ABC Upfront: Fall 2006

[Pavan]

Rough schedule leaked...and it looks to be very rough, ABC is keeping a lid on it:

Sundays
7:00PM America's Funniest Home Videos
8:00PM Extreme Makeover: Home Edition
9:00PM Desperate Housewives
10:00PM Six Degrees (NEW)

Mondays
8:00PM Wife Swap
9:00PM Supernanny
10:00PM The Bachelor

Tuesdays
8:00PM In Case of Emergency (NEW)
8:30PM Help Me Help You (NEW)
9:00PM Boston Legal
10:00PM Brothers AND Sisters (NEW)

Wednesdays
8:00PM Ugly Betty (NEW)
9:00PM Lost
10:00PM The Nine (NEW)

Thursdays
8:00PM Dancing with the Stars
9:30PM Let's Rob Mick Jagger (NEW)
10:00PM Grey's Anatomy

Fridays
8:00PM Dancing with the Stars: The Results
9:00PM Men in Trees (NEW)
10:00PM 20/20

Saturdays
8:00PM College Football


Stay tuned tomorrow morning at approx. 9am for the OFFICIAL line-up.

[Brent88]

WOW. I thought if Grey's was on Thursday it would air at 9 to prop up another new drama.

Anyway, it is very rough. Mondays look only average, if that's the actual schedule it will not challenge NBC and CBS only at 8pm(perhaps).

Ugly Betty? Looks like a flop.

Thursday and Sunday looks great, Friday looks good, what is "College Football" on Saturday?

[Pavan]

ABC is being very secretive. They have some interesting plan for Lost next season, that they will announce tomorrow. Mondays looks to be the most rough, I think that will change tomorrow. Ugly Betty has tested very well, and seems to be an addictive soap.

ABC will air College Football in the fall and more sports, like NASCAR on Saturdays. I don't know what they will do with According to Jim, GLo and What About Brian. Like I said...ABC has some stratgey that is secretive.

[Pavan]

Commander in Chief....might not be dead just yet. It could be back in some form.

[Brent88]

Commander in Chief....might not be dead just yet. It could be back in some form.

Please let this be true.

:D

[Brent88]

From Variety:

"McDreamy and Meredith are on the move.

In what will likely be the boldest move of upfrontupfront week, ABC is today expected to announce plans to move megahit "Grey's Anatomy" to Thursday nights in the fall.

Shift immediately shakes up the established order on a night coveted by networks because of the huge ad coincoin movie studios spend. Over the past 15 years, only NBC and CBS have been serious long-term players on Thursday, with the Eye now the dominant force.

If "Grey's" puts ABC in the game on Thursdays, net stands to reap tens if not hundreds of millions in added revenue over the long haul.

That ABC is moving "Grey's Anatomy" isn't itself a surprise, as there's been speculation about a shift for months. The stunner is the Alphabet's decision to go for the brass ring and move its hottest skeinskein to Thursday.

Most industry speculation had been focused on Monday nights, particularly after the net decided to air the show's second-season finale on the night.

Not immediately clear late Monday was whether "Grey's" will air at 9 or 10 p.m. on Thursday. ABC was keeping a tight lid on its schedule and refused to confirm or deny any moves.

However, there was word late Monday that "Commander in Chief" -- presumed to be dead -- may yet have a pulse. ABC is talking to some of the show's creative team and studio Touchstone TelevisionTouchstone Television about a way to keep it alive in some form.

As for "Grey's Anatomy," slotting the show at 10 p.m. would be the safest choice. NBC's "ER""ER" is fading, while there's been buzz that "Without a Trace""Without A Trace" could switch nights, perhaps to 9 p.m. Sundays. There's also no chance of Fox throwing a spoiler like "American Idol" or "House" into the mix, and sheer ratings would likely be higher at 10.

Under such a scenario, ABC could air a 90-minute version of variety hit "Dancing With the Stars" from 8-9:30 p.m., a new comedy at 9:30 and "Grey's" at 10.

Airing "Grey's Anatomy" at 9 p.m., meanwhile, would follow the CBS model for Thursday night.

Net changed the night forever in 2001 when it moved budding frosh hit "CSI" to 9 and aired the second season of reality smash "Survivor" at 8. It then slowly grew "Without a Trace" into a hit at 10.

ABC could keep "Dancing With the Stars" at 8 p.m. and slot a hot newcomer at 10. However, that move would mean pitting "Grey's Anatomy" against CBS' still-strong "CSI," perhaps reducing ratings for both.

Most radical scenario imaginable would have ABC shifting "Desperate Housewives" to Thursdays as well, essentially moving the bulk of its Sunday powerhouse lineup to a more lucrative night.

Net also could shift "Lost" to Thursdays, though such a move would mean giving the show its third timeslot in as many seasons.

Wherever "Lost" ends up, insiders indicate the network plans to answer fans' prayers by radically revamping the show's air pattern. Skein is expected to air in two big chunks of originals -- one in the fall and one in the spring. ABC then could launch a new show in the "Lost" timeslot come January.

ABC also plans to take a different approach to Saturday nights, at least in the fall. Net's struck a deal to air college football games on Saturdays.

As for the rest of the Alphabet skedsked, net has plenty to play with.

ABC has already ordered a whopping seven dramas and five comedies. New dramas include the family sudsersudser "Brothers & Sisters," the cop-on-the-run thriller "Day Break," the Alaska-set romantic comedy "Men in Trees," bank robbery entry "The Nine," the ensemble soap "Six Degrees," the terrorism whodunitwhodunit "Traveler""Traveler" and the telenovela adaptation "Ugly Betty."

"Betty""Betty" and "The Nine" seem good bets for fall, with "Betty" a possible 8 or 9 p.m. player. "The Nine" performed particularly well with test auds and could be a contender for a slot behind "Grey's Anatomy" if the latter skein settles in at 9 p.m.

On the comedy side, the Alphabet has in its arsenal the wedding-day snapshot "Big Day," therapy laffer "Help Me Help You," the thirtysomething friends entry "In Case of Emergency," the offbeat Mick Jagger caper from Burnett/Beckerman and the babycentric "Notes From the Underbelly."

"What About Brian" also will be back next season, as will "Dancing With the Stars" and reality shows "The Bachelor," "Supernanny" and "Wife Swap." "The Bachelor," which had a successful winter relaunch this year, will be back on the net's fall sked, perhaps on Mondays.

Also returning for the fall: newsmags "20/20" and "Primetime."

For the first time in more than 30 years, Alphabet will have to start a fall season with scripted skeins on Mondays, since "Monday Night Football" will move to ESPN. It seems likely net will keep a femme focus on the night. "Supernanny" and "Wife Swap" were sleepersleeper successes on Mondays in the spring, so ABC may play a pat hand and bring one or both back on the night.

While "Dancing" may keep its Thursday/Friday air pattern, there's been buzz that ABC could try a Wednesday/Thursday sked for the skein.

As for the "Grey's Anatomy" shift, nets rarely go for the gusto and make major game-changing moves like the "Grey's" Thursday shuffle -- but in many cases, the press frenzy that follows the shift helps ensure its success.

Take Fox's gutsy 1990 decision to shift "The Simpsons""The Simpsons" head on against NBC's "The Cosby Show." "Cosby" had been fading, and the upstart network detected an opening for younger auds. But Fox was still considered a wannabe net at that point -- and media outlets couldn't resist the David vs. Goliath battle that ensued.

Shift worked and was the first major scheduling move that turned Fox into one of the big boys.

More recently, CBS finally got into the Thursday game, after a decade as an also-ran on the night, by sensing a similar vulnerability on NBC in January 2001. Eye finally had the goods -- "Survivor" and "CSI" -- and in one swift move managed to alter the balance of power on the night.

"Survivor" and "CSI" didn't immediately win the night for CBS, but it helped crumble NBC's lock on Thursday. Eventually, the Eye pulled off a feat once thought impossible: winning Thursday night in the youthful 18-49 demo.

ABC has taken several stabs through the years at finally making some noise on Thursday. Net briefly broke through on the night at the start of this decade thanks to the "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" phenom. But that streak was short-lived.

Alphabet really hasn't had a consistent Thursday night since the late 1970s, when shows like "Mork & Mindy" gave the net a strong showing. But in a case of making a game-changing move that didn't work out, Alphabet shifted that Robin WilliamsRobin Williams show to Sunday, where it tanked. ABC quickly moved it back, but the damage was done. It's those kinds of risks in moving established hits that make network execs lose sleep."

[Raisingdad2004]

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/pr.aspx?id=20060516abc01 Its out.

[Brian Damage]

I've seen "Ugly Betty" before, I watched it on Univision or Telemundo when it was called "Betty La Fea." I was addicted to it. This is obviously a remake of that spanish speaking series. I heard rumors that Salma Hayek was attached to it. I don't know how true that is, but I loved the original.

[Pavan]

Scheduled to debut next season are six new comedy series -- "Betty the Ugly," "Big Day," "Help Me Help You," "In Case of Emergency," "Let's Rob..." and "Notes From the Underbelly," along with six new drama series -- "Brothers & Sisters," "Day Break," "Men in Trees," "The Nine," "Six Degrees" and "Traveler." Alternative series debuts will include "Set for the Rest of Your Life," "Just for Laughs" and "Greg Behrendt's Wake-Up Call."

In addition to the new series, ABC has ordered season renewals for "Grey's Anatomy," "Lost," "Desperate Housewives," "Boston Legal," "Dancing with the Stars," "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition," "George Lopez," "Supernanny," "What About Brian," "According to Jim," "America's Funniest Home Videos," "American Inventor," "The Bachelor" and "Wife Swap."

Also joining the fall schedule is "ABC Saturday Night College Football." Beginning SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 2, 2006 (8:00 p.m., ET), ABC Sports will televise 12 games, concluding with the Dr. Pepper Big 12 Championship game on SATURDAY, DECEMBER 2 (8:00 p.m., ET).

MONDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Wife Swap"
9:00 p.m. "The Bachelor"/"Supernanny"
10:00 p.m. "What About Brian"

TUESDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars" (new night)/"Set for the Rest of Your Life" (new alternative series)
9:00 p.m. "Let's Rob..." (new comedy series)
9:30 p.m. "Help Me Help You" (new comedy series)
10:00 p.m. "Boston Legal"

WEDNESDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars" (new night)/"George Lopez"/
"According to Jim" (new night)
9:00 p.m. "Lost"
10:00 p.m. "The Nine" (new drama series)

THURSDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Big Day" (new comedy series)
8:30 p.m. "Notes from the Underbelly" (new comedy series)
9:00 p.m. "Grey's Anatomy" (new night and time)
10:00 p.m. "Six Degrees" (new drama series)

FRIDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Betty the Ugly" (new comedy series)
9:00 p.m. "Men in Trees" (new drama series)
10:00 p.m. "20/20"

SATURDAY:
8:00 p.m. "ABC Saturday Night College Football"

SUNDAY:
7:00 p.m. "America's Funniest Home Videos"
8:00 p.m. "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
9:00 p.m. "Desperate Housewives"
10:00 p.m. "Brothers & Sisters" (new drama series)

Shows picked up but not listed on the schedule will debut later in the 2006-07 season.

[Pavan]

I've seen "Ugly Betty" before, I watched it on Univision or Telemundo when it was called "Betty La Fea." I was addicted to it. This is obviously a remake of that spanish speaking series. I heard rumors that Salma Hayek was attached to it. I don't know how true that is, but I loved the original.

Yes, she's the executive producer.

[Pavan]

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/05/abc-upfront-2006-07.html out blog post. Will be updated throughout the day...I have access to the upfront presentation today starting at 4 p.m., so I will let you all know what is said.

[TVJunkie101]

What are your thoughts on the schedule Pav?

Me? I like it, for the most part. A lot of new shows which is always risky. Grey's at 9PM is brilliant. I'll be watching Ugly Betty (I refuse to call it Betty the Ugly, should of kept the first name) on Fridays and of course will be watching Dancing with the Stars (I'm so happy it's not on Thursdays, but I think it should of been, it would of been a killer lead in to Grey's, sitcoms won't do it).

I see the sitcoms on Thursday bombing. I think the rest will be good to g.

And any news about Commander in Chief, Pav?

[Brent88]

This schedule sucks in some areas and in some it's really good.

Mondays-God, where to begin? Brian is not going to survive there. This is NBC's night now.

Tuesdays-Great... but once Dancing is over, the night collapses.

Wednesday-Good... but after Dancing, once again, 8pm is very weak.

Thursday-A HUGE risk. 9pm is going to be a warzone(and Grey's is going to be down in that timeslot). 8pm hour looks weak.

Friday-Not good.

Saturday-Interesting.

Sunday-Good, but I really think Football is going to hurt this night.

[TVFactFan]

Damm Less than Perfect didn;t make the schedule

[robyrob]

so other than GL, there are basically NO returning sitcoms?

looks like i will only be watching 2 hours of ABC a week then.

...and shouldn't it be 8:55pm for LOST, or are they going to give us a break?

[Pavan]

What are your thoughts on the schedule Pav?

Me? I like it, for the most part. A lot of new shows which is always risky. Grey's at 9PM is brilliant. I'll be watching Ugly Betty (I refuse to call it Betty the Ugly, should of kept the first name) on Fridays and of course will be watching Dancing with the Stars (I'm so happy it's not on Thursdays, but I think it should of been, it would of been a killer lead in to Grey's, sitcoms won't do it).

I see the sitcoms on Thursday bombing. I think the rest will be good to g.

And any news about Commander in Chief, Pav?

ABC decided to go with Grey's on Thursdays, so Mondays will be the same. If they had Grey's on Mondays, then Thursdays would have been dead, so it is OK because ABC Mondays isn't that bad right now. Their problem was Tuesdays and Thursdays, and I think they will be much better now there.

Mondays - I think it will do decent (Supernanny is a spoiler and is surprising) but I am not happy What About Brian is not getting a drama as its lead-in.
Tuesdays - Brilliant move by moving DwtS there. The game show for January looks good, and then DwtS is back in March probably (maybe on another night if AI is here). The two sitcoms should do OK and BL has proved it can do well at 10pm
Wednesdays - Results Show and Lost will be huge in the fall. The Nine will probably do well, too. George/Jim will return to the slot probably in December. George did well last fall in the slot, before AI came, so I expect it to do good again.
Thursdays - Nice flow! Two female oriented comedies, followed by a huge female oriented hit in GA, and then a high profile pilot from J.J. I think CSI will be down big next fall with GA and Studio 60 in the mix. I expect CSI to win the slot in total viewers, but GA has 18-49 locked in. If Without a Trace moves to another night, Six Degrees will likely be number one at 10pm over the aging ER.
Fridays - Risky airing two new shows back to back. Betty the Ugly has tested very very well. That, The Nine and Six Degrees are probably their best new fall shows. Brothers & Sisters too. Men in Trees is a good mix with Betty...this should be an addictive night, as both are soapy.
Saturdays - Good move actually. College Football will be good for them and now they should win most Saturdays.

As for Chief...ABC is working on a couple of movies (mini-series maybe) for it!

