Do you believe in Karma?

[Janice]

What goes around, comes around.

Do you buy into that?

[PrettyinPink55]

Absolutely.

[Stuck In The '70's]

I do.

[Hollow]

sort of. it's just kind of biased at times. :grr:

[Shine]

No I don't.

[Courtnee]

Yep. You get what you give, eventually.

[Shine]

Yep. You get what you give, eventually.

Wasn't that a song? :lol: ;)

[Stuck In The '70's]

Yep. You get what you give, eventually.
Everything that goes around comes around. :lol:

[Brian Damage]

I believe in it.

[EmoJoe]

ehhh....to an extent i guess.

[Janice]

I used to believe in Karma, but now I'm not so sure. My entire life, I was extremely generous and thoughtful to everyone. I don't smoke, drink, do drugs, and have always eaten more healthy than not. Despite this. I was rewarding with losing just about my entire family and got health problems while only in my 40s. Why is it "coming around" to me? Kids with cancer, the Holocaust victims, etc, etc, etc. Why did it come around to them? None of it makes any sense to me.

[Brian Damage]

I used to believe in Karma, but now I'm not so sure. My entire life, I was extremely generous and thoughtful to everyone. I don't smoke, drink, do drugs, and have always eaten more healthy than not. Despite this. I was rewarding with losing just about my entire family and got health problems while only in my 40s. Why is it "coming around" to me? Kids with cancer, the Holocaust victims, etc, etc, etc. Why did it come around to them? None of it makes any sense to me.


Janice, you musn't think of the negative things. I know it is hard to do, but the things that happened in your life isn't "Karma." Have you experienced a lot of hardships in your life? Yes, but look at what you do have. A wonderful and loving husband and friends who truly care about you.

The minute you think negatively, is the minute you start feeling bad and bad things usually follow bad thoughts. God is a powerful, loving force and if you turn to him, you will see wonderful things that your life truly has.

[Zoneboy]

Wasn't that a song? :lol: ;)

Yes by the New Radicals

[Stuck In The '70's]

I used to believe in Karma, but now I'm not so sure. My entire life, I was extremely generous and thoughtful to everyone. I don't smoke, drink, do drugs, and have always eaten more healthy than not. Despite this. I was rewarding with losing just about my entire family and got health problems while only in my 40s. Why is it "coming around" to me? Kids with cancer, the Holocaust victims, etc, etc, etc. Why did it come around to them? None of it makes any sense to me.
I'm so sorry for everything you've been through Janice. I can't even imagine going through all that. :(

When I was in school I was picked on terribly. I was bullied and had rumors spread about me all over that place.Some of the stuff that was said I haven't repeated to anybody and I'm still not going too. But I remember being in my room many nights and crying and asking God why was this happening to me. I never did anything to anybody. I thought about suicide. I even did some things when I was alone just contemplating it. In the end I came to the conclusion that I loved my family more than I hated myself. Well I guess I eventually got through all that although I'd be lying if I said that still didn't bother me. I lost my Mom 6 years ago. She was the kindest person you would have ever wanted to meet. Well she got sick by the time she was in her early 50's and she just deteriorated over the next 10 years. By the end...she was a recluse. She couldn't leave the house. She refused to see a doctor. I was the one who found her. I'm still haunted by that. My Dad has been in and out of hospitals for the last few years because of his heart. I am scared to death of losing him. I've even had dreams where he dies. My Mom had always been very religious. She believed in God totally. I believe in him too but sometimes it is hard. Bad things happen to good people and I don't understand it either. All I can do is pray.

[PunkyP0WER]

after my mom died, relations between my dad and his in-laws turned really volatile and my grandmother said "i hope your father gets deathly ill" well less than a month after she spoke those words she was diagnosed with lung cancer and died not long afterward. i just feel if you do bad or even wish bad on another person it will come back on you ten fold.

[dawsongirl]

Not really. All the people who I think should get it back to them never seem to, or it doesn't knock them down very long and they get back up stronger than ever. So no...either that, or someone pulling the strings thinks I deserve what **** I've gotten from others.

