View Full Version : Michael Jackson To Begin Comeback During Super Bowl
Brian Damage
01-28-2008, 08:27 PM
Michael Jackson will make a surprise comeback at the Super Bowl this weekend in TV advertisements to promote the 25th anniversary of Thriller. The star is to be honored in a Pepsi commercial, based on the ghoulish Thriller video, which will air during the showdown game between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants on Sunday.
The move is a marketing ploy to promote a special anniversary version of the album - and will be followed by a "major TV, radio, online and outdoor advertising campaign", reports the New York Post.
Jackson is also rumored to be among the stars appearing at the Grammy Awards on February 10 alongside Akon, will.i.am and Fergie.
Dean Winchester
01-28-2008, 08:53 PM
can Michael try to make a comeback on present material, instead of trying to remind people he was great 25 years ago? It's all about revisiting Thriller instead of seeing what he has to offer in 2008
eltonfan80
01-28-2008, 09:04 PM
can Michael try to make a comeback on present material, instead of trying to remind people he was great 25 years ago? It's all about revisiting Thriller instead of seeing what he has to offer in 2008
i agree with you 100 percent
88survivor
01-28-2008, 09:55 PM
He'll soon follow in Janet's footsteps...:lol: :rolleyes:
Dean Winchester
01-28-2008, 10:05 PM
I just don't get the hoopla surrounding the Thriller reissue. Old albums from the 60's-90's are rereleased with superior sound and bonus materials every single week. I mean, Beck is releasing 2 disc special edition of Odelay just this week, but instead it's aimed to the diehards, and not a "remember how good I was in 1996?" type of promotion to get back fans who might've moved on.
Plus, I hate the desperate way he's hooking up with a lot of lame urban artists to try to be hip to todays market. I remember someone said it's great because he used to kiss the ass of a lot of white artists, but if you seriously think Akon and will.i.am have more talent than McCartney, Jagger and Mercury, I beg you to put down that rock you're smoking for your own good. He's trying too hard, even now that producers like Pharrell and Timbaland are working with more pop artists than ever before.
Janice
01-28-2008, 10:19 PM
I understand the Thriller deal, as I'm a big fan of that album; however, hanging on that does seem desperate. I think Michael is talented, and is capable of creating new music. I wouldn't mind some new MJ music.
catlover79
01-28-2008, 11:08 PM
can Michael try to make a comeback on present material, instead of trying to remind people he was great 25 years ago? It's all about revisiting Thriller instead of seeing what he has to offer in 2008
I agree there, too. Sad story, really.
SBTB Geek
01-29-2008, 02:07 AM
I've actually heard two of the re-worked songs from Thriller. The first being "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (which is doing pretty good in radio) and the other "The Girl Is Mine." The material actually seems quite fresh, basically, the originals only serve as "samples" in the new set. It's almost as if Thriller 25 is a completely new album.
I think it might be a hit. (or the singles at least)
Dean Winchester
01-29-2008, 02:16 AM
I've actually heard two of the re-worked songs from Thriller. The first being "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" (which is doing pretty good in radio) and the other "The Girl Is Mine." The material actually seems quite fresh, basically, the originals only serve as "samples" in the new set. It's almost as if Thriller 25 is a completely new album.
I think it might be a hit. (or the singles at least)
well, the songs are always going to be held in negative comparison to the originals.
IMO, all he's doing with this is showing that he's out of creative ideas and all he has left is to stay in the past and update his oldies with rappers that 90% of the people who bought Thriller in the 1980's can give two craps about. I first had Thriller on vinyl in 1984 or so as a gift, I can care less about Akon or will.i.am and only like one of Fergie's hits. Totally different generations. It'd be like Led Zeppelin deciding that a special anniversary edition of Led Zeppelin IV with Fall Out Boy on Black Dog would be a good idea, it's not.
Lots of people rerelease their older albums with bonus tracks, but none of them have decided to treat them as new albums. In ten years, these current mixes will be laughably dated while the originals will still hold up.
SBTB Geek
01-29-2008, 02:22 AM
^I don't think he's targeting the original audience that purchased Thriller back when it was released. The songs sound VERY contemporary... he's obviously going for the 14-25 crowd.
88survivor
01-29-2008, 08:01 PM
MJ is going to be either a hit or miss in most of his heydays in the 90s-00s. It was Blood On The Dancefloor that turned fans away because the album as a whole was bad. It was Invincible that many think MJ was trying to hard to recapture the Thriller & Off The Wall magic year, despite having a huge expensive video and a hit song.
It's either you liked him in the past or you disliked him in the present. There is really no yes or no answer.
Dean Winchester
01-29-2008, 08:09 PM
^I don't think he's targeting the original audience that purchased Thriller back when it was released. The songs sound VERY contemporary... he's obviously going for the 14-25 crowd.
