly.

[Scoobiedoo30]

the reason why I asked is Because my Guide is saying Green Acres at 5:00 pm and 5:30 pm CT Time and The Bevery Hillbillies at 6:00 pm and 6:30 pm CT Time

[clj2]

Somebody at the TV Land boards posted this:

BONANZA TVLD Mon 03:06P-04:11P 1175

wow, if that's true, I can't believe that Bonanza is getting 1,175,000 viewers on a Monday afternoon. I knew it was one of their higher rated (probably behind Andy, MASH, and maybe Hillbillies) but that's just too hard to take in.

[Brent88]

Somebody at the TV Land boards posted this:

BONANZA TVLD Mon 03:06P-04:11P 1175

wow, if that's true, I can't believe that Bonanza is getting 1,175,000 viewers on a Monday afternoon. I knew it was one of their higher rated (probably behind Andy, MASH, and maybe Hillbillies) but that's just too hard to take in.

That's sick. Who watches that show? :rolleyes: and I wonder how many cable networks get 1 million+ viewers on a weekday afternoon? Probably very very few.

No wonder it's getting a marathon this weekend. :barf:

If MASH is highly-rated, why does it air at 5am on Weeknights? It only (barely) airs in primetime on Sundays.

I'd love to know in detail what TV Land's ratings are.

[clj2]

I could believe those numbers. Westerns have always been huge for them.
MASH is like Sanford and Son....they don't want to air it in primetime because the demographics are too old I think. They always got very good ratings but they're apparently after the demos instead (which isn't working, apparently)

Most of the Bonanza audience on a Monday afternoon is probably the average retiree who has nowhere to go, nothing to do so the off-the-clock isn't a bother. And they have less competition in the afternoon too.

I know....I'd LOVE to see the inside details on the ratings.

[clj2]

Thought I'd follow up with the link to that - it IS valid. Bonanza was the network's most watched show last week! Others didn't sniff near what it did.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/27/nba-playoffs-wwe-raw-and-ncis-lead-cable/19437#more-19437

[Brent88]

Thought I'd follow up with the link to that - it IS valid. Bonanza was the network's most watched show last week! Others didn't sniff near what it did.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/27/nba-playoffs-wwe-raw-and-ncis-lead-cable/19437#more-19437

OK, now I'm dying to know how Roseanne especially did. I didn't know you could request shows and get ratings. I have like a dozen I want to know about. :lol:

[clj2]

OK, now I'm dying to know how Roseanne especially did. I didn't know you could request shows and get ratings. I have like a dozen I want to know about. :lol:
I know :lol: But numbers like that for Bonanza! WOW! I wonder how Roseanne is doing too, it's always interesting to see how a new show does, especially this one given that it's a newer show and launched at an odd time. With primetime not being huge in the ratings I wouldn't guess it's extrodinary but like you said, off-the-clock messes things up.

[JT]

Thought I'd follow up with the link to that - it IS valid. Bonanza was the network's most watched show last week! Others didn't sniff near what it did.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/27/nba-playoffs-wwe-raw-and-ncis-lead-cable/19437#more-19437
Hot damn! A Bonanza rerun got more viewers than a Greek rerun! That's amazing. Would anyone happen to know what episode of BNZ aired in that timeslot on that day?

[clj2]

Hot damn! A Bonanza rerun got more viewers than a Greek rerun! That's amazing. Would anyone happen to know what episode of BNZ aired in that timeslot on that day?It was episode #66. I guess it was a good one, LOL http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=103 ... BTW, are those Roseanne episodes all over the place, or what?

TheLink says off-the-clock has little effect on ratings, which is surprising to me. He is saying programming is likely causing the drop in ratings, including The Cougar.

[JT]

Thanks. That's just so odd that a random episode of Bonanza got over a million viewers and managed to make a blip on the cable ratings radar.

I take so much joy in knowing that The Cougar is a BOMB/FAILURE/HORRID/DISGRACE. Put that **** to bed.

[factsoflife]

god i wish people would get over Bonaza that show is so played out.

[Brent88]

It was episode #66. I guess it was a good one, LOL http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=103 ... BTW, are those Roseanne episodes all over the place, or what?

TheLink says off-the-clock has little effect on ratings, which is surprising to me. He is saying programming is likely causing the drop in ratings, including The Cougar.

Ugh, tell me about it.