[Stormtracker TF]

I don't really believe in Karma per se, but I do believe that eventually you're going to get what you give.

[Hollywood Rock Chic]

I'm so sorry for everything you've been through Janice. I can't even imagine going through all that. :(

When I was in school I was picked on terribly. I was bullied and had rumors spread about me all over that place.Some of the stuff that was said I haven't repeated to anybody and I'm still not going too. But I remember being in my room many nights and crying and asking God why was this happening to me. I never did anything to anybody. I thought about suicide. I even did some things when I was alone just contemplating it. In the end I came to the conclusion that I loved my family more than I hated myself. Well I guess I eventually got through all that although I'd be lying if I said that still didn't bother me. I lost my Mom 6 years ago. She was the kindest person you would have ever wanted to meet. Well she got sick by the time she was in her early 50's and she just deteriorated over the next 10 years. By the end...she was a recluse. She couldn't leave the house. She refused to see a doctor. I was the one who found her. I'm still haunted by that. My Dad has been in and out of hospitals for the last few years because of his heart. I am scared to death of losing him. I've even had dreams where he dies. My Mom had always been very religious. She believed in God totally. I believe in him too but sometimes it is hard. Bad things happen to good people and I don't understand it either. All I can do is pray.


Sonny, you are one of the nicest and dearest members of this board; and I am sure that your mom, is now looking over you; it was just her time to be there with God; but her spirit is still alive and her live is still alive; and someday, you two will be together again:)


Karma, yes, I do believe in it; sometimes, Karma takes a lot longer than we expect it to happen; so, if you are wondering why these people who hurt you are not affected, just be patient. I truly believe that good people will be rewarded at the end, and the ones, that were bad towards others, well, they will get what they deserve at the end; sometimes Karma is at an instant and sometimes Karma takes years...

[catlover79]

I don't really believe in Karma per se, but I do believe that eventually you're going to get what you give.
Same here. I believe in God and try to leave things in His hands. It's not always easy, that's for sure.

[InspectorExstead]

Same here. I believe in God and try to leave things in His hands. It's not always easy, that's for sure.

ditto. i don't believe in karma. i believe in God's will. and in the end, everyone will reap what they've sown.

[catlover79]

after my mom died, relations between my dad and his in-laws turned really volatile and my grandmother said "i hope your father gets deathly ill" well less than a month after she spoke those words she was diagnosed with lung cancer and died not long afterward. i just feel if you do bad or even wish bad on another person it will come back on you ten fold.
Oh my goodness - how terrible. :(

[Stuck In The '70's]

Thanks Jenny and Tara. I really appreciate your kind words. :)

[Shine]

ditto. i don't believe in karma. i believe in God's will. and in the end, everyone will reap what they've sown.

This is a little like what Father Jack talked about in Church last Sunday. He talked about the difference between right and wrong and how we should let God show us the difference between right and wrong. He'll always show us the right path, though it will probably in the short term be the more difficult path to take. However, in the long run, we will not regret having taken the more difficult path.

[sunshinefizzy]

I am a big bleiever in karma.

I've had my fair share of being bullied either by family or kids at school. My brother's autism and going through my own high functioning autism disorder. My ovarian syndrome and the diabetes that was brought on by the ovary disorder. But I am a happy person nonetheless. Mom has told me that Wayne Dyer says the more you go through in your early life; the bigger destiny you get. That being said, most of us will be getting a big fat bonus check!!!:lol:

[MonarC]

Yep.

[Shine]

I'm so sorry for everything you've been through Janice. I can't even imagine going through all that. :(

When I was in school I was picked on terribly. I was bullied and had rumors spread about me all over that place.Some of the stuff that was said I haven't repeated to anybody and I'm still not going too. But I remember being in my room many nights and crying and asking God why was this happening to me. I never did anything to anybody. I thought about suicide. I even did some things when I was alone just contemplating it. In the end I came to the conclusion that I loved my family more than I hated myself. Well I guess I eventually got through all that although I'd be lying if I said that still didn't bother me. I lost my Mom 6 years ago. She was the kindest person you would have ever wanted to meet. Well she got sick by the time she was in her early 50's and she just deteriorated over the next 10 years. By the end...she was a recluse. She couldn't leave the house. She refused to see a doctor. I was the one who found her. I'm still haunted by that. My Dad has been in and out of hospitals for the last few years because of his heart. I am scared to death of losing him. I've even had dreams where he dies. My Mom had always been very religious. She believed in God totally. I believe in him too but sometimes it is hard. Bad things happen to good people and I don't understand it either. All I can do is pray.

