Ike Turner has died.

[Brad]

Developing.

[catlover79]

Wow, that's kind of creepy given the recent poll Wai posted.

[Brad]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22221396/

[Dean Winchester]

well, I wasn't a fan of him as a person but as a musician, he was very talented (and a lot of people do forget he was one of the forefathers of rock and roll in the early 50's) and he gave the world one of the greatest performers it will ever know with Tina.

It's easy to rip him apart over everything we know but now's not the time, and instead hope he RIP's.

[Zoneboy]

SAN DIEGO - Ike Turner, whose role as one of rock's critical architects was overshadowed by his ogrelike image as the man who brutally abused former wife and icon Tina Turner, died Wednesday at his home in suburban San Diego. He was 76.



"He did pass away this morning" at his home in San Marcos, in northern San Diego County, said Scott M. Hanover of Thrill Entertainment Group, which managed Turner's musical career.

There was no immediate word on the cause of death, which was first reported by celebrity Web site TMZ.com.

Turner managed to rehabilitate his image somewhat in his later years, touring around the globe with his band the Kings of Rhythm and drawing critical acclaim for his work. He won a Grammy in 2007 in the traditional blues album category for "Risin' With the Blues."

But his image is forever identified as the drug-addicted, wife-abusing husband of Tina Turner. He was hauntingly portrayed by Laurence Fishburne in the movie "What's Love Got To Do With It," based on Tina Turner's autobiography.

In a 2001 interview with The Associated Press, Turner denied his ex-wife's claims of abuse and expressed frustration that he had been demonized in the media, adding that his historic role in rock's beginnings had been ignored.

"You can go ask Snoop Dogg or Eminem, you can ask the Rolling Stones or (Eric) Clapton, or you can ask anybody — anybody, they all know my contribution to music, but it hasn't been in print about what I've done or what I've contributed until now," he said.

Turner, a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, is credited by many rock historians with making the first rock 'n' roll record, "Rocket 88," in 1951. Produced by the legendary Sam Phillips, it was groundbreaking for its use of distorted electric guitar.

But as would be the case for most of his career, Turner, a prolific session guitarist and piano player, was not the star on the record — it was recorded with Turner's band but credited to singer Jackie Brenston.

And it would be another singer — a young woman named Anna Mae Bullock — who would bring Turner his greatest fame, and infamy.

Turner met the 18-year-old Bullock, whom he would later marry, in 1959 and quickly made the husky-voiced singer the lead singer of his group, refashioning her into the sexy Tina Turner. Her stage persona was highlighted by short skirts and stiletto heels that made her legs her most visible asset. But despite the glamorous image, she still sang with the grit and fervor of a rock singer with a twist of soul.

The pair would have two sons. They also produced a string of hits. The first, "A Fool In Love," was a top R&B song in 1959, and others followed, including "I Idolize You" and "It's Gonna Work Out Fine."

But over the years they're genre-defying sound would make them favorites on the rock 'n' roll scene, as they opened for acts like the Rolling Stones.

The densely layered hit "River Deep, Mountain High" was one of producer Phil Spector's proudest creations. A rousing version of "Proud Mary," a cover of the Creedence Clearwater Revival hit, became their signature song and won them a Grammy for best R&B vocal performance by a group.

[isiahthomas]

I hate to see anybody die but i hate Ike for beating up Tina Turner. I wish Tina hadn't stayed with him so long and taken that abuse. She was scared of him and i know that's why she was afraid to leave him. LOL@scene in Tina Turner movie when Angela Bassett and Larry Fishburne were fighting in the limo and Angela was beating his ass hahahahahahahaha. Angela said is that all you got? LOL. Then they were walking through the hotel lobby all bloody and limping LOL.

[Dean Winchester]

from TMZ

Tina Turner's rep issued the following statement about the death of the music legend's former husband Ike.

"Tina is aware that Ike passed away earlier today," the rep told TMZ. "She has not had any contact with him in 35 years. No further comment will be made."

[Dean Winchester]

35 years seems a little liberal and far-fetched considering they split up in 76-77, and according to the biopic, Ike did once try to scare Tina backstage at a concert in the 1980's when she was working her way back up the charts.