[Pavan]

Primetime Live is also not dead:

From: Westin, David L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Newsmagazines

The primetime schedule for this fall has been announced and I wanted to let you know that our two newsmagazines, 20/20 and Primetime, have been renewed for full seasons.

This means that each broadcast will be asked to produce at least 48 hours of news programming during the 2006-2007 season. 20/20 is scheduled for 10 PM Fridays. Primetime will continue on Thursday night into September. We expect that Primetime will be put in a new time period sometime later in the season – one in which Primetime and the overall primetime schedule will do the best for one another. Starting with the new season, Primetime will appear as special edition sometimes more than once a week.

I realize that this is a new way of configuring Primetime. It also provides us an opportunity to draw upon Primetime’s unique innovation, creativity, and skill in jumping on a big story. We will be looking for special stories and groups of stories that we can program together as limited series that draw special attention. If anything, we may see more hours of Primetime this fall than before – with special hours during the week.

It’s good to remember that Primetime was up 20 percent this past quarter – the biggest increase for any newsmagazine.

Bottom-line: both of our newsmagazines will be called upon to produce as much or even more programming in the coming year as we did during the 2005-2006 season. Our loyal audience can expect to see tremendous journalism from our whole team of correspondents and producers.

[Pavan]

Holy crap. Grey's Anatomy's 2-part finale clobbered CSI: Miami last night. I wasn't expecting it to win by that bug, but wow! 15.0/23 for the 10 p.m. hour for GA to Miami's 10.5/16. The 9 p.m. hour was also huge...13.2/19. I have no doubt now that GA will do very well on Thursdays.

[TVFactFan]

ABC decided to go with Grey's on Thursdays, so Mondays will be the same. If they had Grey's on Mondays, then Thursdays would have been dead, so it is OK because ABC Mondays isn't that bad right now. Their problem was Tuesdays and Thursdays, and I think they will be much better now there.

Mondays - I think it will do decent (Supernanny is a spoiler and is surprising) but I am not happy What About Brian is not getting a drama as its lead-in.
Tuesdays - Brilliant move by moving DwtS there. The game show for January looks good, and then DwtS is back in March probably (maybe on another night if AI is here). The two sitcoms should do OK and BL has proved it can do well at 10pm
Wednesdays - Results Show and Lost will be huge in the fall. The Nine will probably do well, too. George/Jim will return to the slot probably in December. George did well last fall in the slot, before AI came, so I expect it to do good again.
Thursdays - Nice flow! Two female oriented comedies, followed by a huge female oriented hit in GA, and then a high profile pilot from J.J. I think CSI will be down big next fall with GA and Studio 60 in the mix. I expect CSI to win the slot in total viewers, but GA has 18-49 locked in. If Without a Trace moves to another night, Six Degrees will likely be number one at 10pm over the aging ER.
Fridays - Risky airing two new shows back to back. Betty the Ugly has tested very very well. That, The Nine and Six Degrees are probably their best new fall shows. Brothers & Sisters too. Men in Trees is a good mix with Betty...this should be an addictive night, as both are soapy.
Saturdays - Good move actually. College Football will be good for them and now they should win most Saturdays.

As for Chief...ABC is working on a couple of movies (mini-series maybe) for it!


I wish Desperate Houswives was on a Tuesday or Wednesday Night since my attention will be focused on Sunday Night Football during the fall

[Brent88]

Holy crap. Grey's Anatomy's 2-part finale clobbered CSI: Miami last night. I wasn't expecting it to win by that bug, but wow! 15.0/23 for the 10 p.m. hour for GA to Miami's 10.5/16. The 9 p.m. hour was also huge...13.2/19. I have no doubt now that GA will do very well on Thursdays.

Yeah, but it'll be facing CSI. I have no doubt it'll do very well, but it won't beat it, and I expect it to be down.

Oh and another note, Studio 60 is DOA! It won't survive CSI and Grey's. :lol:

[Pavan]

Yeah, I know it won't beat CSI. See my thoughts above. It'll be best for the future, when CSI goes downhill, GA can be the timeslot leader. Sort of like how Without a Trace has done with ER.

[dawsongirl]

I hope CSI kills Grey's Anatomy. :devil:

[Superstar]

No more Less Than Perfect :(

[Superbowl]

Personally, I think this ABC schedule stinks. I won't be watching very much which is fine. I don't really like those single camera sitcoms much, and thanks to McPherson most of their sitcoms were canceled the past two years. I much prefer the traditional multi camera sitcoms.

I think ABC is a network relying on just a few shows to carry it. The only shows they really have that appeal to lots of people are Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Lost and Dancing With The Stars. Other than that their programming is basically garbage. I bet we are here next year, and ABC will be canceling most of their new stuff, and bringing in a whole new batch again.

[Stuck In The '70's]

Personally, I think this ABC schedule stinks. I won't be watching very much which is fine. I don't really like those single camera sitcoms much, and thanks to McPherson most of their sitcoms were canceled the past two years. I much prefer the traditional multi camera sitcoms.

I think ABC is a network relying on just a few shows to carry it. The only shows they really have that appeal to lots of people are Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Lost and Dancing With The Stars. Other than that their programming is basically garbage. I bet we are here next year, and ABC will be canceling most of their new stuff, and bringing in a whole new batch again.
I don't know. Six Degrees and Brothers And Sisters look interesting to me. I'll probably give them a try. I doubt any of the sitcoms will be big hits though. I'm not interested in ABC's Monday lineup. I guess its good counter programming but it's not my cup of tea.

[Pavan]

Personally, I think this ABC schedule stinks. I won't be watching very much which is fine. I don't really like those single camera sitcoms much, and thanks to McPherson most of their sitcoms were canceled the past two years. I much prefer the traditional multi camera sitcoms.

I think ABC is a network relying on just a few shows to carry it. The only shows they really have that appeal to lots of people are Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, Lost and Dancing With The Stars. Other than that their programming is basically garbage. I bet we are here next year, and ABC will be canceling most of their new stuff, and bringing in a whole new batch again.

The dramas will all do well. The Nine, Six Degrees, Brothers & Sisters especially will probably become big hits. Those 4 shows you mentioned, uh of course they will use them to launch shows. Those 4 are all top 10 shows, so it makes sense to me to try and make other hits out of them. The comedies on Tuesday could get a 7 rating after DwtS. The Thursday comedies if they do a 6 rating, ABC will be pleased. 8:30pm will be higher because of the GA halo effect. This schedule could heavily have no wholes, and should all do well in 18-49. It'll be interesting how the Friday shows do, though. Hit or miss.

[Superbowl]

The dramas may do well, but the sitcoms will probably fail. Rememeber, Crumbs could not hold the Dancing With The Stars audience and got canceled. That will probably happen to most of these new sitcoms, too. When was the last time ABC added a hit sitcom ?

[Pavan]

Maybe this fall will be the year for them for a hit sitcom. I'm watching their upfront presentation right now via closed circuit feed, and the programs look great. McPherson is about to announce the lineup.

[Pavan]

They just said ABC is now the #1 rated channel among upscale viewers. Impressive since 3 years ago they were terrible everywhere. Gains over 25% in total viewers, 18-49 from 2 years ago--most of any network in the last 20 years

[Pavan]

Hey Solomon, are you going to watch Men in Trees? John Amos is in it.

[GoldenFamilyTies]

Looks like I'll be watching DH and Betty The Ugly.

I don't know if I can ever watch an ABC sitcom again. They'll all just get cancelled anyways, so why even bother getting into any of them...

[TVFactFan]

Hey Solomon, are you going to watch Men in Trees? John Amos is in it.


Is it a Sitcom?

[Seth]

Thursday
9:00 p.m. "Grey's Anatomy" (new night and time)

Hooo boy.

[Seth]

I hope CSI kills Grey's Anatomy. :devil:

And I don't. I can't be the ONLY one who's had it up to their eyeballs with all these procedural shows that are pretty much the exact same every episode

[TVFactFan]

What the Hell is Betty the Ugly supposed to be about?

[Pavan]

Is it a Sitcom?


No, a drama. Soap type.

[TVFactFan]

No, a drama. Soap type.



It has to atleast be a dramedy for me to watch like Desperate Houswives

[Brent88]

No, a drama. Soap type.

It sounds awful. DH is a good soap, this sounds like a just plain terrible soap. :lol:

[troopoleon8897]

My ABC schedule

Sundays
7:00-AFV
9:00-Desperate Housewives
10:00-Brothers & Sisters

Tuesdays
9:00-Let's Rob...
9:30-Help Me Help You
10:00-Boston Legal

Wednesday
8:30-According To Jim
9:00-Lost
10:00-The Nine

Thursdays
8:00-Big Day
9:00-Grey's Anatomy

Fridays
8:00-Betty The Ugly
9:00-Men In Trees

Notes from the underbelly looks horable to me so thats the only sitcom i probally wont check out this season...

[Mister Ed]

What happened to Freddie? I thought it was approved for a second season! :(

[Scoobiedoo30]

I am glad that ABC is going to have College Football from 7:00 pm until Approximate 10:30 pm Central Time

[Stuck In The '70's]

What happened to Freddie? I thought it was approved for a second season! :(
It's been canceled.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I hope that Untitled Patricia Heaton Show get's Picked up
for Midseason.

[Brent88]

No. Patricia Heaton is not picked up. The midseason shows are already determined.

[dawsongirl]

Looks like ABC is turning into the soap channel, much like CBS is the procedural drama channel.

[Raisingdad2004]

Their sitcoms sound good, I will check those out - but they don't seem to have the next 'Friends', or even 'Two and a 1/2 Men'. Nothing in the drama's section for me - all seem to be too gritty or just another 'What about Brian' with a guy moaning about his life.

[TJL]

Hey! What happened to Freddy?

;)

[Scoobiedoo30]

I will miss Freddy on The Wednesday Night Schedule

[Pavan]

Hey! What happened to Freddy?

;)

Freddie got fingered.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I sure hope that George Lopez Returns during The Midseason Schedule

[Brent88]

I sure hope that George Lopez Returns during The Midseason Schedule

Yes... Wednesday at 8 after DWTS is over.

[Scoobiedoo30]

Thanks for letting me know that The George Lopez Will be Returning After Dancing With The Starts is over

[Brent88]

Freddie got fingered.

:rotflmao:

[Scoobiedoo30]

What do you mean by Freddie is Fingered

[Seth]

Having also had the priveledge to see the ABC upfront presentation this year, most of the new shows definitely have a lot of promise. That being said, the watch/record schedule IS:

TUESDAY:
9:00 p.m. "Let's Rob..." (new comedy series)
9:30 p.m. "Help Me Help You" (new comedy series)
10:00 p.m. "Boston Legal"

WEDNESDAY:
10:00 p.m. "The Nine" (new drama series)

THURSDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Big Day" (new comedy series)
8:30 p.m. "Notes from the Underbelly" (new comedy series)
Due to Earl and particularly The Office, these will DEFINITELY be for-later shows. As for Grey, I just kinda got...out...of it this year. Seems like...something...changed.
10:00 p.m. "Six Degrees" (new drama series)

FRIDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Betty the Ugly" (new comedy series)
I usually just read SmackDown spoilers before-the-fact anyway, and this looks interesting. I just hope it doesn't get all moany, whiny, and up it's own behind, otherwise, my remote'll be flipping back to CW quickly.

SATURDAY:
8:00 p.m. "ABC Saturday Night College Football"

SUNDAY
10:00 p.m. "Brothers & Sisters" (new drama series)

[Sal]

MONDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Wife Swap"
9:00 p.m. "The Bachelor"/"Supernanny"
10:00 p.m. "What About Brian"


What a load of garbage! They should have tried harder to keep "Monday Night Football".



TUESDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars"/"Set for the Rest of Your Life"
9:00 p.m. "Let's Rob..."
9:30 p.m. "Help Me Help You"
10:00 p.m. "Boston Legal"


This should be a strong night for ABC, mainly because of weak competiton, so the new comedies could do well here. This also would have been a good spot to put in Patricia Heaton's new show. I'm very surprised she didn't even rate a mid-season spot. Maybe next year she could try again, re-unite with Ray Romano, and do a sitcom about a married couple who work in a hospital. I would call it "Ray's Anatomy".



WEDNESDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Dancing with the Stars"/"George Lopez"/"According to Jim"
9:00 p.m. "Lost"
10:00 p.m. "The Nine"


"George Lopez" and "According To Jim" are still on? Why, Oh Lord, why? Talk about feeling "Lost"!



THURSDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Big Day"
8:30 p.m. "Notes from the Underbelly"
9:00 p.m. "Grey's Anatomy"
10:00 p.m. "Six Degrees"


This is where ABC took their biggest gamble, moving "Grey's Anatomy" to Thursdays at 9. It should beat NBC's new "Studio 60" but will need some luck to overtake "CSI", and the new sitcoms will need a major miracle to beat some heavy competition at 8:00.



FRIDAY:
8:00 p.m. "Betty the Ugly"
9:00 p.m. "Men in Trees"
10:00 p.m. "20/20"


"Betty The Ugly"? "Men In Trees"? Who came up with these dumb titles? Sorry, ABC. I'll be watching "Deal Or No Deal".





SATURDAY:
8:00 p.m. "ABC Saturday Night College Football"


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....booooooorrrrring!

You can have your college football. Where I come from, Saturday night is hockey night!


SUNDAY:
7:00 p.m. "America's Funniest Home Videos"
8:00 p.m. "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
9:00 p.m. "Desperate Housewives"
10:00 p.m. "Brothers & Sisters"


"Desperate Housewives" is back! That's all I need to know.

Now, for you NFL fans (Go Cowboys!) who also love DH, here's an easy plan to follow. At 8, go to NBC and catch the first half. At halftime, switch to ABC. When DH ends, go back and watch the last part of the game, which normally doesn't get interesting until the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter. In other words, you won't miss much! This is why God invented VCRs!

[Pavan]

The real night game is on Monday night, so NBC's Sunday night game is not the real deal I think. It will be no where near the MNF ratings of ABC.

[Stuck In The '70's]

The real night game is on Monday night, so NBC's Sunday night game is not the real deal I think. It will be no where near the MNF ratings of ABC.
Yea but they're going to have the marquee games. I hear they'll even get to change games late in the season so the top teams will be on. Plus they got John Madden and Al Michaels. I don't like ESPN's announcers.

[Brent88]

The real night game is on Monday night, so NBC's Sunday night game is not the real deal I think. It will be no where near the MNF ratings of ABC.

I'm inclined to agree with you, but I think it will be a VERY close call on Sundays 9-11.

If FOX comedies remain at 9... I see DH(19-20 million) beating Football by only 1-2 million(17-18 million) on an average night. I see Football beating WAT but only by a small margin(some nights WAT will beat Football if the game is boring).

I see WAT being closer to 17 million. It gets 19 million now with CSI as a lead-in.

Brothers and Sisters is going to struggle, but will do decent. I see 14-15 million, and maybe lower depending on how good it is.

[Brent88]

Yea but they're going to have the marquee games. I hear they'll even get to change games late in the season so the top teams will be on. Plus they got John Madden and Al Michaels. I don't like ESPN's announcers.

