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05-17-2001, 05:20 PM
Do u believe in it? I don't if u have done soemthing really bad they should just put u in LIfe in Jail and let u die their. I don't believe in killing people. u?
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Max Whittaker
05-17-2001, 06:45 PM
Ah, so now we'er entering politics? Well I think politics are evil but I'll just say to kill someone is wrong. If someone did a crime they should be forced to live with it behind bars for life. He will be punished all in good time.
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Teddys_Angel_Jinny
05-17-2001, 07:18 PM
I think in some cases it's wrong but in the case of Timothy McVeigh I think it's the right thing to do. I'm from Oklahoma and we were P.O.'ed when they pushed it back. I think they oughta lock him in a building and blow it up! Actually, the bomb was tested up near where my aunt lives! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/eek.gif But don't get mad b/c I have a different opinion than you, ko?
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LaverneShirley
05-17-2001, 07:19 PM
I think if someone kills somebody, they should be put in jail for life so they can live with the guilt of what they've done.
nancysbiggestfan
05-17-2001, 08:37 PM
No, i don't believe in the death sentence. If someone does something really bad they should be sentenced LIFE IN JAIL. Because one to kill someone [even as punishment is wrong] two, they can live with that aweful(SP) guilt all of their life. And at the end of time they will pay for it.
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The T
05-17-2001, 10:23 PM
yes, and no....I think it is good in some ways...like you said, the timothy McVeigh case is a definate should-be-put-to-death-case...I may be the minority, but people that kill numerous people, and are not sorry, she be killed on the spot-forgive my bluntness...I'll probably be critisized, but that's just my opinion.
lesliem14
05-17-2001, 11:46 PM
I don't shy away from politics, or giving my views. Be prepared.
I used to be very anti-death penalty. Preface that with used to be. If a person has no regard for human life then why should we have regard for their human life? Should people be put to death if there is evidence that could prove them innocent? No. The fact is that our prisons are overcrowded and it costs a lot less tax dollars for a person to die then for them to live anywhere from 20-70 years in prison on public tax dollars. I would much rather see that money being spent on schools helping kids to succeed and not turning into murderers or rapists. If anyone wants to argue politics, I'm always ready!
coily2
05-18-2001, 09:01 AM
When I was younger, I was very anti-captial punishment. But the older I get, the more I support it. I think it should be stepped up a notch. Executions are infrequent (except in Texas), and they take years and years to carry out. If you were to make a mandatroy death sentence for capital murder, mass murderers, and serial killers, and actually carry the sentance out in a timely fashion, I feel that it would go a long way towards deterring future crimes. I also feel that execution is a suitable form of punishment for other autrocities, such as rape.
Bootsy Whoosh
05-18-2001, 03:21 PM
Actually, it costs more money to put someone to death than to keep them in prison for life. I regret that I do not have any figures in front of me to support my claim, but I do study sociology and criminology, and this is what I have ALWAYS been taught, in every class. Perhaps I will try to find some data to back this up...
I do believe that if death sentences are ever going to act as an effective deterrent (which as they are now, they are not) they need to be administered much more quickly. A popular theory of deterrence in criminology is that in order for punishment to deter, the punishment must be swift and certain.
Personally, I walk on the fence. I used to be very much pro-death penalty, but in light of the large numbers of prisoners on death row that they have had to release once DNA testing proved their innocence, I am not so sure anymore. I do think that in some cases it is justly deserved, most especially for criminals who confess to their crimes, that killed many people, and show no remorse.
Another thing that is interesting, I think, is that the U.S. is constantly complaining about human rights violations and the like; however, in the eyes of just about every other industrialized nation on the globe, the U.S. is seen as barbaric for its insistence on use of the death penalty. This is why the U.S. is never allowed to join the U.N's committee on Human Rights Violations (or whatever it's called, I forget its exact name).
The question that I have is this: we know for a fact that there are people on death row who should not be there. Their innocence was proven by DNA testing. There is a very good chance that some innocent people were already put to death. Is this an acceptable loss in order to maintain justice in society? Personally, I think it is NOT an acceptable loss....I think if even one person is wrongly put to death the whole system needs to be put on hold and re-evaluated. What do you all think?
triple19
05-18-2001, 03:39 PM
Yes, I do agree with the death penalty. There are some crimes like serial killing and mass murder that are just too heinous to justify someone being locked up for life. The people who commit these crimes like Tim McViegh or Ted Bundy are socio-paths and have no regard for the life of thier victims. They will never be sorry for what they did, so life in prison without parole doesn't them any good. It keeps them off the streets certainly, but its just a waste of money and time.
