Disturbing episodes

[Tootie]

The most disturbing one has to be the one where Edith is almost raped.
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[retrochick9]

Yes, I found that one hard to watch.

[Brieannas21]

The most disturbing one has to be the one where Edith is almost raped.


I totally agree, also the one about Edith losing her Faith, when Beverly LaSalle was Killed, that was a hard one also.

[Mikado]

Another ditto on that ep....i cant watch it

[TVFactFan]

I still say that the Gloria Character should have been chosen for the Rape Storyline

[gilligan fanatic]

the second season episode when the black guy is going to protect the Bunkers and then gets shot at the end. I think that was the one with the Nazi sign on the door. I used to think Edith's Crisis of faith was a good episode and kind of sad, but the second time I saw it it was nothing special. Kind of seemed over done.

[Brieannas21]

the second season episode when the black guy is going to protect the Bunkers and then gets shot at the end. I think that was the one with the Nazi sign on the door. I used to think Edith's Crisis of faith was a good episode and kind of sad, but the second time I saw it it was nothing special. Kind of seemed over done.


He wasn't black, he was white and jewish. And he didn't get shot he was blown up in his car.

[Brieannas21]

I still say that the Gloria Character should have been chosen for the Rape Storyline

She kinda had a rape storyline.

[TVFactFan]

She kinda had a rape storyline.


Well that should have been the only rape storyline

[gilligan fanatic]

He wasn't black, he was white and jewish. And he didn't get shot he was blown up in his car.

I am getting way to many things confused today? :eek: I got that whole episode wrong and the sad part it I saw it recently.

[Brian Damage]

Definitely the episode where Julio (I don't remember his name on AITF) gets blown up in his car.

[comedyfreak]

Parts 1 and 2 Where Edith is almost raped, I was shocked that Gloria screamed at Edith and how Edith slapped Gloria across the face.

[GeorgiaboyJeff!]

I still say that the Gloria Character should have been chosen for the Rape Storyline

It's because Gloria was more younger & attractive am I right? All women of all ages,races & sizes are raped everyday! So Edith almost getting raped isn't too far fetched. The guy was nutso! He'd rape Archie probably lol!

[TVFactFan]

It's because Gloria was more younger & attractive am I right? All women of all ages,races & sizes are raped everyday! So Edith almost getting raped isn't too far fetched. The guy was nutso! He'd rape Archie probably lol!


I know that but I just don't need to see it

[Brieannas21]

I know that but I just don't need to see it


Well women of all ages get rapped by crazy people. The episode was true to life I think. It brought awareness to people, that even a nice looking man can be a nut.

[TVFactFan]

Well women of all ages get rapped by crazy people. The episode was true to life I think. It brought awareness to people, that even a nice looking man can be a nut.


All that is understandable but still...

[GCW]

I have to agree the two-parter episode when Edith almost gets raped was a very disturbing episode.

[Justwondering]

I never liked sitcoms to deal with very serious subject matter. Cancer, rape, and death are inherently unfunny. These are somber topics. Consequently, I do not consider the episodes of AITF that dealt with these matters to be particularly memorable episodes.

When Archie was worried about being layed off from his job, I felt that was a topic that can still be the subject of a comedy. The episodes in which Archie was in the hospital were also well done, in my opinion.

[GeorgiaboyJeff!]

I never liked sitcoms to deal with very serious subject matter. Cancer, rape, and death are inherently unfunny. These are somber topics.

I agree! Sitcoms are really mainly supposed to be entertaining & something to relax you & have you laugh for a good 30 minutes. If I wanted to see something depressing, I'd rather watch a movie or a soap opera or something LOL.

Though the episodes are good, I just hate it when shows have serious episodes.

[TVFactFan]

I never liked sitcoms to deal with very serious subject matter. Cancer, rape, and death are inherently unfunny. These are somber topics. Consequently, I do not consider the episodes of AITF that dealt with these matters to be particularly memorable episodes.

When Archie was worried about being layed off from his job, I felt that was a topic that can still be the subject of a comedy. The episodes in which Archie was in the hospital were also well done, in my opinion.