Yeah, during November Sweeps they get full discretion(as long as the game is on Sunday, whether it's originally at 1pm ET or 4pm) to move it to Primetime.

[Wings#1ShowPeriod]

Yea but they're going to have the marquee games. I hear they'll even get to change games late in the season so the top teams will be on. Plus they got John Madden and Al Michaels. I don't like ESPN's announcers.

True, I thought the exact same thing.. Sunday Night Football was going to be average but looking at some of the match ups, are good ones..

Current Sunday Schedule for NBC

Week #1- 9/10
Indianapolis at N.Y. Giants 8:15 p.m.

Week #2- 9/17
Washington at Dallas 8:15 p.m.

Week #3- 9/24
Denver at New England 8:15 p.m

Week #4- 10/1
Seattle at Chicago 8:15 p.m.

Week #5- 10/8
Pittsburgh at San Diego 8:15 p.m.

Week #6- 10/15
Oakland at Denver 8:15 p.m.

Week #7- 10/22
No Game Scheduled at 8:15 p.m

Week #8- 10/29
Dallas at Carolina 8:15 p.m.

Week #9- 9/5
Indianapolis at New England 8:15 p.m.

Week #10- Week #17 [Except Week 16]
-One of the Sunday games will move to 8:15 p.m. Sunday night.

Dang, CBS is going to have the Superbowl this year..

[Stuck In The '70's]

True, I thought the exact same thing.. Sunday Night Football was going to be average but looking at some of the match ups, are good ones..

Current Sunday Schedule for NBC

Week #1- 9/10
Indianapolis at N.Y. Giants 8:15 p.m.

Week #2- 9/17
Washington at Dallas 8:15 p.m.

Week #3- 9/24
Denver at New England 8:15 p.m

Week #4- 10/1
Seattle at Chicago 8:15 p.m.

Week #5- 10/8
Pittsburgh at San Diego 8:15 p.m.

Week #6- 10/15
Oakland at Denver 8:15 p.m.

Week #7- 10/22
No Game Scheduled at 8:15 p.m

Week #8- 10/29
Dallas at Carolina 8:15 p.m.

Week #9- 9/5
Indianapolis at New England 8:15 p.m.

Week #10- Week #17 [Except Week 16]
-One of the Sunday games will move to 8:15 p.m. Sunday night.

Dang, CBS is going to have the Superbowl this year..
Yea that's a great lineup. I think the ratings will depend on which teams play each week but I know I'll be watching a lot of those games and I like the shows on the other networks too. Dallas will be on 2 of those Sunday night games. I'd never miss that. :lol:

[Dragonflies]

I'm gonna miss Less Than Perfect :(

[Scoobiedoo30]

I am also Gonna Miss Less Then Perfect.

[Pavan]

There will be a promo for Brothers & Sisters during the Lost season finale at the end this Wednesday. There already was a promo for Six Degrees on Monday at the end of Grey's Anatomy. I'm not sure what fall promo(s) will air yet during the DH finale.

[Brent88]

There will be a promo for Brothers & Sisters during the Lost season finale at the end this Wednesday. There already was a promo for Six Degrees on Monday at the end of Grey's Anatomy. I'm not sure what fall promo(s) will air yet during the DH finale.

Thanks for the info.

There's a Betty the Ugly clip from the Upfronts. It looks MUCH better than I was expecting.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PpgsH0StiGg&search=Betty%20the%20Ugly

[Pavan]

Brothers & Sisters promo will air during the end of DH too.

[Adamantium]

I'm gonna miss Less Than Perfect :(

I agree. Although I saw it coming. This is one of the few shows that started this decade that I consider a classic. Not in terms of popularity, obviously, but in terms of a quality program.

[Wings#1ShowPeriod]

I'm glad that George Lopez is back, looking forward to The Nine and Six Degrees.

[db108108]

I agree. Although I saw it coming. This is one of the few shows that started this decade that I consider a classic. Not in terms of popularity, obviously, but in terms of a quality program.

I don't know if I would consider it a classic, but it was definitely one of the best sitcoms of this decade. But then again, considering the quality of sitcoms lately...

[Wings#1ShowPeriod]

I'm glad that George Lopez is back, looking forward to The Nine and Six Degrees.

Also looking forward to Traveler.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I am going to Check out Traveler also

[Pavan]

Fall promos will start really tonight for ABC. A promo for Betty the Ugly will air during the end of the Alma Awards. And promos for The Nine and Six Degrees will air during Nightline and Kimmel the next two nights. Brothers & Sisters will get a few promos during Kimmel on Wednesday, the other two series as well.

[Pavan]

This doesn't have to do with the fall, but ABC will burn-off The Evidence starting this Saturdays--Saturdays at 10 p.m.

Let's Rob promos during game one of the NBA Finals on Thursday:

----------- NBA FINALS ----------------------- 9:07 PM------
PROMO :30 02P MASTER OF CHAMPIONS(2WK)
PROMO :15 051 20/20(FRI)
PROMO :15 071 ESPN(TOM)
PROMO :30 082 6 DEGREES(FAL)
PROMO :30 091 HOW TO GET THE GUY(D/D)
MID PROMO :30 THE ONE: MKNG MUSIC(JUL)
PROMO :15 121 LETS ROB(FAL)
MID PROMO :15 LETS ROB(FAL)
PROMO :30 141 THE NINE(FAL)
15P(L)PSA :15 A BETTER COMMUNITY
PROMO :15 16P MASTER OF CHAMPIONS(D/D)
ABC ID :03 ABC LOGO(GEN)
END PRM-1 :15 JIMMY KIMMEL(TON)
END PRM-2 :15 BARCLAYS CLASSIC-PGA/BARCLAYS CLASSIC-PGA(THWND)

[Amy340]

Is there any chance at all that they'll burn off the remaining episodes of Jake In Progress eventually??

[Pavan]

I don't think they will burn any off of that or Crumbs.

I posted my predictions for ABC's fall premiere dates here:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=167865

Also, I saw on some message board (via a link from someone) about a person or two saying that our rough leaked schedules before upfront are made up. Whoever said that is totally wrong. I get them from people at the networks a day or so before the actual upfronts, and I can't help if they change it some or totally, but the schedules are true "work in progress" skeds. Some years they haven't changed anything, like ABC's 2005 schedule was right on money, but I don't think many people realize that the schedules are changed so much before the upfront day. Why do you think I say "rough" schedules? I frankly think it is interesting to see what else they were thinking of doing. If these people don't, that's fine, but accusing of posting false schedules is unprofessional, because these schedules are "not made up." I wouldn't even think of doing that--I've been with SitcomsOnline for over 6 years, no need for me to ruin my reputation. Thought I'd clear that up.

[Pavan]

Fall premiere dates announced!

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/07/tca-tour-abc-day-1-nicknite-september.html

[Scoobiedoo30]

Thanks For Letting uas know The Dates of when The ABC Show's will be Debuting This Fall

[Pavan]

ABC press tour day 2:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/07/tca-tour-abc-day-2-in2tv-spanish.html

[Scoobiedoo30]

can someone let me know if ABC will still have College Football during The Day on Saturday's at 11:00 am and 2:30 pm

[Pavan]

Been messing with this, and I thought I'd post what I think will happen this season on ABC...

Here is what I would do later on in the season:

Sundays
7:00PM AFV
8:00PM EM: HE
9:00PM DH
10:00PM Brothers & Sisters
Secrets of a Small Town *MIGHT* be in contention again, so I would give
it a post DH slot for its premiere, in say January, and move it to
Mondays.

Mondays
8:00PM Wife Swap
9:00PM Secrets of a Small Town (Jan-May?)
10:00PM What About Brian / Men in Trees (Jan?)
Brian is going to be much much better this year. And I liked it last
season!

Tuesdays
8:00PM Dancing with the Stars (Sept-Nov Mar-May I guess) / Set for the
Rest of Your Life (Jan-Feb)
9:00PM Knights of Prosperity
9:30PM Help Me Help You / In Case of Emergency (March?)
10:00PM Boston Legal / October Road (March?)
They have that game show Set for the Rest of your Life coming in
January to give Dancing a break. Emergency comes later in the year to
give Help Me a little break. Maybe October Road, since it might be in
contention, could give Boston a bit of a break when it is in reruns.

Wednesdays
8:00PM Dancing with the Stars: The Results (Sept-Nov, Mar-May) /
Supernanny (Jan-Feb)
9:00PM Lost (Oct-Nov, Feb-May) / Day Break (Nov-Jan)
10:00PM The Nine (Oct-Feb) / Traveler (Feb?)
Lost will be back in early February, that is when they should try
Traveler right after it. Jim/George are expected to air in Jan and Feb,
but I doubt it...maybe Supernanny would move here for those months.

Thursdays
8:00PM Ugly Betty (Jan?)
9:00PM Grey's Anatomy
10:00PM Six Degrees

Fridays
8:00PM Wake Up-Call (Jan)
9:00PM Just for Laughs / According to Jim
9:30PM Just for Laughs / George Lopez
10:00PM 20/20

Saturdays
College Football and NASCAR

They might do a TV-movie project for the unsold pilot A House Divided.
Commander in Chief TV-movie could also air.

[Scoobiedoo30]

The ABC Schedule loos Awsome and I think that The ABC Televison Network will win The November Feburary and May ratings Sweeps Period

[Pavan]

I got a hold of the Secrets of a Small Town pilot, and I have to say why didn't ABC pick this up??? It is GREAT!! It's very addictive. Twin Peaks fans would love it. ABC is in talks to pick it up, possibly for mid-season. I hope they do it. I think it would work after DH or even Mondays at 9, like I mentioned on my thought post earlier today.

Some others have seen it to it seems. tv.com's forum has talk on the pilot:
http://www.tv.com/secrets-of-a-small-town/show/58470/possibilities/topic/76739-297100/msgs.html&msg_id=4037527

[Pavan]

The premiere date for “Boston Legal” will be on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 at 10:00 PM ET/PT.
The previously advised premiere date was on Tuesday, September 26, 2006.

[Scoobiedoo30]

So Boston Leagal is Debuting a week early then it was scheduled to

[Pavan]

Change to ABC Fall:

Thursdays, starting Thurs., Sept. 28:
8:00pm Ugly Betty
9:00pm Grey's Antomy (premieres Sept. 21)
10:00pm Six Degrees (premieres Sept. 21)

Fridays, starting Fri. Sept. 22
8:00pm America's Funniest Home Videos
9:00pm Men in Trees
10:00pm 20/20 (premieres Sept. 8)

I think they need to move Men in Trees because it is being wasted now on Fridays. It is a good show. More info:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/08/tv-land-and-nicknite-changes-schedule.html

[TVJunkie101]

That sucks about Ugly Betty moving. It was perfect - for me - on Fridays. My #1 priority on Thursdays @ 8 is Survivor... hopefully Betty can survive long enough there...

[Pavan]

Forgot to post the press release. No other outlets have picked up on it, it seems. So we have an exclusive!!

“UGLY BETTY” GETS THE CALL TO LEAD-OFF ABC’S THURSDAY NIGHTS



ABC announced today it is shifting the hour-long series “Ugly Betty” to Thursdays, leading into critically acclaimed hit, “Grey’s Anatomy.” “Ugly Betty” will premiere THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2006 from 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET.



“Ugly Betty,” the highly anticipated American take on the international phenomenon from executive producer Salma Hayek, has been well received by critics, advertisers and others who have previewed the pilot. Encouraged by the early positive response, ABC will move “Ugly Betty” from its previously announced Friday timeslot (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET).



Comedies “Big Day” and “Notes from the Underbelly” will now kick off later in the fall after Dancing With the Stars completes its run.



America’s Funniest Home Videos will continue to do double duty on Fridays and Sundays as it has been doing since March.

[Pavan]

I think they will put new episodes of AFV on Fridays and air repeats on Sundays. That might be the best option. Or we can see another change soon, with maybe EM: HE to 7pm Sunday? And maybe Men in Trees to 8pm Sunday? Should be interesting. Then I would think 9pm Friday would be George/Jim.

[Superbowl]

So ABC basically has now pushed aside (at least temporarily) 2 of its 4 sitcoms on its Fall schedule. According to my recollection they now only have two sitcoms (Knights of Prosperity & Help You, Help Me) on their Fall schedule. All the other new sitcoms (and two returning sitcoms) will debut later in the season. I am sure they will all probably have between 2-13 weeks runs and all be canceled. This ABC is a bunch of morons. They would not know a good sitcom if they fell over it. I think this is an insult to sitcom lovers such as myself. ABC only cares about their dramas and their search for the next hit. Thank goodness we have CBS, NBC and hopefully FOX to give us sitcom lovers something to watch.

[troopoleon8897]

Hopefully I wont get in trouble for this but Im guessing that by January(I know its far ahead) this will be the schedule (including your predictions pav):

Sunday
7:00 - EM: Home Edition
8:00 - Men In Trees
9:00 - Desperate Housewives
10:00 - Secrets Of A Small Town

Monday
8:00 - Wife Swap
9:00 - What About Brian?
10:00 - Brothers & Sisters

Tuesday
8:00 - Big Day (13 Eps then DWTS returns)
8:30 - Notes From The Underbelly (13 Eps then DWTS returns)
9:00 - The Knights Of Prosperity
9:30 - Help Me Help You
10:00 - Boston Legal

Wednesday
8:00 - American Inventor (13 Eps then DWTS returns)
9:00 - LOST
10:00 - Traveler (The Nine returns after 13 episodes of this)

Thursdays
8:00 - The Patrica Heaton Show (Ugly Betty Returns After 13 episodes)
8:30 - Women Of A Certain Age (Ugly Betty Returns After 13 episodes)
9:00 - Grey's Anatomy
10:00 - Six Degrees

Friday
8:00 - AFV
9:00 - George Lopez
9:30 - According To Jim
10:00 - A House Devided or October Road

Saturday
8:00 - Drama Repeats
9:00 - Drama Repeats
10:00 - 20/20 & Primetime (20/20 usually, somtimes primetime)

What do people think?

[Pavan]

They're not going to pick up Heaton and Locklear's projects. Heaton's is being reworked but it won't be for this season. ABC Tuesday at 8pm will be the game show Set For Your Life. I think Big Day/Underbelly might be Wednesdays 8-9p or even Thursdays 8-9p in December/Jan.

[Pavan]

So ABC basically has now pushed aside (at least temporarily) 2 of its 4 sitcoms on its Fall schedule. According to my recollection they now only have two sitcoms (Knights of Prosperity & Help You, Help Me) on their Fall schedule. All the other new sitcoms (and two returning sitcoms) will debut later in the season. I am sure they will all probably have between 2-13 weeks runs and all be canceled. This ABC is a bunch of morons. They would not know a good sitcom if they fell over it. I think this is an insult to sitcom lovers such as myself. ABC only cares about their dramas and their search for the next hit. Thank goodness we have CBS, NBC and hopefully FOX to give us sitcom lovers something to watch.

Knights of Prosperity is by far the best new sitcom. The stuff NBC and Fox is shelving are terrible. CBS is just giving The Class, and the pilot was OK, but hopefully it gets better. NBC's 20 Good Years is very bad. 30 Rock isn't my cup of tea, but I think fans of Earl and Office will love it. Fox's two sitcoms...well Brad Garrett should be ashamed, that pilot was obnoxious, maybe a Raymond curse will be next.

