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Janice
02-12-2009, 01:44 PM
Octuplets' Mom Seeks Donations Online

Plus, Taxpayers May Have to Help Cover Her Costs

NEW YORK (Feb. 11) - A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Meanwhile, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.

It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.

"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.
Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story."

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Her Web site features pictures of the mother and each octuplet, and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.

On the Net: http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com

Chocoholic
02-12-2009, 03:35 PM
:rolleyes: Clearly, she knows how to play the system.

catlover79
02-12-2009, 03:38 PM
We all knew this was coming. What a leech. :mad:

sunshinefizzy
02-12-2009, 05:47 PM
I think these doinkheads from social services need to wake the frig up and tend to this situation. This is not cool.

Marvo301
02-12-2009, 06:00 PM
Last night on His show, Jay Leno suggested everyone donate birth control pills to her!

Zoneboy
02-12-2009, 06:01 PM
Having fourteen babies wasn't free
They were conceived without the birds and bees
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

All these kids give me a thrill
And you can help pay my bills
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, I wanna be free (that's what I want)
Whoa, a lot of money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, you owe me money (that's what I want)
Oh, now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want.

TJL
02-12-2009, 06:04 PM
So, I guess those book, movie and TV deals haven't rolled in like she thought they would.


;)

catsrule
02-12-2009, 07:00 PM
Last night on His show, Jay Leno suggested everyone donate birth control pills to her!:brent

dawsongirl
02-12-2009, 07:51 PM
ADHD is enough of a disability to warrant disability payments?????? WTF???


I agree with that radio guy...adopt these kids out.

catlover79
02-12-2009, 07:56 PM
Last night on His show, Jay Leno suggested everyone donate birth control pills to her!
:clap :clap :clap

catlover79
02-12-2009, 07:57 PM
Having fourteen babies wasn't free
They were conceived without the birds and bees
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

All these kids give me a thrill
And you can help pay my bills
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, I wanna be free (that's what I want)
Whoa, a lot of money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, you owe me money (that's what I want)
Oh, now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want.
:clap :lol: :rofl: :brent

browneyes106
02-13-2009, 01:01 AM
She is pandering online,

catlover79
02-13-2009, 01:11 AM
She is pandering online,
Look up "panhandling" and her picture will be right next to it!!

browneyes106
02-13-2009, 01:23 AM
Look up "panhandling" and her picture will be right next to it!!

LOL I know. Online pandering happens a lot. There have been cases of people getting donations online to pay off debts and other things.

catlover79
02-13-2009, 01:31 AM
LOL I know. Online pandering happens a lot. There have been cases of people getting donations online to pay off debts and other things.
I refused to watch that Dateline interview because I didn't want this woman to get more attention. My mom said I was wise and wished she'd done the same thing. :lol:

browneyes106
02-13-2009, 01:37 AM
I refused to watch that Dateline interview because I didn't want this woman to get more attention. My mom said I was wise and wished she'd done the same thing. :lol:

I admit I watched it out of curiousity to hear why she did what she did. I noticed on another site earlier that TMZ is posting online pics of what she looked like right before the octopulet delievery. I think it will be another week or two before the media attention on this woman dies down.

browneyes106
02-13-2009, 02:25 PM
I guess she started to use her donation money.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/12/octomom-womb-raider/

Purffin
02-13-2009, 10:20 PM
If she already has 1 child with autism and another with slight autism , why would she bring more into the world they could also be sick. she's just a crook with botox.
It also pisses me off that us hard working folks who actually have jobs can't even get a $1.00 in food stamps for our kids because we have jobs

dakert
02-13-2009, 10:23 PM
I couldnt agree more!!!!

catlover79
02-14-2009, 04:18 AM
If she already has 1 child with autism and another with slight autism , why would she bring more into the world they could also be sick. she's just a crook with botox.
It also pisses me off that us hard working folks who actually have jobs can't even get a $1.00 in food stamps for our kids because we have jobs
:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

Doodyville10019
02-15-2009, 12:08 AM
If she already has 1 child with autism and another with slight autism , why would she bring more into the world they could also be sick. she's just a crook with botox.
It also pisses me off that us hard working folks who actually have jobs can't even get a $1.00 in food stamps for our kids because we have jobs