Sonny, I'm sorry I didn't see this post until now. I'm not even sure I know what to say. I know you have talked about the difficulties that you had while in school, however, I didn't know it was quite that bad. :( One of the things I hated most about junior high and high school was the rumor mill. Especially since 99.9% of those rumors had no basis in fact.

I also didn't know much about your mother's passing and that it was you who found her. That must have been truly terrible. :( I can't even imagine how that sort of situation would effect me.

[Stuck In The '70's]

Sonny, I'm sorry I didn't see this post until now. I'm not even sure I know what to say. I know you have talked about the difficulties that you had while in school, however, I didn't know it was quite that bad. :( One of the things I hated most about junior high and high school was the rumor mill. Especially since 99.9% of those rumors had no basis in fact.

I also didn't know much about your mother's passing and that it was you who found her. That must have been truly terrible. :( I can't even imagine how that sort of situation would effect me.
Thanks Mike. :) The worst years were junior high and yea they have a rumor mill alright. People hear things and believe them as fact even though they have no proof. I wasn't the only kid that got caught in it. I knew a couple of others. I have nothing but contempt for all of those people.

Yea I only told one other person before now that I was the one to find her. It's hard to get over because it's the last memory I have of her. My sisters never saw her after she died and I think that was the right decision for them. Let them remember her the way she was.

[Yooch]

Stories I've read in this thread have touched me very deeply. I don't use the word Karma, but whatever you want to call it, I believe in it. For me, the concept is God's justice. I don't know why the wicked are often happy and the good are often full of unbelievable, constant suffering. It doesn't make sense, but I believe in the long run all will be made right. I don't know how, or why or when, and I don't know why God seems absent much of the time. I have no rational explanation. But I will continue to believe. God bless the posters who openly shared their hurts.:(

[Janice]

I'm so sorry for everything you've been through Janice. I can't even imagine going through all that. :(

When I was in school I was picked on terribly. I was bullied and had rumors spread about me all over that place.Some of the stuff that was said I haven't repeated to anybody and I'm still not going too. But I remember being in my room many nights and crying and asking God why was this happening to me. I never did anything to anybody. I thought about suicide. I even did some things when I was alone just contemplating it. In the end I came to the conclusion that I loved my family more than I hated myself. Well I guess I eventually got through all that although I'd be lying if I said that still didn't bother me. I lost my Mom 6 years ago. She was the kindest person you would have ever wanted to meet. Well she got sick by the time she was in her early 50's and she just deteriorated over the next 10 years. By the end...she was a recluse. She couldn't leave the house. She refused to see a doctor. I was the one who found her. I'm still haunted by that. My Dad has been in and out of hospitals for the last few years because of his heart. I am scared to death of losing him. I've even had dreams where he dies. My Mom had always been very religious. She believed in God totally. I believe in him too but sometimes it is hard. Bad things happen to good people and I don't understand it either. All I can do is pray.
Thanks Sonny. I know you can relate. :( As for the bullies, that is terrible. You've told me before, and it makes me sad every time. Do you ever think of tracking the creeps down and giving them their due, lol. It sure is a nice fantasy.