So ABC will have 2 new sitcoms in early fall, NBC also two, Fox two and CBS one. So what is your point? ABC still has 3 new sitcoms coming, plus Jim/George. There are not a lot of sitcoms on any network. Dramas are pulling in ratings and not to mention they have been very good in the last few years.

[troopoleon8897]

They're not going to pick up Heaton and Locklear's projects. Heaton's is being reworked but it won't be for this season. ABC Tuesday at 8pm will be the game show Set For Your Life. I think Big Day/Underbelly might be Wednesdays 8-9p or even Thursdays 8-9p in December/Jan.

I can dream can't I? lol... I just think I would like those two way better than the two they already have... and i hope they don't put the two comedys before LOST they just don't work together and it would be a waste of a perfect lead in...

[troopoleon8897]

Knights of Prosperity is by far the best new sitcom. The stuff NBC and Fox is shelving are terrible. CBS is just giving The Class, and the pilot was OK, but hopefully it gets better. NBC's 20 Good Years is very bad. 30 Rock isn't my cup of tea, but I think fans of Earl and Office will love it. Fox's two sitcoms...well Brad Garrett should be ashamed, that pilot was obnoxious, maybe a Raymond curse will be next.

So ABC will have 2 new sitcoms in early fall, NBC also two, Fox two and CBS one. So what is your point? ABC still has 3 new sitcoms coming, plus Jim/George. There are not a lot of sitcoms on any network. Dramas are pulling in ratings and not to mention they have been very good in the last few years.

Out of all the new sitcoms coming this year this is what i heard:

Successful
The Knights Of Prosperity
20 Good Years

Moderate
The Class
Help Me Help You
30 Rock
And Barker, P.I.
The Singles Table
Big Day
In Case Of Emergency
'Til Death
The Winner

Failure
Notes From An Underbelly
Happy Hour
The Game

So Im rather suprised you said twenty good years is horrible...

[Pavan]

I agree they should have picked those two sitcoms over them. Even though I didn't see them. I saw Big Day and Underbelly, they were OK. I bet females would like them, but I couldn't get into them much.
What I would do mid-season:

Sunday
7:00 - EM: Home Edition (new slot effect. Jan)
8:00 - Men In Trees (would air Fridays at 9 Sept-Nov)
9:00 - Desperate Housewives
10:00 - Brothers & Sisters

Monday
8:00 - Wife Swap / Supernanny
9:00 - Secrets of a Small Town (effect. Jan)
10:00 - What About Brian

Tuesday
8:00 - Set for the Rest of Your Life (Jan-Feb); DwTS (Mar-May)
9:00 - The Knights Of Prosperity
9:30 - Help Me Help You
10:00 - Boston Legal / October Road

Wednesday
8:00 - American Inventor (Jan-Feb); DwTS (Mar-May)
9:00 - Daybreak (Nov-Jan); Lost (Returns in early Feb)
10:00 - The Nine (Sept-Jan); Traveler (premieres in early Feb)
I'm betting Traveler will do HUGE and will last until May.

Thursdays
8:00 - Big Day (Dec-Jan) / Ugly Betty returns in Feb.
8:30 - Notes from the Underbelly (Dec-Jan)
9:00 - Grey's Anatomy
10:00 - Six Degrees

Friday
8:00 - AFV (Sept-Dec, Mar-May); Wake up Call (Jan-Feb)
9:00 - George Lopez (Dec-Mar); Just for Laughs (April)
9:30 - According To Jim (Dec-Mar); Just for Laughs (April)
10:00 - 20/20

Saturday
8:00 - NASCAR/Movies

[Pavan]

Out of all the new sitcoms coming this year this is what i heard:

Successful
The Knights Of Prosperity
20 Good Years

Moderate
The Class
Help Me Help You
30 Rock
And Barker, P.I.
The Singles Table
Big Day
In Case Of Emergency
'Til Death
The Winner

Failure
Notes From An Underbelly
Happy Hour
The Game

So Im rather suprised you said twenty good years is horrible...


Who is saying 20 Good Years is good? TV Guide even bashed it. I think Knights of Prosperity and 30 Rock have gotten the best reviews among the sitcoms.

[troopoleon8897]

Who is saying 20 Good Years is good? TV Guide even bashed it. I think Knights of Prosperity and 30 Rock have gotten the best reviews among the sitcoms.

Thefutoncritic said it was good and and internet friend and a friend i know both saw the pilot and said it was a great comedy, just what you would expect from both the leads (and Im a fan of both their previous works)...When did TV giude talk about them? do you know if the article is up online?

[Pavan]

TheFutonCritic also said they hated Ugly Betty, which is so strange because every other outlet LOVED it. I liked it, too. They loved Knights of Prosperity though, so they have some taste at least.

Here is what TV Guide said about 20 Good Years:
TWENTY GOOD YEARS PRESENTATION
4:04 pm: Call it "Golden Guys," starring John Lithgow and Jeffrey Tambor. Or just call it what I did after watching the pilot: "Twenty-Two Unfunny Minutes."

4:06 pm: Jeffrey Tambor has pulled off the incredible feat of going from the best comedy on network TV to the worst — all in the same year. That must be some kind of record.

4:14 pm: Executive producer Tom Werner showed the pilot to his teenage son and he loved it. So that's the audience for this show.

4:19 pm: I think John Lithgow just said this show was "wonderfully written." Now there's a statement that demands a follow-up joke about crack.

4:29 pm: An NBC publicist interrupts the session with eight of the most beautiful words I have ever heard: "That's all the time we have for today."

[troopoleon8897]

TheFutonCritic also said they hated Ugly Betty, which is so strange because every other outlet LOVED it. I liked it, too. They loved Knights of Prosperity though, so they have some taste at least.

Here is what TV Guide said about 20 Good Years:
TWENTY GOOD YEARS PRESENTATION
4:04 pm: Call it "Golden Guys," starring John Lithgow and Jeffrey Tambor. Or just call it what I did after watching the pilot: "Twenty-Two Unfunny Minutes."

4:06 pm: Jeffrey Tambor has pulled off the incredible feat of going from the best comedy on network TV to the worst — all in the same year. That must be some kind of record.

4:14 pm: Executive producer Tom Werner showed the pilot to his teenage son and he loved it. So that's the audience for this show.

4:19 pm: I think John Lithgow just said this show was "wonderfully written." Now there's a statement that demands a follow-up joke about crack.

4:29 pm: An NBC publicist interrupts the session with eight of the most beautiful words I have ever heard: "That's all the time we have for today."


Wow that's harsh...but TV Guide has been wrong before...they originally deemed MNIE a failure last year because of its time slot and its lead out but look where it went...

[Seth]

Well, from everything I've seen of the show...eh, just looks okay. Not great, not horrible. Moving the two sitcoms away from Earl/Office though definitely helps in THAT decision. I certainly know what I'll be watching at 8:30 each week for sure now.

[Pavan]

Wow that's harsh...but TV Guide has been wrong before...they originally deemed MNIE a failure last year because of its time slot and its lead out but look where it went...

True but they never questioned the quality of the show--which of course is great. I think NBC might be 3rd place next fall from 8-9pm Thursday. Maybe 4th if Garrett's sitcom hits, but I don't think so.

[Raisingdad2004]

http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/08/09/trouble-on-the-set-of-brothers-and-sisters/

Problems on the set of Brothers and Sisters, showrunner down - can anybody say Commander in Chief?

[Brent88]

http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/08/09/trouble-on-the-set-of-brothers-and-sisters/

Problems on the set of Brothers and Sisters, showrunner down - can anybody say Commander in Chief?

Yep! The show is DOA. I don't think it's going to well after DH at all either(think Invasion after Lost)... they don't even seem to be compatitable. I'm only going to try it because it's after DH and I don't really have anything else to watch, but I don't think I'm going to stick around.

I think moving Ugly Betty is a great move... it was never going to breakout on Fridays, and I think a lot of people who watch Grey's will like it too, but now I think Fridays is very weak. Men in Trees will die quickly(has anyone seen any promos for it? I haven't) with AFV(a family show) as a lead-in.

[Raisingdad2004]

Reviews are not favourable, too darn depressing they say. Calista Flockhart as a conservative radio pundit - I was pleasantly suprised by Tom Skerrit - until I found he was killed off, the show sounded like heaven to me but then I read the synopsis of people dying and all their problems and frankly I couldn't give a cr*p :)

[Pavan]

How can there be reviews of Brothers and Sisters? ABC has not sent any screeners yet for the show. What people are talking about is the pilot that was shot earlier in the year, which is WAY different than the current pilot. I hope to get the pilot from ABC very soon.

[Raisingdad2004]

hmm, well maybe it is less dark/depressing but with a showrunner gone it doesn't look good.

The dark and depressing tone of the show hardly matches it with Desperate Housewives.

[Pavan]

http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/08/09/trouble-on-the-set-of-brothers-and-sisters/

Problems on the set of Brothers and Sisters, showrunner down - can anybody say Commander in Chief?

Difference is it is not during the season. Plus the executive producer wasn't the creator of the show like Rod Lurie was.

[Raisingdad2004]

Difference is it is not during the season. Plus the executive producer wasn't the creator of the show like Rod Lurie was.
But still, with episodes scheduled and episodes to be made, its got to have some effect. Just because nothing has aired yet doesn't mean they don't have to have [x] episodes shot before [y] and that this will cause some delay. Maybe they won't be able to air the show without reruns until Christmas because of a backlog?

Switching showrunner, an integral part of the show, can never be easy.

[Brent88]

The fact that they had to make drastic changes to the pilot isn't good either... and 6 weeks before the season starts, it's still not avaliable for screening? No buzz + against an established hit + Football= Quick death. Plus no one's watching ABC this summer to see the promos anyway. :p

[Pavan]

Until the pilot is screened, I can't really judge these changes. All hoopla trying to get a show canceled before it even airs. With the star cast it has, that alone, plus Desperate Housewives as its lead-in, the show could still do decent numbers. Ally fans will be watching I'm sure.
I don't think the quality of the episodes for Chief was the problem. Sure, Bocho made it more political, but I still saw the family fare in it. I think the big gap of repeats was the problem. I think it is better to have problems now then during the actual season when you can't replace it quick. If ABC is having production problems with the show, they can move another show, say Men in Trees, in its spot. But during the season that would be disastrous.

As for the promos, they have other ways to promote the show. Print, billboards, other Disney related channels (ESPN (though that wouldn't fit), ABC Family, SoapNet, and even Lifetime). Plus ABC Daytime has seen tons of promos for this show, Ugly Betty, Men in Trees and Six Degrees...as all are sort of soapy. ABC really started the creative promotions with the Lost bottles and DH laundry bags.

I just hope Secrets of a Small Town does get picked up for midseason. The pilot was awesome. I would air it Mondays at 9, with a preview episode after DH to get it started.

[Brent88]

I just hope Secrets of a Small Town does get picked up for midseason. The pilot was awesome. I would air it Mondays at 9, with a preview episode after DH to get it started.

I really hope so too...

[troopoleon8897]

I just hope Secrets of a Small Town does get picked up for midseason. The pilot was awesome. I would air it Mondays at 9, with a preview episode after DH to get it started.

I think if B&S gets decent ratings move that to befor WAB? as they are both more drama ish shows and put SoaST after DH as they are both more soapish... plus only one airing after DH wouldn't help it as much as half a season after DH would for B&S seeing as mondays at 9:00 midseason is where all the comp is (24, Heroes, & TaaHM)

[Pavan]

***SERIES PREMIERE DATE CHANGE***



NEW PREMIERE DATE ANNOUNCED FOR FUN AND SEXY ENSEMBLE

DRAMA ON ABC, “MEN IN TREES”



Series to Get Special Preview Tuesday, September 12

Before Settling in on Friday Night





“MEN IN TREES,” the new fun and sexy ensemble drama series about a famous thirtysomething self-help/dating guru whose quest for love and happiness takes her to a small town in Alaska, will get a special preview of the pilot episode, airing TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET), following the season premiere of “Dancing with the Stars,” on the ABC Television Network. The series will premiere in its regular time slot, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 15 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET), following a replay of the pilot episode (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET).



“MEN IN TREES” had originally been scheduled to premiere on Friday, Sept. 22.




“A good man in today’s world isn’t as difficult as some women think. You just have to watch out for the signs. You wouldn’t drive with a blindfold on, but for some reason, women continue to date with one.” So native New Yorker Marin advises a crowd of her devoted fans. Marin thinks she has found her good man, her fiancé Graham, when she discovers, bound for a speaking engagement in Elmo, Alaska, that he has been cheating on her. Plans for the wedding come to a screeching halt. Coming to the conclusion that she doesn’t know anything about men, Marin resolves to stay temporarily in Elmo, where the ratio of women to men is ten to one, and get started on her new book – about men.



“MEN IN TREES” stars Anne Heche as Marin Frist, Abraham Benrubi as Ben, Emily Bergl as Annie, Seana Kofoed as Jane, Suleka Mathew as Sara, Derek Richardson as Patrick, Sarah Strange as Theresa, James Tupper as Jack and John Amos as Buzz.



“MEN IN TREES” was created by Jenny Bicks (“Sex and the City”). Bicks, James Mangold (“Walk the Line”) and Cathy Konrad are executive producers. The series is filmed in Vancouver, Canada and is from Tree Line Films, Perkins Street Productions and NS Pictures, Inc. in association with Warner Bros. Television.

[Pavan]

There will be a one minute promo debuting during Grey's Anatomy this Thursday at 9pm for MEN IN TREES. Look for it early on in the first half hour or so.

[Mr. Monitor]

Not a big ABC fan but I'll check out Day Break.

[Brent88]

There will be a one minute promo debuting during Grey's Anatomy this Thursday at 9pm for MEN IN TREES. Look for it early on in the first half hour or so.

ABC has the best promos... the DH one with all the women doing things related to their character is just so unbelievably awesome and the one I saw Friday Night with Betty/Grey's/Six Degrees was great too.

[Buffyboy323]

Is LOST @ 8 or 9? I heard they were bringing it back to their original timeslot.

[Pavan]

Yeah, that DH one was awesome. I also liked the ABC "LOL" commercial that aired tonight featuring Betty, Knights of Prosperity and Help Me Help You (see that again tomorrow during the 8:30 George Lopez)! I saw the Thursday one you mentioned Brent, liked it too. Also, saw a music video type promo for GA.

Lost is Wednesdays at 9 starting October 4.

[Pavan]

ABC has added two fall preview specials for primetime now for air 9-10pm on Wednesday, September 13. First half hour showcases the dramas and the second half hour showcases the sitcoms and reality series:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/08/house-of-payne-coming-to-tbs-and.html

[Pavan]

More ABC slot news:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/08/i-network-adds-growing-pains-monkees.html

[Brent88]

More ABC slot news:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/08/i-network-adds-growing-pains-monkees.html

What exactly is the point of repeating Grey's? Now I can just watch on Friday and watch DOND on Thursday. It makes no sense(I could see the premiere but not beyond that). People are going to get tired of it.

