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nancysbiggestfan
06-19-2001, 04:49 PM
Do u think that abortion is RIGHT or WRONG?
Max Whittaker
06-19-2001, 04:54 PM
Politics is wrong!
ILuvJo&Blair
06-19-2001, 06:22 PM
Wrong.
nancysbiggestfan
06-19-2001, 08:08 PM
Well i guess i could answer my own question, huh? LOL
WRONG
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Max Whittaker
06-19-2001, 10:26 PM
(SIGH) Why not...
I am aganst it,however I do believe women should have a choice! Otherwise they may do something crazy like do it illegally or themselves! It should be a choice.
Politics...Grrrr...
JoPol_wannabe
06-19-2001, 11:13 PM
I believe abortion is totally wrong because it's a human being from the day it is conceived and your not supposed to kill any human being. But that's just my opinion.
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lesliem14
06-19-2001, 11:57 PM
Talk about a volitale subject...
I'm not sure what my view on abortion is. On one side I am Catholic and I do believe that abortion is murder, but I seriously disagree with the Church's position on birth control. My government background leads me to a different conclusion though. I don't like some judge, with little medical background, telling me what I can and can not do with my body. It's just a very sticky area for me at this time. I have no problem with abortion if the mother or child's life is endangered, rape, or incest, but for someone to just go and have an abortion I don't know. I seriously doubt I will ever come to a conclusion on this issue, except that it is not right for me, but how can I make a life-changing decision for someone else?
LaverneShirley
06-20-2001, 01:06 PM
I used to think that if the mother was raped, she should be able to have one, but now I'm totally pro-life. Abortion is murder. Just because it's not your fault you're pregnant doesn't mean you should kill an innocent baby. They didn't do anything wrong either.
While we're on the subject, is it true that there are 4200 abortions a day in America alone? I never knew there were that many. There's a church by me that has 4200 little white crosses and a sign that I've never been able to read but I know it's something about abortion.
Mossopp
06-20-2001, 01:30 PM
Contrary to what a lot of you have said in response to this question, abortion is NOT murder. The unborn child has no feelings or anything - it's not even aware of it's own existance, therefor how can aborting it be 'murder'?
I see nothing wrong with abortion, although if people had any sense in the first instance they would be using contraception.
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nancysbiggestfan
06-20-2001, 02:08 PM
Well as i said before it think it is wrong. Abortion is murder, you are killing a human being and that is wrong. Although, i do think the woman should have the right to choose. This is suppose to be a free country.
Originally posted by Mossopp:
Contrary to what a lot of you have said in response to this question, abortion is NOT murder. The unborn child has no feelings or anything - it's not even aware of it's own existance, therefor how can aborting it be 'murder'?
I see nothing wrong with abortion, although if people had any sense in the first instance they would be using contraception.
Mossopp.
Abortion IS murder. Although the child is yet to enter the world, it is a living breathing human being, which shouldn't die from others mistakes. Abortion is wrong!
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Max Whittaker
06-20-2001, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Mossopp:
Contrary to what a lot of you have said in response to this question, abortion is NOT murder. The unborn child has no feelings or anything - it's not even aware of it's own existance, therefor how can aborting it be 'murder'?
I see nothing wrong with abortion, although if people had any sense in the first instance they would be using contraception.
Mossopp.
Do you know how they abort the birth? It is cruel! And it is murder!
Whoa- touchy subject. Here’s my thoughts. Abortion is a very personal issue. Not everyone believes the same thing regarding when life starts and whether or not abortion is murder. I feel the woman has a right to choose based on her own personal beliefs.
Cokies
06-21-2001, 01:00 AM
Wow, touchy subject indeed.
The real issue here is that of the woman's choice. And under circumstances in which the woman can ABSOLUTELY CANNOT have the baby, it's her decision to choose whether to abort or not. And it's nobody's right to dictate whether she can or not, PERIOD.