I hope Ike found peace and had his life straightened out in his latter years after he got out of jail. He really was a talented musician and the world is grateful for him discovering Tina, but his inner demons and the sort completely ruined him and he has an image that will never be redeemed because he was absolutely evil to Tina, and it shows what a strong woman she was that she finally had the ability to fight back and walk away, willing to return to nothing without him.

[Mikado]

Wow, that's kind of creepy given the recent poll Wai posted.I was thinking that too....well, I like Tina's comment, none....works for me.

[waichingliu81]

35 years seems a little liberal and far-fetched considering they split up in 76-77, and according to the biopic, Ike did once try to scare Tina backstage at a concert in the 1980's when she was working her way back up the charts.

I hope Ike found peace and had his life straightened out in his latter years after he got out of jail. He really was a talented musician and the world is grateful for him discovering Tina, but his inner demons and the sort completely ruined him and he has an image that will never be redeemed because he was absolutely evil to Tina, and it shows what a strong woman she was that she finally had the ability to fight back and walk away, willing to return to nothing without him.

well, i think that guy was a total bastard. he deserves to rot in hell. i hate men who beat up women and people who abuse children:mad: . they don't get any sympathy from me. if he had to die, then i'd rather he'd been shot, stabbed, whatever. even though i dislike violence but ike subjected tina on countless occassions of physical and emotional abuse that the most he deserved was payback.

[waichingliu81]

Wow, that's kind of creepy given the recent poll Wai posted.

i had only found out this morning on one of the websites that he had died and so, i was somewhat surprised by this news just as much as you guys

[MrCleveland]

I'm sorry but Ike was a p***k. I hope he gets judged against his wrongdoings.

[TVFactFan]

I don't know if some of you knew this but you are only supposed to talk bad about someone when they are alive, not when you heard they have passed.


some of yall on here have serious mental issues

[Family Fan]

Yes, he did make some good music with Tina, but, Ike was a bad man. Also, 76? Wow, everything this guy did to himself and others and he almost made it to 80? I had a wonderful aunt, the nicest person in the world, she died at 58, proving that what kind of person you are has nothing to do with how long you live. I hope he at least made peace with his past before going. :(

[Family Fan]

I don't know if some of you knew this but you are only supposed to talk bad about someone when they are alive, not when you heard they have passed.


some of yall on here have serious mental issues

I know it, but, Ike knew and heard what people were saying when he was alive. I think he had serious mental issues, and he aknowledged it. It's why it's good to be nice when your alive, cause people will remember you by your works and deeds. Hope he made peace at the end with his past.

[MrCleveland]

I know it, but, Ike knew and heard what people were saying when he was alive. I think he had serious mental issues, and he aknowledged it. It's why it's good to be nice when your alive, cause people will remember you by your works and deeds. Hope he made peace at the end with his past.

I know this isn't the Religion Forum but...if he was a believer, then I will have second-thoughts with him.

[Ireneparalegal]

Ike has died and what he did and what he was his now in the hands of a higher power.

Ike was what he was and Tina left him. Good for her. Unfortunately the man continued to do cocaine. His lady friend commented on the news yesterday that he had his demons and he continued to use cocaine which caused him to explode. She admits he had his anger problem and she seen it first hand.

I had only hoped the man would have gotten help.

R.I.P. Ike.

[catlover79]

^ Well said, Irene!

[Dean Winchester]

I don't know if some of you knew this but you are only supposed to talk bad about someone when they are alive, not when you heard they have passed.

you do know who Ike Turner is, correct? Even his own ex-wife isn't publically rushing to mourn his passing, and why should she after the years of torture and hell he put her through? Rent "What's Love Got To Do With It" sometime.

I hope Ike found peace and salvation before he left the earth but his image was not exactly that of a good man

[freshprinceofLA]

Ike was a total D*CK but his music was great. I really don't know how to feel about his passing I don't feel happy or sad. And yes the man really needed some help.

[coffield3]

R.I.P......not, i hated that guy with a passion!

[isiahthomas]

Solomon why should we feel sympathy for Ike dying? The man was a abusive ******* and i hated the way he abused Tina because she didn't deserve that. I don't have any sympathy for his death. I hate people who beat up people for no reason.