Defintely not death or cancer topics, I agree

[BuddyHinton]

I totally disagree. These characters are supposed to be like real people. The more different topics they can squeeze in the more it bring the charcaters to life. In many ways Mash and AITF were "dramadies" and offer much more heart than most would suspect. It's all about balance. Do I want to see this stuff every other epsiode? No. Do I want to be reminded that these are PEOPLE? Definitely. Much in the same way the best dramas always find a way to inject some comedy a long the way. Columbo was a crime ''drama'', but had some of the funniest and best written jokes in the business.

[TVFactFan]

I totally disagree. These characters are supposed to be like real people. The more different topics they can squeeze in the more it bring the charcaters to life. In many ways Mash and AITF were "dramadies" and offer much more heart than most would suspect. It's all about balance. Do I want to see this stuff every other epsiode? No. Do I want to be reminded that these are PEOPLE? Definitely. Much in the same way the best dramas always find a way to inject some comedy a long the way. Columbo was a crime ''drama'', but had some of the funniest and best written jokes in the business.



No Sitcom should ever deal with the topic of cancer or Rape.

[Ireneparalegal]

aside from the obvious rape episode, the episodes where Archie cheats on Edith with that floozy waitress.:mad:

[Brieannas21]

aside from the obvious rape episode, the episodes where Archie cheats on Edith with that floozy waitress.:mad:


yeah that was one of Archie's low moments

[jehobden]

Definitely the episode where Julio (I don't remember his name on AITF) gets blown up in his car.

That would be Gregory Sierra, who played Julio on Sanford & Son and Chano on Barney Miller. His character on AITF was named Paul Benjamin.

[MikeL]

all those was disturbing episodes and one i did not see metioned was edith christ of faith when Beveraly Laselle was murderd by street thugs during christmas time

[BuddyHinton]

No Sitcom should ever deal with the topic of cancer or Rape.

I agree.... if they can't handle it. A brainless show like Step by Step or the many other weak and tired efforts at sitcoms simply do not have the characters to support the weight. AITF was a different show in which the actors could ACT. There was NO subject they could not broach convincingly.

[Janice Johnson]

aside from the obvious rape episode, the episodes where Archie cheats on Edith with that floozy waitress.:mad:

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[nlearfan]

Even though it was the hardest for me to watch, the rape episode is my favorite. I have yet to see the one where Beverly Lasalle is murdered on Christmas.

[Holland_Vincent]

The rape episode is a tough one to watch but they really did it so well. They added just the right amoun of humor to the situation (a tough thing to do). Every time I watch that episode I get a rush when Edith escpaes. It's as though I want to cheer along with the audience.

[80s_Fan]

The most disturbing one has to be the one where Edith is almost raped.
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I agree; that one is the most disturbing episode to watch. :(

[Sammy Reed]

There was this episode where Mike & Gloria were out eating with a friend. The friend told them they were eating crab meat, so they threw it up! Not very pleasant to watch.

[Mrs. Periwinkle]

Sammy Reed, do you remember what episode that was in? I don't recall it. Are you sure it was crabmeat? Gloria once cooked horse, so it's strange that she and Mike would flip out over eating a shellfish...You never know with Gloria, though! She shocked me when she belched in one episode. ;)

Anyway, for me, the most disturbing episodes was the one where Edith nearly got raped and the other one where Gloria nearly got raped. Both are very moving episodes. The one where we find out that Archie was abused as a child was also sad. I'm not a very emotional person if it's not "real life," but I always tear up at those episodes...That one where Archie nearly has a fling is also hard to watch, considering how sweet Edith is to him. The one where Beverly LaSalle gets murdered is also upsetting; I loved that character, even though (s)he was only on a couple of episodes.

Oh, and I almost forgot "Archie is Branded" where it ends with Archie saying that "they blew up his car." It ends without any applause from the audience... it's a very spine-chilling moment.

There are probably more, but those are the ones I can think of at the moment...I know these have been posted in this thread before, but I wanted to post them again with my own opinion.

[HelloLarry]

I guess its all how you look at a show like AITF. To me it was more than just a sitcom. Now if I'm watching the Munsters or Get Smart and a character on there gets cancer or raped, then yes I would have to agree that its a bit out of line for the boundries those series set.