It's actually better off now than when abortion was illegal. Women were crossing borders, having abortions with unlicensed doctors, with "dirty" tools, on the "black market", shall we say. Women died during the actual procedures back then...
Anyway, when it comes down to it...it's the woman's choice. That's all there is to it...
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Max Whittaker
06-21-2001, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Cokies:
Wow, touchy subject indeed.
The real issue here is that of the woman's choice. And under circumstances in which the woman can ABSOLUTELY CANNOT have the baby, it's her decision to choose whether to abort or not. And it's nobody's right to dictate whether she can or not, PERIOD.
It's actually better off now than when abortion was illegal. Women were crossing borders, having abortions with unlicensed doctors, with "dirty" tools, on the "black market", shall we say. Women died during the actual procedures back then...
Anyway, when it comes down to it...it's the woman's choice. That's all there is to it...
Exactly what I said.
coily2
06-22-2001, 08:52 PM
As a woman who is opinionated about pretty much everything, I really do not care one way or another. Is that bad?
Max Whittaker
06-22-2001, 09:00 PM
It's alright not to care about the subject of aborton. I wish politions would leave it alone,though.
nancysbiggestfan
06-22-2001, 09:06 PM
No I dont think it is bad that u dont care one way or another. Like i said before i think it is wrong and murder but the woman should have the right to choose.
Will and Grace Fanatic
05-28-2002, 01:51 PM
I think it is wrong not because of political or religous beleives cause I don't have any.
But because in my opion a fetus is a living being and no one should have the right to end it. even in the case of rape or incest. You could put that child up for adoption and have a closed adoption so that that child would never know of its terrible past.
Hollow
05-28-2002, 04:16 PM
I think its ok but it should be ur choice
vienna waits
05-28-2002, 04:31 PM
I believe in a woman's right to choose.
Ewan's My Man
05-28-2002, 04:31 PM
I really don't have an opinion. I think it should be entirely the person's choice. For example, some people may not put their kid up for adoption if they didn't really want it, but still may not abort it. What if the person beat up their child then? I for one would think the child would be happier dead, then abused. But, it is also murder so that is wrong. I think it is the women's decision. She shouldn't have other people make the decision for her. But, heeeeeeey, I'm only 12, wut do I kno?
Mijada
05-28-2002, 04:35 PM
I feel it is the womans choice. She's the one who has to live with the decision, not me. Mossopp is right. People should use contraceptives in the first place.
Czas na Zywiec
05-28-2002, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Mijada
I feel it is the womans choice. She's the one who has to live with the decision, not me. Mossopp is right. People should use contraceptives in the first place.
Or not have sex at all in the first place.
MyStErIoUs ChIck
05-28-2002, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Ricky Ricardo
Or not have sex at all in the first place.
true...
FOLrocks1
05-28-2002, 05:52 PM
Wasn't there a topic about this already!?
vienna waits
05-28-2002, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by FOLrocks1
Wasn't there a topic about this already!?
this one is old.
ILuvJoandBlair
05-28-2002, 07:53 PM
I think it's wrong in any case.
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
05-28-2002, 08:29 PM
I guess i'm the only one, but I have to agree w/ Mossopp to a certain extent....
I am pro-choice. I belive that in the case of rape (someone said earlier that it's not the kids fault, so they shouldn't have to suffer, aborting a child during the first half of the first semester isn't torturing child, it's aborting a sperm), incest (how would you like to be carrying your brother?), and in the case that the birth of the child could result in the death of the mother (how would you like to know you had 9months to live)
In the end, i don't think anyone really has the right to be pro-life or pro-choice unless it's in their own circumstances.... I would be ashambed to say that my views spoke for every other woman in the united states. I know some people are pro-life because they don't want to kill a living child... waiting till the 2nd semester would be killing a child, but deleting a sperm.... isn't.
anywayz.... i'm pro-choice
Oh, and int he case of rape....i say the man should have his penis cut off and be forced to carry it around in a jar......