I agree. I'm just trying to figure out why she even HAD additional kids? She's already got 6 or something like that? That alone would make me tear my hair out!

browneyes106
02-15-2009, 12:15 AM
If she already has 1 child with autism and another with slight autism , why would she bring more into the world they could also be sick. she's just a crook with botox.
It also pisses me off that us hard working folks who actually have jobs can't even get a $1.00 in food stamps for our kids because we have jobs

Good point you would think have two children with special needs would stop her from having more. A few years ago I worked with a woman who has a daughter with autism and she has one son. Her and her husband planned on having four children. But after her daugther was born they made the painful decision not to have other children. She said that often her and her husband thinking of adopting older special needs children. I agree with you on food stamps. I know many working people who struggle with a lot of expenses. Even a few dollars of food stamps for working parents could help a little.

Janice
02-17-2009, 04:34 AM
http://news.aol.com/article/octuplets-grandmother-puts-anger-aside/339387?icid=200100397x1219352146x1201269518

Octuplets' Grandma Puts Anger Aside

The grandmother and mother of the almost month-old octuplets have made peace with each other.

In an exclusive interview, the grandmother, Angela Suleman, told Early Show co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez the turning point was when she laid eyes on the eight newborns.

Angela's is a tale of an overworked, financially-taxed woman having to put her life on hold to care for her grandchildren, angry at her daughter's obsession with having so many kids, and resentful of the eight new babies -- until she met them.

Her daughter, Nadya, a single mother, had six kids already, all by in-vitro fertilization, when she had eight more embryos implanted.

"I was actually very upset that my daughter had gone and done this in-vitro," Angela told Rodriguez, "but, after I saw them, you know, I thought, 'My goodness, these are my grandchildren. They're so tiny and fragile. I'll have to be there for them, you know, like I was for the others." '
Angela says Nadya didn't tell her the about latest in-vitro procedure "because she knew I didn't want her to do it."

Chuckling, Angela said she didn't know about the new in-vitro until she "saw that it was successful." In other words -- until the pregnancy was visible. At that point, says Angela, "she admitted to it."

Angela readily conceded she felt overwhelmed helping to care for her daughter's first six children.

"Every day!" she laughed, agreeing with Rodriguez' characterization of her feelings as, "I can't do this."

for their care is quite a challenge: Angela says her "retirement check goes every month. It's just gone."

Just having six youngsters in the three bedroom house is "crowded," Angela observed, so, once the new eight babies come home from the hospital, "I'll have to do something to u know help her get another (house)."

She says her resentment is fast becoming a thing of the past: "I did (resent Nadya), but you know, you can resent your daughter for just so long, and then you see that she's trying so hard to take care of these children, and she's a good mother.

" ... She's a very good mother," Angela continued, "but then," she laughed, "she had a good example!"

Angela says, "There must be a reason, you know, why this happened, and that they're all healthy. That is a miracle, a total miracle."

Zoneboy
02-19-2009, 10:18 PM
Link (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/attorney-gloria.html)

Octuplets' mother gets a giant babysitting offer
5:00 PM | February 19, 2009

There appears no shortage of people offering guidance to the Whittier octuplets' mom.

Attorney Gloria Allred lobbed a huge offer to Nadya Suleman on Thursday: round-the-clock nursing care, physical therapy, occupational therapy and a home for the super-sized Whittier family.

Now all Suleman has to do is call and accept the help from Allred and Angels in Waiting, a nonprofit charity founded by Kaiser nurse Linda West Conforti.

"This is something where she can still be a mom," Conforti said. "We’re not trying to rip these children away. We’re trying to give her a support system."

So far, Suleman has not responded to the offer, which was issued last week through her former publicists, her now-defunct website and Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Bellfower, where the octuplets were born on Jan. 26, Conforti said.

Volunteer nurses would help care for the babies in eight-hour shifts, Conforti said. In all, she said it would probably take about 14 trained professionals to provide stability and care for the octuplets while also assisting Suleman with her other special-needs children.

Allred said she filed a complaint on Feb. 12 with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services requesting an investigation into whether Suleman’s 14 children might be endangered if left in her care and custody. Her complaint also asked that the children be temporarily removed from Suleman’s care if it is warranted.

