Paul McCartney: Disappointed Working with Others after John Lennon's Death

[Brian Damage]

Talking about the special magic that he and John Lennon had when working together, Paul McCartney said that working with others is always disappointing in comparison. That's quite a statement when considering some of the former duets he's done in the past with the likes of Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder.

McCartney said, "It's a funny subject the collaboration thing (is) because I collaborated with John and you're a little bit spoiled after that. That was one hell of a collaboration. I've done it quite a bit since and, I think - and I hate to say it - there's inevitably a sense of disappointment because it was just so cool for John and me to be working together, because we started so young and knew each other's ways and minds."

He added that it's a lot harder to make it happen with others in contrast to the smoothness he experienced with John.

Watching Paul working after John's death, it does seem like there is something missing from him that never has come back.

[Jrnygrl]

Thanks for the post Brian. :cool: :cool: :wave: :D

[Brian Damage]

Thanks for the post Brian. :cool: :cool: :wave: :D


You are very welcome. :)


I found it both surprising and not surprising. I mean Lennon was a legend, but he worked with so many other greats.

[Jrnygrl]

You are very welcome. :)


I found it both surprising and not surprising. I mean Lennon was a legend, but he worked with so many other greats.


True, I think Paul is having a lot of reflections that I think a lot of people go through. I mean it is just Paul and Ringo, and it was Paul and John there were there from the beginning. I just saw "A Hard Day's Night," and they just seemed so young and had such a great time. I think if John had lived both he and Paul would eventually have gotten back together in some form.

[Skywalker]

Can't say that I'm shocked. His collaborations with Stevie Wonder and Jackson were disappointing to say the least. "Say Say Say" and "Ebony and Ivory" were awful and one has to wonder what those guys were smoking when they decided to write that crap. :lol:

[Brian Damage]

Can't say that I'm shocked. His collaborations with Stevie Wonder and Jackson were disappointing to say the least. "Say Say Say" and "Ebony and Ivory" were awful and one has to wonder what those guys were smoking when they decided to write that crap. :lol:


I actually liked those songs! :lol:

[Skywalker]

I actually liked those songs! :lol:

:lol: What about the music video for "Say Say Say"? I believe it was voted one of the worst music videos of all time. I can't even listen to that song without thinking about that video. :lol:

[MonarC]

Lennon was a genius.

[Ireneparalegal]

Lennon was a genius.
Exactly. My man John was a master. Once you have caught lightening in a bottle, you shouldn't expect to have it again.

[catlover79]

No, I think The video Journey did for "Separate Ways" is the worst music video ever. Love the song, hate the video.

Lennon/McCartney is the most famous songwriting duo in pop music history. After you've worked with the best, anything else is going to be a bit of a letdown. I hear that after being estranged for years, the two were finally starting to make amends shorty before John was killed. I read somewhere that he really liked Paul's then-current single, "Coming Up".

[Shine]

Can't say that I'm shocked. His collaborations with Stevie Wonder and Jackson were disappointing to say the least. "Say Say Say" and "Ebony and Ivory" were awful and one has to wonder what those guys were smoking when they decided to write that crap. :lol:


I'm with you on this one, Justin. Those are two truly awful songs. Especially "Ebony and Ivory".

[dandelion wine]

Can't say that I'm shocked. His collaborations with Stevie Wonder and Jackson were disappointing to say the least. "Say Say Say" and "Ebony and Ivory" were awful and one has to wonder what those guys were smoking when they decided to write that crap. :lol:

Come on, you know you get teary-eyed (tears of joy, no less) when you hear "Ebony and Ivory" and I bet you blare the crap outta your radio when you hear "Say Say Say" - it's ok to admit it. ;)

[Skywalker]

Come on, you know you get teary-eyed (tears of joy, no less) when you hear "Ebony and Ivory" and I bet you blare the crap outta your radio when you hear "Say Say Say" - it's ok to admit it. ;)

No way! :lol: The only thing I get when I hear that song is a headache. ;)

[Shine]

No way! :lol: The only thing I get when I hear that song is a headache. ;)

:lol:

"The Girl Is Mine" is pretty bad too.

[catlover79]

:lol:

"The Girl Is Mine" is pretty bad too.
You're right, but I always find myself singing along to it whenever I hear it!! :lol:

[Skywalker]

:lol:

"The Girl Is Mine" is pretty bad too.