However, I KNOW people like Archie and Edith and Mike. People like that really do exist so dealing with real issues or problems to me is appropriate ina forum like AITF. Those episodes to me are the most powerful of the series as it set that standard right out of the gate with the first episode. The ones that are just typical half-hour sitcoms (and they had many of those episodes as well) are still well done but not what the series is remembered for IMO.

MASH was the same way, although while it did start out as a typical sitcom it certainly didn't end up that way.

I think the person who used the term dramedy summed it up best.

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[mrbig]

Gloria was sexually assaulted in a previous Episode cuz when the police called the house and wanted edith to go down and identify him she was terried to do it gloria reminded her of when she was attacked...

[OKCRay]

Gloria was sexually assaulted in a previous Episode cuz when the police called the house and wanted edith to go down and identify him she was terried to do it gloria reminded her of when she was attacked...

Yep, and a big part of how that earlier episode played out was when the attorney visited the house and Gloria became unnerved when he demonstrated how the defense attorneys would spin the situation to make it look like she was asking for it.

[BensonFan]

Although some of the storylines could be pretty disturbing at times, the rape episode is the only one I can't bring myself to watch again. Hell, I don't even watch Lifetime.

[Edster2973]

Yep, and a big part of how that earlier episode played out was when the attorney visited the house and Gloria became unnerved when he demonstrated how the defense attorneys would spin the situation to make it look like she was asking for it.

You just hit the nail on the head. Even today most people think that women who are raped somehow must have asked for it or deserved it in some way because their clothes (or lack of same) revealed too much, or they were "teasing"/coming on to the guy. Believe it or not, back in the day women were being raped and the courts and police systems were not responding to these cases properly. Most of the time the men weren't even arrested, much less tried. Imagine being attacked and knowing your attacker is still out there, free to attack you again and again, and still the law saw you as one who deserved it. This was the primary reason they chose Edith to be the victim, because there is no way in hell that someone could rationalize that Edith deserved to be raped.

The show didn't just seek to make us laugh. It also wanted to educate and enlighten as well as provide humor. It's the basic premise of the show, given how they wrote Archie Bunker's bigotry in a way that made him look stupid for being so bigoted. It was pure genius for that alone, and on top of that, he was still likable, even though bigotry is the epitome of ugliness. It had several messages that resonated with real life. Every episode seemed to cover a social issue of some sort, whether it was equal pay for women (via Gloria, Irene Lorenzo and Edith), breast cancer (via Edith), infidelity (via both couples Archie & Edith and Mike & Gloria, unemployment woes, and a host of other topics, like homosexuality, racism (and how it exists on sides both white and black), feminism, male chauvinism, Nazism, murder, war, religion, atheism and adoption. Why not cover rape as well?

I agree with you that it was disturbing, but folks, it was supposed to be. You were supposed to watch that episode and be mad as hell. It's an evil that continues to exist today, and the show wanted to demonstrate the brutality of the attack, especially on one who didn't "ask for it." There was no better character to do that with. As powerful as the previous rape episode was with Gloria, it still didn't have the magnitude of a rape attack against Edith Bunker. I understand why the show opted for it, and also, artistically, it gave actress Jean Stapleton (and later, the rest of the cast) a chance to show that they could handle something this heavy. They were real pros for sure.

And just so you know, the fact that some of you can't bear to watch it means that you're one of the good guys. It is an appalling scene for sure. It hits a little too close to home, but until rape (and pedophilia) become a thing of the past, episodes like this will always have a need to be shown.

Just be grateful, some of you, if the only time you ever encounter the horrors of rape is through watching a sitcom...


Ed

[sugamama]

To this day I still find the Edith rape espisode hard to watch. But I think it is probably one the best AITF episodes. It helped to stress the point that you do not have to be "young and hot" to get raped. You got these fools out here raping old ladies and little kids. I was glad they brought that to light. I also liked that at the end they showed Edith going dime his a_ _ out.

[CTLucyfan]

I'm watching one now. Near the end of season 3 when Gloria is almost raped.

[MikeL]

i cant handle edith crises faith episode sorry but i cant handle it beverly being killed off beat by gangsters that hurt me i never can watch that episode ever again