[Pavan]

It looks to be the first 2-3 weeks only, TBD is listed after that.

[Pavan]

Details on the ABC Sneak Peek specials on Sept. 13:

ABC UNVEILS HIGHLIGHTS OF THE FALL 2006 SEASON DRAMAS, COMEDIES AND REALITY SERIES ON “ABC SNEAK PEEK: THE DRAMAS” AND “ABC SNEAK PEEK: COMEDY AND REALITY,” AIRING BACK TO BACK, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13 ON ABC

Tom Bergeron of ABC’s “Dancing with the Stars” and “America’s Funniest Home Videos” to Host

The ABC Television Network presents a sneak peek at the new Fall season - - complete with exclusive on-set visits and cast interviews -- in two half-hour specials. “ABC Sneak Peek: The Dramas” is set to air WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13 (9:00-9:30 p.m., ET), followed immediately by “ABC Sneak Peek: Comedy and Reality” (9:30-10:00 p.m.) on the ABC Television Network.

Exclusive footage from “ABC Sneak Peek: The Dramas” will get the adrenaline racing with scenes from the Emmy Award-winning phenomenon “Lost” and returning hit “Grey’s Anatomy,” as well as the new thriller, “The Nine.” Calista Flockhart stars in “Brothers and Sisters” as a political pundit whose tight-knit family suddenly unravels at a birthday celebration. New this season is “MEN IN TREES,” starring Anne Heche as a best-selling relationship coach whose life takes a 180 degree turn when her fiancé’s cheating prompts her to take refuge in the wilds of Alaska. An intriguing tale of intertwined destinies unfolds in the new J.J. Abrams series, “Six Degrees,” and chaos and brilliance continue to mix in the Emmy Award-winning “Boston Legal.” Returning as well for a second season is “What About Brian,” which takes a semi-serious look at a group of friends in various stages of romantic relationships.

A turn toward the real, the funny and the real funny follows with “ABC Sneak Peek: Comedy and Reality.” Premiering this season is “Ugly Betty,” based on a groundbreaking Colombian telenovela that became an international phenomenon. America Ferrera is Betty Suarez, the oversized peg in the round hole at Mode magazine, the bible of the fashion magazine, where she struggles as secretary to a publishing mogul’s son. Hit primetime black comedy “Desperate Housewives” returns to further reveal the lives of housewives in suburbia, which aren’t always as they appear. Also returning is the Emmy-winning “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition,” which this season travels across America, starting from the North Pole, to help families in areas the series has never ventured to before.

New this season is “The Knights of Prosperity,” about a group of average Joes who form a “crew” whose intention is to finance their dreams by robbing Mick Jagger’s Central Park apartment. Also new is “Help Me Help You,” starring Ted Danson in a comedy about a collection of eccentrics brought together in group therapy by a therapist with even more problems than those he hopes to help. Returning is “The Bachelor,” the ever popular romance reality series which will be set in one of the world’s romantic capitals, Rome, and will challenge a bachelor in search of the perfect woman. Returning as well is “Wife Swap,” based on the smash hit in the U.K., a reality series in which two women swap families for two weeks to see life from each other’s point of view.

The sensation “Dancing with the Stars” is back to pair celebrities with world-class professional ballroom dancers for live competitions before a national television audience. Also returning is the American television institution “America’s Funniest Home Videos,” entering a seventeenth season of wildly funny video clips sent in by video buffs and judged by a studio audience.

The “ABC Sneak Peek” specials will be broadcast with Spanish subtitles via secondary closed captioning. A TV parental guideline will be posted closer to airdate.

[puertaazul]

saw that this was coming up also!!
i can't wait to see what they reveal about six degrees!! i am so excited to see what abrams has up his sleeve with this show!!

[Pavan]

I loved Six Degrees' pilot. It might start a bit slow, but it really really picks up in the middle. It makes you think and wonder. J.J. always has brilliant shows.

[Pavan]

As you all know Ugly Betty premieres Thursday, September 28 at 8 p.m. on ABC. Cable net ABC Family has scheduled a "one-time-only" broadcast of the series premiere now the next day at 7 p.m.

ABC Family
Friday, September 29:
7:00pm Ugly Betty

[Wings#1ShowPeriod]

I hope ABC will be patient with their 2 sitcoms for the Fall Season, and not expect The Knights of Prosperity or Help Me Help You to retain 80 percent of DWTS audience, its a reality show and unlikely its going to happen. I see both show performing well.. but it might not be good enough for ABC.

[puertaazul]

I actually think that Kinghts might do better than people expect it to. The premise is hysterical and all the characters are just as funny as the other. I think this show may take people by surprise in how much they like it. I really DO hope they give it a chance bc it could be great!

[Pavan]

Few changes at ABC next week:

Monday, Sept. 25
9:00PM Wife Swap (replaces Lost S2 Finale)
10:00PM Men in Trees ENCORE (replaces Lost S2 Finale cont.)

Wednesday, September 27
10:00PM 20/20 with Barbara Walters: Steve Irwin Special (replaces Men in Trees ENCORE)


In order to heighten awareness, the first episode of “Ugly Betty” will air as a one time only telecast on both ABC Family and SOAPnet. Both telecasts will air after the season premiere on ABC scheduled on Thursday, September 28th in the 8:00 -9:00 PM ET/PT time period.
“Ugly Betty” is scheduled to air on ABC Family on Friday, September 29th in the 7:00 - 8:00 PM ET/PT time period and on SOAPnet on Saturday, September 30th in both the 12:00 - 1:00 AM ET/PT and 12:00 - 1:00 PM ET/PT time periods.

[Brent88]

WOW. I just have to say it... Six Degrees was AWESOME! Thursdays 9-11 is officially my favorite 2 back-to-back hours of the week. I was so wrong about this show. I am so hooked. I think it was actually better than Grey's Anatomy! :eek:

[Pavan]

I told you Brent. I loved that pilot so much when I saw it in June.

[Stuck In The '70's]

I taped Six Degrees and I'll watch it this weekend. I watched Shark and so far that's my favorite new show of the year so far.

[Brent88]

HOLY CRAP! :eek:

Up on Drudge!!!!

RATINGS UPSET: ABC's 'Grey's Anatomy' season opener out-rates CBS 'CSI'... 17.1 rating/25 share to 14.9 rating/22 share... ABC WINS THURSDAY NIGHT, CBS SHOW, NBC IN DISTANT THIRD

WOW.

tvguide.com:

This where the ratings get fun, folks. Cutting to the chase for a moment, Grey's Anatomy's new time slot (and those multiple video-playing ads, I have to assume) paid off big time, as the ABC drama bested 9 o'clock hour stalwart CSI in their premieres' head-to-head clash. The overnight tally: Grey's 25.15 million total viewers, CSI 22 mil. Grey's also has can claim bragging rights to the droolworthy 18-49 demo, where it snagged 50 percent more than CBS' crime drama.

Rewinding to 8 pm, Survivor: Cook Islands led the pack with 17.7 million, followed by a Grey's clip-show (13.4 mil) and NBC's My Name Is Earl/The Office combo (each with about 9 mil). Leapfrogging to 10 pm, we had a bit of a horse race, as ER's kazillionth-season premiere, with an audience of 15.5 million, edged out newbies Shark (debuting with 14.9 mil) and Six Degrees (with 13.3 mil).

[Pavan]

OH MY!! ABC just sent something out. Over 25 million for GA and just under 22 for CSI. This should hold up when FN's are released!

[Scoobiedoo30]

That is awsome news that Grey's Anatomy got out over 25 Million.

[Pavan]

"Survivor: Cook Islands" put CBS on top at 8 p.m. with a 9.8/16. A "Grey's Anatomy" clip show on ABC was a strong second at 9.2/15. NBC was third with season premieres of "My Name Is Earl," 5.8/10, and "The Office," 5.7/9 (which actually built on its lead-in a little in total viewers and 18-49). "'Til Death," 3.9/6, and "Happy Hour," 3.0/5, were fourth for FOX. The CW went with a "Smallville" rerun.

At 9 p.m., the "Grey's Anatomy" season premiere, 15.7/23, scored a rather shocking win over CBS' "CSI," 13.5/20, which has dominated the timeslot for several years. "Deal or No Deal" was a distant third for NBC at 6.5/10. "Celebrity Duets" slumped to a 2.4/4 for FOX. A "Supernatural" rerun on The CW trailed.

Another medical drama, NBC's "ER," won the 10 p.m. hour with a 10.0/16. The premiere of "Shark" on CBS averaged 9.8/16. ABC's "Six Degrees" lost a big chunk of its lead-in to finish at 8.6/14.

[Brent88]

Now for somewhat bad news...

From Mediaweek:

“Degrees” lost 47 percent of its considerable lead-in, averaging a 5.8 in adults 18-49. More alarming, the show dipped steeply at 10:30 p.m., falling from a 6.6 to a 4.9.

[Pavan]

Yeah, both Shark and Six Degrees had a big fall, but I think we can't say anything about them until next week. All I will predict is ABC has a great chance of winning 8-10pm each week, so if they can get 13 million at 10pm, they will be happy probably. Ugly Betty will beat Survivor. 10pm was still close for all three, only a 3 million difference or so from 1st to 3rd place. So, I wouldn't call a timeslot winner in there yet.

Still shocked GA beat CSI in viewers. I knew GA would kill it in 18-49, but even viewers?? This is more than what ABC expected and certainly more than I thought.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I also Preditch that ABC Has a chance to win The 8:00 pm until 10:00 pm each week.

[Brent88]

Yeah, both Shark and Six Degrees had a big fall, but I think we can't say anything about them until next week. All I will predict is ABC has a great chance of winning 8-10pm each week, so if they can get 13 million at 10pm, they will be happy probably. Ugly Betty will beat Survivor. 10pm was still close for all three, only a 3 million difference or so from 1st to 3rd place. So, I wouldn't call a timeslot winner in there yet.

Still shocked GA beat CSI in viewers. I knew GA would kill it in 18-49, but even viewers?? This is more than what ABC expected and certainly more than I thought.

I don't think Betty will beat Survivor, BUT I do expect it to be a strong 2nd and after what happened last night, it would not surprise me(a Grey's recap got over a 9 rating?!).

Yes... CBS needs to be very worried about Shark as well. I'm surprised it was that low and even more surprised that the 7,641th season premiere of ER won the hour! I think maybe Grey's Anatomy helped it...

[Brent88]

Quick Take for Thursday, September 21, 2006 (Fast Affiliate Ratings)

Leading the Night by a Wide Margin in Adults 18-49, ABC Delivers its Strongest Season Opening Thursday in at Least 15 Years

In its Third Season Premiere, ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" Emerges as Thursday's No. 1 TV Show, Outpacing CBS' "CSI" by 3 Million Viewers and 45% in Adults 18-49

"Grey's Anatomy" Soars by 6.1 Million Viewers and 31% in Adults 18-49 from its Year-Ago Opener, with ABC's Best Numbers in the Time Period Since May 2000

Beating Out CBS' Debut of "Shark" by 38% in Adults 18-49, the Series Debut of ABC's "Six Degrees" Logs the Net's Top Number in the Time Slot in 3-1/2 Years

"Six Degrees" Qualifies as ABC's Strongest Thursday Night Scripted Series Debut Since 1994 in Total Viewers and Since 1991 in Adults 18-49

Thursday Night (8:00-11:00 p.m.)
ABC won the first Thursday of the 2006-07 TV Season by 20% in Adults 18-49 over second-place CBS (7.2/19 vs. 6.0/16). It was the Net's first victory in the key young adult sales demographic on a season opening Thursday since at least 1991 - the start of Nielsen's electronic database.

* ABC was up by 9.1 million viewers and by 227% in Adults 18-49 from the same night a year ago (8.2 million & 2.2/6 on 9/22/05). In fact ABC delivered its strongest opening Thursday numbers in at least 15 years - since at least 1991.

* In Total Viewers and Adults 18-49, ABC marked its best performance on any Thursday night with entertainment programming since May 4, 2000.

"Grey's Anatomy: Complications of the Heart" (8:00-9:00 p.m.) Carrying momentum over from the strong numbers put up by the "Grey's" season finale repeat the previous evening (Wednesday, 9/20/06 from 9:00-11:00 p.m.), the "Grey's Anatomy: Complications of the Heart" clip show put ABC into a solid second-place during the opening hour on Thursday in Total Viewers (13.5 million) and Adults 18-49 (4.8/13). The "Grey's" clip show ranked No. 1 in the hour among Women 18-34, beating CBS' "Survivor" by 19% (6.3/18 vs. 5.3/15).

* Warming up the time period for ABC, as the Network prepares for the debut of "Ugly Betty" in the hour in a week (on 9/28/06), the special generated ABC's best viewer and young adult numbers in that hour in 6 months - since 3/16/06.

"Grey's Anatomy" (9:00-10:00 p.m.) Thursday's No. 1 TV program, ABC's season premiere of "Grey's Anatomy" dominated its new time period, beating CBS' "C.S.I." by 3.1 million viewers (25.1 million vs. 22.0 million) and by 45% in Adults 18-49 (10.9/26 vs. 7.5/18). "Grey's" advantage over "C.S.I." in Adults 18-34 stood at an enormous 91% (10.5/28 vs. 5.5/15). "Grey's Anatomy" became the first non-finale of any series to beat an original "C.S.I." in 2-1/2 years among Adults 18-49 - since 4/1/04. Furthermore, it's the first scripted non-finale series ever to draw a larger audience than "C.S.I." in original Thursday head-to-head competition.

* In its third premiere, "Grey's Anatomy" offered ABC its best numbers in the time period with series programming since May 2000 - since 5/25/00 in Total Viewers and 5/4/00 in Adults 18-49.

* Versus its season premiere last year which came out of "Desperate Housewives," "Grey's" was up by 6.1 million viewers and 31% in Adults 18-49 (19.0 million & 8.3/20 on 9/25/05). It was the third-highest-rated telecast ever for the series, behind only Parts 1 & 2 of its post-Super Bowl episode.

"Six Degrees" (10:00-11:00 p.m.) Up against CBS' well promoted series debut of "Shark" and NBC's season opener for time period veteran "ER," the series debut of "Six Degrees" delivered ABC's best non-sports performance in the hour in 3-1/2 years in both Total Viewers (13.3 million) and Adults 18-49 (5.8/15) - since 2/6/03. ABC's debut telecast of "Six Degrees" beat CBS' debut of "Shark" by a strong 38% in Adults 18-49 (5.8/15 vs. 4.2/11).

* Versus the same night last year, ABC's numbers catapulted in the hour by 5.7 million viewers and by 123% in Adults 18-49 (7.6 million viewers and 2.6/7 in AD18-49).

* "Six Degrees" represents ABC's strongest Thursday night scripted series debut in Total Viewers since 1994 and top-rated among Adults 18-49 since 1991.

* The retention of "Six Degrees" coming out of "Grey's" in Total Viewers and Adults 18-49 (53% in Total Viewers/53% in Adults 18-49) was nearly identical to the retention that CBS saw in the same time period with the series debut of "Without a Trace" (53% in Total Viewers/50% in Adults 18-49 on 9/26/02). "Without a Trace" went on to become a key program for CBS, now entering it fifth season and currently being used by CBS to build up Sunday night.

