Nick at Nite ratings increase

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Nick at Nite targets families
Ratings increase with 'Home', 'Lopez' reruns

"Cyma Zarghami, president of Nickelodeon and Nick at Nite, says the image of the network as "the place for grownups to click on when the kids have gone to bed" is due for an overhaul."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977720.html?categoryId=2522&cs=1

[noveel]

I guess late night's on N@N have become the dumping ground for Stale Prince. They don't seem to care about anything beyond prime time. I think they are trying to turn N@N into an ABC Family like channel. I predict more original family programming on N@N in the future. If only they could add more variety in their overnights.

[Dean Winchester]

screw family programming!!!! seriously. Some of it's not bad but for gods sake, why go the way of The Disney Channel and play kiddie **** all night? Much like how adult programming isn't appropriate when the kids are awake, why play stuff that appeals mostly to 10 year olds at 2 am when only adults are up?

[EmoJoe]

i think the Fresh Prince obsession will end soon enough. they've cut back on it since the summer and i have a feeling pretty soon George Lopez and/or Home Improvement will be the new FP.

[noveel]

i think the Fresh Prince obsession will end soon enough. they've cut back on it since the summer and i have a feeling pretty soon George Lopez and/or Home Improvement will be the new FP.

When was the last time they had a prime time (or at least before midnight) Stale Prince marathon? I don't think since HI Or GL joined the lineup. I think FP will be gone (except for late night) when Family Matters comes. They could at least show Cosby and Roseanne after the kids have gone to bed. Do kids have later bedtimes now?

[jayman75]

Whatever happened to the good ole days of Nick at Nite?


The Lucy Show
Laugh-In
My Three Sons
ANYTHING besides late 80s/90s sitcoms


I don't watch N@N anymore. It's lame. I want some shows that aren't available anywhere else.

[JulieSomoski]

Whatever happened to the good ole days of Nick at Nite?


The Lucy Show
Laugh-In
My Three Sons
ANYTHING besides late 80s/90s sitcoms


I don't watch N@N anymore. It's lame. I want some shows that aren't available anywhere else.

I'm with you. Sure, thewy got a ratings increase, but by how much?

And yeah, latenight is nothing but a Fresh Prince dumping ground. It's not doing as well as Home Improvement and George Lopez, but it's done better than Roseanne and Cosby, so they air it all night starting at 11pm-LOL.

But, sticking up for NAN here, this is what happens when they give shows a chance. Instead of yeanking them off the lineup after 3 weeks, they stuck with them, and now they're doing well. Makes me wonder if that wouldhave happened if they stuck with their other shows they yanked off.

I could still see Fresh Prince on when Family Matters comes around. At this point, I'm not sure where it's gonna fit in the lineup if HI and GL are doing so god damn well, but FP will still be around.

[JulieSomoski]

Nick at Nite targets families
Ratings increase with 'Home', 'Lopez' reruns

"Cyma Zarghami, president of Nickelodeon and Nick at Nite, says the image of the network as "the place for grownups to click on when the kids have gone to bed" is due for an overhaul."

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977720.html?categoryId=2522&cs=1

Okay, I read the article. First off, do they mean overall as in they're going to hvae an overall, or this is the overall???

Also, I can't stand how they say Roseanne and Fresh Prince have been dragging down their lineup. It wasn't those 2 shows that did it, it was the programming choices to air these 2 shows all night that did it. And to think, when they're ratings are a record high in a long time when they're airing the lowest amount of shows ever on their schedule, that's just sad.

How much better can Home Improvement, George Lopez, and Fresh Prince reruns do compared to Roseanne and Cosby rerusn? That's what I'd like to know.

[Pavan]

The article clearly said George Lopez is doing much better than what aired in November 2006 at 10pm...which I think was Roseanne. I told you all before it even started that George would do well. Home Improvement is also doing well, but not as well as George. While Fresh Prince is delivering in post-primetime. These 3 shows ARE Nick at Nite now (with an episode of Full House starting it off). Beats just Roseanne and Fresh Prince with a taste of Cosby Show of last year.

[Brent88]

Family Matters is coming in March, right? YAY for airing the episodes out of order and changing it's timeslot every week. :rolleyes: On the plus side, maybe we'll actually see the closing credits.

[TVFactFan]

Glad GL is doing well since I'm really getting into the show. So far only ONL:Y ONE BAD ep for GL

[Dean Winchester]

of course GL and HI are doing better now than Roseanne and Cosby did after 3-4 years on the network.

Personally, I'd say what N@N is today is a bigger "hell" than it was last year because at least I can watch Roseanne and Cosby Show.

I wish N@N would go back to the way they were before they started all the "superstar acquisitions", showing 10-15 shows a night and nothing aired more than twice. I don't like FP, HI or GL so I haven't had any desire to watch the channel in months

[TVFactFan]

of course GL and HI are doing better now than Roseanne and Cosby did after 3-4 years on the network.

