Solomon's Weekly Rant (2/23/08) Discussion: Too Much Malcolm; DTV; Amen on TV One

[Pavan]

Please read:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/02/mini-dvd-review-smurfs-season-1-volume.html

... then discuss.

[Dean Winchester]

I agree about Malcolm vs. DS. I think Malcolm And Eddie gets preferential treatment since it's far more recent, and the fact that it starred a Cosby actor probably doesn't hurt it either. DS is seen as an old sitcom with a stigma attached to it, but if that's the case, why would BET even pick it up?

[TVFactFan]

I agree about Malcolm vs. DS. I think Malcolm And Eddie gets preferential treatment since it's far more recent, and the fact that it starred a Cosby actor probably doesn't hurt it either. DS is seen as an old sitcom with a stigma attached to it, but if that's the case, why would BET even pick it up?


Exactly Dean, why even pick up DS if it's only going to be air ONCE a day which is when a lot of people are either sleep, at school, or at work-lol

[oz615]

Exactly Dean, why even pick up DS if it's only going to be air ONCE a day which is when a lot of people are either sleep, at school, or at work-lol

Plus my concern is as well is that they won't air ALL the episode before it mysteriously vanishes from the scheduled

[TVFactFan]

Plus my concern is as well is that they won't air ALL the episode before it mysteriously vanishes from the scheduled


Well with 2 airings a day the whole series should be shown by the end of May. So let's keep our Fingers crossed, I won't start recording the eps until mid March

[friendsfan77]

Even though I actually like Malcolm & Eddie (well I did originally, haven't seen most of the episodes in years so that opinion could change overtime), I do agree that it comes on too much. No show should come on more than twice a day regularly IMO and in the case of DS, it should be run all the way through at least once.

[Brieannas21]

Ok I actually took the time to read your rant. Amen is coming back to TVOne??? I haven't heard that. I saw that Good News was added to their lineup.

[TVFactFan]

Ok I actually took the time to read your rant. Amen is coming back to TVOne??? I haven't heard that. I saw that Good News was added to their lineup.


Yup, Amen is coming back and who cares about "Good News". They keep adding all these 90's UPN reject shows to their lineup, they need to learn from BET

[Brieannas21]

Yup, Amen is coming back and who cares about "Good News". They keep adding all these 90's UPN reject shows to their lineup, they need to learn from BET

I for one Liked Good News, and I'm glad that Amen is coming back, now I can finish recording episodes. They need to bring back 227

[TVFactFan]

I for one Liked Good News, and I'm glad that Amen is coming back, now I can finish recording episodes. They need to bring back 227


No they need to add something else from the 70's besides Good Times

[Brieannas21]

No they need to add something else from the 70's besides Good Times

Like? Not a lot to choose from, when it comes to black comedies from the 70's

[TVFactFan]

Like? Not a lot to choose from, when it comes to black comedies from the 70's


Jeffersons
Baby I'm Back
Sanford an Son
Flip Wilson Show
Grady
Sanford Arms
Cos
New Bill Cosby show

[Brieannas21]

Jeffersons
Baby I'm Back
Sanford an Son
Flip Wilson Show
Grady
Sanford Arms
Cos
New Bill Cosby show


Thats slim pickins'

[TVFactFan]

Thats slim pickins'


Well it could be one of these shows too but a show as too be 85% black in order to be on the schedule

Welcome Back Kotter
Roll Out
All in the Family
Cop and the Kid
In the Beginning
CPO Sharkey
Fish
That's My Mama
Benson
Soap

[thebloodyscot]

I'm glad that Amen is coming back. They need to bring back 227
I agree. And DS should be shown as much as Malcolm

[Dean Winchester]

I wish TV One would be a little less "this show has to be all black". There are a lot of great shows like Gimme A Break, The Jeffersons, etc... which had interracial casts that should be on TV One more than a lot of the UPN rejects. 227 and Good Times were the only shows they had that I liked, and 227's gone now

[TVFactFan]

I wish TV One would be a little less "this show has to be all black". There are a lot of great shows like Gimme A Break, The Jeffersons, etc... which had interracial casts that should be on TV One more than a lot of the UPN rejects. 227 and Good Times were the only shows they had that I liked, and 227's gone now


I agree, it's nothing but a "One Dimensional Cable Network"

[Ireneparalegal]

I'd love to see THAT'S MY MAMA on tv again.

