New Spinoff Debate, Brian Damage doesn't think Aunt Esther was spun off from Sanford

[TVFactFan]

and Son to star on "SANFORD ARMS" He thinks that the SANFORD ARMS was spinned off and we all know you can spinoff an APT Building, only characters. So who agree that Aunt Esther was the character spun off from Sanford and Son?

[Brian Damage]

and Son to star on "SANFORD ARMS" He thinks that the SANFORD ARMS was spinned off and we all know you can spinoff an APT Building, only characters. So who agree that Aunt Esther was the character spun off from Sanford and Son?

LMAO

[Stuck In The '70's]

:lol:

[Lamont]

and Son to star on "SANFORD ARMS" He thinks that the SANFORD ARMS was spinned off and we all know you can spinoff an APT Building, only characters. So who agree that Aunt Esther was the character spun off from Sanford and Son?


who would agree?

ummmm... noone

:lol:

[TVFactFan]

Now I have to find the sanford and son episode when Phil Wheeler bought the sanford arms

[Lamont]

Now I have to find the sanford and son episode when Phil Wheeler bought the sanford arms

there doesnt have to be an OFFICIAL episode as such solomon

we never actually saw JAMES die on good times, or JOCK dies on dallas
BUT THEY DIED

and PHIL bought the sanford arms and that is that

i love how u think its somehow more official if they film a transitional episode than if not

complete illogic! :lol:

[TVFactFan]

there doesnt have to be an OFFICIAL episode as such solomon

we never actually saw JAMES die on good times, or JOCK dies on dallas
BUT THEY DIED

and PHIL bought the sanford arms and that is that

i love how u think its somehow more official if they film a transitional episode than if not

complete illogic! :lol:


Sanford Arms is a spinoff because Esther, Bubba, and Woody spinned off. The End

[Lamont]

Sanford Arms is a spinoff because Esther, Bubba, and Woody spinned off. The End
i dont care how many 100 times u say the same thing tvresearcher it does NOT make it true

:lol:

[Brian Damage]

Sanford Arms is a spinoff because Esther, Bubba, and Woody spinned off. The End

Solomon, you are wrong. The show didn't revolve around Aunt Esther.

[TVFactFan]

Solomon, you are wrong. The show didn't revolve around Aunt Esther.


Aunt Esther was in every ep and had a Large Role in the First episode explaining why Fred and Lamont was gone. As Soon as the pilot of Sanford Arms starts you see a SANFORD AND SON character FIRS before Phil Wheeler. The First person u see is Grady and Dolly, two sanford and Son characters. Then you see BUBBA and eventually Esther who was the lanlady. So I was wrong when I said the show revovled around her but I'm not wrong when I said the show was a spinoff. Bubba and Esther was the characters spinned off into Sanford Arms

[Brian Damage]

Aunt Esther was in every ep and had a Large Role in the First episode explaining why Fred and Lamont was gone. As Soon as the pilot of Sanford Arms starts you see a SANFORD AND SON character FIRS before Phil Wheeler. The First person u see is Grady and Dolly, two sanford and Son characters. Then you see BUBBA and eventually Esther who was the lanlady. So I was wrong when I said the show revovled around her but I'm not wrong when I said the show was a spinoff. Bubba and Esther was the characters spinned off into Sanford Arms


Since you are so into transitions, where was the episode that spun off Aunt Esther?

[TVFactFan]

Since you are so into transitions, where was the episode that spun off Aunt Esther?


No Transition ep for Sanford Arms like it was for Grady

[Brian Damage]

No Transition ep for Sanford Arms like it was for Grady

Then by your logic, she was not spun off. :lol:

[Lamont]

so following your (il)logic
does that mean GRADY is not a spinoff????



PS- youre still wrong
:lol:

[TVFactFan]

Then by your logic, she was not spun off. :lol:


Sanford Arms was not a Norman Lear Spinoff. That only goes for Lear Spinoffs

[Lamont]

Sanford Arms was not a Norman Lear Spinoff. That only goes for Lear Spinoffs


so tvresearchers RULES OF SPINOFFs NOW only apply to certain creators shows, and not others? how does this make any sense at all?

[TVFactFan]

so following your (il)logic
does that mean GRADY is not a spinoff????



PS- youre still wrong
:lol:



Why wouldn't Grady be a spinoff? Also you need to make a change on your site and change your number of Grady eps to the #2 and not 3. There are two Grady eps in existence in the trading community

[dlemond]

No Transition ep for Sanford Arms like it was for Grady

There is no transition rule, a spinoff is a spinoff.

That's it. It comes from another show.

No matter what you say, you don't get to dictate what deems a show a spinoff. I mean for god's sake you think you are better to judge than some of the people involved!

[TVFactFan]

There is no transition rule, a spinoff is a spinoff.

That's it. It comes from another show.

No matter what you say, you don't get to dictate what deems a show a spinoff. I mean for god's sake you think you are better to judge than some of the people involved!


Lamont and Brian was bringing up something I said in another debate but it doesn't count here because Lear did not develop Sanford Arms which is why I didn't understand why it was brought into this conversation

[Brian Damage]

If she wasn't the star of the show, how could a she be the one to be spun off?