[Dean Winchester]

Solomon why should we feel sympathy for Ike dying? The man was a abusive ******* and i hated the way he abused Tina because she didn't deserve that. I don't have any sympathy for his death. I hate people who beat up people for no reason.
I agree. A lot of times it's really in poor taste to attack someone who just died but Ike constantly beat the **** out of his wife for 15 years and showed absolutely no remourse over it. He was a smug ******* and I haven't seen any signs that he turned his life around in his later years

[TJL]

Apparently the only thing Ike wasn't able to beat was death.

Yeah, that's probably in poor taste.

;)

[TVFactFan]

Solomon why should we feel sympathy for Ike dying? The man was a abusive ******* and i hated the way he abused Tina because she didn't deserve that. I don't have any sympathy for his death. I hate people who beat up people for no reason.


I didn't say you should be SAD, just not talk bad about someone who passed way. Like My cousin's boyfriend was killed I never said one bad thing about him even though I hated the ground he walked on when he was alive

[TVFactFan]

Apparently the only thing Ike wasn't able to beat was death.

Yeah, that's probably in poor taste.

;)



I will make sure I say the same about you when it's your time to go

[coffield3]

I will make sure I say the same about you when it's your time to go

Come on Solomon, this man was just awful.

[TVFactFan]

Common Solomon, this man was just awful.


That maybe true but I just dont have it in me to talk bad about a dead person

[Dean Winchester]

I will make sure I say the same about you when it's your time to go
has TJL ever beaten his wife, and then stalked her after divorce and even held her at gunpoint once hoping to get her to come back to him? I don't think so

[TJL]

I will make sure I say the same about you when it's your time to go


Yeah, because I beat women. And the only thing I couldn't beat besides women was death. Like Ike Turner.

You're a ****ing moron.

[coffield3]

That maybe true but I just dont have it in me to talk bad about a dead person

Yes, but he's not just a regular dead person is he? he did bad things.

[TVFactFan]

Yeah, because I beat women. And the only thing I couldn't beat besides women was death. Like Ike Turner.

You're a ****ing moron.


And you are on medication.

[Dean Winchester]

That maybe true but I just dont have it in me to talk bad about a dead person
maybe that's you. But you seriously need to rent "What's Love Got To Do With It" and you'll understand why remorse isn't the first thing that comes to mind over his passing. People talked trash about Saddam Hussein after he died, and to an extent, a lot of people also did the same towards Jerry Falwell (not trying to cause controversy here. I did not like Falwell one bit, but I am stating that a lot of people bashed him after he died instead of mourned him, I realize him and Saddam cannot be compared, but they are both fairly recent deaths). Ike Turner is another figure that was reviled by a lot of people and people who weren't fans of his weren't crying over his death. Ike was a very talented musician and he has never fully been given his due for helping create rock music in the early 50's, but everything that went down with him and Tina turned his image from that of rock pioneer to evil ogre villian.

[TVFactFan]

maybe that's you. But you seriously need to rent "What's Love Got To Do With It" and you'll understand why remorse isn't the first thing that comes to mind over his passing. People talked trash about Saddam Hussein after he died, and to an extent, a lot of people also did the same towards Jerry Falwell (not trying to cause controversy here. I did not like Falwell one bit, but I am stating that a lot of people bashed him after he died instead of mourned him, I realize him and Saddam cannot be compared, but they are both fairly recent deaths). Ike Turner is another figure that was reviled by a lot of people and people who weren't fans of his weren't crying over his death. Ike was a very talented musician and he has never fully been given his due for helping create rock music in the early 50's, but everything that went down with him and Tina turned his image from that of rock pioneer to evil ogre villian.


I never said anything about mourning his death, I'm just saying to celebrate his passing is crazy

[GARFIELDKOOL]

You know, I usually don't agree with Solomon on too much of anything, but he has a point. Ike Turner has died, and I think it is disrepectable to bash ANYONE in death. Yes, the man was a bad person, and he had no right beating Tina all those years, but some of you need to show a little respect for human life. Sad to say, despite the music the man made with Tina, he his best known for being the woman beater. The original poster started this thread so people could post their sympathies. I personally didn't care for Ike myself, but let me post here and offer my condolences. I am not religious, but i was taught that if anyone speaks on the dead in a bad way, they are going to hell. I really don't know, but that's how I was brought up. I couldn't stand my mother's ex-boyfriend, we never got along, but when he got killed years ago, I was right there mourning his death with everyone else. I guess my point is, some of you need to show a little bit of class here because a man had just died.