Oh, and Ricky Racardo said "or just don't have sex". Read "1984" and you'll be so thankful that sex is legal.
DarleneIllyria
05-28-2002, 09:23 PM
I think it really depends on the situation. Let's say someone gets raped, and gets pregnant. I could see how that would be a struggle. Do you give birth to the baby and immediately put it up for adoption? Do you abort the baby immediately and wipe out anything to remind you of the rape?
If a person decides to have an abortion for a stupid reason like, "I don't want to get fat. blah blah blah" Yeah, dumb reason and a dumb person.
Then we have the 'What if' thing. What if a person gets pregnant, has an abortion and lets say 5 years from now gets married and actually wants to have a baby, but can't get pregnant now.
I don't think I would have an abortion if I found out that I was pregnant. It's a choice others will have to make if they come across the circumstance.
Kay Scarpetta
05-28-2002, 09:30 PM
Well, this is my view....excluding rape or incest.
When the woman had sex, she knew what she was doing. She KNEW the consequences, and that she had a chance of getting pregnant. It, after all, was her choice to have sex in the first place. Therefore, I say she has no right to abort the baby, because she knew what she was getting herself into.
As for incest and/or rape, I have a whole different view on it
JDS84
06-04-2002, 08:10 PM
For instance back before I was born and after mom's 2nd girl was born. She got pregnant and months passed her and dad was at the doctor and they told mom of she decided to go on and have this baby she would die and the baby also. So my parents thought long and hard about this and she wouldn't have has this abortion I would have not been born and she always told me that her and dad would rather have me more than anything in this world. Do you think that is wrong? I think it depends on the situation.
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06-04-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by LaverneShirley
I used to think that if the mother was raped, she should be able to have one, but now I'm totally pro-life. Abortion is murder. Just because it's not your fault you're pregnant doesn't mean you should kill an innocent baby. They didn't do anything wrong either.
While we're on the subject, is it true that there are 4200 abortions a day in America alone? I never knew there were that many. There's a church by me that has 4200 little white crosses and a sign that I've never been able to read but I know it's something about abortion.
I totally agree with you on what you said about a women being rped. She should still have the child, just maybe not keep it. Put it up for adoption. Don't kill the thing though because the child could be a great asset to the world and how would oyu know if you kill it?My gosh give the baby a chance@ Everyone derves to live.
XoVanillaRain90oX
06-04-2002, 09:06 PM
I think it is wrong. All though the child hasn't "lived" yet, as so to speak, it is still killing a future human being! I know how they do it and it's just WRONG!
Ags2000
06-05-2002, 12:18 PM
I'll drop my 2 cents here. I guess you can say I kinda stradlle the fence a little. I don't think I personally could EVER have an abortion, HOWEVER, I think that it should be the woman's choice. No other person should be able to tell anybody what to do or not to do in this case with their own body.
I'm not going to get into the argument about whether the egg is alive or not or if it is murder. I've been down that road before. I'm from Texas and I'm a republican, I guess you can say I'm a minority in my viewpoint in politics when it comes down to it. The Republican Party in Texas in basically controlled by the Religious Right so the platform always has something in there about abortion. They can get real crazy if they find out you do not agree with them. I'm not saying all people are like that, that just has been my experience with pro-lifers.
You know the one thing that has always gotten me about the pro-lifers? They say aborting an egg or fetus is murder, yet some (NOT ALL) will kill a doctor for performing abortions and see nothing wrong with it. I just don't get that. :confused:
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Will and Grace Fanatic
06-05-2002, 02:34 PM
Abortion is a selfish act. It was created so that selfish woman could just throw away there problems or mistakes. It is crime as far as I'm concerned anyone who performs and has an abortion should be put in jail for murder. And should put in prison for the rest of there lifes. and if there are any abortion doctors in here may you burn in hell.