Source: Nielsen Media Research (Fast Affiliate atings, Live+SD), 9/21/06

[WilCap]

I hope Six Degree's ratings increase. It is a great show.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I know that Six Degrree's will do well in the ratings.

[TVJunkie101]

Ugly Betty won't overtake Survivor, IMO, but it will hopefully do really well to at least be second (I predict it'll get at least 13 million).

I wasn't surprised at all Grey's Anatomy (the show just rocks) beat CSI. The question now is ... can they keep it up?

[Pavan]

After what happened with CSI and Survivor now no longer what it was (no double digit ratings even), I can see Ugly Betty beating it. That show is probably only one of the few that will hit this fall, and it could be the first to break out. So far no new show has. Ugly Betty, The Nine and Heroes probably have the best chance to, if they don't, then what a bust for the fall.

[Brent88]

Ugly Betty won't overtake Survivor, IMO, but it will hopefully do really well to at least be second (I predict it'll get at least 13 million).

You know, a few days ago I would have agreed with you. However I am still in SHOCK that a Grey's RECAP was less than a ratings point behind Survivor! That is amazing. The cast was on Oprah this week and the hype around the show is unreal. I think that it may very well beat Survivor. I'm actually considering watching it live and taping Survivor, something I've NEVER done in the 4 1/2 years I've watched the show.

[TVJunkie101]

Yeah, but that's Grey's Anatomy. Ugly Betty is a different story, it's got the POTENTIAL, I agree and I want it to do well because I've been looking forward to it for months. I really want to watch UB, but Survivor is my first priority. I'll watch Betty online.

I guess I could see Betty overtake Survivor but it wouldn't be by much. They'd probably be near or equal to the other.

We'll see though.

And I still don't see why people are so stunned by Grey's beating CSI. I knew it would. CSI is an aging series (a good show still but aging). Grey's is fresh and hot. I knew it would beat it. But I didn't expect it by that much. That I was surprised about. But like I said ... we'll see what ratings are like next week.

[Brent88]

The first 8 minutes of Ugly Betty's premiere is up on abc.com

It looks really awesome. :D

[Buffyboy323]

What shows do you watch on ABC, or are going to watch?

I watch:

Sundays
Desperate Huosewives
Brothers and Sisters

Mondays
What About Brian

Wednesdays
LOST

Thursdays
Ugly Betty
Grey's Anatomy

[Brent88]

Desperate Housewives
Wife Swap
What About Brian(Maybe)
Dancing with the Stars
Knights of Propserity
Help Me Help You
Dancing with the Stars Results
The Nine(Maybe)
Ugly Betty
Grey's Anatomy
Six Degrees
Men in Trees

[troopoleon8897]

AFV
Desperate Housewives
Brothers & Sisters

The Knights Of Prosperity
Help Me Help You
Boston Legal

LOST (Day Break)
The Nine

Grey's Anatomy

[Brent88]

Help Me Help You was just OK. Some parts were hilarious and then some parts were boring. I'll check it out again next week though.

[Pavan]

I thought the 3rd episode was funnier, but we'll see (See my review). Knights of Prosperity is still the funniest new sitcom.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I have not watch Help Me Help you yet I am going to watch
Help Me Help You on early Wednesday, September 27, 2006
at 12:35 am

[Raisingdad2004]

Help Me Help You was OK, pretty boring.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I watched last night Help Me Help you this Morning at 12:35 am and I really enjoyed the show.

[Brent88]

ABC held the lead at 9 p.m. with "Dancing," 13.5/20, and the premiere of the comedy "Help Me Help You," which shed quite a bit of its lead-in audience to finish at 8.0/12. CBS stayed in second with "The Unit," 7.7/12. "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" moved NBC into third with a 7.1/11, while FOX's "Standoff" came in fourth with a 5.0/8. The CW went with a repeat of the "Runaway" premiere.

That's about the same numbers Crumbs got for it's premiere after DWTS(and we all know what happened to that). It held onto only 59% of it's lead-in. ohno: Once DWTS is not propping it up, it'll get the usual crappy numbers.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I am looking forwards to next week episode of Help Me Help You

[Brent88]

BL had a huge drop last night. If it wasn't for Smith on CBS being so disappointing, they'd be in even worse shape.

"Law & Order: SVU" dominated the 10 p.m. hour for NBC with a 9.8/16. ABC's "Boston Legal," 6.6/11, edged CBS' "Smith," 6.4/11.

[Scoobiedoo30]

Are you saying BL did not do that well in the 9:00 pm CT Hour.

[Pavan]

Please be advised that on Thursday, September 28, 2006 only, “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Six Degrees” will air further "off the clock" as follows:

“Grey’s Anatomy” 9:00 - 10:02 PM ET/PT
“Six Degrees” 10:02 - 11:00 PM ET/PT

Please be advised that on Sunday, October 1, 2006 only, “Desperate Housewives” and “Brothers & Sisters” will air further "off the clock" as follows:

“Desperate Housewives” 9:00 - 10:02 PM ET/PT
“Brothers & Sisters” 10:02 - 11:00 PM ET/PT

[Scoobiedoo30]

Thanks for telling us this.

[Brent88]

Please be advised that on Thursday, September 28, 2006 only, “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Six Degrees” will air further "off the clock" as follows:

“Grey’s Anatomy” 9:00 - 10:02 PM ET/PT
“Six Degrees” 10:02 - 11:00 PM ET/PT

Please be advised that on Sunday, October 1, 2006 only, “Desperate Housewives” and “Brothers & Sisters” will air further "off the clock" as follows:

“Desperate Housewives” 9:00 - 10:02 PM ET/PT
“Brothers & Sisters” 10:02 - 11:00 PM ET/PT

I'm not surprised by this. I suspect it will continue(especially in the case of Thursdays) for awhile longer.

[Stuck In The '70's]

It never makes me watch the show that follows it. As in the case of DH , I tape it and WAT anyway during football season so I would never notice.

[Brent88]

It never makes me watch the show that follows it. As in the case of DH , I tape it and WAT anyway during football season so I would never notice.

Yeah... and you can see from the ratings you aren't the only one. :lol: I've noticed the other networks have started doing this as well... in fact, ER starts at 9:59pm!!!

[Scoobiedoo30]

ER has been airing ER at 8:59 pm Central Time since last Season.

[Brent88]

Betty is a breakout hit!!!

The premiere of the critically hailed "Ugly Betty" scored a 10.7/17 for ABC at 8 p.m. "Survivor: Cook Islands," 9.6/15, was second in households for CBS but won the hour in viewers and adults 18-49. "My Name Is Earl," 5.2/8, and "The Office," 4.8/7, were a distant third for NBC. FOX came in fourth with two episodes of "'Til Death." The sixth-season premiere of "Smallville" delivered a 2.9/5 for The CW.

[Pavan]

Hopefully Betty can pull these numbers next week, too. If so, our first real hit of the season. The Nine will be the next hit. Heroes did well in A18-49, but let's see if it can next week. Jericho is doing good for CBS Wed at 8pm. Shark is OK. Brothers & Sisters is too early to call. Everything else so far has not been impressive. Studio 60 is down from what Medium did last year.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I know Betty will win it's Thursday 7:00 pm CT Time slot next Thursday.

[Brent88]

While 8-10pm is strong, Six Degrees is DEAD.

-Six Degrees (ABC)
Overnights: 8.7/13 to 6.4/11 (-26)
Total Viewers: 12.61 to 9.00 million (-3.61 million)
Adults 18-49: 5.1/13 to 3.6/10 (-29)

ohno:

and I liked the show too... but those numbers are HORRIBLE.

[Pavan]

I like Six Degress, too, but that is bad at 10:30. I think it will last until December at least. And maybe ABC will launch a new drama this January or possibly move Men in Trees there. Still, Six Degrees is an improvement over Primetime Live on most nights.

ABC has really done well at 8 p.m. this fall. They did very well last year and again this year at 9 p.m., but 8 p.m. is strong this fall. 10 p.m. needs a bit more work but Boston Legal and Six Degrees are decent enough for now. The Nine should be big. The only 8 p.m. show that did well last fall was on a Sunday (EM: HE). And 10 p.m. of course was GA on Sunday.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I am asking This uestion for my brother I was wondering The Friday Night airing of Grey's Anatomy is this Temporary.

[Pavan]

It is at least until the Friday, Oct. 20 airing. Not sure what will happen starting Oct. 27.

[Scoobiedoo30]

Thanks for The Answer my friend.

[Brent88]

Quick Take for Thursday, September 28, 2006 (Based on Fast Affiliate Ratings)

ABC Wins its Second Straight Thursday in Adults 18-49, Beating CBS

ABC's "Ugly Betty" Opens as the Most-Watched New TV Show of the Season, Generating ABC's Best Scripted Numbers in the Time Slot in Well Over 11 Years

"Grey's Anatomy" Beats CBS' "C.S.I." Again, Ranking as Thursday's No. 1 TV Program Across the Adult Demos; ABC's Top Scripted Series Time Period in Over 15 Years

ABC's "Six Degrees" Tops CBS' "Shark" in the 10 O'clock Hour in Young Adults and Women, Improving the Slot by 5.1 Million Viewers and by 133% in Adults 18-49

Thursday Night (8:00-11:00 p.m.)
For the second straight week, ABC qualified as the #1 network on Thursday night among Adults 18-49, beating out CBS (6.2/16 vs. 6.0/16). ABC was also the No. 1 network on the evening with Adults 18-34 (5.7/17) and in all key women demographics: W18-34 (8.1/22), /W18-49 (8.7/21) & W25-54 (9.8/21).

* ABC's new Thursday lineup is already delivering impressive returns, as the Network is up by 9.5 million viewers (17.1 million vs. 7.6 million) and by 205% in Adults 18-49 (6.7/18 vs. 2.2/6) over the first two Thursdays of last season.

"Ugly Betty" (8:00-9:00 p.m.)
From 8:00-9:00 p.m. ABC's debut telecast of "Ugly Betty" opened as the most-watched new show of the season (any network), with 16.1 million viewers and a 4.9 rating, 14 share in Adults 18-49, taking a very strong second to CBS' time period veteran "Survivor" on both counts. From start to finish, "Ugly Betty" saw its audience soar by 3.2 million viewers (14.5 million to 17.7 million) and by 33% in Adults 18-49 (4.2/12 to 5.6/15)...edging out "Survivor" at 8:30pm in viewers (17.7 million vs. 17.5 million) and Adults 18-34 (4.6/13 vs. 4.5/13). Incidentally, against "Betty" "Survivor" was down from last week in both viewers and young adults. "Ugly Betty" won its time period, beating "Survivor," across the women demographics: W18-34 (5.9/17 vs. 4.9/14), W18-49 (7.0/18 vs. 6.7/17) & W25-54 (8.3/19 vs. 8.1/19).

* The debut of "Ugly Betty" attracted ABC's largest audience with a scripted program in the time period in nearly 11-1/2 years - since 4/27/95, with an episode of "Matlock." No other regular scripted program has delivered a higher Adult 18-49 rating for ABC in the Thursday 8 o'clock hour in more than 12 years - since 8/25/94, with the series debut of "My So-Called Life."

"Grey's Anatomy" (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
For the second straight week, ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" beat CBS' "C.S.I." to rank No. 1 in the time period across the key adult demographics: AD18-34 (8.7/23), AD18-49 (9.4/22) & AD25-54 (10.3/22). In the key Adult 18-49 sales demographic, "Grey's" beat "C.S.I." by 19% (9.4/22 vs. 7.9/19).

* For the second week in a row, ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" stood as Thursday night's No. 1 TV program in all key adult and women demographics.

* In Total Viewers and Adults 18-49, "Grey's" is producing ABC's strongest scripted series numbers in the time period in at least 15 years - since at least September of 1991, the start of the Nielsen electronic database.

"Six Degrees" (10:00-11:00 p.m.)
During the 10 o'clock hour, ABC's "Six Degrees" outpaced its CBS' drama competition ("Shark") among young adults (AD18-34/AD18-49) and across the key women demographics. In Adults 18-34, "Six Degrees" beat out "Shark" by 57% (4.4/13 vs. 2.8/8).

* On average in its first two telecasts, "Six Degrees" has improved ABC's performance in the hour by 5.1 million viewers (11.7 million vs. 6.6 million) and by 133% in Adults 18-49 (4.9/13 vs. 2.1/6) over the same nights last season.

Source: Nielsen Media Research (Fast Affiliate Ratings, Live+SD), 9/28/06

[Stuck In The '70's]

I did watch Ugly Betty and I must say that is one of my favorite new shows along with Shark and Jericho.

[Brent88]

I just watched Ugly Betty and really liked it. America Ferrara is great. I will defintely be recording this in the weeks to come. :D

[puertaazul]

I can't believe I missed Ugly Betty!! I am going online to ABC.com to watch the show now! I am so excited that it did so well!! The Thursday night line-up is fantastic!! You can't really go wrong with 3 such strong shows!!

[Pavan]

Yes, that Thursday lineup is excellent in quality. Ratings are good too. Six Degrees needs to get better in the ratings, though. I think it might very very soon. ABC is planning a cross-over with Grey's Anatomy I hear. Probably in the coming weeks.

[Scoobiedoo30]

that Cross Over should be Awsome will it be during The November Ratings Sweeps Period

[Brent88]

Yes, that Thursday lineup is excellent in quality. Ratings are good too. Six Degrees needs to get better in the ratings, though. I think it might very very soon. ABC is planning a cross-over with Grey's Anatomy I hear. Probably in the coming weeks.

Yeah... I heard something about that elsewhere. Sounds awesome and should(hopefully) help. :D

[Pavan]

I have a little update regarding ABC. Exclusive to us. Will be posted on the blog at 12 midnight.

[Brent88]

I have a little update regarding ABC. Exclusive to us. Will be posted on the blog at 12 midnight.

WOOHOO!

party:

[Scoobiedoo30]

WooHoo I will be Checking The Blog at 11:00 pm.

[Pavan]

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/10/abc-postpones-knights-of-prosperity.html

Read that, and then read my comments here:

I think ABC will be launching a sitcom block or something in January I guess on Tuesdays. Or Knights could start in November after the finale of DwtS? Not sure...hopefully we know more later today.

[Scoobiedoo30]

Well I checking The Blog Later on

[Brent88]

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2006/10/abc-postpones-knights-of-prosperity.html

Read that, and then read my comments here:

I think ABC will be launching a sitcom block or something in January I guess on Tuesdays. Or Knights could start in November after the finale of DwtS? Not sure...hopefully we know more later today.

ABC confuses me sometimes. :lol:

[puertaazul]

That crossover sounds like it's going to be a great idea...I am not sure how it would work, but it would be so cool to see how two of my favorite shows are mixed up together!!

I am curious about the sitcom line-up?...I hadn't heard that Knights of Prosperity was going to be coming out in November? I am excited for it to start!!

[Brent88]

Help Me Help You is dead... lost 50% of the lead-in.

ABC Tuesday will be a major disaster when DWTS is not on.