[Hollow]

I'm so sorry for everything you've been through Janice. I can't even imagine going through all that. :(

When I was in school I was picked on terribly. I was bullied and had rumors spread about me all over that place.Some of the stuff that was said I haven't repeated to anybody and I'm still not going too. But I remember being in my room many nights and crying and asking God why was this happening to me. I never did anything to anybody. I thought about suicide. I even did some things when I was alone just contemplating it. In the end I came to the conclusion that I loved my family more than I hated myself. Well I guess I eventually got through all that although I'd be lying if I said that still didn't bother me. I lost my Mom 6 years ago. She was the kindest person you would have ever wanted to meet. Well she got sick by the time she was in her early 50's and she just deteriorated over the next 10 years. By the end...she was a recluse. She couldn't leave the house. She refused to see a doctor. I was the one who found her. I'm still haunted by that. My Dad has been in and out of hospitals for the last few years because of his heart. I am scared to death of losing him. I've even had dreams where he dies. My Mom had always been very religious. She believed in God totally. I believe in him too but sometimes it is hard. Bad things happen to good people and I don't understand it either. All I can do is pray.
yeah, i can relate. i was bullied and harassed through most of my first year of high school and i couldn't stand it. i was extremely suicidal and made one suicide attempt. i know it's anything but inspirational, but sometimes what pulled me through was my enjoyment in hinting to everyone (especially my tormentors) how self-destructive, morbid and hateful i was. conveniently enough, the bullying seemed to stop after word got around that i'd been sent to the ER for suicidal tendencies/threats. i'm still quite traumatized by how i was treated most of that year. my mom died from cancer when i was 13, as everyone here knows. i wish my dad had died instead of her. i loved her more than anything and ever since immediately after her death, he's taken advantage of her absence to abuse me without anyone to stop him. three years ago i got closely acquainted with someone who made my life beautiful and i trusted with everything. long story short i had two years of my life ruined and i'm still far from recovering. i love him just as much but i really didn't deserve all this ****. i just tried to make things alright (while being often led on) and all i got back was potentially permanent damage. i've never felt so much anger and hate and malevolence in me before. sure i've got a blessing or two but i think i was put here to suffer and make way for god's favorites, no matter what i give. i base this not just on the few stories vaguely described here, as it is normal to have horrible experiences in life, but plenty of other things that would probably span the length of a novel if written.

[Fleet]

I used to believe in Karma, but now I'm not so sure. My entire life, I was extremely generous and thoughtful to everyone. I don't smoke, drink, do drugs, and have always eaten more healthy than not. Despite this. I was rewarding with losing just about my entire family and got health problems while only in my 40s. Why is it "coming around" to me?.

You may be rewarded later in your life. Probably when you least expect it.

Kids with cancer, the Holocaust victims, etc, etc, etc. Why did it come around to them? None of it makes any sense to me.

I don't want to turn this into a "mystic" or "religious" post, so, in brief:
They will be rewarded in the afterlife. From what I've read many people choose to endure hardships because it is a learning experience and improves the soul. Not much is learned when everythings is going great.

[Lee]

No, I do not believe in Karma, mainly because I do not wish evil on anyone,
no matter what a person may have done in their life. God will judge all people
one day in eternity.

[Stuck In The '70's]

Originally Posted by Janice
Thanks Sonny. I know you can relate. As for the bullies, that is terrible. You've told me before, and it makes me sad every time. Do you ever think of tracking the creeps down and giving them their due, lol. It sure is a nice fantasy.


When I was in school I used to think of that. LOL The thing is I'm pretty sure they don't even give any of that a second thought now. They probably say to themselves that it was just kids being kids.


Originally Posted by Family Ties Forever!
I know too well what being bullied is like. All through school I was bullied. My brother who is slightly older than me used to stick up for me at times. Some of the worst teasing I ever had was in second grade. That's one year I would never want to relive. I didn't handle it well. I was teased endlessly and provoked to the point of retaliating. I was wrong for that. I was little and stupid. If I had it to do over again I would handle it in a different way. Unfortunately as the years went on the teasing continued.
I'm sorry you saw your mother's health deteriorate and that you were the one to find her. I'm not sure I could recover from something like that. I'm sorry about your thoughts of suicide. There have been times in my life where I was severely depressed and felt that way. Main thing that stopped me was not being able to put my mother through that.