Personally, I'd say what N@N is today is a bigger "hell" than it was last year because at least I can watch Roseanne and Cosby Show.

I wish N@N would go back to the way they were before they started all the "superstar acquisitions", showing 10-15 shows a night and nothing aired more than twice. I don't like FP, HI or GL so I haven't had any desire to watch the channel in months



So have you given those a fair a chance??

[Dean Winchester]

So have you given those a fair a chance??
I watched FP and HI in their original runs and wasn't crazy about them then. Lopez is WAY too recent for N@N. 90's shows are recent enough, much less a show that premiered in 2002

[friendsfan77]

I remember the times when I watched Fresh Prince (along with Blossom) religiously on NBC in the original run along with watching it in reruns for a while, I don't like it as much as I did when I was little, but I can still enjoy it in small does. But I'm just sick of it on N@N. They have the gall to blame the shows themselves for dragging the networks down but it's their own fault for airing FP, Roseanne, and other shows umpteen times every night with non-stop marathons. What they don't get is that marathons are fine every once in a while, but having them consistently for the mere hell of it takes the fun out of the concept. Networks and companies need to realize that fans of the respective shows that air endlessly enjoy more shows than just the same few over and over.

I don't even like Family Matters anymore, but regardless if I like it or not, I can see it becoming a huge success on N@N and it'll be rerun to death.

I don't even mind the concept of '80's/'90's sitcoms airing on N@N. That's not what bothers me in the slightest. They just need variety and to stop competing with themselves. It's like every show that didn't do as well as FP or Roseanne wound up getting the 5 am timeslot and then soon after got the shaft. I'm sick of networks thinking about the almighty dollar more than a good variety of shows airing each night. I fail to believe they'll go broke if they stick to a well-balanced lineup of shows where every series gets the amount of respect and airtime they deserve instead of one, two, or three overpowering the rest. Variety and a real schedule worked for so many years, why quit now?

[JulieSomoski]

The article clearly said George Lopez is doing much better than what aired in November 2006 at 10pm...which I think was Roseanne. I told you all before it even started that George would do well. Home Improvement is also doing well, but not as well as George. While Fresh Prince is delivering in post-primetime. These 3 shows ARE Nick at Nite now (with an episode of Full House starting it off). Beats just Roseanne and Fresh Prince with a taste of Cosby Show of last year.

Sure those 3 shows do well, but do they have to air all night? I actually enjoyed it more when we were getting all that variety past 3pm . . . I'm actually DYING to have that back. At least then we could get more than 3 shows each night.

Pavan, do you know what Roseanne was doing in ratings around the time it last aired in primetime, maybe compared to Home Improvement or George Lopez?

[Pavan]

George Lopez is up 46% in adults 18-49 and up 32% in total viewers at 10-11PM in November compared with the same period last year when Roseanne aired at 10-11PM.

Home Improvement is up 25% in the 18-49 demo and 17% in total viewers compared with the same period last year when Full House aired at 9-10PM.

[ilovethe80s]

I think it's good Home Improvement and George Lopez are doing well. My parents like Home Improvement. I think if these shows are doing well i wonder what other shows they are considering i can think of a lot of similar type shows but they are on other networks as well now. I think 8 Simple Rules would work well on Nick At Nite i know it's already on ABC Family i also think Reba could work well but it's on Lifetime as well. I'm also surprised they haven't picked up According to Jim i would consider that a family type show but maybe they will in the future. I was just saying that since they were saying in the article that these types of shows are giving them good ratings. I also don't agree though that little children should be staying up so late though because they have school and all.

[Dean Winchester]

George Lopez is up 46% in adults 18-49 and up 32% in total viewers at 10-11PM in November compared with the same period last year when Roseanne aired at 10-11PM.

Home Improvement is up 25% in the 18-49 demo and 17% in total viewers compared with the same period last year when Full House aired at 9-10PM.
not truly a fair comparison though since Roseanne and Full House had been on N@N since Sept 2003 and were both on their 30th (at least) cycle by that time, while HI and GL are still fresh shows on the network

I think rerun abuse is always a bad thing. Nick shouldn't just devote nine hours a night to three shows when they easily could air nine shows twice a night, and even more than that if they shoved more lesser-hit shows in the late night.

[JulieSomoski]

not truly a fair comparison though since Roseanne and Full House had been on N@N since Sept 2003 and were both on their 30th (at least) cycle by that time, while HI and GL are still fresh shows on the network

I think rerun abuse is always a bad thing. Nick shouldn't just devote nine hours a night to three shows when they easily could air nine shows twice a night, and even more than that if they shoved more lesser-hit shows in the late night.

That's a good point. pavan, have any ratings info for Roseanne in November 2003 compared to George Lopez and Home Improvement November 2007?

[Pavan]

I don't have numbers for 2003. But I know I have never seen Roseanne in the top 10 for cable primetime in 18-49 ever. George Lopez has been there so many times already. Among total viewers, I know Roseanne did well, but I still think George is doing more now than Roseanne did in 2003.