I heaven't heard that song in ages, but I used to like it. :lol:

[Shine]

You're right, but I always find myself singing along to it whenever I hear it!! :lol:


I can't stand it. :lol: I especially hate the banter between Paul and Michael Jackson at the end where MJ says stuff like "I'm a lover Paul, not a fighter". I feel like saying "you can have the girl, just shut up already". :lol:

[catlover79]

I can't stand it. :lol: I especially hate the banter between Paul and Michael Jackson at the end where MJ says stuff like "I'm a lover Paul, not a fighter". I feel like saying "you can have the girl, just shut up already". :lol:
:rofl:

[Shine]

I know that quite a few people will probably disagree with me on this, but I think Paul's entire solo output has been a mixed bag. He never came close to achieving in his solo work what John did in his. True, Paul has turned out some good solo albums like Ram, Band On the Run and Driving Rain, but very seldom has he captured in his solo work the magic he did in his Beatles work.

[catlover79]

Regarding his solo work, Paul was at his creative peak in the Band on the Run/Venus & Mars era. It seems after the big Wings tour of 1976, it was all downhill from there.

My fave McCartney/Wings songs: "Listen To What The Man Said", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey", "My Love", "Hi Hi Hi", "Daytime Nighttime Suffering", "Goodnight Tonight" and "Coming Up".

Let's not forget that John's solo period was of a much shorter duration than Paul's. He took 5 years off to be a full-time husband and father, and when he finally came back with Double Fantasy, he barely got to enjoy it before his murder. :( This is not to put down the Lennon solo catalog at all.

My fave Lennon solo songs: "Woman", "(Just Like) Starting Over", "I'm Losing You", "Whatever Gets You Thru The Night", "Beautiful Boy", "Jealous Guy" and his terrific cover of "Stand By Me".

[Shine]

My fave McCartney/Wings songs: "Listen To What The Man Said", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey", "My Love", "Hi Hi Hi", "Daytime Nighttime Suffering", "Goodnight Tonight" and "Coming Up".


I agree. Those are all great songs.

[Ireneparalegal]

Regarding his solo work, Paul was at his creative peak in the Band on the Run/Venus & Mars era. It seems after the big Wings tour of 1976, it was all downhill from there.

My fave McCartney/Wings songs: "Listen To What The Man Said", "Maybe I'm Amazed", "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey", "My Love", "Hi Hi Hi", "Daytime Nighttime Suffering", "Goodnight Tonight" and "Coming Up".
That's also my feelings. That is when Paul was at his best. I think Paul feels better collaborating with someone. He just needs to come to terms that no one can ever compare to John.

[dandelion wine]

No way! :lol: The only thing I get when I hear that song is a headache. ;)

:lol: You mean from listening to it over.. and over.. and over again? Ya know, 'cause you like it so much? ;)

[Cactus Jack]

:lol: You mean from listening to it over.. and over.. and over again? Ya know, 'cause you like it so much? ;)
You do that same thing with Seasons in the Sun and Cant Fight This feeling ive heard


;)

[dandelion wine]

You do that same thing with Seasons in the Sun and Cant Fight This feeling ive heard


;)

It's one of my guilty pleasures. ;)

[Cactus Jack]

It's one of my guilty pleasures. ;)
Ha, yeah :lol: ;)

[Cactus Jack]

I agree. Those are all great songs.
I love Wings!
But, still, once a Beatle, always a Beatle

[The Great One]

Talking about the special magic that he and John Lennon had when working together, Paul McCartney said that working with others is always disappointing in comparison. That's quite a statement when considering some of the former duets he's done in the past with the likes of Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder.

McCartney said, "It's a funny subject the collaboration thing (is) because I collaborated with John and you're a little bit spoiled after that. That was one hell of a collaboration. I've done it quite a bit since and, I think - and I hate to say it - there's inevitably a sense of disappointment because it was just so cool for John and me to be working together, because we started so young and knew each other's ways and minds."

He added that it's a lot harder to make it happen with others in contrast to the smoothness he experienced with John.

Watching Paul working after John's death, it does seem like there is something missing from him that never has come back.

Awesome comment by McCartney!!! Thanks for starting this thread!
It definitely made my day!

[Cactus Jack]

I can't stand it. :lol: I especially hate the banter between Paul and Michael Jackson at the end where MJ says stuff like "I'm a lover Paul, not a fighter". I feel like saying "you can have the girl, just shut up already". :lol:
Wait a minute, This is Paul and MJ?!?!?!?! WHY PAUL WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!? Lennon musta bene hanging his headi n shame in his grave

[dandelion wine]

Ha, yeah :lol: ;)

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