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
06-05-2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by shyguy418
Abortion is a selfish act. It was created so that selfish woman could just throw away there problems or mistakes. It is crime as far as I'm concerned anyone who performs and has an abortion should be put in jail for murder. And should put in prison for the rest of there lifes. and if there are any abortion doctors in here may you burn in hell.
IMO, that is the most ignorant statement I have heard so far. All abortion clinques should be bombed, oh no... that's not what you said, just that the doctors should burn in hell? Should defense lawyers who got a rapist off the hook w/ only 1 year probation die in hell? How about the man that got the woman pregant? What if he runs off after he got the woman pregant, should he be hunted down and forced to live the rest of his days in a rotting prison? Well, it happens everyday. And no ones been punished.
It takes two people to make a baby, one man, one woman. Where is the man during all this "The woman is wrong! The woman is wrong!" Chances are, he's either out getting another woman pregant, or skipped town. No man (talking to you now ShyGuy) can even come close to relating how a woman feels after an abortion, or even how she feels knowing that it is a consideration. Should a woman be allowed to have an abortion b/c she's afraid of getting fat? NO! That is murder. Should a woman be allowed to have an abortion if her life is at risk? YES!
Bottomn line.... it should be the womans choice, not soceitys.
Will and Grace Fanatic
06-05-2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
IMO, that is the most ignorant statement I have heard so far. All abortion clinques should be bombed, oh no... that's not what you said, just that the doctors should burn in hell? Should defense lawyers who got a rapist off the hook w/ only 1 year probation die in hell? How about the man that got the woman pregant? What if he runs off after he got the woman pregant, should he be hunted down and forced to live the rest of his days in a rotting prison? Well, it happens everyday. And no ones been punished.
It takes two people to make a baby, one man, one woman. Where is the man during all this "The woman is wrong! The woman is wrong!" Chances are, he's either out getting another woman pregant, or skipped town. No man (talking to you now ShyGuy) can even come close to relating how a woman feels after an abortion, or even how she feels knowing that it is a consideration. Should a woman be allowed to have an abortion b/c she's afraid of getting fat? NO! That is murder. Should a woman be allowed to have an abortion if her life is at risk? YES!
Bottomn line.... it should be the womans choice, not soceitys.
yes it does take two to have a baby but the bottom line is the woman will make the choice the man doesn't get to decide. so if the man wants the child and the woman doesn't the woman will likely get the abortion. And the man can't stop her. That's not very fair is it?
also you say that a woman should be able to get an abortion if her life is risk. I don't think so that childs life is more important then her life. Saying that she should get an abortion if her life is at risk is like saying a woman should be able to kill her husband or boyfriend if they are abusive and she fears for her life.
Kristina
06-05-2002, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by shyguy418
yes it does take two to have a baby but the bottom line is the woman will make the choice the man doesn't get to decide. so if the man wants the child and the woman doesn't the woman will likely get the abortion. And the man can't stop her. That's not very fair is it?
Well the womans the one carrying the baby, and going through PAIN LIKE HELL to have the baby delivered, not the man... Oh, so he gets the easy job and the woman gets the hard job? That's not fair either oh wait then again life isn't always fair, now is it? It's not something I would do but it should certainly be an option. It's America, FREEDOM! patriot:
vienna waits
06-05-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by shyguy418
also you say that a woman should be able to get an abortion if her life is risk. I don't think so that childs life is more important then her life. Saying that she should get an abortion if her life is at risk is like saying a woman should be able to kill her husband or boyfriend if they are abusive and she fears for her life.
If a man has the potential of killing his wife and his wife is scared then she should be allowed to kill him if it comes down to that! If she is being held at gun point and somehow gets control of the gun the woman has every right to kill him. And a grown woman's life is more important if you ask me than a fetus. If a woman gets pregnant and one month later finds out she isnt the type of person who can have this baby she should have a right to have an abortion. She shouldn't have the baby and die for a fetus. And you peope against abortion say its bad to kill a fetus and you want to kill a grown woman?
