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TMC
09-03-2008, 02:26 AM
Which current major broadcast television network entertainment president is more incompetent? Here's some info on Ben Silverman's job performance at NBC:
NBC entertainment boss Ben Silverman could be in big trouble... (http://www.nypost.com/seven/07302008/gossip/pagesix/nbc_boss_fall_from_grace_122145.htm)
NBC's Ben Silverman: A goner? (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/major-nbc-shakeup-ahead-network-wants-to-ax-teri-weinberg-hopes-ben-silverman-quits/)

Likewise, here's some info or insight on Dawn Ostroff's performance over at the CW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_Os...External_links

70s show watcher
09-03-2008, 04:07 AM
given that he makes incredbily stupid statements like i dont care about viewership only about costs and also the fact that nbc has some of the worst programing on the air i have to go with ben silverman i do like the office and 30 rock but most of the shows that i watch on nbc are admitly very old snl er law and order but i have not seen one thing on nbc lately that is must see tv for me

JulieSomoski
09-03-2008, 03:34 PM
I voted for Ben Silverman - quite frankly, I don't think he knows how to run a network. He keeps renewing shows that are no where on the map with ratings. I mean, just look sat the Thursday night lineup. The only show capable of getting more than 8 million viewers is ER, and that's been around for what, 15 years now? Nearly all the shows he keeps renewing are shows that, IMO, are never going to find an audience.

Dawn Ostroff isn't responsible for the kind of network the CW is - sure, she seems to want to target only the teen and young women audience, but what other audience is going to watch that network? Gossip Girl is getting good ratings, and 90210 set record the network last night.

70s show watcher
09-04-2008, 01:01 AM
I voted for Ben Silverman - quite frankly, I don't think he knows how to run a network. He keeps renewing shows that are no where on the map with ratings. I mean, just look sat the Thursday night lineup. The only show capable of getting more than 8 million viewers is ER, and that's been around for what, 15 years now? Nearly all the shows he keeps renewing are shows that, IMO, are never going to find an audience.

Dawn Ostroff isn't responsible for the kind of network the CW is - sure, she seems to want to target only the teen and young women audience, but what other audience is going to watch that network? Gossip Girl is getting good ratings, and 90210 set record the network last night.ilike i said i like the office and 30 rock but for all the acclaim that they both get from critics i have to agree with you about the ratings quite frankly i dont think the ratings for ether show are going to go any higher than they are right now

James
09-04-2008, 01:30 AM
I voted Ben Silverman myself. First NBC promised the Parents Television Council (and the nation!) that they would tone down their content, but they didn't (e. g. "MILF Island" on 30 Rock). Who's worse at flip-flopping, NBC or John Kerry?

comedyfreak
09-04-2008, 05:50 AM
I voted Ben Silverman.

JulieSomoski
09-04-2008, 03:51 PM
ilike i said i like the office and 30 rock but for all the acclaim that they both get from critics i have to agree with you about the ratings quite frankly i dont think the ratings for ether show are going to go any higher than they are right now

The Office is NBC's only comedy to post OKAY numbers - it does around 7-8 million on average, which still isn't great, but it's the best they've got. I don't understand at all why any of the sitcoms keep staying around. Mayb ethey'd think of moving all 4 to a different slot - Thursdays just aren't Must See TV anymore like they want it to be.

TMC
09-05-2008, 08:22 PM
Toxic Beverly Hills (http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/entertainmentcolumn/2008/col20080905.asp)

CW executives might argue that the audience approves of this show. Publicists crowed that the “90210" debut set “network records,” but this is like saying someone achieved their personal-best 100-yard-dash time of three minutes. It brought in 4.9 million viewers. But the cable network TNT easily topped that with their new legal drama “Raising the Bar,” which opened with 7.7 million viewers. It’s also unclear if the show’s ratings will remain at the debut’s level now that the curious viewer caught a sleazy sample.

The CW executives failed to screen the show’s debut for TV critics, probably because they knew it was going to be mocked as sub-standard. More importantly, they refused to screen the show for CW affiliates, this despite promises they’ve made to regulators in Washington that program managers out in the community could have some say in their programming. How many affiliates would have flat-out refused to run this trash? They also refused to screen it for advertisers, but they caved half-way and eventually showed it to advertising agencies.

The flailing, failing CW network is in dire straits. Their overall ratings stink. Their CW-affiliated stations are beginning to drop the “CW” out of their station logos – and that now includes even Chicago powerhouse WGN, their signature affiliate. This sleaze-selling strategy will result only in the latest in a line of CW flops and fiascoes.