[noveel]

FP is will probably be gone after the contract expires next year or the year ago. They seem to be slowly phasing it out. They haven't had a primetime FP marathon in since probably last summer. Nick@Nite will soon be the Urkel@Nite I predict.

The old Nick@Nite has been dead for quite a while. Networks want stuff that can produce ratings in a short period. They have little patience.

[Overdose]

Here is an old article clip:

"NEW YORK, Oct. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- More than 33 million cumulative viewers tuned into Nick at Nite last week to watch the network's week-long marathon launch of Roseanne, one of the most talked about and popular sitcoms in television history."
Source: http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-3175231_ITM

When "Roseanne" was first on Nick at Nite it was huge, attracting 33 million viewers in a week's time. "Roseanne" continued to be successful, until Nick at Nite overplayed it (alongside few other shows, giving viewers littler variety). If they do the same with "Home Improvement" and "George Lopez", they'll encounter the same problems they had with "Roseanne" and other shows.

Let's face it. The shows themselves aren't the problem, the station is the problem.

PS: "Roseanne" = best show ever ;)

[JulieSomoski]

Here is an old article clip:



When "Roseanne" was first on Nick at Nite it was huge, attracting 33 million viewers in a week's time. "Roseanne" continued to be successful, until Nick at Nite overplayed it (alongside few other shows, giving viewers littler variety). If they do the same with "Home Improvement" and "George Lopez", they'll encounter the same problems they had with "Roseanne" and other shows.

Let's face it. The shows themselves aren't the problem, the station is the problem.

PS: "Roseanne" = best show ever ;)

Thanks for digging this up . . . I'm sure Roseanne would still be a hit on the network if they stuck to airing it at the most 4 times a night. But they didn't, and now it's nowhere to be seen. I believe at the time, Roseanne was the biggest premiere hit on the network (until FP came along), but overplaying killed it.

If you read NAN's last article, you'd see that they probably won't be overplaying these shows. They understand their mistakes, and there is noway they're gonna make the same mistake with HI and GL.

[TVFactFan]

Thanks for digging this up . . . I'm sure Roseanne would still be a hit on the network if they stuck to airing it at the most 4 times a night. But they didn't, and now it's nowhere to be seen. I believe at the time, Roseanne was the biggest premiere hit on the network (until FP came along), but overplaying killed it.

If you read NAN's last article, you'd see that they probably won't be overplaying these shows. They understand their mistakes, and there is noway they're gonna make the same mistake with HI and GL.


The bottom line is at some point shows will disappear of a cable's station tv station schedule and new ones will be added. I'm sure that GL will be gone at some point in the future and replaced by another show which is just life in the world of cable.

[EmoJoe]

i think Fresh Prince will eventually get The Cosby Show/Roseanne syndrome...whereas all of the sudden it goes from dominating the line-up to only airing once or twice a night. and i think that day is coming soon because they definitely do seem to be phasing it out. it still airs a lot, but not nearly as much as it did this time last year.

[JulieSomoski]

The bottom line is at some point shows will disappear of a cable's station tv station schedule and new ones will be added. I'm sure that GL will be gone at some point in the future and replaced by another show which is just life in the world of cable.

I understand that, but the point is, if Nick at Nite hadn't run it into the ground, it would have still bee doing well on the network. It's a wonder why NAN's ratings haven't been good in months.

[EmoJoe]

Nick@Nite is seriously just a total mess of a network, lol...and it has been for like 5 years now.

[chris31989]

You really can't call NAN a network. It really is an extension of Nickelodeon.

Anyway, I really hope NAN knows their mistake and cleans up their act. I haven't watched the network in about a year. I rather like Roseanne and Cosby and they are hardly airing both anymore. The problem is they overplayed the shows so much for a long time and I got sick of them, and now I want to see them again and they no longer overplay them. When they did, people complained about how sick they were of the shows and it really did make Roseanne and Cosby look bad.

I can't wait for Family Matters. How ever they air the shows and when, I'm just happy that it will be on NAN regardless.

Blossom would be a good addition to the line-up as well. Why isn't any network picking up that show. Just as a previous poster mentioned, Blossom and FP aired together on NBC, keep both shows at two episodes a night.

[Pavan]

Blossom has been seldom seen. It would be a good pick-up, but given its syndication history, which was not a good one, we won't see it.

[TVFactFan]

Blossom has been seldom seen. It would be a good pick-up, but given its syndication history, which was not a good one, we won't see it.


Blossom desn't have enough seasons I think to be on N@N. More suited for local syndication

[ilovethe80s]

Blossom desn't have enough seasons I think to be on N@N. More suited for local syndication

Blossom had 5 seasons. I'd love to see Blossom again but i guess it has done bad in syndication. The last time i remember seeing it was in the 90's I think locally it was on WSBK. I think Blossom would do well though because a lot of people still remember this show and I think they did a True Hollywood Story on Blossom not that long ago. I'm surprised no channel is running it because it's not on DVD yet.