I think if he wants to aim a younger market, why not do a new cd? I think it's a mess because people who bought Thriller in the 1980's don't care about Akon and the sort (I admit tho that I am grateful for Akon's presence on The Sweet Escape, since radio played the hell out of that song simply because he was on it, so it gave Gwen a big hit) and people who listen to Akon, will.i.am and the sort don't really want to hear music from 25 years ago. It's really a missed opportunity because people who love Thriller as it is don't want new "hip" remixes, and those who are into the artists he's working with will quit cold turkey the moment they realized their parents loved "Wanna Be Startin' Something" back in 1983.
I hope the 2001 remaster doesn't go out of print, because I think the bonus tracks on there are more to the liking of those of us who grew up with a black male MJ than a few last ditch attempts at trying to be cool to an audience who doesn't even remember a time when Michael wasn't having scandal after scandal.
BTW, if he's going to work with a younger star, why not work with Justin? That is the most logical choice. Justin has been groomed as the "new Michael Jackson" since his time in N'Sync. Plus, MJ's older fans are more aware of Justin than they are Akon and the sort since Justin is more of a celebrity. I think MJ and JT making a video together would be a big event, much moreso than Akon or will.i.am.
Rihanna should also be on the album too, since Don't Stop The Music is essentially Wanna Be Startin' Something, or is she too familiar to pop fans who remember MJ looking human? lol
Austin Tripper
01-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Only one year ago... at the Super Bowl we saw one of the top 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows! Prince an older artist got a shot to remind everyone why he was respected 25 years ago! Thats what the public wants, if your an older artist you have to come back with some AMAZING ((((Live)))) Performing!
Prince played flawless in a rain storm! His voice was perfect and didnt miss one note on the guitar even though rain was pelting him from every angle!
The Police just had a HUGE COMEBACK! We saw them first at the Rocky Hall performing for the first time in 20 years. They sounded perfect!! Stings voice sounds flawless and the band was on point! Again ((((Live)))) I just saw them - Lead singer from Pink Floyd - Duran Duran all making comebacks at that Green Concert last summer all perfect, on point and of course 100% live.
Now Michael Jackson, I wrote this on another topic, here we have a guy that in his prime, Lip Synced all his major tv appearances, he avoided singing with a broken foot?? .. at the Rock Hall when he was inducted, which is a place EVERYONE sings ((((LIVE)))). Michael pretended he had a broken foot and said "There will be no moonwalking tonight", one of his peers yelled from the audience "SING"!!!
Look at what is set up for this Thriller 25. Nothing is planned for him to actually sing! Everything is anything you can think of that has nothing to do with Singing (((LIVE))) or even rehashing his dance moves from 20 years ago, because we all know he hasnt done anything original even in dancing since the mid 1990's.
Just watch this promotion and wonder why this guy isn't singing live! Wonder also why this guy didnt perform with a live mic for any of his TV performances in his prime. Why? All smoke & mirrors.
The proof is in the pudding and just watch ALL the Thriller 25 Promotion. Then think of all the other older acts and how they sing 100% live, play 100% live.
Cactus Jack
01-31-2008, 07:42 PM
I understand the Thriller deal, as I'm a big fan of that album; however, hanging on that does seem desperate. I think Michael is talented, and is capable of creating new music. I wouldn't mind some new MJ music.
:eek:
I would LOL
Dean Winchester
01-31-2008, 07:52 PM
The Police just had a HUGE COMEBACK! We saw them first at the Rocky Hall performing for the first time in 20 years. They sounded perfect!!
they're also a perfect example to warn artists like MJ about tampering and revisiting your classic catalog. They got back together in 1986 and re-recorded Don't Stand So Close To Me to make it more "mid-1980's", and in 1997, Puff Daddy remixed Roxanne. I don't know a soul who prefers either DSSCTM '86 or Roxanne '97 to the originals, and when you hear them on the radio, it's always the original versions.
I hate it when I see people call Prince a "poor mans Jacko" (someone said this on UKMix a week ago), when like you've stated contrasting the two, that Prince is far more professional than MJ as a performer. MJ weasiled out of performing at the Hall Of Fame because of a broken foot when Prince performed during a rainstorm. The only thing the two of them really have in common is that they are (or were in MJ's case lol) black men who really reached their apex in popularity during the Reagan administation and the glory days of MTV. Besides that, they're completely different and have totally different types of work ethics as performers and want totally different things. You'd never see Prince desecrate his classics to work with a hip artist.
I can't wait until 2012 when Michael releases his next album - the 25 anniversary version of Bad.
;)
Dean Winchester
01-31-2008, 08:16 PM
I can't wait until 2012 when Michael releases his next album - the 25 anniversary version of Bad.