ABC held the lead at 9 p.m. with the conclusion of "Dancing," 13.2/20, and "Help Me Help You," 7.0/11. NBC's "Law & Order: Criminal Intent" scored an 8.2/13 to tie for second with "The Unit" on CBS (the latter did better in total viewers). Baseball on FOX scored a 5.7/9, while the season premiere of "Veronica Mars" on The CW delivered a 2.1/3.

[Brent88]

Well The Nine wasn't that great. It had a lot of boring moments, especially in the middle of the show. Others were OK, but the ending was intriguing. I'll check it out next week but not sure this will become must-see TV.

7/10

[Brent88]

Mediaweek:

The good news for ABC was a midweek victory, with a first-place finish in the overnights (and most likely total viewers and adults 18-49 when the fast national results are released). But the third season-premiere of the still dominant Lost came down considerably from it’s year-ago opener. Lost averaged a first-place 12.3/18 in the overnights, which comparatively was down by 18 percent from its year two debut (Overnights: 15.0/21 on Sept. 21, 2005). Yes, folks, this could be concerning, particularly given that ABC is foolishly putting new Taye Diggs drama Day Break into the Lost time period for three months beginning in mid-November.

Lost led into the debut of drama The Nine, which is likely to share dominance with CBS’ CSI: NY in the 10 p.m. hour once the fast nationals are released. As it stands, The Nine debuted with a second-place 9.1/15 in the overnights (but is expected to dominate among adults 18-49 courtesy of lead-in Lost). While that was an improvement of 17 percent in the overnights from year-ago occupant Invasion (Overnights: #3, 7.8/12 on Oct. 5, 2005), there are two other things to keep in mind about The Nine.

1) Retention out of Lost was 74 percent in the overnights (with similar results expected among total viewers and adults 18-49). That may not sound great, but comparatively it was an improvement over former occupant Invasion.

2) Erosion in the second half hour was 11 percent in the overnights (9.6/15 to 8.5/14), with similar results expected among total viewers and adults 18-49.

[Brent88]

This is very disappointing.

"CSI: NY," 10.2/17, won the 10 p.m. hour for CBS. The premiere of "The Nine" on ABC lost a significant number of "Lost" viewers to finish at 7.8/13. NBC's "Kidnapped" took another hit, coming at 3.7/6.

It'll probably be below a 7.0 next week. If NBC would get rid of Kidnapped, it'd probably fall to 3rd.

[Pavan]

“BIG DAY” TO PREMIERE TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28

ON THE ABC TELEVISION NETWOK





“Big Day,” a new romantic comedy about life in the wild wedding lane, will premiere TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28 (9:00-9:30 p.m., ET) on ABC, the Network announced today.



“Big Day” follows a very special day in a young couple’s life, their wedding day… but tells the stories you don’t see on the wedding video -- the father who sits his daughter down on the morning of her big day and tells her he really doesn’t think she should marry this guy; the bitter bridesmaid older sister who sleeps with the best man and accidentally drinks his contact lenses, which he left in a glass of water on the nightstand, blinding him for the rest of the proceedings; the groomsman who’s secretly in love with the groom; the tightly wound mother of the bride who intimidates the nervous wedding planner into changing the salad (the bride’s choice, Caesar, is just so tacky!).


This program will utilize a seamless transition into “Help Me Help You.”

“Big Day” stars Marla Sokoloff (ABC’s “The Practice”) as Alice and Josh Cooke as Danny – the blushing bride and groom -- Wendie Malick (“Just Shoot Me”) as Jane, Kurt Fuller (“Anger Management”) as Steve, Miriam Shor as Becca, Stephen Rannazzisi as Skobo and the hilariously nervous Stephnie Weir (FOX’s “Mad TV”) as Lorna.



Josh Goldsmith and Cathy Yuspa are creators and executive producers. Matthew Carlson is executive producer. “Big Day” is a production of Sony Pictures Television

[Scoobiedoo30]

Big Day looks like a great Show for ABC

[Pavan]

The date is certainly interesting. Strange time to premiere...wonder if it is a burn-off? Notes from the Underbelly and Knights of Prosperity pilots were much stronger, in my opinion. Especially Knights! I'm guessing those will be saved for January.

[Brent88]

Big Day sounds horrible to me. Won't be watching. I can't believe they dropped Knights for THAT!

[Pavan]

They didn't drop Knights for that, Brent. I think this is a burn-off for Big Day. It will be airing POST-November sweeps, even in December. Knights will be saved for a better marketing promotion. Which I think is good because October 17 would have been a bad time to premiere.

Big Day was watchable though. Kurt Fuller of DH was good. I also liked the What's Happening!! theme song usage, lol. But the pilot was for sure weak.

[Brent88]

9:00 pm
"Lost" 11.3/17 (7.4)
"Criminal Minds" 9.4/14 (3.8)

9:30 pm
"Lost" 10.8/16 (7.6)
"Criminal Minds" 10.3/15 (4.4)

Ouch. It lost viewers!!!!

[Brent88]

Poor Six Degrees. :( Meanwhile, Ugly Betty appears to be staying for awhile! :D

Mediaweek:

Although one of the success stories this season, of course, is ABC’s improved position on Thursday, the network has actually sprung a leak at 10 p.m. Week two of the alphabet net’s exceptional Ugly Betty opened the evening on another promising note, with an 11.1/17 in the overnights (#1), 14.18 million viewers (#2) and a 4.4/13 among adults 18-49 (#2) at 8 p.m. Comparatively, that was a loss from last week’s inflated opening levels (Overnights: #1, 12.2/19; Viewers: #2, 16.32 million; A18-49: #2, 5.0/14 on Sept. 28) of only 9 percent in the overnights, 2.14 viewers and 12 percent among adults 18-49. In other words, get used to Ugly Betty!

Ugly Betty led into blockbuster Grey’s Anatomy at a dominant 15.8/23 in the overnights, 22.46 million viewers and a 9.2/13 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. Comparably, that was an advantage over CBS’ competing CSI (Overnights: #2, 14.5/21; Viewers: #2, 21.22 million; A18-49: #2, 7.2/18) of 9 percent in the overnights, 1.24 million viewers and 22 percent among adults 18-49. But despite the enormity of its lead-in, recently introduced ABC drama Six Degrees sunk to a mere, and record low, 6.9/11 in the overnights (#3), 9.65 million viewers (#3) and a 3.9/10 among adults 18-49 (#2) at 10 p.m.. A few things to keep in mind about Six Degrees are:

1) Retention out of Grey’s Anatomy of just 44 percent in the overnights, 43 percent in total viewers and 42 percent among adults 18-49.

2) A loss of audience in the second half-hour of 23 percent in the overnights (7.8/12 to 6.0/10), 2.45 million viewers (10.88 to 8.43) and 23 percent among adults 18-49 (4.4/11 to 3.4/ 9).

3) Erosion in just two weeks of 26 percent in the overnights, 2.91 million viewers and 28 percent among adults 18-49.

Three-week track for Six Degrees:
9/21/06 – Overnights: 9.3/15; Viewers: 12.56 million; A18-49: 5.4/14
9/28/06 – Overnights: 7.5/12; Viewers: 10.15 million; A18-49: 4.1/11
10/05/06 – Overnights: 6.9/11; Viewers: 9.65 million; A18-49: 3.9/10

Yes, you can consider Six Degrees one of the biggest bombs of the new season.

[troopoleon8897]

does anyone have the second week #'s (viewers only) for CSI & Grey's... I wanna keep track of who wins and loses every week...

Week 1: Grey's- 25.4 million / CSI- 22.6 million
Week 2:
Week 3: Grey's- 22.4 million / CSI- 21.2 million

[Brent88]

does anyone have the first & second week #'s (viewers only) for CSI & Grey's... I wanna keep track of who wins and loses every week...

Week 1:
Week 2:
Week 3: Grey's- 22.46 million / CSI- 21.22 million

This is what I have(it may not be exact, but it's close).

Week 1: Grey's 25.15 million, CSI 22 Million
Week 2: CSI 23.49 Million, Grey's 23.31 Million(yes CSI beat it in viewers last week).

[Pavan]

I'll post the final numbers shortly.

But Six Degrees needs to be doing a bit better in the ratings. It doesn't have to be 1st place or even 2nd place, but a close 3rd place would suffice. Hopefully the Grey's cross-over gives it a good boost because SD is a very good show. My second favorite newbie so far, behind Ugly Betty. When Knights premieres, that will go on top ;)

[WilCap]

They are doing a Grey's crossover with Six Degrees?

[Brent88]

They are doing a Grey's crossover with Six Degrees?

That's the plan... if the show lasts that long. The numbers last night were REALLY bad though. I'm not totally sure it'll air next week(though it's still on the schedule as of now).

and yeah, ABC can do better considering Grey's is the #1 show. Without a Trace is gone from the timeslot so nothing is getting over a 10 rating(Shark, while doing ok, should be doing better). It's pretty amazing when ER, after 12 years, can still win it's timeslot.

[Pavan]

Brent, they won't remove Six Degrees next week for sure. They're being patient. I think they should be, too, since Primetime Live was doing bad at that slot last season, so it is an improvement, lol.

[Brent88]

Brent, they won't remove Six Degrees next week for sure. They're being patient. I think they should be, too, since Primetime Live was doing bad at that slot last season, so it is an improvement, lol.

:lol:

Do you know what episode the Grey's crossover will happen? I think the show will air for another 3 weeks until Sweeps start(hopefully), but if it continues to lose 55-60% of the lead-in and loses 20-25% throughout the hour, there's no way they can keep it on after that(in the Post-Grey's slot anyway).

I HOPE if they do pull it that maybe they'll try some of their existing shows in the slot(and not Grey's repeats). What about Men in Trees? What About Brian? If The Nine struggles, what about it? I also hope if it's Primetime that maybe they can have more Medical Mysteries specials. I think those would do really well.

[Pavan]

I think I heard "multiple episodes." I don't know when though. I'd guess later this month. It would have Addison and Mark (McSteamy) leaving for NY for a while during the GA hour and then up next on SD they arrive or something. Not official yet.

I always thought that GA/WAB would work well together. Back in May I was pondering GA/WAB for Mondays 9-11pm. I don't think ABC will move WAB to Thursdays at 10. Six Degrees will probably be the only show there until mid-season (BTW, I'm pumped for the WAB premiere...I'll laugh if it beats Studio 60 in the ratings). I think they would try a new show Thurs at 10 first. Men in Trees doesn't have the 10pm feel, I think.
I think The Nine will work out of Lost. They just need to be patient.

Yes, I liked those Medical Mysteries specials, too. The Outsiders was too weird.

[WilCap]

Wonder how they would do the crossover anyway... shows are in diff cities.

[Pavan]

does anyone have the second week #'s (viewers only) for CSI & Grey's... I wanna keep track of who wins and loses every week...

Week 1: Grey's- 25.4 million / CSI- 22.6 million
Week 2:
Week 3: Grey's- 22.4 million / CSI- 21.2 million

OK instead of me posting it, check the blog the last three Sundays :)
I posted final numbers for viewers, HH and 18-49 I think for these two shows in the analysis.


Wonder how they would do the crossover anyway... shows are in diff cities.

Grey's Anatomy is in Seattle. Six Degrees is in NYC. But Addison might be going back to her hometown of NYC with her lover Mark (McSteamy). Derek (McDreamy) and Addison were in NYC before, but Derek left NYC of course because Addison slept with his best friend Mark.

[WilCap]

Oh yeah, you are right, forgot about that. That should be a good episode, looking forward to it. I need to catch up on Six Degree's on ABC.com

[Brent88]

What About Brian returned with decent numbers... a 5.0/8, only .7 behind the failing Studio 60.

[puertaazul]

Oh yeah, you are right, forgot about that. That should be a good episode, looking forward to it. I need to catch up on Six Degree's on ABC.com

So glad to see that someone else, other than me is using the video player to catch up on episodes! I am seriously hooked! I have been listening to the episodes while working sometimes, just so I don't have to wait until I get home to watch them! I think that is a sign of addiction?!

[troopoleon8897]

What About Brian returned with decent numbers... a 5.0/8, only .7 behind the failing Studio 60.

do you know how many viewers they had? I know that A18-49 is the big thing now adays but I care more about total viewers and I can't find any websites that does the nightly ratings in total viewership, so if you could post them or a link where i could find them that would be great...

[Brent88]

do you know how many viewers they had? I know that A18-49 is the big thing now adays but I care more about total viewers and I can't find any websites that does the nightly ratings in total viewership, so if you could post them or a link where i could find them that would be great...

7.0 million according to Mediaweek. A 3.0/8 in Adults 18-49.

88% retention out of The Bachelor.

[Pavan]

Nice numbers for What About Brian. Its highest numbers in that slot yet. I think The Bachelor is a good leadin for it. I hope it sustains it or gets even better. Studio 60 seems to be going down each week, so maybe eventually WAB will beat it, if it sustains.

[Scoobiedoo30]

That is awsome news that What About Briean got ice Numbers

[Pavan]

Couple of notes:

“Extreme Makeover” will air as a series of specials on Fridays, October 20, November 3, November 10 and November 17, 2006 in the 8:00 PM ET/PT time period (“It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” will air as a one time only special on Friday, October 27, 2006 in the 8:00 PM ET/PT time period).

ABC has scheduled a two-hour Grey's Anatomy encore (first two episodes from this season) on Thursday, October 26 from 9 to 11 p.m. Original episodes of Grey's Anatomy and Six Degrees that were scheduled on this date will now be a week later (Nov. 2). Ugly Betty is still all-new on Oct. 26.

[puertaazul]

Do we know why they are already going into repeats this early in the season? Is it just to prepare for November sweeps? They must be getting some good ideas pouring in for that month if that's the case...exciting!!

[Pavan]

Maybe to save episodes or not to air during the last game of the World Series.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I belive they are showing Reruns because of The World Series

[Brent88]

Do we know why they are already going into repeats this early in the season? Is it just to prepare for November sweeps? They must be getting some good ideas pouring in for that month if that's the case...exciting!!

It's actually pretty common due to the World Series. I remember repeats in the last week of October last year as well.

[Brent88]

FWIW... Criminal Minds beat Lost in the Fast Nationals and Overnights, but Lost had more viewers.

The Nine is dead. Dateline beat it!

CBS' "Criminal Minds" had a 10.9/16 in the 9 p.m. hour, beating the 10.2/15 for ABC's "Lost," though the ABC drama averaged more viewers. FOX's baseball was third, outdoing the 5.0/8 for NBC's "Biggest Loser." The CW was last with the 2.2/3 for "One Tree Hill."

"CSI: NY" helped CBS close the night strong with an 11.5/19. NBC's "Dateline" easily outperformed former time slot occupant "Kidnapped" and delivered higher ratings than "The Nine," which slumped to a 5.7/9 in its second week on ABC.

[Scoobiedoo30]

When will the Repeat start

[Pavan]

Lost killed Criminal Minds in 18-49 though and it beat it in total viewers, too...just the household rating went to CM. But nice growth for CM as it is the most returning show showing growth. CSI: NY is also benefiting at 10pm without Law & Order.