Although Suleman has reportedly earned money from interviews with U.S. and British tabloids, it is unclear how the single mother plans to support the large family long-term. The small Whittier home she is sharing with her own mother is in pre-foreclosure. Suleman is also not employed, receiving about $490 a month in food stamps, with three of her children receiving federal supplement security income. Sources have said that Kaiser filed for Medi-Cal reimbursement for the octuplets.

The offer from Angels in Waiting would keep the family together without use of taxpayer funds, Allred said.

catlover79
02-20-2009, 08:53 AM
How can the grandmother's house be in foreclosure yet she can afford to pay an agent??? :confused: :rolleyes:

MrCleveland
02-20-2009, 09:28 AM
The See You Next Tuesday of the year goes to...that woman who had all those octuplets. (BTW-That word that I used is nasty, It should be refered to when men say it, means they will never see a naked lady, and it used to be known as 'fool'. And that's what that See You Next Tuesday is!)

Her See You Next Tuesday will be hurting for years!

Zoneboy
02-27-2009, 05:34 PM
Link (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/octuplet-mom-na.html)

Octuplets' mom Nadya Suleman has turned down an offer of a home and 24-hour pediatric nursing care, attorney Gloria Allred said this morning during an appearance on CBS' "The Early Show."

The nonprofit Angels in Waiting volunteer nurses "would have provided 24/7 care along with developmental specialists, early intervention professionals, wraparound services for -- and individualized care for -- all these babies," Allred said on the show.

"And I have to say that she did not accept our offer. And a home would have been provided. All 14 could have been kept together, the siblings as well. There would have been no burden on the taxpayers. Instead, now, it may be that the taxpayers are going to have to foot the bill for all of this."

Allred, who has also filed a complaint with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, had asked Suleman to respond by Thursday. Allred will be holding a news conference at 2 p.m.

Suleman's publicist could not be reached for comment.

Doodyville10019
02-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Link (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/octuplet-mom-na.html)

Octuplets' mom Nadya Suleman has turned down an offer of a home and 24-hour pediatric nursing care, attorney Gloria Allred said this morning during an appearance on CBS' "The Early Show."

The nonprofit Angels in Waiting volunteer nurses "would have provided 24/7 care along with developmental specialists, early intervention professionals, wraparound services for -- and individualized care for -- all these babies," Allred said on the show.

"And I have to say that she did not accept our offer. And a home would have been provided. All 14 could have been kept together, the siblings as well. There would have been no burden on the taxpayers. Instead, now, it may be that the taxpayers are going to have to foot the bill for all of this."

Allred, who has also filed a complaint with the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, had asked Suleman to respond by Thursday. Allred will be holding a news conference at 2 p.m.

Suleman's publicist could not be reached for comment.

Not only is this Suleman lady WEIRD, she is also DUMB!

catlover79
02-27-2009, 08:01 PM
Not only is this Suleman lady WEIRD, she is also DUMB!
Amen to that!!

Zoneboy
03-09-2009, 08:03 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/03/how-is-octuplet.html

Liza
03-09-2009, 09:09 PM
I feel sorry for people living in California (yes, that includes my buddy, Fleet) because she is totally depending on their money for her kids. That doctor who arranged for her to have all these children should be brought to answer some tough questions. Would you implant six embryos in a woman who already had six children she couldn't afford?

Neither would I.

Chocoholic
03-10-2009, 02:14 PM
I will certainly pray for the health of her children, but she will never get a penny from me.

ghostgyrrl
03-10-2009, 06:22 PM
If she can afford to have IVF that many times, she should be denied assistance. Personally it is not only irresponsible on her part, in my opinion, but her parents obviously this girl isn't mentally stable.

catlover79
03-10-2009, 08:18 PM
If she can afford to have IVF that many times, she should be denied assistance. Personally it is not only irresponsible on her part, in my opinion, but her parents obviously this girl isn't mentally stable.
AMEN TO THAT!! :clap

Sharop
03-10-2009, 08:30 PM
ADHD is enough of a disability to warrant disability payments?????? WTF???

What's wrong with that?

ADHD can be quite severe, I think it depends on how badly the person is affected. My boyfriend has ADHD and he gets money from the government because of it. Not a great deal; I think he gets something like two hundred pounds per month.

But in my opinion there's nothing wrong with giving disability payments to people who have these disorders, as long as you're not handing out enormous sums.