[TVFactFan]

You know, I usually don't agree with Solomon on too much of anything, but he has a point. Ike Turner has died, and I think it is disrepectable to bash ANYONE in death. Yes, the man was a bad person, and he had no right beating Tina all those years, but some of you need to show a little respect for human life. Sad to say, despite the music the man made with Tina, he his best known for beuing the woman beater. The original poster started this thread so people could post their sympathies. I personally didn't care for Ike myself, but let me post here and offer my condolences. I am not religious, but i was taught that if anyone speaks on the dead in a bad way, they are going to hell. I really don't know, but that's how I was brought up. I couldn't stand my mother's ex-boyfriend, we never got along, but when he got killed years ago, I was right there mourning his death with everyone else. I guess my point is, some of you need to show a little bit of class here because a man had just died.


Well said

[Dean Winchester]

You know, I usually don't agree with Solomon on too much of anything, but he has a point. Ike Turner has died, and I think it is disrepectable to bash ANYONE in death. Yes, the man was a bad person, and he had no right beating Tina all those years, but some of you need to show a little respect for human life. Sad to say, despite the music the man made with Tina, he his best known for beuing the woman beater. The original poster started this thread so people could post their sympathies. I personally didn't care for Ike myself, but let me post here and offer my condolences. I am not religious, but i was taught that if anyone speaks on the dead in a bad way, they are going to hell. I really don't know, but that's how I was brought up. I couldn't stand my mother's ex-boyfriend, we never got along, but when he got killed years ago, I was right there mourning his death with everyone else. I guess my point is, some of you need to show a little bit of class here because a man had just died.
well, I do think there's a difference between "I don't like what the man did but I hope he found peace and salvation before he died" like what myself and a lot of other people said, and "good riddance you piece of ****!!!" (there are some boards where I have seen that very thing). There's only been one or two posters who said the latter, most people have said something more along the lines of the former. Tina herself has refused to comment and give Ike any justification or mention, and that speaks volumes.

[Janice]

Please stop the personal insults. I never dance on anyone's grave, unless it's someone like a dictator who slaughtered people, like Saddam. If I don't like a person who died, I just ignored that thread. It is tacky, in my opinion anyway.

[Janice]

Tina herself has refused to comment and give Ike any justification or mention, and that speaks volumes.
It tells me she's got class. Like you said in your first post on this thread, now is not the time. Some people were crapping in Anna Nicole's death thread. Lousy.

[coffield3]

I was sad when Anna nicole died. End of.

[OH Nuts!]

It tells me she's got class. Like you said in your first post on this thread, now is not the time. Some people were crapping in Anna Nicole's death thread. Lousy.

Tina IS a classy lady and I love her to pieces. I'm gonna try and channel some of her class and not say anything unkind about I.T.--but I admit it's a challenge; thank God no one can hear what I'm thinking.

[waichingliu81]

You know, I usually don't agree with Solomon on too much of anything, but he has a point. Ike Turner has died, and I think it is disrepectable to bash ANYONE in death. Yes, the man was a bad person, and he had no right beating Tina all those years, but some of you need to show a little respect for human life. Sad to say, despite the music the man made with Tina, he his best known for being the woman beater. The original poster started this thread so people could post their sympathies. I personally didn't care for Ike myself, but let me post here and offer my condolences. I am not religious, but i was taught that if anyone speaks on the dead in a bad way, they are going to hell. I really don't know, but that's how I was brought up. I couldn't stand my mother's ex-boyfriend, we never got along, but when he got killed years ago, I was right there mourning his death with everyone else. I guess my point is, some of you need to show a little bit of class here because a man had just died.

i disagree to some extent with this. you stated that it is disrespectful of us to bash anyone when they die, well what about saddam hussein, who is now dead? or those bombers who flew those jets into the twin towers on 9/11 6 years ago and of whom killed hundreds of americans that fateful day? they are dead too. and so is it disrespectful of us folks to feel sympathy for these types of people? of course not.

ike turner may be have been a human being, such a shame though that he acted like an animal by abusing and hurting tina, both physically and emotionally

[waichingliu81]

I will make sure I say the same about you when it's your time to go

now THAT is an awful thing for a person to say

[Dean Winchester]