The Nine needs to do better. It is too bad because last night was much better than the pilot, I thought. Daybreak looks very very good. A promo aired last night during Lost and I can't wait! I should get my copy of the pilot soon.

ABC 10pm needs work right now on most nights. Their 8 and 9pm shows are very big, though.

[Brent88]

Lost just BARELY won in total viewers. 180,000.

Lost - 16.66 million, 6.7 demo
CM - 16.48 million, 4.4 demo

Of note: The Nine's drop was WORSE than Six Degrees drop for it's 2nd week. Ouch.

More from Mediaweek:

Week two of ABC’s The Nine completely squandered its Lost lead-in, with a distant second-place 7.0/11 in the overnights, 8.41 million viewers and a 3.2/ 9 among adults 18-49. Compared to it’s week-ago debut (Overnights: #2, 9.1/15; Viewers: #2, 11.91 million; A18-49: #2, 4.6/12 on Oct. 4), that was a loss of 23 percent in the overnights, 3.50 million viewers and 30 percent among adults 18-49. The Nine also declined significantly at 10:30 p.m. with a loss of 18 percent in the overnights (7.7/12 to 6.3/10), 1.93 million viewers (9.38 to 7.45 million) and 25 percent among adults 18-49 (3.6/10 to 2.7/ 7).

[troopoleon8897]

I If they commit to airing all the Nines episodes so far (13) then there will be six weeks during Daybreaks run open, I hope then order atleast six more because I have a feeling that if Traveler is started after Daybreak it will fail so I want them to save it till Feb, but if The Nine keeps going down I think we will have two failed post Lost shows...

[Pavan]

Traveler is almost certain to debut after Lost in early Feb.

[robyrob]

I finally watched both episodes of the Nine last night, I'll keep watching but man it was kinda sloooooowwwww....

[troopoleon8897]

Traveler is almost certain to debut after Lost in early Feb.

Good, I mean The Nine is great and all but Traveler looks awesome...

[Stuck In The '70's]

I think ABC is cursed on Wednesdays at 10

[Brent88]

Six Degrees was really awesome tonight. Major plot advancement! I hope the ratings at least level off and don't drop tonight. I didn't see that twist with The Puncher coming at all.

Also, Sara Evans has quit Dancing with the Stars and her last appearance will be Tuesday when she will explain everything.

[Pavan]

“20/20” will air as a one time only special telecast on Friday, November 3, 2006 in the 9:00 - 11:00 PM ET/PT time period.
This two-hour special looks at people with privilege.

[Brent88]

Well... Grey's was down slightly last night, but still beat CSI(what happened to that show? It used to get over 25 million), while Six Degrees didn't drop as much as the previous week, but still not doing well. Survivor beat Ugly Betty but it was a VERY strong second.

At 8 p.m., CBS' "Survivor" delivered a somewhat soft 9.4 rating, but still held off ABC's "Ugly Betty," which had a 9.3/15 (nearly two million viewers more watched the CBS reality show).

ABC grabbed a lead at 9 p.m. with the 14.6/22 for "Grey's Anatomy," topping the 13.3/20 for "CSI," while the viewership margin was roughly 1.25 million.

ABC's "Six Degrees" again lost a sizeable portion of its lead-in, doing a 6.3/10.

[Pavan]

October 16, 2006





“UGLY BETTY” PICKED UP FOR A FULL SEASON





The most-watched new TV show of the 2006-07 season, “Ugly Betty” was picked up for a full season order, Stephen McPherson, president of ABC Entertainment announced today. The show, based on the world’s most popular telenovela, “Yo Soy Betty La Fea,” is executive-produced by Salma Hayek and stars America Ferrera as Betty Suarez.



“In just two weeks ‘Ugly Betty’ has given us an impressive foothold leading into the ‘Grey’s Anatomy’ hour on Thursday night,” said McPherson. “The show has proven to be competitive in a very strong time period, and we’re thrilled with ‘Ugly Betty’s’ performance.”



The ABC freshman has already established itself a solid second to CBS’ time period veteran “Survivor” in the 8 o’clock hour among Total Viewers (15.3 million) and Adults 18-49 (4.7/13), while holding the No. 1 position on average with Adults 18-34 (4.0/12). On average, “Ugly Betty” has improved the time period for ABC by 96% in Total Viewers (15.3 million vs.. 7.8 million) and by 92% in Adults 18-49 (4.8/14 vs.. 2.5/7) over the same nights last year. Additionally “Ugly Betty” qualifies as the No. 1 new series this season in Total Viewers (1.13 million) and Adults 18-49 (3.2/9) among Hispanic viewers watching English language TV.



About “Ugly Betty”:



In the superficial world of high fashion, image is everything. Styles come and go, and the only constants are the superthin beauties who wear them. How can an ordinary girl – a slightly plump plain-Jane from Queens – possibly fit in?



If you took a moment to get to know Betty Suarez, you’d see how sweet, intelligent and hard-working she is. But few people do, because in the world of high fashion Betty is the oversized peg in the petite round hole. When publishing mogul Bradford Meade hands the reigns of Mode, the bible of the fashion industry, over to this son, Daniel, he specifically hires Betty as his son’s new assistant – mostly because she’s the only woman in NYC Daniel won’t sleep with. Though this “player” is reluctant to accept her at first, Betty’s indomitable spirit and bright ideas will eventually win him over. Neither of them really knows the ins and outs of the fashion world, but the two are a formidable team against those who will do anything to see them fall.



And they really are swimming with the sharks. Diva fashionista Wilhelmina Slater is incensed that Bradford Meade passed her over and promoted Daniel to the coveted job after the mysterious death (or was it?) of Mode’s legendary editress, Fey Sommers. Wilhelmina, along with toadying assistant Marc and scheming receptionist Amanda, are out to sabotage Daniel and Betty any chance they get. Betty finds a friend in warm-hearted Christina, who works as the magazine’s in-house seamstress and seems to know everything about everybody who works there.



Away from work, Betty’s home life is far from glamorous. Dad Ignacio and her sister, Hilda, worry that she’s just setting herself up for a fall, while nephew Justin encourages his aunt to dream big (even if he’s aghast at her fashion sense). Nerdy boyfriend Walter, who unceremoniously dumped Betty, keeps turning up despite her attempts to get him to stay away.



“Ugly Betty” stars America Ferrera as Betty Suarez, Eric Mabius as Daniel Meade, Alan Dale as Bradford Meade, Tony Plana as Ignacio, Ana Ortiz as Hilda, Ashley Jensen as Christina, Becki Newton as Amanda, Mark Indelicato as Justin and Vanessa Williams as Wilhelmina Slater. Recurring guest stars are Michael Urie as Marc and Kevin Sussman as Walter.



Based on “Yo Soy Betty La Fea,” the groundbreaking Colombian telenovela that became an international phenomenon, “Ugly Betty” is from Touchstone Television. Academy Award nominee and Emmy Award winner Salma Hayek is executive producer, along with Silvio Horta (“Urban Legends”), Ben Silverman, (“The Office”), Jose Tamez (“The Maldonado Miracle”), James Parriott (“Grey’s Anatomy”) and James Hayman (“Joan of Arcadia”).



“Ugly Betty” is broadcast in 720 Progressive (720P), ABC’s selected HDTV format, with 5.1-channel surround sound and Spanish audio via SAP.

[Brent88]

UGLY BETTY PICKED UP FOR A FULL SEASON

The most-watched new TV show of the 2006-07 season, Ugly Betty was picked up for a full season order, Stephen McPherson, president of ABC Entertainment announced today. The show, based on the worlds most popular telenovela, Yo Soy Betty La Fea, is executive-produced by Salma Hayek and stars America Ferrera as Betty Suarez.

In just two weeks Ugly Betty has given us an impressive foothold leading into the Greys Anatomy hour on Thursday night, said McPherson. The show has proven to be competitive in a very strong time period, and were thrilled with Ugly Bettys performance.

The ABC freshman has already established itself a solid second to CBS time period veteran Survivor in the 8 oclock hour among Total Viewers (15.3 million) and Adults 18-49 (4.7/13), while holding the No. 1 position on average with Adults 18-34 (4.0/12). On average, Ugly Betty has improved the time period for ABC by 96% in Total Viewers (15.3 million vs.. 7.8 million) and by 92% in Adults 18-49 (4.8/14 vs.. 2.5/7) over the same nights last year. Additionally Ugly Betty qualifies as the No. 1 new series this season in Total Viewers (1.13 million) and Adults 18-49 (3.2/9) among Hispanic viewers watching English language TV.

About Ugly Betty:

In the superficial world of high fashion, image is everything. Styles come and go, and the only constants are the superthin beauties who wear them. How can an ordinary girl a slightly plump plain-Jane from Queens possibly fit in?

If you took a moment to get to know Betty Suarez, youd see how sweet, intelligent and hard-working she is. But few people do, because in the world of high fashion Betty is the oversized peg in the petite round hole. When publishing mogul Bradford Meade hands the reigns of Mode, the bible of the fashion industry, over to this son, Daniel, he specifically hires Betty as his sons new assistant mostly because shes the only woman in NYC Daniel wont sleep with. Though this player is reluctant to accept her at first, Bettys indomitable spirit and bright ideas will eventually win him over. Neither of them really knows the ins and outs of the fashion world, but the two are a formidable team against those who will do anything to see them fall.

And they really are swimming with the sharks. Diva fashionista Wilhelmina Slater is incensed that Bradford Meade passed her over and promoted Daniel to the coveted job after the mysterious death (or was it?) of Modes legendary editress, Fey Sommers. Wilhelmina, along with toadying assistant Marc and scheming receptionist Amanda, are out to sabotage Daniel and Betty any chance they get. Betty finds a friend in warm-hearted Christina, who works as the magazines in-house seamstress and seems to know everything about everybody who works there.

Away from work, Bettys home life is far from glamorous. Dad Ignacio and her sister, Hilda, worry that shes just setting herself up for a fall, while nephew Justin encourages his aunt to dream big (even if hes aghast at her fashion sense). Nerdy boyfriend Walter, who unceremoniously dumped Betty, keeps turning up despite her attempts to get him to stay away.

Ugly Betty stars America Ferrera as Betty Suarez, Eric Mabius as Daniel Meade, Alan Dale as Bradford Meade, Tony Plana as Ignacio, Ana Ortiz as Hilda, Ashley Jensen as Christina, Becki Newton as Amanda, Mark Indelicato as Justin and Vanessa Williams as Wilhelmina Slater. Recurring guest stars are Michael Urie as Marc and Kevin Sussman as Walter.

Based on Yo Soy Betty La Fea, the groundbreaking Colombian telenovela that became an international phenomenon, Ugly Betty is from Touchstone Television. Academy Award nominee and Emmy Award winner Salma Hayek is executive producer, along with Silvio Horta (Urban Legends), Ben Silverman, (The Office), Jose Tamez (The Maldonado Miracle), James Parriott (Greys Anatomy) and James Hayman (Joan of Arcadia).

Ugly Betty is broadcast in 720 Progressive (720P), ABCs selected HDTV format, with 5.1-channel surround sound and Spanish audio via SAP.

[Brent88]

ABC has picked up October Road for Six episodes!

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117951968.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

[Brent88]

Desperate Housewives levelled off last night with a 12.8/19(12.9/19 last week, 13.2/20 two weeks ago). Brothers and Sisters however continued it's drop with an 8.3/13. That's a retention of 65%. That's better than The Nine and Six Degrees are doing, but not that great either. Resembles more of what Boston Legal did after DH than Grey's Anatomy.

[Scoobiedoo30]

I know I am looking forward to watching October Road

[Brent88]

After a summer of recasting and reshooting, ABC's freshman family melodrama "Brothers & Sisters" has finally found a happy ending.

ABC announced late Monday (Oct. 16) afternoon that the network was giving a full-season order to "Brothers & Sisters," from Ken Olin, Jon Robin Baitz and Greg Berlanti.

"'Brothers & Sisters' is a great addition to our Sunday night lineup and has given us a strong complement to 'Desperate Housewives,'" says ABC Entertainment President Stephen McPherson.

Thanks in large part to that "Desperate Housewives" lead-in, "Brothers & Sisters" has averaged roughly 14 million viewers and ranks as the second-highest rated new series of the season among adults 18-49.

"Brothers & Sisters" features an all-star ensemble led by Calista Flockhart, Sally Field, Patricia Wettig, Ron Rifkin, Balthazar Getty and Rachel Griffiths and tells the story of the Walker family and their intertwining romantic and professional lives.

Before the show made it to the air there were causes for concern. The initial pilot had to be largely scrapped after Sally Field replaced Betty Buckley and the producers decided to rebalance several creative aspects of the pilot. There were additional worries early in shooting when Marti Noxon ("Buffy the Vampire Slayer") exited the show and Berlanti ("Everwood") was called into service.

For now, at least, none of that appears to matter and viewers can look forward to 22 episodes of family hijinx

[Pavan]

Final ratings for October 16 show What About Brian's rating a tad down from what was reported earlier, because of the football game in Chicago and Phoenix. Brian still beat Studio 60 in A18-49 and almost won in viewers and HH. Brian was also up from its premiere in everything.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=185574

[Pavan]

Dancing with the Stars Finale Part 1 will air Tuesday, November 14 from 8-9pm, followed by the Barbara Walters Special - “30 Mistakes in 30 Years" from 9-11pm.

I think the Stars finale part two is a day later from 8-10pm, followed by the premiere of Day Break. Not confirmed yet.

[Pavan]

OK, Day Break's series premiere is Nov. 15 from 9-11pm. So, I guess the second part of the Stars Finale is 8-9pm or on that Sunday...not sure.

[Scoobiedoo30]

Day reak looks like a Great Series

[Brent88]

Well DWTS was a big waste tonight. I hope some people don't come back to watch next week. That was stupid and ridiculous. The finale better be an hour on that Wednesday also. :rolleyes:

[Scoobiedoo30]

I Have not watch DWTH at all this season

[Pavan]

Well DWTS was a big waste tonight. I hope some people don't come back to watch next week. That was stupid and ridiculous. The finale better be an hour on that Wednesday also. :rolleyes:

I think that was the right thing to do. I didn't want to see a vote for a kicked-off celeb coming back.

[Brent88]

Criminal Minds beat Lost again... and this time, CBS beat it in viewers as well.

At 9 p.m., CBS' "Criminal Minds," 10.6/16, narrowly beat ABC's "Lost," 9.9/15, for the lead (the margin in viewers was only about 30,000 people).

The Nine was steady at a 5.8/9(5.7/9) last week, beating Dateline(though once Medium starts in 4 weeks it will defintely be 3rd place).

[Pavan]

Final numbers will have Lost winning in viewers I bet.

[Pavan]

ABC is giving Boston Legal a little push during sweeps. A special episode will air after Desperate Housewives on the last Sunday in sweeps (Nov. 26):

“Boston Legal” is scheduled to air on Sunday, November 26, 2006 from 10:01:05 to 11:00 PM PT/ET (NOTE: Brothers & Sisters is pre-empted on this night ONLY).

This is Part One of a special Two-Part episode. Part Two will air on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 in its regular 10:00 PM ET/PT time period.