[thebloodyscot]

I wish TV One would be a little less "this show has to be all black". There are a lot of great shows like Gimme A Break, The Jeffersons, etc... which had interracial casts that should be on TV One more than a lot of the UPN rejects.
I also agree

[TVFactFan]

I'd love to see THAT'S MY MAMA on tv again.


Yeah they could air it ONCE during the weekends like BET will do with THEA but they just rather air Good Times

[Ireneparalegal]

I didn't realize Malcolm and Eddie was airing 6 times in one day. That is ridiculous for ANY SHOW.

M&E was airing on Si TV but I never tuned in to watch it.

[TVFactFan]

I didn't realize Malcolm and Eddie was airing 6 times in one day. That is ridiculous for ANY SHOW.

M&E was airing on Si TV but I never tuned in to watch it.


I'm surprised Malcolm Jamal Warner would team up with someone like Eddie Griffin-lol

[Ireneparalegal]

I'm surprised Malcolm Jamal Warner would team up with someone like Eddie Griffin-lol
I'm surprised Eddie would team up with Malcolm. :eek: Nothing against Malcolm, but I would think Eddie would see Malcolm as "too clean cut." :lol:

[TVFactFan]

I'm surprised Eddie would team up with Malcolm. :eek: Nothing against Malcolm, but I would think Eddie would see Malcolm as "too clean cut." :lol:


And I would think Malcolm would think Eddie is TOO GHETTO-lol

[Ireneparalegal]

And I would think Malcolm would think Eddie is TOO GHETTO-lol
HEL-LO? :lol:

[Brieannas21]

Well it could be one of these shows too but a show as too be 85% black in order to be on the schedule

Welcome Back Kotter
Roll Out
All in the Family
Cop and the Kid
In the Beginning
CPO Sharkey
Fish
That's My Mama
Benson
Soap

Yeah TVOne ain't showing any of those shows. :lol:

[Brieannas21]

I'm surprised Eddie would team up with Malcolm. :eek: Nothing against Malcolm, but I would think Eddie would see Malcolm as "too clean cut." :lol:

Have you seen the man, he has two nipple rings. Also the man can right some erotic poetry. Malcolm is far from clean cut.

[TVFactFan]

Yeah TVOne ain't showing any of those shows. :lol:


That's why I don't even turn to the channel anymore

[Jude The Obscure]

BET has previously aired "Roll Out" and "Baby I'm Back", but of course, they need to come back, because it has been a long time. I doubt we see any variety shows picked up because of music rights issues. But I do love the theme song to The New Bill Cosby Show ("Chump Change").

[Ireneparalegal]

Have you seen the man, he has two nipple rings. Also the man can right some erotic poetry. Malcolm is far from clean cut.
I always got the feeling that he "changed" after he lost his virginity. :lol:

[Jude The Obscure]

I thought Malcolm was good with Jason Alexander in "Listen Up" (which by CBS ratings standards, should still be on the air!)

[TVFactFan]

BET has previously aired "Roll Out" and "Baby I'm Back", but of course, they need to come back, because it has been a long time. I doubt we see any variety shows picked up because of music rights issues. But I do love the theme song to The New Bill Cosby Show ("Chump Change").


You watched the-"NEW BILL COSBY SHOW: in 1972?

Also I had no idea BET aired Roll Out

[Brieannas21]

I wish TV One would be a little less "this show has to be all black". There are a lot of great shows like Gimme A Break, The Jeffersons, etc... which had interracial casts that should be on TV One more than a lot of the UPN rejects. 227 and Good Times were the only shows they had that I liked, and 227's gone now

They have aired shows who's cast isn't all black.