;)
actually, there's probably a 30th anniversary of Off The Wall coming out next year. Can't wait to hear Soulja Boy's take on Rock With You :lol:
88survivor
02-03-2008, 02:32 PM
Is MJ going to pull a Janet Jackson on the audience members...? :lol: :p
Mikado
02-03-2008, 06:23 PM
I hope he makes him comback as a tackling dummy :p
Did I miss something, or was M.J. a no-show last night?
There was a Pepsi ad with CGI lizards and someone or another dancing to Thriller, but that was it.
There was a Pepsi ad with CGI lizards and someone or another dancing to Thriller, but that was it.
I saw that commercial.
THAT was the big comeback?
:lol:
Mikado
02-04-2008, 10:17 PM
Micheal Jackson= lizard? Yeah, I CAN see that :rolleyes:
88survivor
02-06-2008, 08:49 AM
Party pooper! No show wannabe! Probably in the room all the time with his plastic obsessions....don't promise something you can't keep, loser.
Austin Tripper
02-06-2008, 09:46 AM
Only one year ago... at the Super Bowl we saw one of the top 3 Super Bowl Halftime Shows! Prince an older artist got a shot to remind everyone why he was respected 25 years ago! Thats what the public wants, if your an older artist you have to come back with some AMAZING ((((Live)))) Performing!
Prince played flawless in a rain storm! His voice was perfect and didnt miss one note on the guitar even though rain was pelting him from every angle!
The Police just had a HUGE COMEBACK! We saw them first at the Rocky Hall performing for the first time in 20 years. They sounded perfect!! Stings voice sounds flawless and the band was on point! Again ((((Live)))) I just saw them - Lead singer from Pink Floyd - Duran Duran all making comebacks at that Green Concert last summer all perfect, on point and of course 100% live.
Now Michael Jackson, I wrote this on another topic, here we have a guy that in his prime, Lip Synced all his major tv appearances, he avoided singing with a broken foot?? .. at the Rock Hall when he was inducted, which is a place EVERYONE sings ((((LIVE)))). Michael pretended he had a broken foot and said "There will be no moonwalking tonight", one of his peers yelled from the audience "SING"!!!
Look at what is set up for this Thriller 25. Nothing is planned for him to actually sing! Everything is anything you can think of that has nothing to do with Singing (((LIVE))) or even rehashing his dance moves from 20 years ago, because we all know he hasnt done anything original even in dancing since the mid 1990's.
Just watch this promotion and wonder why this guy isn't singing live! Wonder also why this guy didnt perform with a live mic for any of his TV performances in his prime. Why? All smoke & mirrors.
The proof is in the pudding and just watch ALL the Thriller 25 Promotion. Then think of all the other older acts and how they sing 100% live, play 100% live.
Here we go... I told anyone that read my post!
Smoke & Mirrors!!
http://www.abcactionnews.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=2969417d-cb24-4683-9143-6cedfcfdcef3
Jackson won't sing at Grammys
Last Update: 2/05 11:42 am
Michael Jackson, November 2006. (Dave Hogan, Getty Images) Pop superstar Michael Jackson will appear at the Grammy Awards on Sunday, but he won't be singing at the ceremony.
Jackson was rumored to be attending the Los Angeles bash to promote a 25th anniversary re-release of his seminal album, Thriller, and organizers were keen for the star to duet on hits from the LP with a number of contemporary performers, including Will.I.Am, Akon, Kanye West and Fergie.
But Jackson, who hasn't performed live in seven years, was reluctant to take on such a big project at short notice.
A source tells the New York Post, "Michael can't go along with that. He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography."
The Post reveals that Grammy producer Ken Ehrlich backed down and consented for Jackson to just appear onstage.
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"A source tells the New York Post, "Michael can't go along with that. He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography."
New Versions of the Song?:rolleyes:
New Choreograhpy?:rolleyes:
Please these stupid songs are 25 years old. The guy hasn't done a new dance move since 1995. He has repeated the same stage show from the mid 1980's.
Again... Hand him a Microphone, Turn it ON and tell him to SING LIVE!!
He wont.
Just watch, ALL the Thriller 25 Promotion, NONE of it will be him performing live.
Dean Winchester
02-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Here we go... I told anyone that read my post!
Smoke & Mirrors!!
http://www.abcactionnews.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=2969417d-cb24-4683-9143-6cedfcfdcef3
Jackson won't sing at Grammys
Last Update: 2/05 11:42 am
Michael Jackson, November 2006. (Dave Hogan, Getty Images) Pop superstar Michael Jackson will appear at the Grammy Awards on Sunday, but he won't be singing at the ceremony.
Jackson was rumored to be attending the Los Angeles bash to promote a 25th anniversary re-release of his seminal album, Thriller, and organizers were keen for the star to duet on hits from the LP with a number of contemporary performers, including Will.I.Am, Akon, Kanye West and Fergie.
But Jackson, who hasn't performed live in seven years, was reluctant to take on such a big project at short notice.