Hey... I just noticed they've made HUGE schedule changes next week, MWC is on each night Monday-Thursday(they are starting with the pilot so it must be a regular show now, must have done well), Cosby is in primetime now, and the Roseanne launch is still on for Friday/Saturday with more episodes during the week(must also be doing well)

Monday

8-9 Cosby
9-10 Roseanne
10-1:30am MWC
1:30 MASH
2-3 Roseanne
3-4 Three's Company
4-5 Cosby
5-6 MASH

Tuesday

8-9 Cosby
9-12 Roseanne
12-1:30 MWC
1:30 MASH
2-3 Roseanne
3-4 Three's Company
4-5 Cosby
5-6 MASH

Wednesday

8-9 Cosby
9-10 Roseanne
10-11 Cougar
11-11:30 SGTL preview
11:30 Roseanne
12-1:30 MWC
1:30 MASH
2-3 Roseanne
3-4 Three's Company
4-5 Cosby
5-6 MASH

Thursday

8-9 Cosby
9-11 Back to School
11-12 Roseanne
12-1:30 MWC
1:30 MASH
2-3 Roseanne
3-4 Three's Company
4-5 Cosby
5-6 MASH

[clj2]

Hm.
Well actually MWC will just be 2 episodes back to back, not 3 as it looks (off the clock). Roseanne gets moved to 2-3AM so I wonder if it's not doing that great, with its second hour being moved 2 hours later? Even though it's keeping 9-10PM, seems if it was doing HUGE it would have kept 12AM.
This is more confusing than ever.
Middays/afternoons have altered as well, EM:HE is gone and LHOTP is back:

12-1PM Andy Griffith
1PM Beverly Hillbillies
1:30PM Gunsmoke
2:30PM Gunsmoke
3:30PM Bonanza
4:30PM Bonanza
5:30PM Little House on the Prairie
7PM-8PM Andy Griffith

Haven't they tried Cosby from 8-9 a few times before? That means no TAGS (their highest rated show) in primetime, so that will be interesting to see.

[Brent88]

I'm utterly confused as well, but the schedule is actually somewhat more stable now :eek: 10-12 is confusing(MWC on Monday, Roseanne on Tuesday, a movie on Thursday/hour of Roseanne) but the other timeslots are pretty much the same each night!!!!!! and finally Roseanne is truly on "Weeknights at 9". LOL

I'm really surprised about MWC being on every night(must have done very well) and Cosby replacing Andy Griffith

Couldn't help but notice the Cougar encores are gone... it only airs once on Wednesday instead of 3 times.

[clj2]

I know...it's still confusing though! And will be off the clock, of course.

Next weekend is all Andy Griffith, except for when Roseanne is airing.

[JulieSomoski]

God, more schedule changes? I'm so sick of this - why can't they keep a consistent schedule? The sad thing is, they've changed their schedule 3 or 4 times now and it hasn't even gone into effect yet. This is insane.

What's worse is those 1 million viewers watching Bonanza on a Monday afternoon. What are they thinking???-lol.

This new schedule is actually pretty good go. It's a lot more stable, and actually has nice variety. I just don't get why TV Land keeps changing the schedule so much. Now Cosby's back? MWC is a regular? What made them bring this on such a short amount of time? I don't get it.

[Brent88]

I know...it's still confusing though! And will be off the clock, of course.


LOL, of course. :rolleyes: But one step at a time.

Still it gets annoying that every few days it seems the schedule radically changes so much. I wonder if this will stay in effect after the Roseanne marathons and how Fridays/weekends will shake out.

Oh and they add MWC as a regular and show the episodes IN ORDER from the beginning? Yet they can't do it with Roseanne? Huh? Last night Episode 2 aired and by the end of this weekend an episode from Season 7 will air. :rolleyes: Tuesday Night an episode from Season 8 will air and then episodes from Season 1 Wednesday Night. I give up.

[TVFactFan]

Roseanne for 6 hours tonight, UGH!!!!!!!

[Brent88]

Roseanne for 6 hours tonight, UGH!!!!!!!

You think that's bad? Wait til next Friday... and the next 7 nights after that. :lol: 10 hours each night. :eek:

[TVFactFan]

You think that's bad? Wait til next Friday... and the next 7 nights after that. :lol: 10 hours each night. :eek:


I just don't know what I did to piss off the Cable TV gods off-lol

[clj2]

LOL, of course. :rolleyes: But one step at a time.

Still it gets annoying that every few days it seems the schedule radically changes so much. I wonder if this will stay in effect after the Roseanne marathons and how Fridays/weekends will shake out.

Oh and they add MWC as a regular and show the episodes IN ORDER from the beginning? Yet they can't do it with Roseanne? Huh? Last night Episode 2 aired and by the end of this weekend an episode from Season 7 will air. :rolleyes: Tuesday Night an episode from Season 8 will air and then episodes from Season 1 Wednesday Night. I give up.

I don't see Andy Griffith lasting out of primetime, it is still the king of the network. I bet it will be back from 8-9PM. It's a boomerang. I know this isn't as erratic, but still, the whole schedule seems more confusing.