[Lamont]

Lamont and Brian was bringing up something I said in another debate but it doesn't count here because Lear did not develop Sanford Arms which is why I didn't understand why it was brought into this conversation

it was brought up
b/c RULES ARE RULES
if u say a spinoff has to have a transition show for NORMAN LEARs shows
then it HAS to apply to NON NORMAN LEAR shows too

a rule either IS or it ISNT
u cannot change things to fit whatever u are saying at the moment

and a SPINOFF is a SPINOFF regardless of transition shows or not, and regardless of LEAR shows or not

[Lamont]

:grady: Why wouldn't Grady be a spinoff? Also you need to make a change on your site and change your number of Grady eps to the #2 and not 3. There are two Grady eps in existence in the trading community

you only have 2???

[TVFactFan]

If she wasn't the star of the show, how could a she be the one to be spun off?


I corected myself and said her and bubba were spun off together

[TVFactFan]

:grady:

you only have 2???



Everyone has 2 included you-lol

[Lamont]

Everyone has 2 included you-lol

oh really?

[TVFactFan]

oh really?


YES!!!!. That OTHER p of Grady is a SANFORD AND SON ep which was the PILOT. So since that ep has the Sanford and Son Opening, it can be counted as a 3rd ep. So you only have two eps like me and everyone else who has the showin their collection

[Lamont]

or perhaps i have another one u are not aware of

u know, people do always turn up stuff that was once lost


hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[TVFactFan]

or perhaps i have another one u are not aware of

u know, people do always turn up stuff that was once lost


hmmmmmmmmmmmm




Whatver, you have 3 episodes like me and tom dubel

[Lamont]

Whatver, you have 3 episodes like me and tom dubel


has the amazing ability to telepathically view my inventory

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[TVFactFan]

has the amazing ability to telepathically view my inventory

:lol: :lol: :lol:


OK Bigtime list the # of Grady eps you have?-lol

[Lamont]

OK Bigtime list the # of Grady eps you have?-lol
i never said i did or did not have a certain # of eps of Grady, u were the one who knew what i had, i was simply pointing out that u should not assume without knowing

for example THE JIM NABORS HOUR, rare show, 2 eps been around for ages, last month i found a third

happens a lot

[TVFactFan]

i never said i did or did not have a certain # of eps of Grady, u were the one who knew what i had, i was simply pointing out that u should not assume without knowing

for example THE JIM NABORS HOUR, rare show, 2 eps been around for ages, last month i found a third

happens a lot


If you had discovered more Grady eps u would have ANNOUNCED IT!!!. It's so unlike you to keep something on the HUSH

[gilligan fanatic]

What's the third. I just know of the first one when Redd Foxx is on and when Grady learns to drive.

[Lamont]

actually THIS TIME tvresearcher is actually right
i only have 2 eps of GRADY the one listed as the 3rd ep is the pilot from SANFORD AND SON where Grady moves in with his family

HOWEVER the point i was making is that, new stuff pops up all the time

used to be TVRESEARCHER searced for ages for CPO SHARKEY, now i have it complete
used to be ALICE was a set noone had, but 4 of us got together collected our eps and made a complete set

it happens all the time

I JUST GOT IN -- the OPENING THEME only of CHECKING IN the jeffersons spinoff, its only the theme song and about 70 seconds of an ep, but it will one day turn up

and so will grady, one day

[TVFactFan]

What's the third. I just know of the first one when Redd Foxx is on and when Grady learns to drive.


There is no third Matt which is what I'm trying to tell lamont but he wants to act like he has more than everyone else-lol The third ep that lamont has on his list is the PILOT which was a Sanford and Son Ep at the end of season 4

[TVFactFan]

actually THIS TIME tvresearcher is actually right
i only have 2 eps of GRADY the one listed as the 3rd ep is the pilot from SANFORD AND SON where Grady moves in with his family

HOWEVER the point i was making is that, new stuff pops up all the time

used to be TVRESEARCHER searced for ages for CPO SHARKEY, now i have it complete
used to be ALICE was a set noone had, but 4 of us got together collected our eps and made a complete set

it happens all the time

I JUST GOT IN -- the OPENING THEME only of CHECKING IN the jeffersons spinoff, its only the theme song and about 70 seconds of an ep, but it will one day turn up

and so will grady, one day


So what does the opening theme sound like?

[Lamont]

There is no third Matt which is what I'm trying to tell lamont but he wants to act like he has more than everyone else-lol The third ep that lamont has on his list is the PILOT which was a Sanford and Son Ep at the end of season 4
i just said that there

and i wasnt trying to make anyone think anything at all

u stated in the thread that i needed to change my list b/c it was wrong- and yet u didnt know 100% that it is wrong, so i just asked hmmm how do u know, maybe its not wrong, i never said it was 3 grady eps

HOWEVER, i will say this, i know a guy who has 2 ADDITIONAL EPISODES of GRADY on 16mm film, NO JOKE!
and im trying to negotiate them from him, TROUBLE IS he only wants to sell and he wants BIG TIME $$$$ FOR THEM, way more than i am willing to pay, BUT im hoping i can get him down a bit, and if that happens--i will GLADLY announce that !!!!

[gilligan fanatic]

ok, got it

[Lamont]

So what does the opening theme sound like?

on this one, u will honestly have to wait and see

HERE IS THE DEAL

i have a bunch of stuff like that on vhs right now, i got 4 vhs tapes from a guy, all theme songs and openings ONLY (trust me, i do not know why he taped that) all from VERY OLD clunky tapes that are rough quality
i have a guy in NY who is going to do them up with nice menus so u can pick out the themes u want, will be back to me in about 3-4 weeks and once i do
i will post that in the trading post and we can go from there