A source tells the New York Post, "Michael can't go along with that. He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography."
The Post reveals that Grammy producer Ken Ehrlich backed down and consented for Jackson to just appear onstage.
=======================================
"A source tells the New York Post, "Michael can't go along with that. He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography."
New Versions of the Song?:rolleyes:
New Choreograhpy?:rolleyes:
Please these stupid songs are 25 years old. The guy hasn't done a new dance move since 1995. He has repeated the same stage show from the mid 1980's.
Again... Hand him a Microphone, Turn it ON and tell him to SING LIVE!!
He wont.
Just watch, ALL the Thriller 25 Promotion, NONE of it will be him performing live.
:clap I swear. He must be the most unprofessional artist in the Hall Of Fame, he's almost as bad as Britney in that sense (cancelling a tour because of a sprained ankle meaning she would have to sing, lipsynching offkey).
Why does performing have to include choreography? Even Madonna, someone who was attacked for lipsynching and using too much choreography for years even now has sections in her shows where she just picks up a guitar, plays and sings.... no relying on dancers or choreography. MJ is going to be 50 this year, why does everything need to rely on dancing when Madonna and Prince are the same age and can put on a LIVE SHOW with instruments? Of all the surviving 80's "icons" (Madonna, Prince, U2, Springsteen, Bon Jovi, etc...), MJ is the only one of the lot who will back out of an important performance over something so frivolous.
I think MJ took a turn for the worse in terms of making performers thinking that choreography is more important than the music. I remember when someone said Britney was more talented than Madonna because she (or at least was in 2001) can dance better... well, when you hear a song on your iPod, you can just hear the dancing, can't you? Choreography can be fun, and MJ's videos were exciting for his dancing, but if you want to see a good dancer, you can see any cheerleading squad. Musical talent is more important than dancing. Why doesn't MJ just walk out onstage and sing his heart out? After all, when you *listen* to Thriller, you hear his singing, not his dance steps.
Dean Winchester
02-06-2008, 04:00 PM
I think part of Michael's phobia about singing live is that his voice has really deteriorated in recent years. You listen to how emotional and rich his voice was on Off The Wall and Thriller and compare it to what you hear on "Blood On The Dance Floor" and it's like two totally different people. But... voices do change, seeing Sting in concert made me realize how much his voice has changed since they heyday of The Police, he no longer can hit the highs he hit so effortlessly back then. The difference is... Sting still sings live and just has the arrangements altered to fit his deeper voice. I haven't heard Phil Collins sing in years but I read the same thing happened on the recent Genesis reunion tour, a lot of songs are performed in different keys now because Phil's voice is deeper than it was in the 80's. I think singing live would make MJ realize he's almost 50 years old, and for someone who wants to be Peter Pan, that's not something he's willing to accept without a fight.
88survivor
02-06-2008, 04:08 PM
At least, those two are singing their hearts out. MJ only cares about himself, not the fans! He has that silly Peter Pan complex since.......forever!
isiahthomas
02-06-2008, 05:39 PM
I wish Michael would sit his old ass, weird ass down. Nobody cares about him anymore. Nobody is interested in hearing new music from him.
Dean Winchester
02-06-2008, 05:44 PM
I wish Michael would sit his old ass, weird ass down. Nobody cares about him anymore. Nobody is interested in hearing new music from him.
:rofl: I think he realizes this, that's why he's rereleasing Thriller with guest appearences with Akon and Kanye West to get back on the charts instead of doing something new.
Ireneparalegal
02-06-2008, 05:46 PM
There was a Pepsi ad with CGI lizards and someone or another dancing to Thriller, but that was it.
Yep. It had Naomi Campbell dancing with some computer-generated lizards dancing THRILLER.
Can't blame MJ for that. Or can we? Did he sit down and agree to the details of the commercial?
88survivor
02-06-2008, 07:34 PM
The funny thing is that MJ is still living in 1984....:crazy: That dude needs to be stopped. :p If that's the new MJ ad, worst freaking ad ever. I prefer the 1984 one over that one, thank you....:p
Dean Winchester
02-06-2008, 08:10 PM
well, the difference between 1984 and 2008 is that kids in 1984 saw the pic below and thought "wow, Michael's all made up to look like a zombie", today's kids would see that and be "wow, Michael Jackson once had dark skin? besides that, not much has changed". :lol:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8498/wormbrainthrillermz7.jpg
88survivor
02-06-2008, 09:59 PM
Something got screwed up in the surgery. Possibly MJ's fault...:rolleyes: yet again. His original intention was to look like Diana Ross, but instead he looked like this woman...That's not Michael...that's Eartha Kitt's stunt double!
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2000/12/06/emp1.jpg http://img.interia.pl/rozrywka/nimg/Michael_Jackson_jacko_589387.jpg
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