I'm sorry for all you went through Jenny. :( I don't understand how anybody ,even kids get pleasure of hurting other people like that. The bullying for me started in the 5th grade. Before that everything wasn't that bad. I think one of the reasons I was picked on was I didn't like to fight. Anyway when I went to junior high ( 7th grade), I remember thinking finally I'll have a fresh start. In our school district the junior high brought together a bunch of different elementary school students so I didn't know a lot of them. It only got worst though. That's when I not only got picked on by these same creeps but the rumors started. No matter what I did I couldn't shake them. I couldn't tell my parents so basically I led 2 seperate lives. If I didn't have a great home life, I don't think I would have survived. And yea , what stopped me from killing myself the most was what it would have done to my Mom. I just couldn't put her through all that.

Originally Posted by safety pin
yeah, i can relate. i was bullied and harassed through most of my first year of high school and i couldn't stand it. i was extremely suicidal and made one suicide attempt. i know it's anything but inspirational, but sometimes what pulled me through was my enjoyment in hinting to everyone (especially my tormentors) how self-destructive, morbid and hateful i was. conveniently enough, the bullying seemed to stop after word got around that i'd been sent to the ER for suicidal tendencies/threats. i'm still quite traumatized by how i was treated most of that year. my mom died from cancer when i was 13, as everyone here knows. i wish my dad had died instead of her. i loved her more than anything and ever since immediately after her death, he's taken advantage of her absence to abuse me without anyone to stop him. three years ago i got closely acquainted with someone who made my life beautiful and i trusted with everything. long story short i had two years of my life ruined and i'm still far from recovering. i love him just as much but i really didn't deserve all this ****. i just tried to make things alright (while being often led on) and all i got back was potentially permanent damage. i've never felt so much anger and hate and malevolence in me before. sure i've got a blessing or two but i think i was put here to suffer and make way for god's favorites, no matter what i give. i base this not just on the few stories vaguely described here, as it is normal to have horrible experiences in life, but plenty of other things that would probably span the length of a novel if written.


I'm sorry about everything you have gone through Sarah. :( People just don't realize that what they do have consequences to other people. They say its just kids being kids...get over it...and stuff like that but it's not that easy. I guess it affects some people more than others. I'm real sorry about your mom. I couldn't imagine losing mine at 13. I don't think I could have handled it.

[waichingliu81]

people seem to relate karma to religion somewhat, although whilst i am not religious myself i do believe that what goes around come around. if you treat people badly or disrespect them in any way, then you will suffer the consequences. i've been abused- both physically and emotionally, not to mention i've been bullied and picked on by people in the past, and frankly, it took me a considerable amount of time to recover and move on with my life. those incidents left me physically and emotionally scarred, not to mention on occasions depressed and traumatised, afterwards.

i've been accused of saying or doing things by people i have met, which weren't true and i have had my kindness that i've shown them thrown back in my face.

treat people as you'd like to be treated as the saying goes; if you don't, then well, one day you will pay the ultimate price. i don't wish to sound like a bad person, but i've been through a lot of heartache in the past and thus i cannot bring myself to put my faith in people, of whom i don't like, and where all they ever did was treat me like a piece of crap

[adultescent]

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[Lee]

no, the word Karma means nothing to me...

Hey, Anita. Is this the same Adultescent that used to have an account on
Youtube with lots of FOL episodes? This is Lee Scott, better known on
Youtube as mrtelevision, lover of pugs and female police officers.

[dawsongirl]

All I have to say is that I can only cross my fingers and hope that the jerks who scammed us on ebay get what's coming to them. Nothing will happen, but I wish it would. All the experience did was make me extremely bitter and hateful.

[ThomasE]

Same here. I believe in God and try to leave things in His hands. It's not always easy, that's for sure.

Exactly! That is where my faith is as well. I do believe in reaping what you sow. About a week and a half ago, I was driving a production car at work and was at a red light in Brooklyn on 4th ave and 3rd st and some car rammed the back of mine. As a result, my car went rolling into the intersection and almost caused another accident with another car that was making a turn.

The car that hit me did not follow up with me but drove away in the rain. I could not i.d. the car due to bad weather and have some back and head injury. Although the person left the scene of the crime, I still believe that God will take care of the other driver. What you do does come back to you. There is no doubt about that! I have seen results of good coming back as a result of doing good things. I have seen bad things happen as a result of sowing bad seed. Sow good things and not bad.

[adultescent]

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