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06-05-2002, 10:48 PM
Abortion:Wrong
Adoption:Right
Kristina
06-05-2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by shyguy418
yes it does take two to have a baby but the bottom line is the woman will make the choice the man doesn't get to decide. so if the man wants the child and the woman doesn't the woman will likely get the abortion. And the man can't stop her. That's not very fair is it?
also you say that a woman should be able to get an abortion if her life is risk. I don't think so that childs life is more important then her life. Saying that she should get an abortion if her life is at risk is like saying a woman should be able to kill her husband or boyfriend if they are abusive and she fears for her life.
No ****, dimwit. If somebody ever put me in fear of my life or threatened to kill me I'd grab my dad's safety gun and blow that persons head off. That's only comon sense and it goes for everbody kids, adults, men, and women. Nobody is more important than anybody life wise, that is just sick what you said. Because I have a dog and she were to have puppies that doesn't mean I let her have the puppys and then shoot her brain out. Sicko I'll bet your like a woman beater, or a killer.
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
06-05-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by tootieismyfav
If a man has the potential of killing his wife and his wife is scared then she should be allowed to kill him if it comes down to that! If she is being held at gun point and somehow gets control of the gun the woman has every right to kill him. And a grown woman's life is more important if you ask me than a fetus. If a woman gets pregnant and one month later finds out she isnt the type of person who can have this baby she should have a right to have an abortion. She shouldn't have the baby and die for a fetus. And you peope against abortion say its bad to kill a fetus and you want to kill a grown woman?
AMEN!!
Kristina
06-05-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
AMEN!!
You copied that word from my sig and YOU KNOW IT!! J/K lol
Will and Grace Fanatic
06-06-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Lucille Ball Forever
No ****, dimwit. If somebody ever put me in fear of my life or threatened to kill me I'd grab my dad's safety gun and blow that persons head off. That's only comon sense and it goes for everbody kids, adults, men, and women. Nobody is more important than anybody life wise, that is just sick what you said. Because I have a dog and she were to have puppies that doesn't mean I let her have the puppys and then shoot her brain out. Sicko I'll bet your like a woman beater, or a killer.
what the heck is wrong with you? You have the nerve to call me these names. and assume all this stuff. First off I am not a wife beater or a killer. I feel all killers and wife beaters should burn in hell too. Don't get all upset about this abortion topic. I'm not attacking you. I'm just putting my opinon out there. Just like you. Hey I'm sorry that I offended you but I am able to put out my own opinon.
Kristina
06-06-2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by shyguy418
what the heck is wrong with you? You have the nerve to call me these names. and assume all this stuff. First off I am not a wife beater or a killer. I feel all killers and wife beaters should burn in hell too. Don't get all upset about this abortion topic. I'm not attacking you. I'm just putting my opinon out there. Just like you. Hey I'm sorry that I offended you but I am able to put out my own opinon.
Well I don't have to respect your opinion, I just put my opinion about you...
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
06-06-2002, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Lucille Ball Forever
You copied that word from my sig and YOU KNOW IT!! J/K lol
lol, i was about to say.... ?
Kristina
06-06-2002, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
lol, i was about to say.... ?
lol god I'm dumb lmao! :lol:
Will and Grace Fanatic
06-06-2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Lucille Ball Forever
Well I don't have to respect your opinion, I just put my opinion about you...
That's fine. Because I have no respect people who are pro abortion.
Kristina
06-06-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by shyguy418
That's fine. Because I have no respect people who are pro abortion.
Excuse me? What do you mean by that?
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo
06-06-2002, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by shyguy418
That's fine. Because I have no respect people who are pro abortion.
Look guys, be mature about this. You should BOTH respect each other, and your opions, but you don't have to agree w/ them. Some people are pro-life, some are pro-choice. Each group as a right to their own opion. This is a very serious topic, don't degrade it down to name calling.
Kristina
06-06-2002, 02:41 PM
I know, I'm just gonna end this post for me.
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