[Jude The Obscure]

You watched the-"NEW BILL COSBY SHOW: in 1972?

Also I had no idea BET aired Roll Out


Yes, Sol.......I'm an old timer :lol:

I also watched Cos

Yep BET aired Roll Out I think it was the late 80s (our cable system actually replaced by MTV with BET, because of some survey they claimed they took--uh,,,,,,,,yea, right) and around the same time, Baby I'm Back (which I felt had so much potential had CBS allowed it to grow).

[TVFactFan]

Yes, Sol.......I'm an old timer :lol:

I also watched Cos

Yep BET aired Roll Out I think it was the late 80s (our cable system actually replaced by MTV with BET, because of some survey they claimed they took--uh,,,,,,,,yea, right) and around the same time, Baby I'm Back (which I felt had so much potential had CBS allowed it to grow).


Damm I want to see Cos and New Bill Cosby Show one Day. Notice it's on my Want list below. I finally did get to see the Redd Foxx Variety Show that aired in 1977 on ABC

[Pavan]

Besides Eve, All of Us...TV One doesn't air any other UPN comedies. Unless you think All About the Andersons and Wanda at Large were from UPN, which they weren't...they aired on The WB and Fox. For Your Love and Parent'hood were WB. Good News just started. TV One has aired some other short lived series in the past, but mostly from the 90s. Remember they did a One in a Million for a few airings, don't know why they pulled it so fast, though.
BET airs Malcolm & Eddie, The Parkers, Girlfriends from UPN, so isn't that more than TV One?

TV One airs Hangin' with Mr. Cooper, which I loved. Roc is also good. I love Amen too. Good Times is one of their highest rated shows, as well as Martin. 227 needs to return.
TV One airs Boston Public and A Man Called Hawke, lots of white cast members there, but I think you have to have a black star since that is what TV One is about.

The Hughleys is coming in April.

I do agree they should air some short lived shows on weekends. Like Grady, Sanford Arms, Checking In...maybe some sort of rotator. The Jeffersons would be the best show to add on weekdays. Gimme a Break! aired once during a marathon, but it would certainly fit in their line-up as a regular.

[TVFactFan]

And it seems like a show TV One will never let go, it's been 4 years and counting

[Brieannas21]

I always got the feeling that he "changed" after he lost his virginity. :lol:


:lol: Don't that happen with all men? Once they get a sweet taste, their whole walk and talk change.

[Jude The Obscure]

Damm I want to see Cos and New Bill Cosby Show one Day. Notice it's on my Want list below. I finally did get to see the Redd Foxx Variety Show that aired in 1977 on ABC

Cos was more of a kid friendly variety show because it aired Sundays at 7pm eastern/6pm central and was opposite "60 Minutes" and "The Wonderful World of Disney". I think this explains why ABC did not leave it on the schedule too long.

I'm surprised The Redd Foxx Hour didn't do better since Redd was still a BIG star fresh from Sanford. I guess the timeslot was the primary reason--but not sure. I know I enjoyed it while it was on.

[Ireneparalegal]

:lol: Don't that happen with all men? Once they get a sweet taste, their whole walk and talk change.
:lol: Their whole demeanor changes that's for sure. Malcolm must have gotten it good to be wearing two nipple rings and getting himself all in shape. ;) There was a pic posted of Malcolm without a shirt on here on the boards last year. I never forgot it. ;) :lol:

[TVFactFan]

Cos was more of a kid friendly variety show because it aired Sundays at 7pm eastern/6pm central and was opposite "60 Minutes" and "The Wonderful World of Disney". I think this explains why ABC did not leave it on the schedule too long.

I'm surprised The Redd Foxx Hour didn't do better since Redd was still a BIG star fresh from Sanford. I guess the timeslot was the primary reason--but not sure. I know I enjoyed it while it was on.