I would bet this has to do with the way the ratings have slipped over the past month. That can't be ignored. I think they're doing this because they want PRIME to succeed very badly and it's not doing that great. If I were them, I'd do this (taking neatness and ratings in to account):

9:00AM All in the Family
9:30AM Sanford and Son
10:00AM Good Times
10:30AM The Jeffersons
11:00AM Hogan's Heroes
11:30AM Leave it to Beaver
12:00PM Green Acres
12:30PM The Beverly Hillbillies
1:00PM Gunsmoke
2:00PM Bonanza
3:00PM Bonanza
4:00PM-5:00PM Hogan's Heroes
5:00PM-6:00PM Leave it to Beaver
6:00PM-7:00PM The Beverly Hillbillies
7:00PM-8:00PM Andy Griffith
8:00PM-9:00PM M*A*S*H
9:00PM-10:00PM The Cosby Show [PRIME]
10:00PM-11:00PM Roseanne [PRIME]
11:00PM-12:00AM Married With Children [PRIME]
12:00AM-1:00AM Andy Griffith
1:00AM-2:00AM Sanford and Son
2:00AM-3:00AM M*A*S*H
3:00AM-4:00AM Three's Company
4:00AM-5:00AM The Jeffersons
5:00AM Green Acres
5:30AM Leave it to Beaver

OK, that keeps PRIME 9pm-12am and its shows contained, while airing high-rated shows around it. I would switch M*A*S*H and do it 7pm-8pm and Andy 8pm-9pm, but they can't from Hallmark's contract. I think this offers something for everyone, and outside of 9-12PM (which is PRIME and I included PRIME shows then) the network stays true to its original focus.

[JT]

I don't see how the PRIME shows stray away from TVLand's focus. They were never the "50s/60s/70s" channel, they were the "classic TV" channel, and I'm not fan of Cosby, but it's nearly 25 years old, and it's been over 17 years since it left the air. MWC and Roseanne aren't as old, but TVLand never shied away from airing more recent stuff (i.e. Hill Street Blues and St. Elsewhere).

I'm surprised to see LHOTP back in a good timeslot. No doubt that has something to do with Bonanza's success (Michael Landon's magical schlong of success, duh), and maybe they took note of how Hallmark pulled it but very quickly pulled it back. I love LHOTP to death, but I don't need it on TVLand. They could bring back The Waltons and put it back in LHOTP's old graveyard slot or maybe even (gasp!) try something new/similar there.

They're going the path of NAN, I think, and I don't necessarily mean show-wise, but scheduling wise. They keep certain shows around and stick to them, only occasionally adding something, and usually dropping that soon after. The evenings and late nights are almost all back-to-back airings, as well. I just miss the massive variety that they used to have. Bonanza and Gunsmoke are their only non-sitcoms, and that ticks me off to no end.

[tvparadise]

Interesting changes.

I like the idea of PRIME being made up of Cosby, Roseanne, and MWC. Much better than Scrubs/Extreme Makeover.

Cool to see Three's Company weekdays, but why waste airplays at 3am? Better just to encore Jeffersons/Good Times.

STOP changing the weekend schedules!!!

[clj2]

I don't see how the PRIME shows stray away from TVLand's focus. They were never the "50s/60s/70s" channel, they were the "classic TV" channel, and I'm not fan of Cosby, but it's nearly 25 years old, and it's been over 17 years since it left the air. MWC and Roseanne aren't as old, but TVLand never shied away from airing more recent stuff (i.e. Hill Street Blues and St. Elsewhere).

I'm surprised to see LHOTP back in a good timeslot. No doubt that has something to do with Bonanza's success (Michael Landon's magical schlong of success, duh), and maybe they took note of how Hallmark pulled it but very quickly pulled it back. I love LHOTP to death, but I don't need it on TVLand. They could bring back The Waltons and put it back in LHOTP's old graveyard slot or maybe even (gasp!) try something new/similar there.

They're going the path of NAN, I think, and I don't necessarily mean show-wise, but scheduling wise. They keep certain shows around and stick to them, only occasionally adding something, and usually dropping that soon after. The evenings and late nights are almost all back-to-back airings, as well. I just miss the massive variety that they used to have. Bonanza and Gunsmoke are their only non-sitcoms, and that ticks me off to no end.True. As far as PRIME is considered, I think THIS schedule is the real test for it. It is totally what they seemed to be wanting.

As for LHOTP, I won't be watching it on TV Land. Afternoons are off the clock for who knows how long (probably 1:30pm-7pm now) , why would I wait for it to start at 5:46 or something and sit through annoying Cougar/SGTL ads, more commercials, etc when I can just watch it less interrupted and more pleasantly on Hallmark. I love that channel -- they are always showing something I like, it seems.

They still have Star Trek barely, which isn't a sitcom.

[JT]

True. As far as PRIME is considered, I think THIS schedule is the real test for it. It is totally what they seemed to be wanting.

As for LHOTP, I won't be watching it on TV Land. Afternoons are off the clock for who knows how long (probably 1:30pm-7pm now) , why would I wait for it to start at 5:46 or something and sit through annoying Cougar/SGTL ads, more commercials, etc when I can just watch it less interrupted and more pleasantly on Hallmark. I love that channel -- they are always showing something I like, it seems.

They still have Star Trek barely, which isn't a sitcom.
Totally agree about Hallmark. I love all of their shows (sans MASH) and most of their movies are real good, too.

Wow, I totally forgot about ST. I thought that was long gone, as well as LHOTP. Next thing you'll tell me is that Addams Family and Flip Wilson still air early on Saturday mornings lol.

[Pavan]

The schedule is for weeks of June 1 and 8 only as of now. See the June thread for details. May is over, so no need to discuss it here, lol.