I, too, was ticked off that the FBI screwed up and Tim McViegh's execution was postponed by a month. The sooner he's gone, the sooner the families of the victims will have some sort of closure after all the pain they've been through.
coily2
05-18-2001, 03:41 PM
Bootsy,
You are correct. Due to the lengthy appeals process, the cost of execution is greater than incarceration for life. A reform in capital punishment would need to address this cost as well as the time period.
Even without the appeals, the wait is ridiculous. Look at McVeigh. He waved all rights to appeals and wanted the process to move as swiftly as possible. And he was sentenced, what, 5 years ago now? Crazy.
lesliem14
05-18-2001, 06:39 PM
I'm going to apoligize for that one statement from last night. I was making random assumptions (yes, I know what assume means!) at a bad time of night. I've been out of school for a couple weeks and a little brain-dead as I recover from the last few weeks of school.
I believe the Justice system of the US needs to be re-evaluated. With all the police corruption and FBI mishandlings we are in need of a major over-haul. The riots in Cincinnati a month ago were over police mis-handling of a situation(s). It's sad the death-penalty process takes forever. KY a few years ago finally put to death it's first person since the penalty was reinstated. If Bush would attempt to over-haul the justice system then I just might vote for a Republican (just might).
Jo_Polniaczek
05-18-2001, 06:59 PM
I believe in the death penalty. There are just some things you can't make up for doing!You don't just go and kill someone for absolutly no reason. (Unless you are a physcopath, or something) I have no experience in this matter, but I think the person probably has to think it out. In doing so you are faced with the possibility of the death penalty, or life in prison. There's a very small chance that you won't get caught. If the person knows this (Everybody has to know the charges to this...unless, you're majorly stupid or something) then maybe they should be put to death. Killing another human being is a crime, a serious one. Every crime has a punishment. I don't care what the reason the person has for killing someone it's serious! Besides, I wouldn't want to live with the guilt and knowing that you're probably going to be infamous. Now, if this is one persons way of getting famous..Well, I don't know.
-No person should take ones life away, if they do, they should have theirs taken away!
Well, that's just my opinion.
ILuvJo&Blair
05-18-2001, 08:31 PM
I agree with Jo_Polniaczek,and i do think that if you take one's life away you should have your's taken away to, but then again who are we to determine when and when not to take someone's life away? We meaning the government are not God so therfor we shouldn't have the right to take one's life just because they took another's away. But then your supposed to treat others the way you wanted to be treated so in some of the major cases they should get what they deserve which might mean death.
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Bootsy Whoosh
05-19-2001, 02:18 PM
Speaking of waiving appeals...I remember hearing about a case of some guy on death row, and he waived his appeals...and then his attorneys were trying to say that he wasn't mentally competant because no sane person would waive their appeals. So they were trying to say that he shouldn't be put do death because you can't execute someone who is mentally incompetent. So even when someone wants to waive their appeals, the government can still find a way to lengthen the process. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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BlairW_1
05-19-2001, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Teddys_Angel_Jinny:
I think in some cases it's wrong but in the case of Timothy McVeigh I think it's the right thing to do. I'm from Oklahoma and we were P.O.'ed when they pushed it back. I think they oughta lock him in a building and blow it up! Actually, the bomb was tested up near where my aunt lives! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/eek.gif But don't get mad b/c I have a different opinion than you, ko?
Ok, I live where Kenzie does, and I agree with her about 49%... Most of the time I lean towards life in prison. But you know, I sort of think that his death will make him happier, so I'm for him being locked up. I want him to face the horror of living in prison. At our elementary school, we have a block from the building, and it sort of creeps me out to look at it, knowing that someone was probably standing right beside the block when they died...
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Bootsy Whoosh
05-19-2001, 08:21 PM
Living in prison isn't really horror anymore....but I suppose that's a topic for a whole 'nother thread!!! http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif
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