The Redd Foxx Show couldn't compete with Barnaby Jones on Thursday Nights at 10pm. The one ep of Redd Fox Variety is with Don Knotts as a guest. Not that enjoyable

[friendsfan77]

I wouldn't mind seeing The Bill Cosby Show (1969-71)

[catsrule]

TV One airs Boston Public and A Man Called Hawke, lots of white cast members there, but I think you have to have a black star since that is what TV One is about. They should air Benson and Dag then. I haven't seen Dag since it aired on NBC. :(

[TVFactFan]

I wouldn't mind seeing The Bill Cosby Show (1969-71)


That show was released on DVD last June

[Brieannas21]

:lol: Their whole demeanor changes that's for sure. Malcolm must have gotten it good to be wearing two nipple rings and getting himself all in shape. ;) There was a pic posted of Malcolm without a shirt on here on the boards last year. I never forgot it. ;) :lol:

All I know is that Karen is one lucky woman ;)

[Jude The Obscure]

The Redd Foxx Show couldn't compete with Barnaby Jones on Thursday Nights at 10pm. The one ep of Redd Fox Variety is with Don Knotts as a guest. Not that enjoyable

Well I will take your word--there are a lot of shows I enjoyed as kid that watching today I would prolly be bored to tears seeing!:p

[TVFactFan]

Well I will take your word--there are a lot of shows I enjoyed as kid that watching today I would prolly be bored to tears seeing!:p


That's another show TV One can add

[Jude The Obscure]

I have rarely seen any channel add on an old variety/comedy hour to their schedule. The exception being AmericanLife (then known as Goodlife TV) when they played reruns of The Leslie Uggams Show, Jimmy Durante Presents the Lennon Sisters, and Tony Orlando & Dawn.

[Ireneparalegal]

I have rarely seen any channel add on an old variety/comedy hour to their schedule. The exception being AmericanLife (then known as Goodlife TV) when they played reruns of The Leslie Uggams Show, Jimmy Durante Presents the Lennon Sisters, and Tony Orlando & Dawn.
That was awesome wasn't it? I really loved watching Tony Orlando and Dawn. Ahhh memories. ;)

[Pavan]

Since Diff'rent Strokes is now on BET, it doesn't need to be on ION. I have always wanted it to come to ION. I think this is what should happen to some shows that do not air currently:

ION:
Silver Spoons
Facts of Life
Perfect Strangers
Wonder Years
One Day at a Time

BET:
Webster (would fit with DS)
What's Happening Now!!
Sanford Arms (special marathon or once every Sanford episode airs)
Grady (same as above)
Baby I'm Back (Demond Wilson)
New Odd Couple
That's My Mama!
Singer & Sons (with Ann-Marie Johnson, fits with WHN)
Here and Now (would fit with Malcolm Jamal-Warner's M&E)

TV One:
The Jeffersons (yes, it is on TVL, but TV One almost airs stuff unedited and it would be better than TVL)
Gimme a Break!
Benson
Cosby (1996)
Checking In (air it in a special marathon or with The Jeffersons cycle during season 6)
What's Happening!!
227 (needs to return)
One in a Million (air it again with ALL episodes!)
Getting By
Sinbad
Rhythm & Blues (with Anna-Maria Horsford of Amen)

[Jude The Obscure]

That was awesome wasn't it? I really loved watching Tony Orlando and Dawn. Ahhh memories. ;)

Yes!! I've been thinking of at least renting the DVD collection.

[Dean Winchester]

Since Diff'rent Strokes is now on BET, it doesn't need to be on ION. I have always wanted it to come to ION. I think this is what should happen to some shows that do not air currently:

ION:
Silver Spoons
Facts of Life
Perfect Strangers
Wonder Years
One Day at a Time

I wish you were right, but none of those shows have the dollar signs that something like Friends has, so I doubt we'll ever see them now that ION's sold out

[Pavan]

I'm talking about daytime, if they expand, no way they would add those in primetime. And I doubt they can air Friends.