While I am no fan of Ike, I will admit that I am grateful to him for discovering and shaping Tina Turner into the woman and performer she is today (taking the abuse aside, it's known that Ike really showed Tina the ropes of performing and how to command the audience, etc....). I have been a fan of Tina's since I was a kid in the 80's (I received Private Dancer on cassette as a gift when I was five years old) and had the priviledge to see her in 2000 on her farewell tour, and she was one of the two best live performers I've ever seen (the other being Prince). I hate Ike's actions and think he was one of the worst svengalis the music industry will ever know, but the fact that he plucked Anna Mae Bullock out of obscurity and rechristened her Tina Turner is something that he should be commended for... even tho he should've known how to treat and respect a woman.

[Janice]

i disagree to some extent with this. you stated that it is disrespectful of us to bash anyone when they die, well what about saddam hussein, who is now dead? or those bombers who flew those jets into the twin towers on 9/11 6 years ago and of whom killed hundreds of americans that fateful day? they are dead too. and so is it disrespectful of us folks to feel sympathy for these types of people? of course not.

ike turner may be have been a human being, such a shame though that he acted like an animal by abusing and hurting tina, both physically and emotionally
To compare Ike Turner to Saddam Hussein or the terrorists responsible for 9/11 is ridiculous. Ike was no saint, but let's get some perspective here.

[Stuck In The '70's]

You know, I usually don't agree with Solomon on too much of anything, but he has a point. Ike Turner has died, and I think it is disrepectable to bash ANYONE in death. Yes, the man was a bad person, and he had no right beating Tina all those years, but some of you need to show a little respect for human life. Sad to say, despite the music the man made with Tina, he his best known for being the woman beater. The original poster started this thread so people could post their sympathies. I personally didn't care for Ike myself, but let me post here and offer my condolences. I am not religious, but i was taught that if anyone speaks on the dead in a bad way, they are going to hell. I really don't know, but that's how I was brought up. I couldn't stand my mother's ex-boyfriend, we never got along, but when he got killed years ago, I was right there mourning his death with everyone else. I guess my point is, some of you need to show a little bit of class here because a man had just died.
I totally agree. It's just in bad taste to trash someone when they've just died. If I see a thread of a person who died that I don't like then I just stay out of it. Anyway I also offer my condolences and hope he's finally found peace.

[Stuck In The '70's]

To compare Ike Turner to Saddam Hussein or the terrorists responsible for 9/11 is ridiculous. Ike was no saint, but let's get some perspective here.
I agree. You cannot compare Ike Turner to a bunch of Mass Murderers. :ohno:

[Janice]

To be clear, the only time trashing a person who just died is off limits is when there'e a political edge to it. It happened with Jerry Falwell, and I think Ronald Reagan (not sure). If a prominent liberal died, I would issue the same warning. Otherwise, I would be accused of having a political bias.

When a celebrity dies, members can trash away, if that's their thing. As I stated, my opinion is that it's lousy, but I wouldn't issue a warning to stop it.

[Dean Winchester]

I agree with Janice and Sonny. Ike can't be compared to Saddam and the 9-11 hijackers. I do believe he's having to answer for what he did to Tina though.

I always thought Ike should've publically apologized for everything that happened and maybe tried to make things right with Tina (no, I am not suggesting they should've gotten back together, I meant atoning for the past and everything). Keep in mind that Ike wasn't just Tina's ex-husband, but the father of her children. Although at least according to the movie, it looked like his sons wanted nothing to do with Ike after the split, and I guess I can't blame them, but nonetheless, he not only lost a wife because of his temper, but several children who saw him hit their mother for years and wanted nothing to do with him.

[Janice]

now THAT is an awful thing for a person to say
Which is why I issued a warning to stop the personal attacks.

[Dean Winchester]

To be clear, the only time trashing a person who just died is off limits is when there'e a political edge to it. It happened with Jerry Falwell, and I think Ronald Reagan (not sure). If a prominent liberal died, I would issue the same warning. Otherwise, I would be accused of having a political bias.

When a celebrity dies, members can trash away, if that's their thing. As I stated, my opinion is that it's lousy, but I wouldn't issue a warning to stop it.
I agree. I am the first person to admit I was no fan of Falwell's and I wasn't the slightest bit upset with his passing, but I did think people like Bill Maher took celebrating his death a little too far. It wasn't the time or place to say some of the things people said right after he died.

[Dean Winchester]

Awkward goodbyes for Ike Turner

December 13, 2007 | 11:14 AM

Awkward eulogies: Ike Turner's death yesterday has posed an uncomfortable dilemma for many publications: How, without being condescending, do you eulogize a man infamous for beating his wife?

Here's a representative smattering of ledes published today:

• Ike Turner, a music legend who paired up with Tina Turner in St. Louis to form a superstar duo, then saw his reputation tarnished by his portrayal as a domineering abuser in a movie about her life, died Wednesday (Dec. 12, 2007) at his home near San Diego.

• The American musician Ike Turner has died at the age of 76. Turner was known as one of the architects of rock and roll music. But he will be best remembered for his musical and personal relationship with singer Tina Turner who accused him of subjecting her to years of abuse.

• Ike Turner, best remembered for his successful musical partnership and violently abusive marriage to singer Tina Turner, has died at home in California, his manager said Wednesday. He was 76.

• Ike Turner, whose role as one of rock's critical architects was overshadowed by his ogrelike image as the man who brutally abused former wife Tina Turner, died Wednesday at 76.

Yikes. So, in short, most intros read like this: "Orgelike Ike Turner, who brutally abused Tina Turner for years, died in his sleep Wednesday. He played rock music, but is best known as a monster. He was 76."

As is often the case, the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/arts/music/13turner.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=arts) was the most tasteful. Their eulogy spends more time outlining his musical career than it does dwelling on the abuse allegations. Without sugarcoating his image, the article even concludes on a note of minor triumph, describing Turner's late-life activities, and his recent Grammy.

[Jo_Luvs_Ketchup]

I don't think anyone should praise his death, but I also don't think he was a good man. Anyone who says "One of two things happen when you hit a woman. Either she heads for the door or she's all yours." has problems. I don't think it's fair to compare him to Saddam, but having to deal with years of family domestic violence, I do not mourn someone like that and anyone else who feels this way, does not have mental issues.

[Ireneparalegal]

Some of you already know I dealt with domestic violence in my first marriage. I can honestly say in my heart of hearts, I found forgiveness with my ex-husband two years after I divorced him and on his death bed in 2006, we spoke by phone and he asked (again) for forgiveness. I went to his funeral and cried. I cried for the father of my children and the happy times we had. I cried for the changes he made in his life. Even if he hadn't changed his ways, I still would have cried because he was the person I chose to be with and have children with. Forgiveness doesn't mean you are telling that person, "It is ok what you did." It merely means, I forgive you and I can move on now and not have hate in my heart. It is a great feeling.

Ike never admitted he beat Tina, broke her nose, shattered her self-esteem, etc. but what he has done in private is between him and God. Tina moved on and remains a class act. I am sure in her heart she forgave him a long time ago. I hate the fact that Ike was abusive, I am most definitely sure his drug use was the factor behind that anger. Had he just given up that habit by entering rehab, he could have then opened up and admitted to the world, "Yes, I did do those things to Tina." But he never changed. The man has died and he left behind a musical legacy, not only Tina Turner, but the music he made before her and the role he played in launching rock-and-roll. It is not for us to forgive him, that is for those people in his life to do that.

[isiahthomas]

I don't know why some of ya'll are defending Ike. I don't like what the man did to Tina so therefore i don't have sympathy for his death and i'm not changing my opinion about it because some of ya'll don't agree that it's not cool to diss dead people. Ike was a punk and i call him a punk because men that hit women are punks. I bet you his b*tch ass wouldn't hit a man. I read a article in Jet magazine about his death and Tina Turner said she didn't like the way he was portrayed in Tina Turner movie. I seriously doubt that Ike wasn't like the way he was portrayed in the movie. The dude was a a*shole and i don't think the movie director would make him look like a a*shole on purpose in the movie. I don't care what his contributions was to rock and roll. He was a woman beater, womanizer and a drug addict and i have no respect for men that are like that. Tina is a nice woman and she didn't deserve to get beaten by his b*tch ass. I remember a scene in the movie when Larry Fishburne threatened Angela Bassett in her dressing room near the end of the movie that he was gonna kill her because he pulled out a gun. Angela said to him, what are you gonna do Ike? Kill me? Beat me? Go ahead because i'm walking out that door.