[TVFactFan]

Since Diff'rent Strokes is now on BET, it doesn't need to be on ION. I have always wanted it to come to ION. I think this is what should happen to some shows that do not air currently:

ION:
Silver Spoons
Facts of Life
Perfect Strangers
Wonder Years
One Day at a Time

BET:
Webster (would fit with DS)
What's Happening Now!!
Sanford Arms (special marathon or once every Sanford episode airs)
Grady (same as above)
Baby I'm Back (Demond Wilson)
New Odd Couple
That's My Mama!
Singer & Sons (with Ann-Marie Johnson, fits with WHN)
Here and Now (would fit with Malcolm Jamal-Warner's M&E)

TV One:
The Jeffersons (yes, it is on TVL, but TV One almost airs stuff unedited and it would be better than TVL)
Gimme a Break!
Benson
Cosby (1996)
Checking In (air it in a special marathon or with The Jeffersons cycle during season 6)
What's Happening!!
227 (needs to return)
One in a Million (air it again with ALL episodes!)
Getting By
Sinbad
Rhythm & Blues (with Anna-Maria Horsford of Amen)


I wanted to see Singers and Sons because of "Esther Rolle" and the guy who played Tommy on Martin-lol

[friendsfan77]

I'm talking about daytime, if they expand, no way they would add those in primetime. And I doubt they can air Friends.
If they can't air Friends, I won't be surprised next if they'll probably pick up something else that has already more than enough exposure. I may not be a big fan of Baywatch, but at least that has not been seen in a while. Maybe daytime will be better if/when it happens.

[Pavan]

Honestly, besides MASH, ION hasn't picked up anything overexposed. Boston Legal is brand new to syndication this fall, so that must be a good buy for them as they can market it as a syndication premiere (and they could establish itself as a major network). George Lopez was the same way on Nick at Nite, and that has really took off on the network. Baywatch, yes, that hasn't been overexposed in some years and Drew Carey was out of syndication when it came to ION.

I could care less what ION airs from 8-11p but when they start MASH and Boston Legal in the fall, they had better hope they expand in the daytime with a nice block by then.

[Ireneparalegal]

I could care less what ION airs from 8-11p but when they start MASH and Boston Legal in the fall, they had better hope they expand in the daytime with a nice block by then.
Do you mean get rid of some of that paid programming?

[Dean Winchester]

I agree, ION should get rid of some of the infomercials, add some more in the afternoon and also some stuff later in the evening after prime time. I would love soemthing like One Day At A Time around midnight (I don't really watch tv in the daytime with school and everything)

[Pavan]

Yeah get rid of paid programming from at least 3-6pm since they have the qubo block on Fridays at that time. It would be a great start! They can even call 3-6p block ION Daytime.

[TVFactFan]

I need ION to email me a intelligent answer as to why they don't air sitcoms on friday night

[Ireneparalegal]

I need ION to email me a intelligent answer as to why they don't air sitcoms on friday night
Because they are too much like TVland...FRIDAY NIGHT MOVIES. :lol:

[TVFactFan]

Because they are too much like TVland...FRIDAY NIGHT MOVIES. :lol:


Is that what they show? I told you ION and TV LAND are 3rd cousins-lol

[Ireneparalegal]

Is that what they show? I told you ION and TV LAND are 3rd cousins-lol
Yep. They air movies on Friday nights. :mad:

[ThomasE]

:lol: Their whole demeanor changes that's for sure. Malcolm must have gotten it good to be wearing two nipple rings and getting himself all in shape. ;) There was a pic posted of Malcolm without a shirt on here on the boards last year. I never forgot it. ;) :lol:


Oooooh Ms. Irene. I'm tellin' on you! LOL.

[Jude The Obscure]

Yep. They air movies on Friday nights. :mad:

yea, thanks to that RHI programming deal. I can understand Sat and Sun, but Fri makes no sense--I want my sitcoms! LOL

[TVFactFan]

yea, thanks to that RHI programming deal. I can understand Sat and Sun, but Fri makes no sense--I want my sitcoms! LOL


I would even settle for Mama's Family on Friday Night, atleast it would be a sitcom-lol